Monitoring Leaders From The Streets

Protesting in front of Singha Durbar
In front of Singha Durbar: Nepali people are constantly pressurizing to their leaders who have assumed the responsibility of fulfilling their aspirations. Pics by Wagle

The best thing about democracy is that it lets people have their say. Another hallmark is that the folks at the government can’t stop people from raising their voices. Here is an example. Protests right in front of the gate of Singha Durbar yesterday and today signal the arrival of free days. In the days of autocracy of king Gyanendra, the government declared many places of Kathmandu restricted for public demonstrations. No one could have even imagined of protesting freely at the west gate of Singha Durbar like hundreds of protesters did yesterday and this afternoon. This right to protest really makes difference.

Protesting in front of Singha Durbar

These are the people who fought for freedom and now they are warning their own government to work for people. They were carrying placards that said not to promote corrupt politicians, not to forget the agendas of the Jana Andolaan (Peoples’ Movement). And of course, they were saying that all they want is to see Nepal without monarchy. Here are a few images from today’s gathering in front of Singha Durbar.

Protesting in front of Singha Durbar

Protesting in front of Singha Durbar

Protesting in front of Singha Durbar


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  1. m Avatar
    m

    Excellent work, keep up the pressure until the job is done.

  2. Maiost Avatar
    Maiost

    Khardar SPA leaders,

    You should think about the aspiration of people’s movement. It was not for you get chairs only.

  3. suman Avatar
    suman

    राजा फेरी पनि आफु माथि पर्नी काम गर्दै छ । तर गिरिजा ले दबार मा आफ्नो सपथ लियकोले शाहीद हरु को रगतमा फेरी पनि खेल बाद होला जस्तो लागि रहेको छ।
    खबर दार नेताहो खबर दार्, फेरी नेपाली जनतालाई धोकनहोश। +हामिलाई राजा को आबसयक् पनि छैन। आबसयक् छ् उस् लाई हाम्रा गरिब नेपालि जन्तको रगतको। सायद अब जन्तले बुझेरमात्र देलान्।
    अनि हो हाम्रो श्रीमान् गम्भिर् पनि बदल्नु पर्छ्। ५ को नाम् निसाना ले यो २१ सताबदिमा स्थान् पायो भनि फेरि यो कहिले पनि जादैन। अनि नेपाल भने को उप्तेक्क लाई बुझने हरुलाई नेपाल् को नक्सा हेर्न् अनुरोध गर्दछु।

  4. Rahul Shrestha Avatar
    Rahul Shrestha

    I only wish Nepales people will be able to exert equal power on Leader ( with 14 years of corruption legacy) as they did with king.
    Well this wil be the only proof to the silent majority that the ones on the street were not there for their own hidden motives as lot of the one like me beleive.

  5. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Now that the formation of the CA motion has been passed I would like to see the H of R pass a motion on restructuring the RNA-first sever it ties with the Palace by passing the requisite laws (remove all ambuigity), second retire the old generals known to be pro-king, third review and revise it’s recruitment policy so that Nepali’s of every ethnicity, caste or class provided that they have the requisite physical, mental and educational qualifications get equal oppurtunity for employment and promotion, fourth turn it into a real professional army with proper discipline, awareness and respect for human rights and skilled in the art of war, fifth make all their dealings financially transparent, sixth make it compulsory for all army men to do a yearly course on the importance of their allegiance to the constitution of the country and the people of Nepal.

    Let the new defence minister’s first priority be the above mentioned tasks.

  6. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Simultaneously call the Maoist’s bluff and ask the UN to come in to monitor the ceasefire (after declaring a government one). Start peace talks with them under the auspices of the UN with the aim of reaching an amicable solution on the modalities of the elections to the CA. If the Maoists are to participate in the elections to the CA it must be on the condition that they lay down their arms under UN supervision-this is non-negotiable. I believe as an alternative to giving up their arms the Maoists are saying that they will return the PLA back to their barracks-this is not acceptable!

  7. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Pass the necessary laws to ensure that the Judiciary is provided with enough powers to defend the constitution. However the Judiciary itself needs a lot of reform-review and revise if necessary the process of appointing judges at all levels right upto the Supreme Court. Establish laws and procedures for ensuring that Judges do not abuse their authority (happens all to frequently right now)with very harsh punitive action for those indicted of being guilty of such abuses. In short make the judiciary as impartial as possible and encourage them to remain so but also empower them to protect the spirit of the constitution (new one).

