Nepal Will Have Interim Constitution in Maghe Sakranti!

Finally, clouds of doubts have been cleared in Nepali politics. It seems we can now be confident that the election of constituent assembly will be held in time. This Maghe Sakranti will have a new dish on menu: tarul, ghyu chaku and INTERIM CONSTITUTION! Today’s meeting of the top leaders of the Seven Party Alliance and CPN Maoist decided to promulgate the interim constitution on Magh 1 (15 Jan). Present parliament will pass the constitution and the interim parliament, which will be formed on the same day, will endorse the statue. There would not be any change in the constitution as demanded by certain sections of society including conservative full bench of the Supreme Court. SPM and Maoist have requested all Nepali people to be ready for the election of the constituent assembly. They have agreed to reestablish displaced police posts and send Village Development Committee secretaries to villages. Leaders also requested all people to raise their voices peacefully fearing that any violent protest programs could be exploited by the reactionary forces.

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  1. Good news – but please note – Leaders also requested all people to raise their voices peacefully fearing that any violent protest programs could be exploited by the reactionary forces.

  2. It is nice hear this news! But the very important thing is to establish the electoral culture in the Democratic institutions.

    To Parliamentary hearing and voting electoral process all constitution appointments such as Justices of the Supreme Court and appointments of the dimplomatic position must comply to this process.

    Without the approval of the representatives of the people of Nepal non of the constitutional and diplocmatic appointments should be considered constitutional.

    Any position appointed without the approval of the Parliamentary hearing should be consider (temp) temporary position that need constitutional approval.

    __________________ this following news seems polistive toward such progress ———-

    Kantipur Report

    KATHMANDU, Jan 8 – The top leaders of the ruling seven-party alliance and the CPN-Maoist on Monday agreed to promulgate the interim statute and form the interim legislature on January 15.

    The decision was reached during a meeting of the top leaders of the eight parties at the Prime Minister’s Residence at Baluwatar this morning.

    Talking to eKantipur, NC leader Arjun Narsingh KC, who was present in the meeting, said that the top brass of the eight parties agreed to promulgate the interim statute on January 15 and get it endorsed by the interim legislature to be formed on the same day.

    The reinstated House of Representatives, after passing the Interim Statute, will be dissolved on Jan 15, KC informed.

    The interim statute for now would be promulgated as it is and the technical and linguistic errors, if any, would be corrected and amended by the interim legislature, informed KC.

    —————————————————————–

    But following is the dark side of the news:

    “KC also said that all the leaders agreed to accommodate the suggestions forwarded by the Supreme Court (SC) justices regarding amendments to the interim statute, finalised and signed by the SPA and Maoists on December 16, “to the extent necessary.”

    Because we do not exactly ‘what is the recommendation of the justices?’

    Do these justices comply to the electoral procedures of the Paliamenatary hearing?

    Will they accept the need of approval for their appointments by the representatives of the people of Nepal?

    However, the positions these justices take are of the feudal oligarchic establishments.

    We should be wonder if they are willing to comply to the Dharma of the Democracy (the electoral process by the people’s right of vote and the votes and opinions of the elected representative of the of Nepal.

    Without ‘Electoral Dharma’ no Democracy can flower with its institutional developments to guard the civil liberty of people of Nepal with the provision to protect human rights of all mankind.

    Electoral Dharma is the heart and soul of the Democracy.

    With Democracy you cannot play ‘Macha, Macha and Bhyakuta’ – catch twenty two.

    Most of the politicians, party cadres and ruling elites even do not realize the danger of such play that stands against the nation and the aspiration of the people of Nepal for the brighter and hopeful future.

    It is axymoron on the part of the politicians, party cadres and ruling elites who joint the Janandolan II for the complete Democracy.

    Seriously do they understand and respect that in Democracy without electoral process direct or representative none of the actions of the body of Executive, Legislative and Judiciary can be considered constitutional.

    In support of Democratic establishments with the love of the nation and people of Nepal (me and all Nepali people), we have to trust the electoral process of the Democracy to make politicians aware that what we really want and therefore get your act together.

    It is the understanding of people, especially among the intelectuals from every walk of life from Nepali from the nation and around the globe can put the nation to right track to accomplish brighter and hopeful future.

  3. why does prakash bom always have to write verbose article and comment that people even dont have time to read. and his english sounds pathetic to me..i think he needs to do some writing course first before writing articles here…just a suggestion…

  4. English master Sameer, sometimes thought and ideas more important than writing correct English. I suggest you get to the point and stop getting into the nurve of someone else in this blog with typos and spelling.

    Do not try to be English master (rightous) unless you are willing to teach Prakash Bom

  5. “Nepal Will Have Interim Constitution in Maghe Sakranti!”; yes, it sounds good but I think, it is just something by which, in future, we all are going to suffer once again if It is not considered to be amended.
    This is not a matter to ‘rush’ but a matter to be deciding 26.3 million people’s future.

