General Strike Day XVIII

Today’s protests saw infiltration of vigilantes while NC leader Girija Prasad Koirala and UML General Secretary Madhav Nepal have announced that they will attend a mass meet on Tuesday that will circle the Ring Road and make an announcement of capturing the inner parts of Kathmandu.

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No Entry Sign: Today’s strike witnessed incidents of loot in few places as well as vigilantes’s inflitrations. Pic by Bikas Karki

Evening Updates by Saroj and Deepak
Peaceful procession of around 10 thousand from Jorpati, Kapan and Mahankal arrived in Chabahil at 2 pm. Meanwhile, three vigilantes (one was Kiran Bista) tried to disrupt the peaceful protests. They hurled stones at the security personnel. The protesters immediately found out that they were not one of them. These vigilantes were beaten by protesters. They confessed that Inspector Pratap Gurung had sent them.

In another similar incident in Chabahil today, three vigilantes entered the mass and showed sword. They entered the house of Nhuchheman Manandhar when protesters tried to catch them. Protesters pelted stones at the house. But, he Human Right monitors and media persons prevented the house from further damage. The vigilantes told the protesters that they were sent by minister Nichhe Shamsher Rana.

Apart from these incidents, the protest in Chabahil largely remained peaceful. The protesters were 2 hundred meters away from curfew area. But, as the vicinity got tense, they moved 1 hundred meters back.

In Teaching Hospital, injured protesters, mainly from Gongabu clash, are undergoing treatment. Meanwhile RPP leader Pashupati Shamsher Rana paid visit to them. He condemned state ruthlessnes. Few protesters are eyes are injured resulting in their blindness.

Today, Lalitpur district saw massive protests. Mangal Bazar, Satdobato, Lubhu were the places of protests. similarly, in Kalanki, Shankhamul massive rallies were held and police fired rubber bullets and tear gas shell at the protesters.

Afternoon Updates

Koteshor is agitated today. Ruthless band of policemen opened fire at protesters that rendered many injured. Helicopter was involved in ariel patrolling. Security forces fired numerous shells of tear gas and rubber bullets at protesters. At least three protesters are seriously injured. A UN vehicle has taken them to hospital. The protesters have converged again and started chanting anti-king slogans. Few of them have embarked towards inner parts of Koteshor.

Samakhushi Chowk, 2:00

Protesters are participating in peaceful protest. They are staging sit-in in the road and chanting slogans. Most of them have arrived from Gongabu.

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  1. ‘The world community must respect the Nepali political discourse’

    In an open letter to the Kathmandu-based envoys, civil society detainees at Duwakot, Bhaktapur concede that the king is not prepared to transfer sovereign power to the people

    To the Ambassadors
    Of the European Union member states,
    The United States, India, China,
    and the Representative of the United Nations.
    23 April 2006
    Duwakot, Bhaktapur District

    Excellencies,

    We civil society detainees, kept at the Duwakot Armed Police barrack, believe that your governments’ welcoming response to Friday’s address by King Gyanendra was based on a misperception of Nepali political reality and a misreading of the address itself. Though surely based on the best of intentions, your reaction has needlessly delayed a peaceful transition in the country at a critical hour, when millions of Nepalis are on the streets agitating for an immediate return to democracy. This show of people’s solidarity carried out massively and peacefully all over the country and in Kathmandu Valley, deserves more respect than has been accorded by the international community.

    While the royal address certainly indicated a step back by the king, and it might even have been adequate sometime ago, at the given moment it was grievously misplaced in both tone and substance. In terms of tone: the king justified his 1 February 2005 coup d’etat; spoke in favour of the security forces despite their dubious record; did not acknowledge the need to engage the Maoist rebels; and ignored the incredible show of people power on the streets whose essential demand is that kingship be abolished or made absolutely powerless.

    In terms of substance, the king has talked about returning power that had been given to him for ‘safekeeping’, when the fact is that the events of 4 October 2002 and 1 February 2005 represented a naked power grab. Further, the king is not the custodian of sovereignty, which is naturally inherent in the people under the constitution of 1990 and it is not up to him to hand it back to the people.

    Most importantly, those who welcome the royal address seem to believe that the king has unequivocally conceded sovereignty to the Nepali people. This is not our reading. Nowhere does ‘sovereign’ or ‘sovereignty’ occur in the Nepali original, unlike in the translation, apparently provided by the royal palace, where there is reference to “source of sovereign authority”. In the Nepali original, the king refers to “state power remaining with the people” as part of listing the terms of reference of the government to be formed. This phrase is included only in passing, and does not amount to the king conceding sovereignty as residing in the people.