  8. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Give the CIAA real teeth and real autonomy so that it does not become someone’s personal watchdog but the people’s watchdog-immune from pressure from vested interests. The only vested interest it should have is to ensure that all public servants and politicians remain corruption free and act according to the letter and spirit of the law because if they have indulged in any hanky panky the CIAA would get them. Right now the CIAA is pathetic.

  9. Kumar Brajbhushan Avatar
    Kumar Brajbhushan

    Any news/speculations about the oath taking ceremony of PM Koirala by King Gyanendra? I do not know how come it was done by a King who is hated so much, against whom SPA and people foughted. He could have taken oath before public or by chief justice himself. It is taking the whole movement in a wrong direction. Going for republic will be lot more difficult.

  10. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Affirmative action benefiting all marginalised indigenous communities-the only way to bring these communities into the mainstream. Otherwise you are going to have a bigger problem than the Maoists and the King put together. Remember the MNO? A clever variant with a charismatic leader and it can catch fire and spread like one across a dry forest.

  11. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Enforce legislation for a free press(print, media, airwaves, internet-every medium).

    Reform to ensure that politicians find it difficult to indulge in their favorite hobby-accepting bribes for favour. Al MPs and holders of office must declare all personal and family assets before contesting elections and must declare them once every three years. To be scrutinized by the (reformed) CIAA.

  12. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Overhaul the administrative machinery of the country i.e. the bureaucracy. Affirmative action for the marginalised communities for entry into the civil service. A proper Public Services Commission. Minimize the legislatures sphere of influence on the executive-meaning civil servants should be made more autonomus from the influences of the politicians. No easy transfer based on whim and fancy of politicos. Pass appropriate laws. CIAA to take care of errant public servants.

  13. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Ensure that all public servants including judiciary, army, administrative, diplomatic etc are provided a good salary and other benefits so that they don’t have an excuse to accept bribes and are financially well looked after. Review and revise this salary every two years. Remember the famous ‘if you pay peanuts you get monkeys’?

  14. Prakash Avatar
    Prakash

    Kirat,

    Very well said. It is hight time people stopped talking solely about the king- there are other very important things that need to be looked at- and I could not explain them any better than Kirat.

    Kirat, I admire you man. You seem to possess one of the only voices of sanity on the various threads on this blog. The rest seem to me to be more pre-occupied with India, the king, the king and the king.

  15. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Thanks Prakash-And I haven’t even touched on my two favourite topics yet-the economy and foreign relations. Next time.

  16. hari sharma Avatar

    “Ensure that all public servants including judiciary, army, administrative, diplomatic etc are provided a good salary and other benefits so that they don’t have an excuse to accept bribes and are financially well looked after.”

    Kirat,
    Many things are easier said than done. Just for example, take your above-mentioned point. Dude, if we were rich enough to pay a decent salary to the public servants, we would not still dwell at around 200 dollars of per capita income.
    Important thing is not to raise salary alone but also to increase production and boost growth in the economy. This increases the tax base and makes us able to pay a higher salary. Printing currency is not the way to tackle these things. It will only stimulate inflation later on. So, one of the important thing is to boost the private confidence and subsequently a rapid privatization.
    There are a lot of things to be done before we can provide a decent salary. We should increase salary only to the extent we can back up with our resources. Money printing should only flow with the increased production.

  17. anuj Avatar
    anuj

    kirat
    what you write is right and is also very good to read and hope that all of it comes good

    but i am sure you doa lso realise that sound governenece needs even better revenue mobilisation which in turn needs a happening economy!

    yet this aspect of the picture i find that neither you nor the leaders of the spa have touched upon!

    is it too hot to handle or is it because thats one aspect of the system where words are not enough and the results are easy to gauge!

    the spa seems to busy at the moment settling personal vandetta agains the king while the maoists are busy milking the business community dry.

    25 days of shutdown followed aama ko mukh herene din and now the may day….. holidays galore!

    a country which shuld be working 400 days a year has only 225-250 productive days in a year.wake up dear leaders.

    according to me till the economic empowerment of the people takes place there can be no lasting peace in this country and for that we need to work.

    no war has ever been won on an empty stomach and so will be the case with one!

    so are we going to act or the charity we get in the form of aid going to suffice!!!!

