Who Wants to Disintegrate Nepal?
Is This the Beginning of the End?
By Krishna Giri
The demand of ‘Madhesh Ek Pradesh’ is the most unpatriotic, unethical, immoral, bias and hypocritical act by any political force in history of Nepal. People from certain regions are neither calling themselves Nepali nor speaking their mother tongues and are enraged by the term Nepal. Most of them have adopted ‘Hindi’ as their official language raising apprehension about their credibility as well as their loyalty to ‘Maithili’ and ‘Bhojpuri’. Their secret meetings with Indian diplomats and official disgust slogans against ‘Pahade’ people have provoked and damaged unimaginable social harmony amongst Nepali people. The accents of ‘Tharus’ and ‘Chure Bhaware’ may sound little sympathetic but they too are standing for ethnicity based autonomy and many more communities are going to follow the suit. These voices of ethnic and racial based autonomy are the biggest and unprecedented threats to the national unity and sovereignty of Nepal. The most fearful question at this time is: Is this the beginning of the end to disintegrate Nepal?
Whether we interpret the modern Nepal as the expansion of Gurkha or the unification of tiny states by Prithivi Narayan, the entity is the same. During the expansion and during the protection of national boundaries, Nepali demonstrated their ferocious bravery. Technologically isolated but culturally enriched Nepal was gradually opened to the western world after the fall of colonisation. Through out the Nepal’s history, Nepali are univocal on nationality, integrity and sovereignty. It is only in the recent past that some stooges have started to play the politics of race, skin, language, and ethnic background. Have they learned these lessons from Sri Lanka, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Rwanda, Kosovo, Albania, or Bhutan? Who is the ideological ‘Guru’ for these cowards? Can they find any history in the world where it has worked? I got a simple retort; if you are not a Nepali, you do not belong to this land.
Prithivi Narayan had quoted 250 years ago as, “Nepal Char Jaat Chattis Barna ko Sajha Phulbari ho”. Nepal was and is home to multi lingual, multi ethnic, multi racial, multi cultural people. The most dominant ethnic groups are: Sherpa, Dolpa People, Larke and Siar People, Manang Bas, Lo Pas of Mustang, Olangchung People, Brahmin, Chhetris, Kirats, Newars, Tamangs, Magars, Gurungs, Thakalis, Brahman and Rajputs, Tharus, Rajbansis, Satars, Musalmans, etc. These people never had any problems in terms of their coexistence and in their nationality. But in the recent past, things have changed radically. Are these voices coming from Nepali people? Unjustified ultimatums, gruesome murders, abductions and forceful displacements of Pahade background people are not simply voices for autonomy. Burning Nepali flags, planned attacks against marginal ethnic groups, waging armed separatist movement, forceful demands for advantageous rights; are simply unpatriotic proceeds. I not only believe that south block’s interest is involved but also significant number of thugs guided by south’s interest have infiltrated in these uprisings. This saga began when Maoists started to teach lessons of ethnic based division and autonomy to spread cheap propaganda and to gain popularity. Ethnicity based federalism should never be declared and it will never work for Nepal.
Nepali people are known to the world by various synonyms such as Gurkhas, Sherpas, Bahadur etc. It all depends where and what industry they are in. But, ultimately they are all Nepali and to this date, all are proud of what they are. With the abolishment of monarchy, parties have also dumped the policies of social harmony, unity, integrity, esteem and sovereignty. The games of division, disrespect, disloyal and dishonour were never seen in Nepali politics before. As a common citizen, every body should have been concerned about the welfare of this country. But instead, few people are demanding autonomy of the whole economic hub of the nation, because they look different from most Nepali. They want to disadvantage other fellow citizens because they do not look like them. And they asking to leave their territory who look different. What kind of democracy and autonomy these people demanding for? All whites are not American and all blacks are not Zimbabwean. Having olive skin doesn’t mean one is Indian and calling themselves madhesi doesn’t mean they are not Nepali. The reality is they are Nepali and they must accept that and they must be loyal to this country and be committed for the wellbeing of this nation as a whole. Do not play the dirty politics of disintegration. South part influenced by India and the north part influenced by China will not make any one victorious, but in fact that will turn Nepal into another Kashmir, a disgusting territorial dispute between two brothers in the name of religion.
After decades of strategic failures in planning, development, and foreign policy, leaders are still tyring to master in puppetry. Every single day, the country is going backwards, however, the leaders are pretending in such a way that they doing something big this time. We see the same faces, which have enjoyed the spending spree of national treasury, going round and round selling different promises. I can not simply believe if these leaders have any spirits at all. I don’t think it is expected in competitive democracy to be in parliament or ministries after failing to gain popular votes. Some bloke is still dreaming of becoming the first president who failed to gain popular votes not just from one but two constituencies. One day a leader is labelled ‘royalist’ or ‘mandale’ and the other day once s/he changes the party, s/he becomes national hero. This all happens only in Nepal. How bizarre?
Leaders are working to develop a ‘khichadi’ democracy. They want to get bits and pieces of democracy from round the world and mix it together to write the innovative constitution in new Nepal. A mixed bag of capitalism, socialism, communism and fascism. A mixed bag of divided, abhorrence, irrational, primitive, pathetic, anarchic society. A mixed bag of ethnic, tribal, religion, lingo based autonomy. A mixed bag of criminals, corrupted, disloyal, deserted, conspirator leaders. And of course, the new party, which marched thro 15000 corpses to establish a communist state but turned capitalist overnight, as a new force to rule the country. And why forget the faction of that same party who abandoned communism but started a disintegration campaign in the name of autonomy. The country is at halt to divide the power. Five leaders in a closed door can decide any thing, anything, about you, me and the nation. I can not whiff any form of democracy in the governance. I have enough scepticism about the CA assembly and its functioning and power. I hope it will not be like former Rastriya Panchayat or current UN Assembly, where most of the members are no more than idle observers. The CA members must wake up now and stop this Madhesi model of federalism and come together for regional and geography based federalism. Time has come to save the nation, not the party.
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Krishna Giri
Canberra, Australia
krgiri@hotmail.com
Filed under: Announcements
People like Rajendra mahato, Upendra Yadav, JP Gupta, and Mahanta Thakur are bideshi dalals who are trying to annex Nepal to India. They deserve to be hanged.
It would be a diversion to blame the madehsi people for what is happening in Nepal right now. The seed for this was sown by the terrorists Maoists led by Bhittey restrapati teacher turned terrorist Puspa Kamal Dahal, Givddey five time PM of Nepal with no accountability Girija and always on the brink of being the PM but never the PM or President Madhav Nepal. We cannot, at this juncture blame anyone else but these three culprits along with ceremonial baburam Bhattarai. They are the ones who asked people to revolt, taught them violent ways to revolting and in order to grab power signed agreements after agreements, msot of which weere contradictory to each other. All this time they had kept monarchy in poweer so that the entire nation can engage on how to get rid on Monarchy and life in Nepal sans all the feudalism thatese thugs keep talking about, would be very rosy. What we are seeing after the exit of the Kind in Nepal is in fact the height of feudalism with Pushpa Kamal’s daughter walking into the parliament along with wives and sisters of most of the Maoists “leaders”. UML and NC were traditionally feudal and they have gone from bad to wrose. Now, the countr is in total mess and the seven party thugs have now found the medhsi people to blame for it. These are the thugs wo in public’s eyes resigned from the ministerial posts but are continuing to draw the priviledges of the Minsiters and are shameless enough to appear in public events and go on foreign trips as a minsiter. When are these thugs everr going to be accountable- only when Nepal is completely disintegrated?