    According to two jurists, both framers of the 1990 Constitution, who are included in our Duwakot group, ‘state power’ does not by any stretch of imagination translate as ‘sovereign authority’. We believe that there is a sleight of hand involved here, by a royal palace intent on misleading the embassies. Overall, we conclude that the king is not prepared to transfer sovereign power.

    As things stand, what king Gyanendra has asked the political parties to do is to set up a government with ‘executive power’ but without legislative authority. In substance and form, this government would have the same authority, under the much-maligned Article 127 of the Constitution, as given to governments constituted thrice and disbanded as many times by the king between October 2002 and February 2005. The government would be an executive at the king’s command, meant to take responsibility for the excesses committed under the royal direct rule. It would only have the power over day-to-day administration, without authority to undo the ordinances, appointments, and other actions of the king during his period of active rule. Because the executive would act without the backing of a legislature, the king would be the authority of last resort, retaining the power of dismissing the sitting prime minister.

    Given the royal palace’s record, we know that the government to be formed would be hindered at every step as the latter seeks to pursue the publicly announced seven-party roadmap for peace and democracy. Nor would this government have the authority ab initio to challenge the army’s current role and the ongoing militarisation of state and society by the royal regime. Further, the royal address seeks to retain the link of loyalty between the king and the army. This is a far cry from what is needed: a government that works on the mandate of the People’s Movement and not that of the royal palace. In sum, the king’s grudging concession does not address the great issues that cry out for resolution.

    We appeal to your excellencies to also recall the many times that the royal palace has played the game of deception with you, and to introspect whether king Gyanendra, retaining all the powers as head of state not responsible to a legislature, will allow any forthcoming government to act independently. Your attitude seems to be “the king has given this much, take it and make the best of it”. Unfortunately, neither the political parties nor we here in Duwakot, are confident that the royal palace will not intervene in the workings of the executive to be formed. This would be in line with the historical record of the royal palace victimizing the people whenever there has been a move toward genuine democracy.

    We ask you, in the hours and days ahead, to be more alert to royal machinations and to support the political parties as they challenge the royal palace. For our part, we would hope that the political parties make a pro-active announcement and cease the moment. There is a need for such an initiative in order to prevent anarchy and dangerous collapse of state structures. For this, the political parties should unilaterally declare restoration of the Third Parliament and/or announce a parallel government. Thereafter, they should consult with the Maoist rebels who have credibly indicated their intention to enter open politics, and announce elections to an unconditional constituent assembly. We hope that the international community will come forward with immediate recognition of such a unilateral declaration, required to prevent Nepal from sinking into the pit of one kind of extremism or another. In such an evolution, we see no role for king Gyanendra other than as a mute spectator.

    Please note, Excellencies, that this is the only path to stability in Nepal which both the Nepali masses and the international community want so keenly. The world community, which has harboured such enormous goodwill for the Nepali people and which has been party to our nation-building and development efforts for more than five decades, must respect the maturity of the Nepali political discourse which is speeding the current, exhilarating People’s Movement. Please also note, Excellencies, the kingship is not indispensable for the maintenance of Nepali nationhood, and that it should henceforth remain, if at all, at the cognisance of Nepal’s 26 million citizens.

    The latest announcement by the Indian Foreign Secretary, about respecting the will of the people of Nepal, we believe, provides a corrective to the error evident in the Indian government’s initial welcome note. The Indian corrective, we believe, should be emulated by all other international players who wish the Nepali people well.

    Sincerely,

    Signed by:

    Anubhav Ajeet
    Bimal Aryal
    Laxman Prasad Aryal, former Justice, Supreme Court of Nepal
    Ramesh Bhattarai
    Kanak Mani Dixit, Editor, Himal Southasian magazine
    Dr. Saroj Dhital
    Daman Nath Dhungana, Former Speaker, House of Representatives
    Arjun Parajuli, poet
    Bhasker Gautam, Martin Chautari
    Dr. Madhu Ghimire
    Dr. Mahesh Maskey
    Dr. Sarad Wanta
    Dr. Bidur Osti
    Dr. Bharat Pradhan
    Charan Prasai, President, Human Rights Organisation of Nepal
    Padma Ratna Tuladhar, former minister and Human Rights leader
    Malla K. Sunder
    Rupak Adhikari

  2. The road to a fair CA election my friend is very far so we have to be prepared for the long haul. First Gyane has to agree or be kicked out, second the Maoists have to agree or have to be made to agree to disarm(genuinely) and then we might still come out with a CA that sucks thus a lemon of a constitution. In short-I say to the SPA take the executive powers, appeal and negotiate with the UN for them to have a strong presence here so that Gyane with his RNA and the Maoists with their PLA are neutered. Then start talks on a CA with all concerned (including us people) with UN as mediator. We might still come out with a lemon of CA and a constitution that sucks, But hey as long as the UN comes over we can get a new constitution without much violence, death and all round misery for us Nepali people. The new constitution might still suck though.