  6. this is great news.. I hope we can now start with a clean slate where there will be no third party to blame.. true that we will now have a parliament with no opposition in place- not exactly democracy as we know it, but we can try and give it the benefit of doubt and hope that we will get out of this transition period sooner than later and without much hiccup– for that the corrupt politicians and the terrorists will have to shed their skin of the past and show true statesmanship… now, the onus is on them to make this work– continuing to blame the invisible regressive forces will not work anymore.

  7. Interim Constitution was written in a hurry and was adopted by SPAs and Maoists as truce. Hopefully, the members of the Interim Parliament will look into it. Right now it looks like government’s social and economic program paper rather than the constitution.

  8. Neil Horning,

    The maoists will no longer be able to start an uprising because they are being pulled out in the open and it is for all of us to see how weak they are. They were extorting money directly from us before now they are doing it through the parliament. We are even supposed to pay their cadre lazy aasses pocket money. Prachanda by declaring Mr. GPK as a great leader has shown the world how small he is. And Mr. Horning what has the maoists achieved by killing 15 thousand innocent Nepalis? You guys have given up on Prachanda path have you not? So, what are the accomplishments of the maoists? Tell me please.

    As far as the interim constitution is concerned, Mr. Mukhereje must have directed Mr.GPKto keep quiet about it and agree with the maoists. We all know how he always visits the Indian ambassador before making major decisions.

    And what do you guys think about the eight parties’ silence on indian encroachment? Does this not make us more hopeful towards our prosperous future? Or did some one talk about giving them a benifit of doubt!

    And Mr. Bom, the reason some people really despise you is because you are on this delusional moral high ground that can not be any further from reality. What electoral process? What democracy? This is the country where police have rights to beat up poor people (taxi drivers, rickshaw wallas and so on) without a cause. This is a country where people fear the police, the politicians and the judiciaries more than they would fear any murderer or gangsters. Because police, the politicians and the judiciaries are them murderer and gangsters. Look Mr. Bom the freedom of speech, the electoral process and so on would not make much of difference unless our basic rights are protected but in our country protectors are the violators of our fundamental rights. I would just advise you to start from the bottom up instead off going right to the top and the center. There is no point comparing Nepal to the western world because it will simply not make sense. Maoists claim off taking Nepal to a european standard within ten years is simply absurd and you should not believe it either. The only way Nepal can get there is, if the maoists start terrorist activities in Europe and bring the entire europe down to our level or standard. I hope Mr. Bom does not take it personal, and understands that it is only my point of view. You just do not seem like you know anything about Nepal (except for what you read on papers or online news or even television). You should not believe everthing you read in media, specially in Nepal because there are writers like you claiming to be journalists.

  9. This is a country where the most corrupt gets more power, the biggest loan defaulters get more loan, the poachers get pardoned by the judiciaries and the murderers are given free seats in the parliament and hailed as future leader of the nation. So, Mr. bom we really hate it when you complain about the electoral process or other issues of greater significance.

  10. I am frustrated because whole purpose of revolution was diluted by the passage of time. Police and military are still involved in looting and murder. On the other hand, Maoists have not stopped their usual business of extortion, torture and killings. Then how you can organize free and fair elections. As recently, Murai Raj has said in an article, why not postponed it a little later and do it when the Law and Order situation becomes normal ?

  11. Himal Man,

    The concept, ‘Law and Order situation becomes normal’ is comperative idea.
    I agree, it should be postponed a little later but it should be amended too.

  12. B,

    Thanks for your timely comments. I agree with your comment that ” The only way Nepal can get there is, if the maoists start terrorist activities in Europe and bring the entire europe down to our level or standard.”

  13. Here is the reason. If it is delayed any longer the Maoists will call the whole thing off and take their fighters out of the camps. This interim constitution is part and parcel with “Prachanda Path.” They haven’t abandoned it. This has been the plan all along. Prachanda Path, according to the Maoists, is the synthesis of Mao’s Protracted Peoples War and Lenin’s October Road. The plan was always a long Guerrilla war followed by insurrection in the cities. The insurrection in the cities was carried out last April. The continual threat of uprising given by Prachanda is a continuation of this plan. Once the Maoists are in the government (with nearly 1/3 representation) that isn’t a demonstration of their weakness. It is a win.
    It accomplishes all of the goals they had set for the resolution of armed struggle. Mainly, the formation of a republic, which at this point is a forgone conclusion. This has been their minimum goal since at least as far back as 2001. You can see it outlined here: http://nepal.singlespark.org/mib/MIB01/AB%20CCDDDLOG.htm
    in Maoist information bulletin number one.

    If, when the Maoists get in to the government, they are completely ineffective like everybody else, then there is nothing to worry about (accept years and years more of horrible governance). Unfortunately, the Maoists, for better or for worse, are the most competent political force in the country. They are probably going to be much more effective in the Parliament than you are thinking. Likewise, they are going to do much better in the elections than you are thinking. Even if they don’t, the other parties are going to have to embrace all of the Maoists talking points (as many have already done) in order to compete with them in elections on any terms. As it was in China, the danger isn’t that the Maoists will ruin the country right off. Mao did wonderful things in China for the first 5-10 years. He became incredibly popular. It’s after the incredible popularity that the problems emerge.