Nepal never had a real unifying factor. In the past, we had artificially created the concept of the king being our unifying factor. Everyone had accepted that virtual focus of this diverse country and thus we had remained one. That is also perhaps the reason the old national anthem praised the king. The praise of the king was the praise of our unity. However, then we destroyed that virtual focus which we had accepted for the last two and half centuries, and now we do not have a replacement. In other words, we are yet to discover or agree on what unifies us.
I think that it is most irrational to insist that we stay united without defining why or how that can be done. Nepal government lacks the ability to contain any kind of rebellion.
If Madhesis want a different pradesh then that will happen. It is only a matter of time. If this deadlock is prolonged then it will only escalate the tension between Madhesis and
Pahadis. It has the potential to turn violent also. That will further alienate the Madhesis and bring them closer towards the southern neighbor. At present the Madhesis are not asking to become a separate country, but if they are further provoked by not fulfilling their demands soon then the may do that also. And then the disintegration of Nepal is
certain.
We wanted to abolish monarchy; we wanted New Nepal. Now we have it. It is inside our mouth but it seems like it is bigger and hotter than we had expected so that we are finding it hard to swallow. With the end of monarchy has also ended the old concept of Nepal’s unity: char jaat chattis barna…anekta maa ekta etc. Now, the burden is on the political leaders to find a new concept of Nepal’s unity. It was probably a mistake to get rid of our virtual focus of
unity without finding a real focus (which I don’t think exists) or its replacement.
Alright, let the party with majority rule the country and let them stop disintegrate the country. there is no point now blaming each other.rather working each other then. and another thing it doesnt matter what is char jat chatis barna if these madhesi people can think themselves as a Nepali ( not the Indian- associates) then they should be welcome otherwise get out of Nepal. and if they still stay. send them to the place where they want to be buried. and it is against each country policy to keep people’s who want to disintegrate country so the maoist government can decide their execution.
What the great British Empire could not do with all its might, our southern neighbour is doing without even using force. Hark, the British, if only they’d known defeating the Nepalese would have been this easy.
Gyaneji, the British knew that there was no need to defeat a country of chowkidars. They took pity and started hiring them.
This is a very serious issue. The author has tried to raise most important issue at this time. No one can rule out civil war if sensible moves are not made sooner than later
…all krishna giri could do is criticize like every other nepali does
nowadays….he talks about racism but his article shows how racist he can be. Talks about his patriotism….and leaves comment which are so unpatriotic.
First of all, DOn’t discriminate between ppl and race . Except that even madhesis are nepali and even they are proud to be nepali but its a fact that they are taking out their frustrtaion so prolonged biased sysem of governing. If they are fighting for equal proportion in all field like every other nepali has the right to do so.
Just a simple example : 800 people belonging to Madhesis in 1,00,000 huge strong army shows how biased was the country towards them.
Some people blame people like Rajendra Mahato, Thakur , Yadav for all these. What if even they follow path of maoist other underground groups of existing in our country ..Will that solve the problem. They went for a democratic process by electing themselves from the people and there they are. Try and not give their rights they will someday fight for different nation someday then you would be most happy creature in this world.
About “ONE MADHESH ONE PRADESH” ….everyday these leaders comment that they are not fighting fro one madhesh one pradesh demand anymore.. all they want is a province which belongs to ppl of their community. Even gorkhaland movement in Inida is about that.
Someone calls Rajendra mahato, thakur as dalals of india …..arsehole u can’t even recognize ppl …the biggest dalal r ppl like girija , madhav kumar …
“If there ever are great revolutions there, they will be caused by the presence of the blacks upon American soil. That is to say, it will not be the equality of social conditions but rather their inequality which may give rise thereto.”
…fckin giri living in australia still doesn’t even talk like a literate…
living in australia have you ever heard of “Aborigines” caste …..
“The Australian government has made a formal apology for the past wrongs caused by successive governments on the indigenous Aboriginal population”
Everywhere you have problem of inequality, injustice to certain group of population who has to put up a fight to get their rights.. same case in our country…
so just to get away with this problem ppl in our country blame that these madhesis are indians and they follow wat india says ….
nothing can be solved like this…..More hatred feelings will grow …..try and give suggestions and remove feelings….don’t just sit out there fukin enjoyin ur life and add fuel to the fire by disrespecting certain caste, creed…PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL SURELY BRING DISINTEGRATION IN OUR COUNTRY RATHER THAN WHOM YOU ARE BLAMING ……
gp:
You are a dalal too, including Rajendra mahato, JP Gupta, Upendra Yadav, Mahanta Thakur who are not true nepali. They just want to displace pahade from the terai. Actually, people like you are tamil in sri lanka.
If the leaders of the main political parties take a stand and agree upon one united Nepal then I don’t see disintegration of Nepal.
else, anything is possible given the current political scenario.
Some bloody madhesi are already making hot comments here…. this is an example of how these madhesi are over reacting to the problem…they already think having india’s testiclese in their hand..they will rule nepal…fk you fkers
come to the ground if you can hear the truths
go and ask your ganies where they come from and who really belong to this country
one a..hole tried to compare aborigines in australia with madhesi..what the fk u know about the aborginies..white people used to hunt aborgines and steal their childre form parents…is that what is happeingin madehs u s..of.bitch
BE ALERTED Nepali dajus bhais didi bainis..these traitors may strke on our way of life being
JAY NEPAL…LONG LIVE NEPAL
Hey guys,
there is nothing we can gain blaming each other. and there is nothing we get by blaming the author. people have rights to present their views we all have rights to either agree or disagree on those views. The views of Mr Giri are valid and current as of today. Braod discussions are required to reslove this issue. If we start fighting now, this may go for ever and really the contry plunge into deep trouble. Lets make sensible decisions. lets respcet each other. Lets be Nepali gusy.. peace be with us
One more thing, i live in overseas as well guys… there is nothing if a nepali living overseas writes some comment/article about Nepal. after all Nepali belong to Nepal. Lets unite countrymen/women. Let us live as a Nepali and stop makign harsh comments about each other.