  3. How long does this moderation shit takes to complete. Its already 40 minutes but comments moderation is not complete yet. Why does moderation needed in blog except for foul language?

    I think Kirat has an idea how long it takes for moderation to complete

  4. My question has always been that:

    1)Can we wipe out maoists like what Suharto did in Indonesia in 1965? If answer is yes has not that been tried all these years without any success. What does that mean? Maoists are a recognized force in Nepal which has made the equation very complicated.

    2) Under the cirscumstances can SPA go with the King. Any sensible Nepalese can not agree after all what bloody KG has done. I am sure mass will go against any leader who speaks about reconciliation with KG. KG has completely lost any support that he may have. I was one of the persons who wanted monarchy in Nepal untill Feb-1 last year but for me I sympathise Maoists now rather than this bloody KG although I do not want Maoists to rule Nepal. I would say on my dead body.

    3) Maoists have taken the opportunity. They have infiltrated into the crowd. For me it is very obvious as SPA and maoists have had the 12 point agreement. Both parties said that they have done it for the better interest of Nepal if we take the agreement as its face value. It does not need to be said by BBC or CNN. It is a fact from day 1 as far as I am concerned.

    4) We do not need a person like KG. In my mind what happens when Paras will take over. Nepalese will be further doomed. KG, Paras and family should leave Nepal immediately otherwise I am afraid they may be perished in a very bloody way. By all means they are Nepalese and I do not agree in killing anybody how heinous crime that they may have done. Swiss bankers would be very happy as there would be nobody claiming what they have robbed from Nepal.

    5) When I watch in TV the police/security/army hitting relentlessly to the unarmed protestors, I feel like breaking the TV with anger. Of course being away from home in a foreign land you feel like going and doing whatever possible to these ruthless fellows. I can understand the feeling of all those in the street. How can you control that sentiment of the masses. Sorry KG for Nepal’s good your decision has come too little too late. You do not have a place in Nepal. Leave as soon as you can.

  5. Why the censorship Are you guys fascist? Just because I said something good about the maoists. This cannot be a very accurate site if you guys are censoring good things people say about maoists
    I’ve written two posts and neither were posted whats up with that

  6. Now Indians are showing activism to solve our probelm. If you go to bignepal.com and see the news, one Yuchury has met with Pranab Mukherjee and Jaswant Singh is heading towards Nepal tomorrow.Do we have any solution without the involvment of Indians ? As I am real anti-Indian, I never liked the problem solved by India and Indians.Sabai sakiye pachi tiniharule bhannechhan- saala uhan utna problem tha humne jaake mila diya. Do you understand what I mean ? If we are fighting each other, the foreigners will come to solve our problem. What is ant-hegemonostic policy of Maoists ? Rather,they are staying in India.And our leaders go to India everytime they need help. Actually who is running the country ? For the King also, Karan had to come and King yeilded to the pressure.Where is the anti-indian stand taken by the King and Giri and the company. Do we have anything left ? What about the enormous number of people in the street ? I think we are not capable of resolving our own problem amicably within Nepal.

  7. THis must be first time in the history of nepal the volume n magnitude of andolan observed.We are now near our goal. But the only sad part of this andolan is that the exposed leaders lai Girija who are equally responsible for taking this nation downhill is again the leader and all his misdeeds are being flushed away. So my appeal is that new generation of good leaders should come up by sideling all the fat n skinny asses like gyane, girija and all the known n unknown corrupt ones.

  8. Indians are showing extra activism in solving our problem. If you go to bignepal and see there? one MP from CPI Yuchury has met Defence Minister of India and he is giving lectures on how to solve our problem.Jaswant Singh is heading towards Nepal tomorrow.As a real anti-Indian, I can tell you that where are the Maoists leaders now ? They are in India.Where is their policy against hegemonostic policy of India on Nepal ? Even the King has to vow to the pressure of India after Karan Singh’s visit. Where was the nationalistic sentiments of King, Giri and company.Can we have our solution ourselves ? when we will start this culture ? Is there anything left where India is not there ? What is the respect of the people in the street ? Indians will definately say afterwards: WAHAN UTNA PROBLEM THA SAALA HUMNE JAAKE MILA DIYA, SAALA PAHAADI LOG APNA GHAR ME JHAGADA KARKE BAITHATA HAI HUMKO MILANA PARTA HAI DIMAAG HI NAHI SAALON KA.

