ब्लगमान्डू: संविधान सभा चुनावका लागि शर्त राख्दै माओवादीले गरेको अपील
Click on the pic to see the poll Schedule 1 and here is Schedule 2
This and the past week are witnessing interesting developments on the political front. The Maoist drama and its confusing and contradictory statements regarding elections have overshadowed the past several days. Amid all the uncertainties the election commission publicized the schedule of the Constituent Assembly polls that has helped to propel the election electin politics to new height. Then one UN honcho says he thinks elections are possible on November 22 which is also a matter of satisfaction. Also comes the news that the cabinet on Monday (20 Aug) has decided to nationalize within 15 days the property of the late King Birendra and his family and property inherited by King Gyanendra. Decided? Didn’t the government decide to do the same months ago? Still better to be optimistic and we are thiking positive. Here is the roundup of key headlines (and leads) of the past few days just in case if you have missed them:
Maoist U-turns on poll pre-conditions continue
KATHMANDU, Aug 20- The CPN Maoist renewed its call for a republic and a proportional election system as pre-conditions for the Constituent Assembly (CA) polls. However, in an ironic twist, Maoist Chairman Prachanda has issued a press statement floating a 22-point pre-requirement proposal to “ensure” that the CA polls are held on November 22. Prachanda has warned of strong protests including ‘people’s action’, ‘political’ strikes and public meetings in case there is no action on the 22-point proposal. The two Maoist pre-conditions – declaration of a republic before going for elections and a proportional election system – are not new and were incidentally already decided upon by an eight-party meet long ago. The EPA had decided in favor of a mixed election system and finalizing the fate of the monarchy at the fist meeting of the constituent assembly. (continue reading this article here or click on More read rest of this blog post)
Royal property to be nationalized in 15 days
By Yuvraj Acharya
KATHMANDU, Aug 20- The cabinet meeting held Monday after a long gap decided to nationalize within 15 days the property of the late King Birendra and his family and property inherited by King Gyanendra. The government will nationalize forests, parks, palaces and farmland owned by the royal family, except for King Gyanendra’s personal property. The meeting formed a five-member committee headed by Home Minister Krishna Prasad Sitaula to accomplish the task of royal property nationalization. The committee includes Forest and Soil Conservation Minister Dev Gurung, Culture, Tourism and Civil Aviation Minister Prithvi Subba Gurung, Law and Parliamentary Affairs Minister Narendra Bikram Nembang and Physical Planning and Construction Minister Hisila Yami. (continue reading)
Q & A With Maoist Chairman Prachanda
Q. What will be the status of the Koirala government if, in case, the elections don’t take place?
Prachanda: There won’t be the Koirala government if elections don’t take place. Not only will Koirala’s government go, the country will face a huge disaster.
Q. What kind of disaster?
Prachanda: The country will be caught in a complex civil war if the CA polls are not held in proper manner.
Q. Civil war?
Prachanda: Yes, a civil war. The series of events have shown that. At that time the scale of international forces’ intervention will be very large. Many people even indicate Nepal’s fate as that of Afghanistan and Iraq. But not Iraq or Afghanistan, Nepal could turn into a Vietnam of the 21st century. This means, there is a possibility that the Nepali people will once again have to revolt against international intervention. What I believe is, if the peace process does not move forward in a proper manner, yet another people’s revolt is a must.
Q. Are you in a position to organize that sort of people’s revolt?
Prachanda: The people of Nepal have to do that. We, on our part, could of course try to lead the revolt.
Q. But, how much possibility is there of deferring the polls to Baisakh (mid-April to mid-May) through an agreement by amending the constitution?
Prachanda: I don’t think so. It does not happen every time. There won’t be any situation where the Nepali people will tolerate the postponement of polls time and again.
Q. That means, if polls don’t happen in November, there is no possibility of polls at all in the near future?
Prachanda: I think it won’t be wrong to draw such a conclusion.
Q. For what the people’s revolt you are talking about?
Prachanda: Firstly, it is for holding of the polls. If that could not happen, it is for transferring all the power to the people.
Q. Power in the people’s hands means power in your hands?
Prachanda: Power in our hands means power in the hands of those who represent the people
Q. When are you launching your people’s revolt?
Prachanda: The process has already begun. Our comrades who are ministers have outlined certain points and given an ultimatum to quit the government if those points are not met. This itself is the beginning of the revolt.
Q. What will be the eight-party equation if the elections do not take place?
Prachanda: I doubt that the coalition will remain intact if the elections do not take place. Either the eight parties will again launch a fresh movement or some of the parties will join hands with the reactionary forces and some will reach out to the people.
Q. What will be the role of the PLA in the revolt?
Prachanda: The PLA cannot be used in course of the people’s movement. But, anything can happen if a situation arises wherein the country heads towards the people’s revolt. The PLA may not remain inside the ‘cantonments’. It will come out.