And this is my view. people have rights to disagree with my views and i will respect that.
wat the hell with this vague nepali nationalism. how come by fedarating nepal and preserving the indegenous culture, religion, language and right to self determination makes anyone less nationalist and patriot but more a seperatist. or is is that everyone living withing the boundary of nepal has to be hindu, crapp out only in khas lang, wear only daura sururwal, etc. isnt it more fundamentalist and racist than the differnt ethnic groups demand for equity. WTF with indian dalal?? prithvi narayn shah brought muslim dudes to produce him gunpowders n rifles for his conquest, so did most the kings seek asylum in india, tribhuwan took refuge in india, worst of all girija n other corrupt vultures sold us more to india. wat differnce is nepali language from hindi, it similar dude, anyone can any language to speak, it wat democracy is all about…dont u f… doubt out nationalism by throwing vague nationalism…hail ningmafungma…..
Perhaps to unite all Nepalis is to begin to change the language of how we refer to each other - instead of calling someone a Tamang or a Newari or a Madhesi, call them a Nepali of Tamang descent or Nepali of Newari descent or Nepali of Madhesi descent. Until Nepali peoples all recognize Nepali first, and second have a personal culturally rich heritage, will Nepal unite.
How sad the bickering over name calling when the real problems of infrastructure, food, and education remain on the backburners of the politicos plates while they take more thousands of Rs from the CA without doing anything but fighting among themselves. Nepalis voted in to improve lives for all the peoples of Nepal not just the new CA people with their new salaries.
Hikmat,
May be you are in oversease and you love Nepal very much , it did mean that the people who are there in Nepal dont love their country.
Who made madheshi come to this condition?? Do you think madheshi leader UP Yadav or another? Ofcourse not. The condition has arrived because of leader, it is not blame , this is truth. I hope you know the difference between truth and blame.
Do you think PM GP was totally in COMA when he signed the agreement with Madheshi leaders? ofcourse not.
At that time in his mind there was just one thinking, Just sign it now, let the election complete after that what these madheshi can do??
This kind of thinking always in those leaders that what madheshi can do? and the present condition of nepal is result of this thinking.
OR
If he was fully aware about the agreement , he should find a way for present situation with responsibilty.
Politics is a dirty game.
It mostly breaks everything, including a nation.
mukesh je and all,
we should be proud of what we are..we all are Nepali. I think even the author is trageting those who donot believe they are not nepali or at least not vested by nepali esteem….its time to go further..develop the nation..bring the rule of law..peace and justice…why shall we play the bitter game of ethinic supremacy???
I do not support the ethinicity based autonomy anyway..it doesnot make any political or economic sense..we have to divide the autonomy regions in such way so that all nation can benefit…we donot need another form of castism in 21st century
If we want to go further..we must make sensible moves…if we want to stay here…we can do so forever
Lets unite..not fight
Hikmat,
I just want to say if the pahade dont want to develop we dont want to say anything but dont intrupt our development.
We are always in the condition” kahile jharla ra khaula” but now we want to make condition “Garaula ra khaula” .
Why you people cant understand. if an autonomus part madhesh of Nepal will develop more, what is the problem for you people??
Why you cant understand the autonomus doesnt mean seperate?
In china tibet is autonomus, do you think it is seperate from china??
But if madhesh will be autonomus all the politicians and the supreme leader like GP koirala, Madhav Nepal, who are being elected from Madhesh, there will be no place for them to be elect and enjoy the prime minister and other ministry.
To make their own place this is their trick to obstruct the path which lead to autonomus madhesh.
“But if madhesh will be autonomus all the politicians and the supreme leader like GP koirala, Madhav Nepal, who are being elected from Madhesh, there will be no place for them to be elect and enjoy the prime minister and other ministry”.
Mukesh, your statement above doesnot make any interpretation of automony or your respect to other people who live in terai. i believe you are educated and good person but you should not interpret the fight for automony as above. Do not try to make Terai like bhutan or sri lanka. prolems start as there and then..comments without respect to people and nationality and ethinicity
Let us understand we do have problems in not only terai but to the whole nation. if you travel to rolpa, bajhan, bhojpu and ilma, you will realise what the country is going thro. If you are a true citizen, you should be thinking for the nation. autonomy is good and i dont think any body is advocating against federalism, the issue how we divide the region for autonomy. in this respect i agree with the author that why some one need autonomy by their look rather than geographic regions????
Let us discuss the issue with respect to all
we need comments from mailadai
where are you mailadai>???
ADMIN guys,
you keeping the comments of bloody hypocrite and war but you are deleting my comments against them. this is not fair. be fair to all else grab a party flag and abandon the journalism. why my true comments about nepal were deleted?
Come as a nepali else leave the country
we have proved in history about how to safegurad our country and its territories
bloody traitors
NO More killings of Pahadi Nepali people in NEPAL
else…..the …begins
Hikmat,
Then what do you want?? to make another rolpa, dolpa , achham , on madhesh.
The place which can grow and develop well and faster let it grow well and faster. Don’t follow the policies of UML which is going behind THARU.
Many comment are on history, if we will go toward that it will be more trouble.
Some of my comments are also deleted I dont know why??
I think this is the place to put everyones opinion.
I also want to mention , the government can do according to maoist agreement and now why they can’t follow their agreement with Madheshi?
I again want to mention that PM G P KOIRALA was not DRUNK when he signed the agreement with Madheshi parties.
GANESH T… Can you define what exactly is Nepali??
Why are we blaming Madhesi, or Anyone else for that matter?? they are not the reason we are in this quagmire. We ourselves are responsible for all this. This is happening to us because of our failure of imagination.
The worst imagination is that all are like you and me just imagination
anyone in that dirty fighting place going to do a regular job
reinvent the wheel and make all chhetris and brahmins plummers
stop their water
I would like react on the comment of Krishna giri first.
I am extreemly sorry to use this language which I am going to use for Mr. Giri but there is no alternative he has left for madhesi. Not only madhesis but also any bodies blood will boil the way he has commented on madhesi people.
Mr. giri, you [icd] how dare you are to tell to leave the land of madhes to madhesi people? Is this land has given by your [icd] father?
Mr. giri, dont let our blood to boil any more, if you will make us to do so then you dont have to wait any more to see the days we will make you to vaccant the madhes and we have done also.
You bloody full who told you that we are not a nepali?
Your mother has given you a birth with small eyes,nose and ear it doesnt mean that you are only nropali. Your genetics is like that you will not be smart as madhesi.
Other things I would like to tell you dont analyse the nepal politics bieng as refusee.
Who told you that we are not using our mother language. we have made common language amongst the madhesi as hindi. It does not mean that we hate nepali language. Our national language is nepali only.
And also we dont want to devide our country, we only want our full riot. Dont try to hide the issue of one madhes as a single state by arrising the issue that we are not a nepali.
We madhesi are staying in madhes and madhes is our land so what is there wrong if we want to develop our madhes by ourselves only? We want to rule on our madhes by madhesi people only. We dont have a faith on bloody people like you.
If you have a fair that you wont get the food to have then tell us we will donate for begger.