  9. check out the new york times, http://www.nyt.com. good reporting about the hospitals (namely model hospital) and on the scenes reports from some of the doctors there and what they have seen. it is truly shocking. if people read this, and what Dr. Brian Cobb wrote about his own experiences, they will never ever let Gyanendra keep his crown. He makes millions of dollars off the poor people of nepal, and this is the thanks he gives, by ordering you poor helpless protestors to be brutally beaten. Thanks a lot, King G! I say, get out on the streets en masse tomorrow, Tuesday, as long as it takes to bring this king DOWN. Then get UN mediators and security forces in there IMMEDIATELY to keep the peace until a new government can be formed.

  10. Layman:
    Why did you expect the King and Tulsi Giri to be nationalistic and anti-Indian?
    DO you not know that Tulsi Giri has been living in India for the last 20 years? The King (the royal family) has always had an extreamly close relationship with India. In fact do you not know that Paras’s wife is Indian?

  11. Hello,
    Kirat, later, Laymen etc.
    It seems you guys are real “choukidar” not leaving the web for a single second from your “over wordy estimates and statement”. May be your ‘over indulgement’ will spoil the game. Sometimes, refrain from over powering and rest and let’s others statement come.

  12. another great article about the andolan in the villages, and how the maoists are requiring one person per family to join protests…

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    Andolan in Pokhara and Beyond

    Judy Pettigrew and Kamal Adhikari

    On a damp morning on 18 April a small group of villagers in west-central Nepal stood under the eaves of the Father’s Committee House, partially destroyed last year by Maoists, and chanted strongly worded anti-king slogans. There was nothing unusual about this except that the group were all children aged from five to ten and the slogans they chanted had been taught to them by the Maoists.

    Having observed the demonstrations in Kathmandu since their start on 6 April we travelled to Pokhara and into the hills on 17 April to get another perspective. We were particularly interested in getting a sense of the Maoist involvement in the Andolan in villages which have long been under their control.

    Crowds thronged the domestic terminal at Kathmandu airport even thought it was before 7 am. Huge packages and hastily inscribed boxed piled up waiting for security checks and the queue to pay airport tax wound its way half way around the building. Most of the travellers were Nepalis trying to get themselves and their goods across the county. A small numbers of trekkers headed for Lukla but none were on our flight. On arrival in Pokhara we were struck by the total adherence to the bandh. The only vehicles on the road were those of the Security Forces, the United Nations and the odd ambulance. Vegetable sellers had turned their carts (and themselves) into ‘tourist vehicles’ and pushed backpacks (and sometimes tourists) along the silent roads. A few minutes after we set off on bikes, a truck full of plainclothes policemen drove so fast out in front of us that we were forced to swerve. Cycling towards the centre we entered streets blackened with the debris of protest – the remains of burring tyres, tear gas, rocks and stones. The acidic smell of burning hung in the air. An oil tanker swept past with three heavily armed soldiers perched on top.

    Cycling away from the centre and through the suburbs we saw a group of protestors in the distance. As they approached several shopkeepers, whose shops had been half-open, rushed to pull the shutters down and retreat inside. As they marched towards us a woman commented, “It’s the Muslim julus”. Muslim men wearing skullcaps led the group, which numbered about 200, the flags of Islam mingling with those of the Nepali Congress and UML. We took photographs as they filed past chanting strongly worded anti-king slogans and cycled on. Shortly afterwards we came across a group of about 25 smartly dressed middle-aged women (and some young girls) walking behind a banner which identified them as member of the local Mother’s group. Like the previous group their slogans were all anti-king rather than pro-democracy.

    Far out of the city, in areas more rural than urban, we were surprised to see evidence of demonstrations at almost every intersection. Cycling along the flat motorable road in the scorching midday heat, we spotted a group of several hundred people walking towards us. Instead of flags they carried umbrellas and walking sticks and told us that they had walked from their village two hours away. We asked them where they were going and they replied, “We don’t know where we are going. We don’t know where we will reach today. We are just going”. We enquired about their sticks most of which were the usual village variety of walking stick, but several were overly sturdy. “They are for walking, but if we had to use them for self defence we could”. Their chants were the same as those of the previous groups – all anti-king. Half an hour later we met a middle-aged man who walked with a bad limp. “Where are you going?” we asked. “I walked with our villagers to the river,” he replied and added, “I can’t walk any further and so I am returning home. We all have to make a contribution to the Andolan and that was mine”.