Q. What will happen to the UN monitoring/ supervision process if the election does not take place on the scheduled date?
Prachanda: The agreement was for nearly one year. If the election does not take place within that period then the UN’s role would come to an end. There will be no need of the UN to stay here. (continue reading)
EC releases CA election schedule
Schedule 1 and Schedule 2
KATHMANDU, Aug 19 – The Election Commission (EC) on Sunday made public the election schedule for first-past-the-post (FPTP), as well as proportional electoral (parallel) systems for Constituent Assembly election. All candidates who wish to contest for the 240 seats in FPTP should file nominations at the respective District Election Offices on October 5 from 10:00 am to 5 pm. The election office will publish the final name list of candidates on October 10 and provide election symbols on October 11. Thereafter, each candidate will be able to campaign for 39 days. However, EC has given only 17 campaigning days for candidates for the 240 seats in the parallel system. According to EC, political parties should submit a closed list of their candidates at the EC on September 30 from 10:00 am to 5:00 pm. (continue reading)
‘Security good to hold Nov polls’
KATHMANDU, Aug 19 – At a time when some political parties are hinting at deferring the Constituent Assembly elections again by raising the bogey of deteriorating security situation, a top UN official on Sunday gave the thumbs up to the security situation here. “At this point we think elections can be carried out quite fairly, that people will feel secure, and that in the end the result will reflect the will of the Nepalese people,” said B Lynn Pascoe, UN under-secretary- general for Political Affairs (the head of the UN Department of Political Affairs) at a press conference at the Tribhuvan International Airport before his departure. “That’s our goal.” (continue reading)
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148 responses to “Update on Nepal Politics: Maoist Drama and Election Schedule”
Foolish me -Okay let’s put it to you in a simplified manner – if we opt for a parliamentary system (i.e with a PM as head of government) then why do we need Presidents for that matter? Presidents in this sort of system are’nt elected so you will probably get your mumbo jumbo and some more avatar of Mao.
I could watch Sclridhen’s List and still be happy after reading this.
Foolish me -Okay let’s put it to you in a simplified manner – since we are a parliamentary system (i.e with a PM as head of government) then why do we need Presidents for that matter? Presidents in this sort of system are’nt elected so you will probably get your mumbo jumbo and some more avatar of Mao.
Neil,
Let’s practice some IELTS English –
Please tell me if the following sentences mean, sound, are … the same. My English is mediocre so help me out –
1. The political parties and the king have JUST AS MUCH if NOT MORE blood on their hands as the Maoist leadership.
compared to
2. The Maoist leadership have AS MUCH if NOT MORE blood on their hands as the political parties and the king.
They mean different things to me, BUT according to you:
“AS MUCH if NOT MORE does not mean MORE” , then both sentences 1. and 2. mean the same thing and there should be no further implications.
Or don’t they?
Man, Neil got pwned by Baje
the loser from the West has a moot point and I am not sure why we are spending so much time in this– now that a hardcore terrorist maosit is part of the security council, will hte Maoist terrorist leadership own up to any human rights violations that may be caused by the Nepal army and other security forces of Nepal. The answer is a flat NO– they will come out and blame everyone else for it. Teacher turned terrorist (TTT) Pushpa Kamal will not, even after they have secured a place in the security council as well as so many births in the minsitry as well as the parliament ever feel being part of the government- They keep assigning the blame of the “government” while they are are part of the same set up. I find it very absurd and ironic.
Neil,,,,,,,,,,
i appriciate ur effort to bring the fact in this blog. i didnt know that data about the killing by state and maoist. thanks for that pdf file.
i agree with u in most of the cases. i do visit this blog but not not so often coz i found it very much biased for last few months. just anti maoist, noting more than that.
i used to work in remote village during insurgency arround 2001/2002. i had faced with lots of maoists cardes and royal armies during the period. the situation was totally differenent than wot used to come in media.
general people never feared from maoist cardes coz they used to listen to them at least, we could argue them logically. ya i had problem with one maoist carde ,,,,,,, i m not saying they were all good but other than that they were responsible towards general public. during my stay for more than 1 year i never had any serious problem with them. i really appriciate one thing from maoist cadres, they study lots. may be some ppl think i m joking……… coz some ppl are fed with only bad news about maoist such as fighting and beating……… they were politically awared at least………. that was their need as well coz information been their life and death at that time.
lets talk about army, the royal army, wen they entered into village general public used to fear from them heavily. i m not being bias here. how jungali they were. they use to speak the words which villagers had to listen such a vulgar words for the first time, think about woman in village, how can they appitite that kind of words? beating , turturing to innocent ppl specially young boys and girls were common. i cant write every scenario here but they were horrible. our army needs to undergo very serious humaneterian training. its really bad image in public during war.
ppl who are in urban areas and listening state news have still hang over of it.
one of my fren who worked in maoist for 2 years after his graduation and left due to disagreement,,,,,,, then he fleed abroad. after that he regreted of leaving .
as he said the objective of maoist is in the favour of general poeple but process or methods gone wrong so many times.
so wot i say we sud support to them who try to do something and make mistakes than supporting to them who does nothing……….
decision is in nepai ppl. lets do in such a way our coming generations could be proud of us than spiting on us.
hawa- Presidents in a parliamentary system. They are usually appointed/elected by the MPs in Parliament who ofcourse are elected by the people. In most systems they can also be impeached by the elected reps.