  18. anuj Avatar
    anuj

    kirat

    to put things in perspective i am sure that you do realise that it boils down to a battle between the HAVES and the HAVENOTS!

    its time somebody explained to the maoists and the spa alike that the way to bridge the gap is not by stopping the progress of the “HAVES” but by providing means and oppurtunities to the “HAVENOTS” to help them secure a better future.

    its time to stop viewing allthe “HAVES” as thieves and cheats instead i think its time to give them their due for making it inspite of the system( not because of it!!)

  19. 1whocandie4u Avatar
    1whocandie4u

    म के भ्न्छु भने सरकार का दिइन अब गए जनता अब राजा चाहदैनन्न यो एकदम्मेइ स्वागत योग्य कदम हो । यसपाली चाँही अब जनताले नेता को पनिइ खवार्दरी गर्नै पर्छ । नत्र भने यिनी हरु पद र पैसा म चुर्लुमेमबिए दुबेर फेरी प्रजातन्त्र दरबार लाई नै सुम्पिना बेर लगौदैनन । यिनी हरु त्यती धेरै बिश्वास गर्न लयक नेता हरु चाँही हैनन । नेपाली जनता जिन्दबद अनि गणतन्त्र जिन्दबद/
    I am very happy to type in nepali somewhere and paste here. sorry for minor mistakes.

  20. 1whocandie4u Avatar
    1whocandie4u

    My above comments reminded me question paper of Nepali in my school days where i had to write sentence with correct grammers and punctuation. Feeling nostalgic………….Ganatantra Jindabad

  21. anuj Avatar
    anuj

    dear kirat,

    after reading all your comments and ideas all i have to say is:

    KIRAT FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!

    (by the way you haven’t yet explained how we are going to get there on empty stomachs!!!!)

    but KIRAT FOR PRESIDENT ALL THE SAME!!!!!

  22. Prakash Avatar
    Prakash

    I have a suggestion..

    I don’t know if Kirat is living in Nepal or not, but I seriously think he should be in the Nepalese cabinet, since it hasn’t been chosen yet.

    I am dead serious about this. I think he will do a lot of good. At least he has a lot of sensible ideas and does not keep crowing like the others about irrelevant and meaningless stuff. He looks at the future, while learning from the past. Most others keep dwelling in the past, while refusing to acknowledge the problems that we are likely to face in the future.

  23. anuj Avatar
    anuj

    dear prakash,

    i am sorry he has already filed for president.

    such lowly posts as cabinet minister will not do justice to his intellect.

    its quite another thing that he still has not told us how he intends setting things right on an empty stomach!

    anyway “” KIRAT FOR PRESIDENT IT IS!!!!”

  24. rajesh Avatar
    rajesh

    I agree. He seems to be most sensible here

  25. anuj Avatar
    anuj

    dear kirat,

    jokes apart and getting down to more serious stuff.

    you know there is a community in nepal which makes up only about 0.5% of the populace and yet makes a contribution of around 85% of the total revenue of nepal.

    it really makes me wonder as if that is true which it is then what is the rest of the population contributing!!!!!

    the more important question is that are they actually controlling 85% of the trade in this country? the answer is a big big NO!!!!!

    we call them names , we dislike them but like it or not they are the ones keeping the country afloat.

    i think that it is time to acknowledge their effort and give them their due also in the true spirit of the peoples movement.

  26. Bhudai Pundit Avatar
    Bhudai Pundit

    Kirat:
    I think the people have spoken!

  27. hari sharma Avatar

    I can’t believe people can be swayed by cheap agendas. It is always easy to say do this and do that, but when it comes to action, it is way up the hill.

    A couple of reminders from what Kirat said:
    “In short make the judiciary as impartial as possible and encourage them to remain so but also empower them to protect the spirit of the constitution (new one).”
    But how do you do this? How can you make everyone confirm so as to create an utopia? Dude, wake from dreams. Things are much different on the ground.