    We arrived in the village after dark and the sound of a death-related ritual distracted attention from the unusually silent streets. Support for the Andolan was immediately obvious but it was the next morning before we discovered that the villagers were also following the bandh as the teashops were closed. A pro-democracy rally organised by Nepali Congress supporters held the previous week attracted several hundred demonstrators despite heavy rainfall. While most villagers do not support the Maoist movement there is a long history of communist activism in nearby hamlets and a continuous Maoist presence in the village. We were immediately struck by the Andolan-related Maoist slogans which had not been evident some months previously. A well-executed full-size drawing of a skeleton on the outside wall of a toilet suggested that the king was a ghost. Pen and paper drawings glued to the walls of many community buildings included one of a dinosaur. It was captioned “This animal is on its way to becoming extinct and we would like to put it in a museum”. A drawing of a scorpion was accompanied by a caption that stated that the monarchy had been sucking the people of Nepal for 270 years. Another depicted a weighing scale showing more support for a republic than for the monarchy. The slogan “Red salute for a rising republic of Nepal, we will be funeral bearers
    for the royal dictatorship” was painted everywhere.

    The Maoists are urging villagers to participate in the Andolan. The day before our arrival, they announced that each household was to send one person to attend a rally in Pokhara in two days time. Many villagers we spoke to were adamant that they were planning to attend anyway. Others who supported the movement, but had not planned to attend, now felt compelled to do so. Carried out on the previous day, the public punishment (black powder and a garland of shoes) of an ex-VDC member and pro-monarchy supporter who had asked the government to assist him in relocating to the city instilled renewed fear. Following the punishment, at which attendance was compulsory, the Maoists led a rally and chanted the slogans we heard outside the Father’s Committee House. It was expected that compliance with the Maoist order to participate in the forthcoming rally would be very high.

    On our return journey to Pokhara we walked through a small village and saw a group of men, including local Maoist activists, discuss the Andolan. Shortly afterwards we turned on the radio and heard a woman at a rally in Pokhara addressing the security forces: “We are your mothers, your sisters, your wives. We are paying taxes to the government, so why you are shooting us with the guns which have been bought by our taxes. Come on and join with us to get loktantra (democratic republic)”. It was only 7 pm when we reached Pokhara but the streets were empty. Stopping to buy snacks from a street vendor at Mahendrapul we discovered that the security forces had fired on demonstrators at several locations around the city. A fruit seller described seeing several people being treated in a nearby private clinic. Many of those injured had head injuries. “Go home quickly, it’s dangerous,” she said. As we sat on the pavement eating, a heavily armed and steel-helmeted security forces patrol walked by. We cycled on through streets strewn with the debris of the day’s protests. At the Lakeside tourist district, some shops and restaurants close to the brightly illuminated palace were open, but further along almost everything was shut and hardly anyone was out.

    The following morning we watched the curfew come into effect. Despite a very heavy security force presence and vans with loud speakers patrolling the streets telling people to stay in, many ignored the order. Initially the curfew was adhered to in the centre but in the outskirts people walked along the road. Some were travellers making their way to the airport, some were street vendors, but others were just out because they wanted to defy the curfew.

    There was near-chaos in the airport. A group of young women were deeply distressed as they had missed their flight. In a half-reassuring, half-bullying tone an airline official told them there was little he could do. Persistently they stood by the check-in desk requesting to be put on a flight. In the restaurant we overheard an employee talk to his brother by phone about a forthcoming demonstration. “I would like to attend,” he commented, but explained that he had to work. We listened on a waiter’s radio to an arrested professor giving an interview to an FM station from custody on his mobile phone. Unexpectedly a Buddha Air plane arrived ahead of schedule followed immediately afterwards by another. We hurried to the check-in counter to enquire. A frazzled airline official shouted, “Three of our planes have left Kathmandu together. Go into the departure area as one of them could be yours”. We spotted the young women hastily boarding the plane before ours. An airline bandh had been called for the following day.

    As we flew over Pokhara, huge crowds converged on the city centre and others walked towards it thought the largely silent streets. On the roads in from the villages large numbers of people walked towards the city. Our impression from our time in the area is that while some were obeying Maoist-called orders to participate, the overwhelming majority were doing so by choice. The protests of the capital and other urban centres make the headlines, but away from the camera’s gaze in the villages, towns and neighbourhoods across Nepal people are expressing resistance, defiance and asking for the restoration of democracy. Many are spontaneously demanding change, but the involvement of the Maoists in ‘encouraging’ participation and in calling for a republic is clearly evident.

    Judith Pettigrew is an anthropologist and Kamal Adhikari is a botanist and an MA student in Anthropology and Sociology.