I hate the Maoists as much as the royalists, why do you think I would want an avataar of Mao? Don’t get childish.
Kirat,
It’s not what you want. That’s what you’ll get.
There is no doubt that all three parties have blood in their hands. Probably everybody has their own opinion as which party has more or less. I guess the debate must be on the way forward and the methods to punish the guilty.
As I mentioned earlier we should voice for an International court hearing. All the crimes and HR violation offenders should be brought to the international court of justice. Let there be absolute transparency in investigation , let UN peacekeepers take absolute control of a country and let the trial begin. The offenders list may include from Political parties,Maoists,Army Generals, the King and even some ordinery people who deliberately involved in the crimes for finacial benifits.
First we must press ahead with CA polls in any circumstances, that will decide the fate of most of the people hence making a wayout for full fledge justice.
hawa-if only we could get what we wanted! I’d want a right dictator like Lee Kwan Yew for the next ten years! But if we chose a dictator we’d probably get an idiot like Prachanda!
Again – time for us to sign the Rome statute so that the guilty can be tried in international court.
scoop is right. why is the SPAM govt. not signing the Rome treaty? Wagleji-the press should start a campaign for signing this agreement.
Kirat,
SPAM govt. not signing the Rome treaty?
1. Because they have to control or even kill many ethnic peoples in the name of DESHDROHI to suppress their rights, and stick in power forever.
2. If they signed not only the maoist but spa also find guilty in terai ethnic cleansing, and killings during insurgency. The question will be raised why only king and why not these spam victims will be punished for their misdeeds ?
This is why the Rome Stature isn’t being signed…
http://nepaliperspectives.blogspot.com/2007/08/bahunists-and-bahunism-no-room-for.html
“Neil” writing in his non-IELTS name = “introvert”? Is this what’s going on?
no comment
introvert,
I have also faced the similar situation while working in remote nepal for 2 years during conflict period.
But in my case, I had a different scenario. Infact, people were afraid of Maoists because of their autrocities but they welcomed royal forces in their villages.
Lucky you, you met with good maoists and Lucky me I met with good security forces.
So both groups are equal.
No comments on human right abusers and so called human right activists.
introvert,
I have also faced the similar situation while working in remote nepal for 2 years during conflict period.
But in my case, I had a different scenario. Infact, people were afraid of Maoists because of their autrocities but they welcomed royal forces in their villages.
Lucky you, you met with good maoists and Lucky me I met with good security forces.
So both groups are equal.
No comments on human right abusers and so called human right activists.
Wham bam thank you, ma’am, my qustieons are answered!
I was hoping I got censored
Fire the entire press after lunch
Both Jwala singh and Goit are the DALALS OF GYANE
Both Jwala singh and Goit are the DALALS OF GYANE
Both Jwala singh and Goit are the DALALS OF GYANE who have received 50 lakhs each from Gyane to disrupt CA election. They are not working for the welfare of the Terai people. Instead, they are working for their vested interest. It is good that the police Gunned down the commander of the Jwala Singh.
Both Jwala singh and Goit are the DALALS OF GYANE who have received 50 lakhs each from Gyane to disrupt CA election. They are not working for the welfare of the Terai people. Instead, they are working for their vested interest. It is good that the police Gunned down the commander of the Jwala Singh.
Both Jwala singh and Goit are the DALALS OF GYANE who have received 50 lakhs each from Gyane to disrupt CA election. They are not working for the welfare of the Terai people. Instead, they are working for their vested interest. It is good that the police Gunned down the commander of the Jwala Singh. BEWARE OF THESE TWO THUGS JWALA SINGH AND GOIT.
ghantakarna……….
u might be rite too………… i think u sud have worked not that much remote area as mine. if the area was dominated by royal armies, they behaved better……… but if the area is dominated by maoists, royal armies became more aggressive towards the general public.
i also found that the royal armies better who were deployed in urban area.
anyway i hope everyone learned from the past………..
Jwala singh, the DALAL OF GYANE, is operating from Sitamadi, India.