    “Give the CIAA real teeth and real autonomy so that it does not become someone’s personal watchdog but the people’s watchdog-immune from pressure from vested interests”
    Dude, again the same problem. We can’t just change the mind of the people in a day or month or a year. We need to bring a cultural change rather than just increase punishments and agencies to curb it. Moreover, such agencies have always failed in Nepal despite having a sufficient power. Did not CIAA have the power to search homes in the middle of the nights? What did we gain at the end? There has to be a cultural change.

    “Affirmative action for the marginalised communities for entry into the civil service.”
    I don’t believe in affirmative actions either. We should base our decisions purely on the basis of merit. If we go for affirmative actions, we are inviting another class war. Imagine yourself not getting a position despite being qualified just because you were born in a brahmin family. Dude, we should open up the opportunities, expand businesses and boost employment. We should not create a mess with the limited civil servant jobs but rather encourage everyone.

    So, the end note, the agendas are cheap notes to sway nepalese people as they have been in the past. And, the people here, whom I assumed to be more educated and thus sensible, are also after the same ball. Things in real are a lot more different in the ground. We need to bring changes through equality in opportunities, not through discrimination against the so-called high castes. We need to bring about a cultural change so as to avoid corruption. Paying a decent wage is always a dream of government only hindered by the fact that we are poor and we can’t afford it, hence rendering the idea useless for now.

  28. Bhudai Pundit Avatar
    Bhudai Pundit

    Hari Sharma:
    You ask Kirat to wake up from dreams and talk about realistic senarios. However, I find you proposal of changing culture to be vague and ambigious. What excatly are you talking about and how do we go about do this?

    “Imagine yourself not getting a position despite being qualified just because you were born in a brahmin family.”

    The Problem is that people HAVE been getting jobs etc. because they were born in a Brahmin family. Army officers have been promoted because of their surnames etc. as a result we see Bhun-Chetri-Takuri hegemony in Nepal… I am a Bhun as you may have infered from my name but I realize that some affermative action might be necessary to encourage and integrate people from other/all cultural backgrounds in Nepali society.

  29. hari sharma Avatar

    Dude,
    When I said “wake up from dreams,” I was implying the cheap agendas. It is not possible for us to have all those changes instantaneously. So, I think its going to take us a long time before we can change the mentality of people. This is about a cultural change which takes a long time and is always affected by the environment we live in.

    We should work to elect the best irrespective of his background and this should be our goal. This will not only bring equity in opportunities but also efficiency in production. Why do we always have to fight over the limited government jobs? Why can’t we seek alternatives? Moreover, we cannot force affirmative action on private businesses. So, how is this going to help the whole Nepal? So, rather than dwelling on such things, we should focus on broader agenda-create more employment opportunities through encouragement of private business.

  30. manan Avatar
    manan

    By the way, has Tulsi Giri already been caught and hanged from the nearest big tree?

  31. Bhudai Pundit Avatar
    Bhudai Pundit

    I don’t mean affermative action in private businesses. What I am saying is more opportunities in civil service, army etc. Perhaps a higher quota in the universities etc.

    Private business can do what they want.. because a private business will hire the best irrespective of caste or creed.

  32. dalit p Avatar
    dalit p

    [icd] affirmative action, just change the old constitution which was based on liberal english law and fascist/rascist hindutva morality, make nepal a secular state, why should state need a religion, individual can have a religion and they can do whatever the [icd] they want in their own privacy. And there should be more than one nepali language, and every language should be treated as equal.

    Affirmative action doesn’t gurantee a racial euality. the ideal way will be to microwave the brain of all bahuns and chettri and all those khas nepali hill hindus because you just can’t shed centuries of rascism and inequality by just 18 days of public demonstration or for that matter 13 years of armed revolution.

  33. FinalSolution Avatar
    FinalSolution

    Guys Watch Out………..

    What about checking the corruption, nepotism, favoritism and other such .. isms of our Past Leaders, Current Leaders and Future Leaders.

    Just a thought !! What about the MALLIK REPORT ?? what about the fate of a Bhojpuri woman who is languishing behind cell for slaughtering cow and eating it up?

    All the PM’s kith
    Ghatna Ra Bicbar, 13 September
    From Issue #10 (20 September 00 – 26 September 00) |

    Among the many accusations against the prime minister, one is of nepotism. Never before, other than in the Rana regime, have so many members of one family exercised control over so many important posts. Under Girija Prasad Koirala’s leadership, members of his clan have moved into many prominent positions, and are creating their personal fiefdoms. Moreover, friends, assistants and personal domestic help, have been given important areas to run as they see fit.