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  13. Is internetconnection in KTM/Nepal somehow cut?
    Full day no mails/posts from our KTM friends, many of them in different places.
    Can somebody confirm?

  14. what a mess!

    for all of u who r wondering what’s happening with the maoists all over the country, they are either grounded for a master plan to come up with a grand sieze or there is total infiltration of maoists in the capital already. I agree with rp’s original post, maoists definitely have an invisible hand behind what’s happening today in this context. Ask ppl. in the remote areas, they will give u their answers.
    “here life is so much peaceful now”-a villager, from sankhuasabha.

  15. People have decided, the king must go first!

    Then an all party government under a civilian primeminister without party affiliation, but also including Maoists and former royal Army must call for constitutional assembly election and guarantee peace and law and order until the new constitution is worked out.

    May the people of Nepal decide their own fate now!

    Ahimsa knows: Kings are history!

  16. maoist in the mainstream is the whole idea that seems very idiotic to think as well as want.
    first thing the maoist will never ever join the mainstream cause it is very clear that they would not be winning even 5 seats in the free and fair elections.

    secondly, even if they do.. are the bir duh nepalis ready to forgive the loss of lives and terror of this 10 years.if nepal is ready to forgive that than nepal should be a country of hypocrites..

    the SPA a so called democratic force forms alliance with the extreme left… NC was the first to term maoists the terrorists joins hand with the maoist… only in nepal….

  17. Reply to all is absolutely correct. the maoists never had a lot of popular support in the rural areas (being forced to take part in something against your wishes is not the same as supporting it)…even if there were elections, they would not get that many votes. they know this all too well. They have used this whole alliance with the parties as their grand master plan and are patting themselves on the back right now as it is all coming together so nicely. They soon will be rid of a king, there will be total chaos in the country, and the parties can’t
    even get their act together long enough to find one strong leader during these dark days. the whole idea of the leaders each leading their masses of people from various points in the city seems patantly absurd to me…and clearly, as the above posted article shows, maoists are forcing people to take part in many of these demos. It is clear many of the people on the streets of kathmandu are maoists, themselvesand i’ve seen photos of some openly brandishing maoist flags, not even caring to hide their affiliation? Why should they? the parties are on their side now!
    I have this gut feeling that soon i will be back online saying (along with the ambassadors of various european countries), WE TOLD YOU SO.

  18. Hey Diaspora stop your absurd analysis.
    Talk sense and stop flaring the crisis.
    Preach Peace, tell ur relatives here that there is a way out of crisis by peaceful means.
    You are there you won’t die.

  19. THT: Clash going on in Chautara
    Sindhupalchowk, April 23: Maoists launched simultaneous attacks on the Royal Nepalese Army’s Naya Srinath Battalion and security forces deployed nearby to guard the repeater tower of Nepal Telecom …

    MBs in main stream? Day dream?
    They are otherside of a same coin of KG. They will attack more places to defame SPAs movement. Their attacks can not support People’s movement. Let us hope their attack is just a remainder to show that they are there.

  20. Maoists were actually losing in terms of military face to face. They are craving for a safe landing, and the moment the word const Assemb is uttered by KG, they will lay their heavy and exhsusted arms under some neutral party’s mediation. I am sure Prachanda and Baburam have more weight on their back than they imagined before. It’s getting just too heavy. They are ageing, and they are also willing to taste a bit of “satta sukha”. So a safe landing platform if given, will be grabbed by these so called “Krantikari”. So a provision of CA, with even a condition that there will be ceremonial king, will be a good meeting point to all.
    But, having said that, what about the cause for which these maoists did such a bloody deed for so long? The issue of good governance, equity, good development stream for people living in remote areas, progressive economic management, etc should be the main focus, and oh lord, if people like Girija and Sujata get to the power again? Back to square one. I hope there will be entirely new team with fresh and good spirits for driving this country.

  21. If these Maoists want to gain credibility, they sure have a strange way of going about it. I don’t like Gyanendra, but at least he gave something. It was little yes, but don’t the Maoists have the responsibility to give back anything in return?

    If they wanted to protest, that’s fine, but they could have done that peacefully. But after an overture, however minimal, if all they can do is attack, then I don’t see in what way they’ve changed. Or maybe they’re becoming so pissed off with everybody that they’re just going on senseless rampages.

    Gyanendra offered a way out for everybody. Granted, he would still hold power. Until yesterday I was of the opinion that the parties should continue with their protests. But with the Maoist violence on the one hand, and the difficulty of Kathmandu denizens on the other, what’s the point?