The answer of the topic is : People like KRISHNA GIRI
As an author one has to be cautious while writing about sensitive
issue. Instead this author is spreading hatred. Why the hell one
should hate certain language. The old mindset that all Nepali
should speak Nepali has not gone yet.
if Girija, Prachanda, Madhav/khanal are really serious about inclusive and equal rights and also unity then they should sacrifice to leave the seats to those who are really deprived and suppressed like tamang, rai, limbu, magar, madhesi, tharu and other lower castes. Otherwise people think it is nothing but just the political false games and false assurances.
+++++People like Rajendra mahato, Upendra Yadav, JP Gupta, and Mahanta Thakur are bideshi dalals who are trying to annex Nepal to India. They deserve to be hanged.++++++
If Nepali Congress has to loose grip from the power, the aforesaid people will be provoked by the power monster NC leaders to turn the tarai into MADESHTAN, nepali version of Pakistan.
NC is the source of all problems in Nepal. People have just started paying attention to it.
I think whole problem is federation. If we make Nepal Federal Republic, we will see more of similar problem. We need to find solution other way out. The maoist were the first one who taught us how to disintigate the country. Congress and Yemale were never able calm down Maoist. But instead they tried to use Maoist as the Road to Singadurbar. Now madhishes are also trying to disintegrate the country. Only measure is to use army and preserve our national unity. We can not at all give madhishes whatever they want. The solution is bullet…
Hats off to Krishna Giri
why to blame the author
i dont see any hatered in his article. he tried to view the dark side of whats happening and he did not start these dramas….madheis are the ones who started this disintegration campaign….all nepali can unite but w hy not madhesi….why madehsi need auto nomy in ethinic based??? why????
I agree with krishna and if you guys have sense..he is not making any wrong comment…but people like you with hot heads will interpret things differently and ultimately biring even bigger problems
Think before you type your comments..you are making racial comments not mr giri
Those madhesis should be gunned down to save nepal as an integral entity. They are inferior to dogs who have no love for Nepal.
SOOOOOOO the author has become the centre of racial hatred humm
Congratulations Mr Giri…you have just become a national hero like mahato, gupta, yadab, koiral, dahal etc
bloody rats…you do not have guts to hear the truth
We need more writers who can write nothing but the truth
Hats off from me too Mr Giri. i must admit you are a courageous man..keep posting
Maxim,
Everyone know if the madhesh will be autonomus it will develop very fast. The developed autonomus madhesh doesn’t mean developed Nepal??
Do you think maoist killed 12,000 person that is National love???
To do politics doen’t mean that No love. Because of all the revolutionary act millions of dollars properties destroyed by different party , at that time also many words were coming that those people dont love Nepal.
Madheshi just want autonomus madhesh within Nepal. if you cant understand this , that is your problem may be you dont know the meaning of autonomus.
And use such kind of words which can prove that you are educated. Dont just open the blog and use rubbish word, it gives your identification.
Just curious Mukesh….
why you need the whole madhes as ek pradesh??
what is your problem is the state covers from mountain to the terai??
you think you deserve more than others because you in terai???
and do you assure that your model of autonomy would be the best for Nepal??
are you sure???
who will be responsible if your model does not worl??
there is no king to blame now
if you think with cool head,…disintegration is not out of agenda….very serious isse
Mukesh Jha:
Pahade do not need whole pahad as one pradesh. How dare you demand whole madesh as one pradesh? The day we indigenous tharus start killing all those Thakurs, guptas, yadavs, and mahatos, then people like you will be forced to cross the southern border to save your lives.
Here i’m again back ….
After going through all the comments posted in here ….. all i can figure is……there are some 200+ Madhesi CA Members in Assembly, they cover around half the nation in area and population, they are in leading figure in some fields of our country at least and still the basic thing is ::: You are still put up with a question mark on your NATIONALITY….is he a nepali or not….my god he doesn’t even speak nepali …..he is not proud to be a nepali???.lol!!! an individual can’t be proud of his nationality if he is put up with a question mark at every juncture and every at every end of a debate!!! People will reveal history and geography to prove that they are not nepali … We are leading nowhere like this i guess…..At last, its a fact that One Madhesh One Pradesh is not a right demand, but soon there will be a province for madhesi community and for others too!!! So let the politics go on…..and we will have many more thing to discuss!!!
Here i’m again back ….!
After going through all the comments posted in here ….. all i can figure is……there are some 200+ Madhesi CA Members in Assembly, they cover around half the nation in area and population, they are in leading figure in some fields of our country at least and still the basic thing is ::: You are still put up with a question mark on your NATIONALITY….is he a nepali or not….my god he doesn’t even speak nepali …..he is not proud to be a nepali???.lol!!! an individual can’t be proud of his nationality if he is put up with a question mark at every juncture and every at every end of a debate!!! People will reveal history and geography to prove that they are not nepali … We are leading nowhere like this i guess…..At last, its a fact that One Madhesh One Pradesh is not a right demand, but soon there will be a province for madhesi community and for others too!!! So let the politics go on…..and we will have many more thing to discuss!!!
The main region to make autonomus region is self respect, no one pahade community even think of madheshi as nepali nationality, since birth I have heard that madise, dhoti, bhaiya.
and still it is continuing. I think in your mind also there is same.
There are many other several reasons, what madhesh is getting from pahad?? i think nothing and if there is something that is hate.
The pahade rules on nepal more than 250 years, including madhesh and pahad now we just want to rule as we like to rule madhesh, what is the problem there, why you dont want us to develop and self dependent. Because you are scared and you have nothing there in pahad.
Autonomus madhesh of Nepal will be a model state of future Nepal. I am sure about that.
down to bloody pahadiya’s aristocracy in nepal !!
Its not the writer for the few commentators are really racist. they have clearly written that they want autonomy for freedom and self respect. and also quoted by saying ‘they got nothing in pahade’ and ‘they are jealous’
disgusting comments people..this shows who hates who and how you interpret pahade or other napali people..you want revenge against pahade people
its not pahade or rest of nepali people but you people are creating problems
ali:
you are a stupid muslim who can’t see the fineline that divides who is wrong and who is right. Look at how these madhesi YCL murderer killed an innocent muslim education officer some days ago. The killer YCL is a Yadav too.
There is nothing to be too excited people…there are still almost 50% pahade people in terai..i mean terai not madhes…madhesi are interpreting madhes as the region from rajbiraj to birgunj where there are more madhesis than Nepali (i hate to call so but i m forced as i am not madehsi and the agenda is clearly nepali vs madhesi)
I tell you what….if madhesi dont thinnk they are nepali…you are not going to win this…you may get guns from india but you never bring solution…every body loses…but Nepal remains only nepal and people reamins Nepali…time will tell who is patrotic to nepal and who is loyal to bihar/up
Mr Dont,
Can you count me what benifit madhesh is getting from Pahad???
That is true , the pahade leaders are obstruction for development of MADHESH, therefore they are making so many excuse and new ideas to save themselves.
They just not making fool to madhesh also using you people by saying that madheshi are asking seperate state.
We dont want seperate, nation we want self ruling state which will be a part of Nepal.
Mr love Nepal,
Can u define madheshi first???