    The children of B.P. Koirala, too, are in important positions, but the general public holds no grudge against them. But against the present prime minister’s brood, the public nurses no such feelings, and it is only a matter of time before they vent their anger and frustration.

    A partial list of the members of the PM’s clan is given below along with the positions they hold:

    Relation Name Position Held
    Cousin Sushil Koirala MP, General Secretary NC,Central Working Committee (CWC)
    Sister-in-law Nona Koirala CWC, Chief of Women’s Wing
    Niece Sailaja Acharya CWC
    Sister-in-law Lila Koirala CWC
    Niece’s husband Chakra Prasad Bastola Minister
    Niece’s husband Oil Bahadur Gharti MP (Upper House), CWC
    Brother-in-law Amod Uphadhyaya Minister
    Daughter Sujata Jost (Koirala) agent (for aeroplane
    Nephew Dr Shekhar Koirala Vice-Chancellor, BP Koirala Institute for Health Sciences, Dharan
    Cousin Dr Gopal Koirala MP
    Cousin Ashok Koirala President, Morang NC
    Nephew Shambhu Koirala Chief, Morang Degree College
    Nona’s brother Pramod Upadhaya GM, National Trading Corporation
    Nephew-in-law Laxman Basnet President, Trade Union Congress
    Nephew (some way) Bimal Koirala Finance Secretary
    Family Member Mahesh Acharya Minister

    Jai Ganatantra Nepal and Nepalese

  34. hari sharma Avatar

    Well, then how far are we increasing the share of those lower caste people anyway? Affirmative action won’t help. It will only increase the animosity between the people. We have a population of more than 25 million, isn’t it? How many civil service jobs do we have? Use the simple mathematics…see the progress….

  35. Bhudai Pundit Avatar
    Bhudai Pundit

    Hari:
    But affermative action was used and is still being used in places like South Africa to some extent in the US etc.
    Frankly I don’t how else we can go about balancing ethnic representation in Nepal. Currently, I think you will agree with me, the ethnic representation is highly disproportionate. You propose just initiating gorwth but how can we ensure that there will be equitable growth for all people? Who is not to say that a certain section of the population will reap the benefits of the inseased economic prosperity?

  36. hari sharma Avatar

    In USA there have been a lot of debates on the goodness of affirmative action. There have been a lot of controversies.It has been used somewhere does not mean we should also use it.

    What I feel is that we should not destine ourselves for equitable growth. We should work for for equality in opportunities, not absolute income equality.
    Reason?
    It is obvious. If those who are hardworking are not going to have more share, they will not work hard. There will be no incentive to produce more or give extra effort to save some resources. So, we might send ourselves to a negative stimulation.

    Equitable distribution will lead us towards adoption of socialist philosophies which have failed a long time back(and may be our mao brothers were right then?). So, we should have transparency so as to ensure that the best gets the job in civil services. This is required even if we just want to have the best men work for the government. As I already said, its also about efficiency.
    And as for your question about “who is to say who gains what”, let the market do it. Those who work hard will get more while those who work less deserve to get less. Why to intervene? This is a complex phenomenon. I guess you have read “What is seen and what is unseen.”

  37. Nepalko Chhora Avatar
    Nepalko Chhora

    CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN WHY GIRIJA STILL WENT TO TAKE OATH OF OFFICE FROM GYANENDRA? IF THE CROWN (SRIPECH) IS REMOVED FROM THE PARLIAMENT, IF SPA’S FINAL DESTINATION IS CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY, FOR 19 DAYS HE CAME TO THE STREET TO FIGHT AGAINST THIS DICTATOR REGIME AND YET HE TAKES OATH FROM GYANENDRA. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT PUNISHING THE DEFAULTERS, WELL HERE IS THE FIRST PERSON GIRIJA PRASAD KOIRALA.