Once upon a time Prachanda was also considered as Dalal of king Gyanendra and Koiral and Nepal were loyal to the king. Who knows these Jwala Singh and Goit may become heroes as being the dalal of the King Gyanendra.
Introvert,
Lets not compare who has worked and how much he has worked.
After all both maoists and army are fellow nepalese. Some elements are trying to pose bad reputation of we nepalese and take all the advantanges. Lets discard those elements and lets make the fraternity among we fellow countrymen.
I do not mind if people go for republic or for monarchy and both can not be totally neglected.
Tommorrow monarchist may raise weapons against republic, as republicans did on the past. So who will be the sufferer? Same.. we people.
So, we need a system in which all believers can be accomodated either replicans or monarchists, so that peace can prevail on our country.
Even CA polls is not sufficient, what if 50%-50% votes are divided to both believers? Has any one thought about this situation?
Introvert,
Lets not compare who has worked and how much he has worked.
After all both maoists and army are fellow nepalese. Some elements are trying to pose bad reputation of we nepalese and take all the advantanges. Lets discard those elements and lets make the fraternity among we fellow countrymen.
I do not mind if people go for republic or for monarchy and both can not be totally neglected.
Tommorrow monarchist may raise weapons against republic, as republicans did on the past. So who will be the sufferer? Same.. we people.
So, we need a system in which all believers can be accomodated either replicans or monarchists, so that peace can prevail on our country.
Even CA polls is not sufficient, what if 50%-50% votes are divided to both believers? Has any one thought about this situation?
Introvert:
I agree with u in the sense that this blog is full of prejudices for maoists.
these extremists should realise the fact that its only and only maoists who challenged the prolonged autocratic shah regime.Had they dared to?Why are they hoping before having maoists to rule the country.If u can easily handle the country to the hand of gory lovers and money servants,like girija and the groups who were completely indifferent toward people’s desperate needs than why can’t u to maoists.If this country has been a place for continous experiments of several self-centred leaders and rulers than why can’t maoists do it.maybe the result would be excellent enough to handle by nepalese ppl.
last but not the least it seems to me that this site is doing its best to find out another ‘ism’ and that equates “anti-maoism” through the labors like madheshi,kirat,hawa,scoop and all.After all they know only 3 words comment comment comment as the usual pathetic nepalese do.
We need to hang Prachande, Gyane, Jwala singh, and Goit tied together at one pole.
We need to hang Madhesi!!
It’s a plasuere to find someone who can identify the issues so clearly
I’m really into it, thanks for this great stuff!
A gal from BBA:
There is a saying in Nepali “Kura na buji ka na POOOKA na bholu”.
Great that a deal has been brokered with the Madehsi Forum! The only unhappy people will be the Maoists and the Royalists.
Hey, that’s poeuwfrl. Thanks for the news.
Nepalichoro:
Now, we need to add you to the list of these four people that have been deemed necessary to be hanged because you must be rotten YCL thug.
Prachande, Jwala singh, and Goit are the worst BHUSIYA KUKURS because these three sons of whore totally destroyed Nepal. So, we need to slit their throat as soon as possible in order to bring peace, prosperity, and stability in the country.
Budho pundit:
There is also another saying in nepali that”Bujhne haru taukama nachadhnu”
Madheshi commentators:
Whom do u actually want to be the people’s representative?
Can u plz name them?
Madhesi,
Yes, whom do you really support ?
lakure:
I do not support anyone who resorts to violence and who does not believe in politics that is based on competition. That is why I am totally against murderers Prachande, Gyane, Jwala Singh, and Goit. Even if I am not a communist, I am not against UML because they do not resort to violence. Is it clear now, Mr. lakure?
It’s always a relief when someone with obvious exirstpee answers. Thanks!
hey gal from bba,
i agree with u. hope for excellence result!!!!!!
thanks for comments, welcome the blog,
woman participation!!!!!!!!!!! dont think i m sexist
hope to read some more from u.
ghantakarna,,,,
i agree with u that either then royal army or maoists are nepali and we need respect both and move on for the interest of nepali people.
but i dont agree that royal aspects will raise weapon and so on. wot i believe 12 years long people’s war didnt happen due to the will of prachanda, baburam and badal……… wot we need to know that was the need of that time, ppl were ready for it…………. now situation is different…… another thing, we never ever compare people’s war with those mushrooming gangs in terai…….. if we do so coming generation will have to pay the cost again as we paid for last 12 years……..
i respect genune demands of terai…….
peoples war represents peoples revolt against feudal system in some context……. lets make it conclussive……
i dont agree some soft of activities done by maoists or ycl but there is no better option we have for now coz other so called ‘BIG’ parties are useless, tried and tested failures.
Madhesi,
I support totally with you but What do you say about Mr. Sitaula and Mr. Koirala’s rule ? Are you satisfied with the present rule ?