Mukesh Jha:
The day we tharus start to go against you so called madhesis, all these guptas, thakurs, mahato, yadav, including you will be forced to cross the southern border for your survuval. we the indigenous people of terai do not need one madhes one pradesh, how dear you can claim one madhesh one pradesh? You are a brainless, faceless, and visionless creature who can’t see the fineline that divides what is wrong and what is right.
Mukesh Jha:
This is how I define madhesi people: They are the ones who came from across the border to rule the indigenous people of Terai like tharus. They are the most unpatriotic people who do not want to be recognized as Nepali because they have all sorts of dirty plan to annex the entire Terai to india.
Sunil
be calm and think again whatever you said. Can you think what is you tharus position and condition in Nepal???
You are just vote bank for the leaders. I also belong to the same villege where 75% tharu, who get sari, daru and paisa during vote. Why you dont go against these activities of those leaders and why you dont stop tharus to that??
I know tharus are most wise and intelligent in Nepal and another has no brain, so just want that u people use your brain and think again what the pahade party including NC, UML and another did for you till now.
can you count me what will tharus will loss if they will be in autonomus madhesh or autonomus THARUWAN state of Nepal??
I think they will nothing lose, but the benefit that they will have self IDENTITY, self decision place, self parliament and self running government.
Vivek,
Migration is universal rule and if you know the history , it is not need to say you this who migrate from where.
As you said that they come here to rule tharu, it is totally baseless quotation, the tharus are still ruling by those pahade leaders and still brain washing by them even they don’t have right to think themselve.
The time will say how patriotic madheshis are.
Madhesis are in Fijian Parliament, they are in British Parliament, in Singapore, In America. Everywhere they are creating ruckus. Since India is near by, Madhesis shouldnot be allowed at any cost to get the supreme position in any of the political or administrative position of India. These oily creatures will handover Nepal to their brethren in a shining plastic wrapper [Yes Nepal is so small that they can do that]
Sunil, I read your comment and I liked it. I too am Tharu. We are just watching the drama of Madhesis. Very confident that at the right time, we will be able to tear you apart. Beware guys. We dont need even the help of Pahade Nepalis. Tharu Nepalis are sufficient to send these Madhesi Indians, spinning to the space, out of our planet’s orbit.
{I have full respect for Terai Nepalis who speak Maithali, Bhojpuri , Hindi etc. I hate to use the word “Madhesi ” for them. This word has become too allergic.All those who ask for autonomy are Bastards. Mukesh, you too are a Bastard. If you can develop Madhesh, you do you need it separately? What have you done till today? Who stopped you in developing Madhesh? Hypocrite Bastard}
In the above comment, read the line
.”..supreme position in any of the political or administrative position of India”
as
“..supreme position in any of the political or administrative position of Nepal”
agree with Tharu king, sunil and vivek
blaming that pahade brainwashed tharus ..one madhesi is trying to buy votes and brainwashing tharus and other tarai resident people…what a shame
u madhesi are simply tring to destory this nation
simply traitors
why the hell the madhesi can not have the same views as thaurs..coz they are not nepali
we all have sincearity for nepal except madheis…
thank you tharus who showed real patriotism and love to this nation
you bloody madhesi should learn lessons from them rather than giving lecture
hats off tharus bros and sis
you madhesi…you can not brainwash real nepali people…instead you are and will be brainwashed by indian influence
Ask from your heart that Pahade rulers are not ruling on THARU,
These pahade leaders cant do anything so they are pushing you tharu up and want to make madhesh worse.
These Pahade rulers are stopping and obstructing Madhesh to develop. whatever income we have these all are taken by CAPITAL and we are getting certain percent from those. If we use all of the income sourse to just for mandhesh ofcourse it will be in better condition very soon.
Specially you people are basterd who has no future, no past and no persent vision. If you are real son of your motherland you should think to make it better. Even you dont know the mean of autonomous , you have no right to give any comments on autonomy.
Before saying anything think twice that you are 20% tharus and for you there will be no place either in madhesh or in pahad…
Despite plenty of foreign aid Nepal is still one of the poorest country, why? Because we are ruled by patriotic people from hill for hundreds of year. These so called patriotic people are root cause of present state of Nepal and real so they are terrorist.
It happens to a country where hard working people feeding whole
nation is denied in every organ of the state.
Mukesh,
Earlier we tharus and our Pahade brotheres and people with other ethnicity as Maithali, Bhojpuri etc comprised 100 % in Terai because that was the place which belonged to us and we had been living there since long time. Do you know Shakya Muni Gautam Buddha? He too lived here 2500 years ago. Now that guy is a pure Nepali, though later he belonged to the world. If you see the history then, there were Shakyas or Shresthas, Tharus or Cheetris, Brahmins, Lama, Magar , Maithali [Like Janak] etc.
Very later, people like you started coming from Bihar and UP. Specially the influx began 10 years back when the politics made water dirty and you guys wanted to make a big kill in turbulent water. Your Uncle would commit murder in Hariyana or Patna and then you would invite him here to be safe from Indian Law . Likewise all the criminals started coming here and it was easy for the South Block to forward its agenda with the muscle of Criminals and minds of oily hypocrites like you. Criminals needed the safe heaven , South block needed an autonomous state. We were marginalised and as you rightly said, became 20%. Your secret agenda, which is not hidden from any one of us is that you want to make Terai a play ground of dirty politics and launch a crusade against ISI or any outfits that South Block deems unsuitable for it. Meanwhile you also want to be safe from the Indian Law.
Is not the demand of autonomous state very recent? Earlier, population of your kind was few and most people here were Nepali heart. Now, the things have changed. You are trying to make a big kill. It is good to grab the opportunity but not at the expense of the future of millions of people living here.
I accept that we tharus have a low quality life and it is Pahadiya who are living a good life. But mean while there are also Pahades who live low life and Tharus who live a great life.
What is wrong with things being sent to Kathmandu? It is our Capital city and our mighty army lives there. Do you want it to be sent to Patna or New Delhi? In that case, I am sorry. It is not going to happen.
Time and again, the history has shown that
all the traitors are punished badly. Your strategy is not going to work very well. Alas, tharus have realised it and as a descendent of Buddha, when I see into the future, I find that you guys are going to have a very difficult time.
Bitter Truth,
One information to you. We might be a poor nation. But we are supremely confident that someday it will develop. At any cost we dont need your help, bloody Madhesis. You can go to Bihar or UP and help your brethrens. Why we are poor is because of your country. Why dont you give us access to the port? Why are you trying to block our progress?
Why do you allow Lakhs of Bhutanese Refugees to come here and increase our burden? Why dont you scrap the 1950 treaty? This infact is the bitter truth
Well said TharuKing…. we need more people like you
These bloody madeshi think the nation exist because of them and they are the ones who are always suffering…bloody they think they living in Europe or what… or Prachande le jastai terai lai 10yrs me Europe banaune..dont play with our heart and soul…
bloody suckers
Hey guys we need more anti madhesi comments…
Lets a pray for a prosperous Nepal ……yes Nepal not madesh
Tharu king,
It was not madheshi bring the 1950’s agreement with you. Madheshi never run to hide in Bihar , UP or any other state of India.