    IF YOU THINK YOU GOT RID OF DICTATORSHIP REGIME, I AM SORRY FELLOW CITIZENS. WE FOUGHT FOR 19 DAYS AND GAVE THE COUNTRY TO ANOTHER DICTATOR GIRIJA WHO HAS HIS WHOLE FAMILY (MORE THAN 20 PEOPLE) WHO WILL NOT LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. YOU THINK HE WAS RESPONSIBLE TO LEAD THE MOVEMENT? AMMM! AMMMMM! SORRY PEOPLE. THE MOVEMENT WAS LEAD BY THE PEOPLE AND THE MAOISTS AND HE JUST HAPPENED TO BE LUCKY. I WILL TELL YOU THIS. JUST SEE WHAT HE CAN ACCOMPLISH IN ONE MONTH AS PM THEN YOU WILL SLAP YOUR OWN FOREHEAD. NEPAL DON’T JUST NEED A SENIOR LEADER, NEPAL NEEDS A CAPABLE LEADER WHO CAN SEE BEYOND HIS NOSETIP. MAY PASHUPATINATH SAVE OUR COUNRY! JAI NEPAL!

  38. Nepalko Chhora Avatar
    Nepalko Chhora

    CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT AN 84 YEARS OLD, SICK AND UNHEALTHY PRIME MINISTER CAN DELIVER WHILE THE YOUNGER AND HEALTHY LEADERS ARE CONFINED TO CLAPPING THE BENCH AND YAWNING?

    THE ONLY NICE THING I SAW IS TO HAVE A WOMEN DEPUTY SPEAKER CHITRA LEKHA YADAV. WHY CAN’T SHE BE THE SPEAKER? IT’S HIGH TIME THAT WE GIVE SOME IMPORTANCE TO WOMEN. NO NO! I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT SUJATA KOIRALA. I AM TALKING ABOUT CHITRA LEKHA YADAV. NO KOIRALA PLEASE!!!

  39. Nepalko Chhora Avatar
    Nepalko Chhora

    THERE IS ONE MORE SECTION THAT NEEDS CHECKING FOR IRREGULARITIES. NEPAL TOURISM BOARD. NTB IS SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY ON USELESS AND UNEFFECTIVE PROMOTIONS. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE BOARD HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT TOURISM AND THE RIGHT MEANS OF COMMUNICATING WITH THE TOURISM INDUSTRY. “NATURALLY NEPAL ONCE IS NOT ENOUGH” IS THE LOUSIEST PROMOTION OF A COUNTRY. IT IS A FAILURE.

  40. guest_001 Avatar
    guest_001

    Kirat:
    I bet thats some good amount of time spent on making agendas 🙂 I wish ppl. out THERE could learn from you. See, this will to make the agendas without a personal incentive…it’s just among us, just reach out! I hope THEY are up to some positive moves this time.

    Yr. points make sense(at least in words) and im sure we got to know yr ideas through the blog. I hope u find a broader arena to share your ideas. Let’s get the press some more freedom and ppl like u will have a go!
    keep yr comments coming…

  41. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Thanks everyone but UWB has stopped me from making further posts. I guess they really hate my ideas.

  42. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Wow, they just let me in again! Now I am really grateful to all you guys for supporting me with your comments! Since last midnight till now UWB stopped me from posting anything! People power!

  43. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Hari, finally I am able to reply to your comments.

    You are totally wrong on the government not being able to pay it’s civil servants good salaries. Corporate Nepal does not even pay a third of the taxes they are supposed to pay. Tax officers actually facilitate this by accepting bribes and providing companies with loop holes. A proper taxation policy and then motivated taxmen would raise enough taxes to fill government coffers. Also initially we can use the foreign aid available to us. The World Bank and ADB would be only too willing to help with the salaries for an initial period provided the proper reforms were made. My auditors (two Chartered Accounts with years of experience) admitted that if tax collection (including VAT, Customs Duty, Lease Tax, Professional and Consultancy Tax, Income Tax etc) were all collected properly Nepal would never need foreign aid.

  44. Roshan Avatar
    Roshan

    – Frail, diseased and at the brink of collapse
    – Corruption, incompetence and cronyism
    – Bankrupt finances and ideology
    – Infighting, prejudice and distrust
    – Myopic political agenda

    Am I describing the newly appointed Prime Minister?

    Or

    The Country he now leads?