    If the parties don’t condemn the Maoist violence in the strongest terms, they’ve had it with me. And, by strongest terms, I mean they should announce that with one more act, just one more, even the most mundane, they’re splitting with them.

    Frankly, the parties need people on their side. As it is, people aren’t too happy with them. Its not too late for them. International opinion is still on their side. They can come to an agreement with the royalists, work out a reasonable consensus. We’ve seen that the royalists can bend. They will bend if the people are on the side of the parties. But if the parties continue this way, they won’t have anybody on their side.

  22. response 1, ‘the maoists were actually losing in terms of military face to face’? You sound like Gyane, making ridiculous statements to support your argument.

  23. looking at the history, commies have always joined hands with other political parties first then got rid of them later. to those who say “this is 21st centuary this can’t happen”. Well this is 21st centuary and maoists are rising.

  24. manan, that is the situation I too am seeing. There is a danger that the SPA will soon lose all credibility. I wish they would just for once act with courage and for the benefit of the people of Nepal.

  25. I’m utterly surprised by the Maoists. They are fools. Didn’t they just see that peaceful protests work?

    If the parties don’t condemn the Maoists, then all protestors run the risk of being termed terrorist appeasers. Royalists like Shirish Rana are going to have a field day.

  26. the thing that surprises me the most is that there are hundreds of injured people and 14-15 peoeple dead….. numerous rounds of tear gas and hawai fire….. lathi charge….destruction of millions of rupees of worth of public property…. sky rocketing prices and no fuel…. capital under total anarchy..maoist infiltration….blah blah blah etc…….

    PEACEFUL prtoest…duh!!!

  27. UWB decides to block my posting again.

    what a great feeling to praise UWB’s democracy and freedom of speech.

    i wonder what the criteria are for getting your postings published here? please advise

  28. Kirat,
    From analysis, you are the supporter of KG in disguise because you are asking the SPA to go to power at this moment. What they are doing now is 100 percent correct.

  29. If you think I am a Gyane supporter you are an idiot-man the lengths you will go to justify your constitutional expertise.

  30. manan,

    These peaceful protests have beeen orchestrated by the maoists, if you have not figured that out yet. Now Kathmandu people have been able to talk with many of them. Most say they are from villages 2-3 days walk away and have been told to go to Kathmandu for the protests by Maoists and not to return until they say so. The bulk of these people make up the middle and rear of the protestors. This is where the media also don’t venture. So the few people who get to speak to the press in front are all political activist.
    It is a complete political victory for the Maoists. I hope you will wake up and realise this, the sooner the better.

  31. st,
    if maoists have taken part peacefully in these demonstrations, timlai k ko tauko dukhai..
    donot forget maoists also are the people of this nation.

    actually, those non-violence supporters who label maoists as criminals should participate in these demonstrations.
    when they sit in their houses paralysed and maoists have raised voices in the peaceful demonstrations..
    who needs applaud and who needs boo?

  32. Taaya,

    Do you know these protestors have been forced by the Maoists to walk over 7 hours from their villagers to Kathmandu to face bullets and lathicharges? Do you think they are doing it out of their own free will? Is this freedom and democracy?

    My point is that the SPA should be bold enough to lead the country forward. I salute the protestors who have risked so much. The king has bowed down and cannot make a move against democracy for the next six months at least. Why can’t the SPA seize the executive powers on offer right now and move forward to a CA. Why are the debating on the merits and demerits of some article of an already dead constitution.

  33. ‘protestors have been forced by the Maoists to walk over 7 hours ‘ thank u for the inf kirat as i didn’t know abt it. did u hear it from Kamal Thapa. he also said maoists are there to shoot from demonstrations. and wht happened to that claim….he he
    hola, there maybe maoists , some by will and some by force. but if u assume there are only maoists..please go to the demonstrations (if u have guts)and watch the people there. i have been there and there are students, olds, youngs,housewives.. most were in their chappal and gharko luga that participated in the demonstrations when their fear of bullets and lathi was overcome by the energy and sentiment of the demonstration that matched theirs.
    sometimes turn off NTV and go and watch the demonstrations by your own eyes.

  34. again kirant,
    SPA should of course go ahead but not with gyane in hand but with power of people.
    ‘The king has bowed down and cannot make a move against democracy for the next six months at least.’ too funny.
    why r u mistaken that the royal proclamation was for people. common, that was just to decieve international forces. didn’t u hear how he praised the ones who killed demonstrators.
    and six months..if there was way by conciling with king are girija and shere so revolutionary that they denied his request?
    SPA always wanted to have a way by reconciling with the king. now they have undrstood there is no way with this king.
    u better also understand this.