If you know the history Your pahade leaders always run to india to hide themselves.
From King Tribhuwan, Koirala family, and still Moist leaders including prachanda..
We are not the one who wanted to hand over madhesh to india. That was bloody your pahade leader which had given most of part to India in 1950’s and you pahade is responsible for that.
I think you have good knowledge of history and no need to say you much more.
We dont want to bring anything to delhi or bihar and UP, we want to use it in Madheshi land, terai land,. That is our land and it is our right and responsibility that whatever earning from Madhesh must be use to develop on that, not for PAJERO of you bloody PAHADIYA..
some madishe here alreayd sound like some keen to these traitor leaders
Hi all specially those bitten by bitter truth,
A person introduces oneself by his expression. The kind of expression shows the level of civilization of the person.
Coming to the point, all we want is betterment of Nepal. We can have
fare discussion and every one is free to present his idea. The low
level language will not help rather it will spread hatred among the
communities. Those who do so are real traitors.
I guess THARUKING is not a THARU else he would not have
lost temper being bitten by truth.
Make various autonomous states both in Pahad and Madhesh
and you will see the rise of Nepal. What’s wrong in demanding autonomy.
Bitter Truth,
You are right. First I am a Nepali, and then a proud Tharu.
U seem to have a kind of assumption that all Tharus are uneducated and cannot write English. That could be the reason why you say, Tharu King is not a Tharu. Alas brother, a lot has changed in last few years while you were languishing in a jail in Patna or begging in a footpath in the overcrowded NewDelhi.Your assumption is wrong. Tharus are rising along with Pahades. NEPAL IS RISING. So there is no chance for the Anti Nepal Elements.
Also you are right in saying that one’s expression shows one’s civilization. All of your hypocritical expressions shows your root, the direction where you come from. I hope that you are aware, India is very much worried about the development of Nepal and wants it to be great economy. Can there be a greater hypocrasy than that? Read my other comments above.
Ditto, you are showing. You are saying, Nepal has to be developed. And then at the same time you want an autonomous state. You are trying to take an advantage of the situation at this difficult times. You are creating ruckus in the Parliament. Your criminal gang, imported from the South is killing innocent Nepalis. Didnot you get better time than this?
Your level of thinking is very interesting.
You guys are champions in brainwashing . I think you are not even Madhesi, but footpath agent from UP or Bihar. Offcourse all of those who ask for autonomy are the Dalals of Ra.
Tell me one thing. When did you come to Terai? 5 years back.., 10 years back or 50 years back? In so short span, you are able to create such a big disturbance. Once you are given autonomy, what is the guarantee that you will allow the Nepalese to live peaceful life? Today you have asked for the autonomous state for people of Indian Origins. Tomorrow what is the guarantee that you will not say that the Birgunj and Biratnagar belong to India?
See brother… I have a suggestion for you. If you are a true Nepali, you yourself have been brain washed and so it is time you open your eyes and come in terms of the situation. Re-analyse, why your demand is totally irrational [Start from the point - Is it good to ask autonomous state for such a small country? You guys are similar to Indian people in appearance due to climate thing I suppose. So any unwanted force like Lendup Dorje can enter among you and create another chaos.. Also what is blocking you from developing Terai at this point. All of you have equal opportunity. You have even quota in nepalese army... Terai people are in Parliament, business and richer than Pahade. See how much money a gollchha or Khetan has!etc].
If you are some Indian agent, there is no use crying. Nepalese are a brave race. Though our incompetent leaders might have made us to appear weak now, we will definitely bounce back. We have fought great wars and won Who is Who of the world.
Bravery and courage of Tharus is renowned thing. So bitter truth brother, please come back to the fold if you are a true Nepali. Dont be silly. Contribute in development of Nepal. Join hand with Tharus and Pahades. Else your race it self will be a bitter truth in the face of Earth.
Mukesh Jha:
What happened when Srilankan allowed these terroist Tamil to live in Srilanka. They demanded a separate Tamil land creating all sorts of problems. Samething is going to happen in Nepal since we allowed those alien madhesi to settle in terai. Now, they are trying to displace indigenous pahade and tharus from the terai. All the ethenic groups should unite to chase away these unpatriotic madhesi from Terai. All these madhesi led by Mahantha thakur, JP Gupta, Rajendra mahato, Upendra yadav, Jwala singh, and Goit are Bastards who should be kicked out of Terai.
These madhesi are like Tamil in Nepal who have no love for Nepal. we need to do everything to upgade and uplift the quality of life of tharus community because they are really patriotic unlike these bastard madhesi.
The straightforward answer is INDIA.
It is the evil leaders of this country who want to disintegrate Nepal.
who else but opportunist bahun prachanda, who brought forward to divid nepal into pieces.
who can such a tiny state govern themselves. dont you see even bhutan can not govern itself.
we can not find one neta for then years, how are we going to find 20/25 netas for every 10 years. ..just a big joke.
i did not see or hear maoist, prachanda when some so called netas were trying to break nepal…………….to me it looks like maoist, prachanda seem one of the powers when they blackmail, threaten to kill,……………when its time ot use head they are no where to be found………………………….how are we going to be able to take them for another two years.
To, QPR,
It is the creation of your pahade brain that we want to break Nepal and Mixed it up with Bihar, Don’t push it upto madheshi.
How can even a madheshi think to autonomus from one and mixed up with another????
This kind of bastard thinking just come every time from dirty mind which is just with you pahade people.
we want self ruling, autonomous MADHESH including whoever there , will be there forever.
Mukesh Jha:
If the indigenous tharus do not need autonomous state, how come people like you madhesi need autonomous state. Today, you demand autonomous state, tomorrow you will annex the whole terai to India. This is just the beginning of the process to annex the whole terai to India.
What you need to understand is that the whole terai is inhibited by multi-ethenic castes like pahade, tharus, and others. What is the percent of you madhesi people in terai? maybe 20 % or 30%. We the indigenous people of terai do not want to be ruled by you aleins. By demanding one madhesh one pradesh, you are digging your own graveyard.
By the way, how much monthly allowance do you get from desh drohi like JP gupta, Mahantha Thakur, upendra yadav, and rajendra mahato.