  45. hari sharma Avatar

    Kirat,
    I don’t know about your chartered accountants and I don’t know what sort of measurement they used to come to such a weird conclusion. Had it been the case, the world would not have been such a miser’s domain.
    You talk about tax sufficiency which I strongly believe is a wrong interpretation. Give me the evidence to it. We have been so much dependent on remittances these days.I think its about 16% of GDP. And, try asking international agencies for funds to increase the salary…you will have the response…
    reforms like what?
    Have you thought of the agreements on financing hydro-power stations in Nepal? What was the major concern for the donors? Raise the prices…but hey…Nepal does not do it. There are sharp reactions from the general public side. Remember the hike (which was a necessity)in oil prices?These people are weird. They look at short term benefits and forget the long run…
    I strongly believe we should not raise the salary without accompanied increase in production and resources. We are suffering from unemployment and if we are to give more to these civil servants, how are we going to build the most desired infrastrutures? Again, if we are to overburden people with taxes, we might end up creating disincentives to work to other people. So, the society is not that simple.

    Chartered accountants may have their simple mathematics…but economics is a complex phenomenon…interactions among various factors leads to outcomes totally different to those originally perceived.

  46. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Hari,

    First of all I am the guy on the ground here in Nepal facing the problems of this country everyday, you are the libertarian residing in the US so please don’t tell me to be ‘practical’ or to’ wake up’ OK? Within the confines of this blog I don’t think I could get more practical, dude. What, you want me to right a 500 page report on reform of the judiciary? I am writing with broad strokes, use your brains to understand the details!

    1. Judiciary : If you read my comments on the judiciary I have already broadly explained what needs to be done to make it a good, strong institution.
    2. CIAA : Read my comments properly before you comment on it-I have already stated that it’s needs reform-making it a really autonomous body with real bite. You want me to explain everything to you, can’t you use your brain on what reform means and what it’s aims are?
    3. Affirmative action : It’s has it’s drawbacks but nothing works better. Besides I am only talking about around 30% of the government jobs and seats in educational institutions and these people who will have the benefit of quotas will still need to have certain minimal qualifications. Do you know that right now that bahuns and chettris occupy over 98% of all government jobs (statistics quoting Himal magazine) in Nepal? And we all know how efficient this administration run by them is right now, do you think our janjati’s could do much worse? If affirmative action brings them into the mainstream what’s your problem? – don’t tell me there is no discrimination here- I have personally faced it so many times!

    Well I hope the above satisfies you. But knowing you, you probably think that the only one who makes logic in this blog is yourself!

  47. Bhudai Pundit Avatar
    Bhudai Pundit

    How did we land up on the subject of raising salaries?

  48. chankhe2 Avatar
    chankhe2

    Great ideas from people,

    But I must add the King tried to do alot of this himself at the beginning of Feb. 1 last year, but he ended up screwing himself, because this country is so corrupt that honesty just does’ny pay. The beureucracy, politicians all govt. agencies, army, police and especially the media are corrupt to the core and crucify people who are dead honest, people who they cannot control.
    Everyone knows what has to be done, you don’t need to be a genuis to figure that out. This has been discussed for decades till the cows come home. Implementing it is a different story. Believe me people have tried. And you know what they say about the one bad apple, but in our case it is hard to find the one good apple, just imagine that.
    It is’nt even a case of if you can’t beat them join them, it is a case of if you try to beat them they’ll fry you.

  49. kastur Avatar
    kastur

    Oye Buddhu Pundit, you pseudo-intellect or Real one? Post your resume here. I have a job for you in NY city.

  50. Kirat Avatar
    Kirat

    Hari,
    Well if you think you are smarter than experienced Chartered Accountants, who have been practising in Nepal for donkey’s years, in their field of taxation then I guess you are a real smart monkey!

    Do you know that Nepal Rastra Bank employees are one of the highest paid salary men in Nepal? Do you know that, amazingly, a substantialy number of banking professionals have left their plum jobs in the private banks and joined Nepal Rastra Bank under their various programmes? Do you know who helps pay for their salaries? The same World Bank that probably rejected you. The result? My company submits an application to remit USD 100,000.00 abroad and gets the permit without any bribing, without applying any ‘source/force’ within two days! Quite unheard of isn’t it?

    Don’t start with the chicken and the egg of only increasing salary according to productivity. Besides bureaucrats aren’t factory workers-measuring their productivity in many cases would be near impossible.

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