  35. Taaya, you’re a nut case. Who said there are Maoists amongst the protesters? Now that you can’t categorize me you are trying to misquote me. I am saying those poor villagers have been forced by Maoists to walk all the way to Kathmandu.

  36. oops sorry kirat for it sounded i misquote u.
    but that’s my quote, there are maoists in the demonstrations and i am happy for this. we have to welcome more and more maoists in the peaceful demonstrations. we have to let them realize the power of peaceful revolution over violent one.
    I welcome all maoists and even royalists.
    if somebody changes for good we should support that.

  37. Taaya, why so much faith in the Maoists? Don’t tell me because they are Nepali too. Even Gyane and his henchmen are Nepalis and that does not mean we should trust them.

  38. why so much fear with maoists ? stop looking things from american capitalistic glasses.
    i donot say that maoism should rule. but how can u tackle the problem..by war? then the ony solution is dialogue and transformation.
    so i say offer a safe landing, most maoists (unlike royalists,driven by greed and samantabad) are driven by idealogies and dreams rather than violence and there are a lot better ways to get them to political mainstream.
    royalists have been royalists since centuries and maoists are there since decade..so u can see who r easier to change.
    the maoist leaders might be lunatics but a lot mass are there that can be changed.
    if royalists change for democracy, nobody is stopping them too.

  39. Hello everybody,

    I would like to express something about maoists.
    Where are their strongholds ?
    In the poorests and remotests places of Nepal.
    If some of you have ever been there (I did), it is obvious that even long before 2046, those places, especially far western Nepal, have been completely abandonned by the government : nothing worked there : healthposts, schools, food supply… everything was so corrupt that people were just starving far away from the capital.
    The very first thing that will have to be done in Nepal will be to put all the country’s efforts to develop those regions.
    Then the maoists will have no more reason to be.
    Otherwise it will be terrible.

  40. Cyp,
    u r right.
    guys of capital , blinded by american capitalism donot bother to clearly analyse the maoist problem and simply chant “maoists are the greatest evil; u have to crush them ,finish them”.
    maoism is not a problem but the cause for maoism is.
    once our multi part democracy addresses some of their genuine demands and promises and works for a better life, i am sure a big portion of maoists will leave weapons.
    ‘kina kasailai himsrak huna man lagcha ra?
    jyaanko maaya ta sabailai huncha.’

  41. Hi Cyp,
    I think people blogging right now need to read a bit about the history of Maoists rebellions around the world. Although if they would look closely at Maoist activities in their strongholds they would understand the true nature of the Maoists. The question is can they change their spots easily? Possible but until it is known for definite that they have reformed it would be a folly to trust them.

  42. kirat,
    u enjoy so much calling other stupid , idiot and silly.
    but this time u r sillier than the silliest sher bdr deuba. he also recognized conspiracy after kings proclamation and u left there hoping to utilize the chance.
    hehe…….u sure have logic but u miss big picture. ( i knew it when u fantasized king gyanendra is leading maoists)

  43. Mr. kirat,
    I am watching that however eccentric and novel might be the case, u are linking it forcefully to the world history. IS it always true that’History Repeats’. I don’t think so.
    And tell me,to trust the SPA who have done all but deteriorated political, economical , social , foreign….all the aspects of our country is logical and to trust maoists who haven’t yet assumed the authority is a folly? Put off your prejudiced specs for a time being, please.

  44. Cyp: You are a Neanderthal, dude. Still supporting the Maoists. Remember Pol Pot who along with his thugs massacred millions of fellow Cambodians.

    Kirat: I’ glad that your lot has evolved from polishing boots to actuially owning a company! Manpower Company, if I may? You seem to be one of the lone voices of reason in this blogging community. I’m glad that you have at least shown some allegiance to the Crown. Long way from Panchthar, eh!

  45. Seshyan Nepal, you’re a petty royalist sympathizer and oppurtunist. Not much else.

  46. Seshyan Nepal,
    supporting and sympathizing r two different things.
    we have deal with maoist issue. either u have to kill their soldiers or u have to transform them.
    what is your strategy?

  47. Seshyan Nepal: “kirat:I’m glad that you have at least shown some allegiance to the Crown.”
    really funny!!!

  48. Seshyan Nepal is the type of guy who when there are a lot of royalist bloggers on this blog supports the king and when there are a lot of anti-king people on board says he does not like the king-still a monkey, yet to evolve.

    And he would be suprised at what company I own- if he ever knew.

  49. Taaya, you know this idiot- if he likes my argument he calls me a royalist if he doesn’t he calls me a maoist. But frankly speaking I hate both Gyane and the Maoists equally.

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