In every country in the world, people talk about how to better unite the country… But here in Nepal they preach about how to disintegrate the country…….. If we are united nobody can beat us. But who will teach these Madhishes these lessions? Stupid ass holes…………
Wake up visionless and brainless mukesh Jha:
These madhesi are Lendup Dorjes of Nepal who are trying to sell Nepal to India. Before Sikkim was annexed to India, the stupid visionless Lendup Dorje used to be received on the red carpet in New delhi by the prime minister of india. But once Sikkim was annexed to India, then the same Lendup dorje used to be received by an ordinary low-ranked Indian officer in New delhi. These madhesi will meet the same fate that visionless Lendup dorje met once the whole terai is annexed to india.
stupid sunil, hari n ram
come babes first i am goin 2 to teach u the lesson abt” what autonomous madhesh or terai mean”
it is not to disintegrate the country but the rights to self determination, it gives full authority to the people living in terai like madhesi, tharu, n other indigenous group to rule by their own.
u may ask babes, whats the benefit then???
the benefit is that these people living in terai will rule by their own power , earn from their own resources, develop more number of employment, correct utilisation of their earning n income in their respective sector, huge n fast development , competition with others state in nepal, they dont have to wait for the leaders sitting in kathmandu (these leaders knows only to open their bank account in foreign, n everyone knows nearly all the leaders has full their pocket sucking the blood of these poor people), respect to the respective culture, languages, people n mannnnnyyyy.
whats the disadvantages then???
nothing but better than one centralised power in kathmandu wher u can find BHATE leaders ( just waiting for yr money).
what are the examples????
many countries all over the world has this system n very much successful.
what are the obstacles????
the name listed above like bastard who back behind corrupt leaders and do whatever they are said to do. they are paid for that .
if u bastard still dont understand the need n voice of people then u are born too late to understand n its not yr fault but………………….
sunil
who told you the indegenous people living in terai dont need autonomous terai.? its u like people to say that the autonomous system is bad in itself n it has nothing but will just divide the country.
if the power is in u like bhate hand means what? you can do whatever u like!! till now you all made these terains fool . but now the time has changed.
today u can be dominant over madhesi movement but tomorrow u all will have no place run like GPK, GYANENDRA and CHOR MADHAV NEPAL( u can see his face really looks like chor)
arun:
You are a mother f”cker who knows nothing about national integrity. People like you dalal should have no right to live in this country who came to Nepal crossing southern border. Go to hell stupid khali sishi bottle!!
To sunil,
I think when did you born in land of Terai, madhesh , whateve, may be a little early or late I born there. I have drunk same water ane eat same rice grown there. The matter is not for ethenic or indigenous, The matter is development and freedom.
You don’t want autonomous madhesh, you always like to be ruling by another ??? You always like to give your earned money to use Those PAHADE BASTARD to buy PAJEROS??? The million’s of dollars loan on Nepal now, for what??? did they take it for tharus or to develop madhesh???? do you want that those PAHADE leaders get and we terai baasi madheshi should pay????
If we have our own ruling state and you tharu will be in there I think no one madheshi leaders in future even think about India, to mixup with india is far way.
I want in the autonomous madhesh, tharus must need there, not for that they are indigenous, but for those leaders who will try to destroy the madhesh or it’s autonomicity.( no one know madheshi leaders will also be CHOR)
Arun, we have two big responsibilty on our shoulder, The first one is the make Terai autonomous and the second, we must have to save it from CHOR leaders. For that we need to do a lot of homework, dont waste your energy to write here bad words against anyone.
wyz,
First you write down your name here if you have guts. Even the person whose name is wyz, what is his another identification.
Do you know them meaning, who has no name??? called bastard………..
arun and others
who is opposing federalism..not most of the commentators and not even the writer
we are against your model of autonomy…whole madesh ek pradesh
bastards
why you want to decide your teritory
whats wrong with the region based autonomy
m..f…
suckers
Mukesh Jha and arun:
When sun rises in the morning, then we do not need to get together to determine whether it is day or night. likewise, it is pointless to discuss who you are and why you want autonomy. No ethenic group wants autonomy besides you madhesi. You two madhesi are the two sides of the same coin that is trying to disintegrate Nepal.
When a jackel’s death is nearing, then it enters the city. Similarly, the concept of ek madesh ek pradesh will undoubtly lead to the destruction of you madhesi people.
Mathematically speaking, when a person’s brain is inverted, then we need to take inverse of that person’s brain in order to bring that person back to the right track. I think we need to take inverse of the brains of all madhesi people, including Mukesh Jha and Arun. Remember to take inverse of your brain odd number of times in order to put yourself on the right track. Otherwise, there is no hospital on this planet that can fix your mental problem.
To himal
If you are good at mathematics and can understand the inverted brain then first bring your PAHADIYA leaders brain on right track which is totally out of track and signing here and there without vision of future.
Those Pahade leaders is bringing more trouble to this peaceful land not we.
This simple to say them that they accept autonomous madhesh as they signed with madheshi leaders.
wyz
i know far better than u abt the national integrity. its u like coward who dont have gut to listen the truth and use the vulgar words first.
if yr thinking capacity is limited then why u interfere . u like people should first improve yourself before giving any comments related to madhesh. u dont have rights ..as madhesh has received nothing frm u pahade but just hate
u all pahade are like BHEDA KO GROUP, where everyone moves behind one although the path is wrong.
hari [icd]
of course u n yr pahade writer will oppose the autonomy of terai thats yr nature. bcz u people never think abt the madhesh. just u want to rule over them.
autonomous is the best solution for the terains. u need not to think abt terai. it is we to decide what is the best system for terai. dont wast yr time here writing some stupid n meaningless system for terai.
develop yr pahad not rush n interfer madhesh . no madheshi believe pahade. u all [icd]
indian agents such as upendra yadav, rhidesh tripathi, jwala sigh etc who were born and brought up in india and are actually indians are shamelessly making a demand of a separate madhes state as though they have inalienable right to that land. hello???? are you lot out of your mind? how dare you have the audacity to make such an outrageous demand that is going to make the indigenous population and others of “pahadi” origin feel like outsiders in their own land. it would have been a different matter altogether had this demand come from the former-king whose forefathers contributed to the making of present day nepal. what gives upendra yadav, hridesh tripathi, jwala singh, mahanta thakur and the like the right of a claim over terai? in this day and age when people are not even willing to cede an inch who are these buffoons to lay claim over the whole of terai? terai belongs to all 27 million nepalis and not just them. knowing the politicians from their past records, it is but a forgone conclusion that they will just hand over the terai on a platter to these indian agents as they don’t truly value the sovereignty of the counrty as they were never a part of the nation building process as the monarchs were.
I am really amazed by the guts of Madhesi. Please unite to chase these thieves.
Personally I dot like people like Mahanta Thakur, Rajendra Mahato, Upendra Yadav because they speak hindi in parliament and dont bother t answer why are they doing it ? Neither do I like Girija or Makune because these madhesis are playing a bad game but its open what they are doing but what these Girija and others have been doing for so much time has to be taken into account, Its better to give Madhesis what they want, but at the same time its very suspicious that giving them their demand will disintegrate tis country because its open that these people are motivated by India and dont bother whether terai lies in Nepal or India. Time to take this matter more seriously, I am unable to answer this question but its a great issue and should be taken to referendum amongst all the people of Nepal.
Tharu king,
You are really a pet dog of UML, which is trying to protect it’s boss and bark on his direction.
You are totally out of thinking who really want to be slave for those Pahadiya forever.
This is 21st century, Grow up and think about you for yourself, would you like to give the same invironment to your coming generation?? Do you want to give Poverty and loan before they born,
These pahade leader didnt bring anything for our country except foreign loan, If you want to chase someone chase them first who are true Criminals.
We dont want to pay for those Pahadiya leaders ENJOYMENT. It is enough , we paid so much , now even 1 Rupee will pay for them.
Mukesh Jha:
I do not think TharuKing is a pet dog, but you are a lap dog raised and fed by foreigners. It sounds like Tharuking is a person who has utmost respect for ethenic harmony among all ethnic groups. Also, he has GREAT love for Nepal. I do not think he likes to speak in hindi in the parliament unlike your leader bideshi dalal Mahantha Thakur. People like you madhesi need to grow up
to PAHADE LEADERS n their CHAMCHA
if the madheshi demands are not fulfilled according to the agreement reached between the government n madheshi party then this fraud game will invite bad outcome for you all. it can lead to civil war, nakabandi, kicking of the pahade from terai.
this wont affect the leaders bcz they can import their necessity by air but this mistake of pahade leaders will bring to poor n innocent nepali .
tharuking,
yr father didnt keep yr name! how can? u bastard! i know that u are not the tharu. u are also the one of agent of UML wearing the mask of tharu.
u are not speaking in the favour of tharus but using their name in the protest , strikes, whatever which goes against madhesh.
Mukesh Jha:
The US is the most developed country on the planet, whereas India is currently one of the fast growing countries. No state in these two countries is autonomus. That means the Terai belt of Nepal can fully prosper without adopting ek madhes ek pradesh or autonomy. Why do you madhesi stick to the concept of autonomy or ek madhesh ek pradesh?
This clearly indicates that these madhesi folks do not know what they are talking about. That is why we need to invert the brains of all these madhesi, including Mukesh Jha and Arun as correctly pointed out by Himal.
Arun:
How much monthly allowance do you get from Indian embassy for working as their lap dog? Your leader Rajendra Mahato talks about group entry of madhesi people in Nepal army. But has Indian government hired any person of madhesi in the Gurkha brigade of indian government? Even Indian do not think that madhesi are capable and trust worthy to work in the Indian army.
We stick one madhesh one autonomous state because the behaviour of you pahadiya Nepali, your stupid leaders and their action.
We never have respect , so we just want to be self ruling, self developed autonomous state. where there will be self respect and brotherhood, not wrong behaviour with anyone.
Krishna - I want to point that your analyses on the ethnic subject is at best naive and shallow. I had to abandon reading it halfway.
Problems in Nepal was rooted in the very multi-ethnic structure and the continuous state sponsored division that was seeded through the centuries. Slogans of one Nepal, communities co-existing was just lip service for political reasons. There is no smoke without fire and the Maoists only triggered a bomb waiting to explode. Sure they used it to come to power and now have to taste their own medicine. But blaming them entirely for this separatist sentiments is stupid and naive. It is because of inequality and differential treatment of one community vis a vis others that fianlly gave way to this current situation.
If you are deliberately closing your eyes to this fact and still blaming superficial reasons, then I am afraid you are not only naive but unpatriotic, superficial and status quoist. but i do strongly agree ethnic based autonomy is a disaster.
One way to solve the present impasse is to select 75 CDOs from among 601 CA members. All CDOs should be of State Minister level and if situation permits CDOs should be from the same district they will be posted.
Once CDOs are posted they can form District Council representing all walks of life from that district for the development as well as delineation of the district by ethnicity or by language or by whatever the District Council desires.
At the present context federalism must be on hold until the new constitution is ratified. If Madhesi leaders are serious about developing Madhes and its citizens they should forget about “One Madhes One Province”. If Madhesi leaders know even little about democracy they should work within CA to write new constitution.
Bikesh
I don’t know how much Arun is paid but it seems u have been well fed by those embassies.
And about what Madhesis can do,u pahades must have known by now in back of ur mind.Coz just 2 years earlier none of ur leaders had time to hear any problem of madhesis,they were so easily suppressed.But now time has changed,U all r scared.U say madhesi people are coward,they can’t do anything but u don’t believe urself coz if u did u’d not be here wasting ur time.As now u r yelling,shouting for help shows how scared u r and how madhesis can bring nightmares to u if u try to supress their voice.
It’s just begining so tell ur leaders to wake up coz if u don’t hear usnow,we r going to not only shout louder but also clear ur ears.Watch out!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
To all Madeshis,
Do not make any threat to nepali people as a whole. Why you making threats ?? Would you have guts to make threats against pahade if you are not planning to hide in UP and Bihar. Then tell us who will be in trouble. by shutting down the highways and killing innocents wont show your bravery. i dont want to let down our history by talking about our brave history. how pathetic people..sitting in the in boarder, eating nepali water and food and ruled by indian sentiments
if your foot were not in two borders, you would have never talked like this. you all know how easy it is to run to india and make slogans against nepali people.if you model comes in or you force it to happen, then you will face the consquences.
bloody indians..dont call yourself madeshi…coz there are so many madhesis who are truly nepali and they are loyal tonepal….but you people making comments against nepal are not madehisi..you are fken bihari indians….you came to our country and now you need your own land…….its not that easy rats
bikesh, wellsaid about Gurkha in India
Mr Inevitable war:
Yes, there will be a war between pahades, tharus, maoists, and other ethenic groups versus short-sighted, visionless, and brainless madhesi like you who are guided by their vested interest. And time will tell whether you will be able to continue to live in Terai or you will be forced to cross the southern border for your survival if you madhesi continue to stick to your demand of ek madhesh ek pradesh.
You criminal madhesi have so far killed so many innocent pahades in the terai so far, but pahades have killed not a single madhesi so far. This clearly indicates that pahades are decent human beings who know the importance of coexistance and harmony among various ethinic groups, whereas you madhesi are professional criminals who are the Lendup dorjes of Nepal. Shame on you stupid madhesi!!! I think you should fuck yourself.
Your bideshi dalal leader Mahantha thakur delivered his speech in hindi in the parliament because he was an Indian first and became nepali later. When Prakash man singh delivers his speech, he does not do it in Newari because he is a proud nepali first unlike your visionless and faceless madhesi leader Mahantha Thakur. It is futile to teach a asshole like you. You deserve to go to HELL!!
HEY GUYS,
I have a solution………….
We have to follow Indian intelligence……yeah exactly…
we have to do the same thing to thease anti Nepal MADHESI as they did with Nepali people in Bhutan…
Ye baby…chase them and f..k.. KILL THEM
but this time refugee camps wont be in Jhapa and Morang but in BIHAR and UP
This way we will teach the lessons not only to these traitors but also to INDIA
what the f..k they think of Nepal and Nepali huh
we agree we have domestic problems bloody broght my f..kii. masoits…but hey we are also 27 million…ok SORRY 25 million perhaps..cutting those couple of million traitors.. do not try to destroy us….else you will be destryoed…f..k.. dhotis
To Hari KC
Not we madheshi are threatening tthe pahade, see the blog replied just above mine, you will know who is threatening whom??
Such kind of thinking will be stronlgy repaid to you pahade..