  14. Mr. B,

    “Maoists claim off taking Nepal to a european standard within ten years”

    What do you want more than this by implementing the SPAM written constitution? Whoever and whatever abolishes make no difference if we are going to be living in european standard within ten years. Imagine Rolls Royce in Nepal, bullet train, 100% literacy, unemployment fund, free medical check up to all. Man we Nepali are earning $27000 per year (Rs. 20 lacs per annum) and which is average only. We are going to donote Indian and Chinese poor people in the name of Prachanda fund, Girija fund (our dedicated leaders. Imagine Mr. B what do you want more than that whatever law and order and legal procedures will be there?

  15. Neil wrote:
    “If, when the Maoists get in to the government, they are completely ineffective like everybody else, then there is nothing to worry about (accept years and years more of horrible governance). Unfortunately, the Maoists, for better or for worse, are the most competent political force in the country. They are probably going to be much more effective in the Parliament than you are thinking.”
    Neil, if the Maoists were such a competent political force, why did they have to hold the nation hostage, participate in the killing of more thousands of Nepalese, displace hundreds of thousands of them and stall the development of the country for more that a decade? Why couldn’t they articulate their competent political ideologies under whatever system we had running, gain immense popularity like Mao did and then bring about the positive changes that people like you believe the maosits are capable of. Why waste everyone’s time? You are also to be lauded for thinking so positively that they will be more competent in the parliament (which wasn’t the case some 13 years ago) than the current bunch of thugs. You msut know something that others don’t. Also, when you say that if they fail, it is not a problem, of course it is a problem– that will mean, we will waste so many more years yet again!! And your thesis that if everything fails they will go back to the jungle is also misplace– it is because they couldn’t remain in the jungle any longer that they had agreed to come to the peace accord. Their red bandana donning cadres who seem to be thoroughly enjoying their time in the Thamel night life aren’t prepared to go back, no matter what die hard fan like yourself think.

  16. Sagarmatha there is even no more logic discussing about democracy in Nepal.

    As far as Mr. Neil is concerned, well i guess is not concerned at all. Look, the fact is that the political parties in this country have never lost anything. They always win. But the sad fact about Nepal that Mr. Neil somehow seem to be ignorant about is that it is the people who lose. When Mr. Neil claims that getting a republic Nepal instead of a one with constitutional monarchy is worth 15thousand innocent lives i am convinced he must have cried when saddam hussein was hanged. However, i do not believe that so many nepali people gave away their lives just to get the king out of the throne when we have hundreds of murderers, thieves and gangsters in the parliament disguised as people’s representatives. Mr. Neil in case you have not noticed, Nepali people want better lives, significant lives or lives of relevance.

    Mr. Neil can you explain to me what the maoist agenda is? what are their strategies in education, health or economic sector? They have been telling all the people that a republic nepal would give birth to a new nepal and would somehow turn all the incompetent and corrupt leaders into angels. How? What if they lose the election, how would they make contributions then? What if they do not win any seats? would they then say, “well tough luck” and start poultry farms or something? Look the only gaurantees the maoist have untill now is that they would be a part of interim government not after that. They can rebuild nepal during the interim period now can they? Well, what if they are not part of the government at all after the CA? God, the whole thing is so fake. The maoists conviniently forgets about all the SPA corruption as if they have forgiven all of them in the name of people. Well, they might punish a few beurocrates but i do not think they would go beyond that.

    What strength of the maoists are you talking about. Most of them are getting sick and dying in their camps while Mr.Prachanda stays in luxurious hotels and Pampha Bhusal buys new fur coats. What will happen if they go back to the jungle? They will be defeated and they know it. What jung anyway? Prachanda and bhattarai had been staying in luxurious hotels in Delhi for the past 10 years.

    Like, Mr.GPK being called the greatest leader of South Asia by the indian pm, prachanda will be praised by the Indian pm as the greatest revolutionary of south asia. Prachanda will then bow down and touch the indian pm’s feet and that will be his accomplishments.

  17. Finally much confusion have cleared up after signing in an agreement for the promulgation of interim constitution on January 15 or the first day of magh according to nepali cylinder by top brash leaders from the eight political parties yesterday. Now Nepali people are becoming very much confidence that the election of constituent assembly will be on given time framework. after fixing the date for the promulgation of interim constitution, all political parties including the Maoist should reach in every corner of the country for creating awareness on sambidhan sabha . they should teach the people about constituent assembly, its important and its procedure. without teaching much about constituent assembly it will not be success and it can’t people asperitation that they have hatched up after april uprising.many workshop, seminars or many awreness program should be organised everywhere with the active participation of the people.top political leaders form the eight political parties should lead for such types of program and should have make the conducive atmosphere for the constituent assembly. even now people have many kinds of threats and fairs, such types threats should be erease from their mind. even now people have not accepting for maoist like other poltical parties, they have lots of confusion about maoist. so this maoist should reach every village from east to west, north to south of the country and make them assure that any kinds of mistake will n’t repeate again from the party. they make them assure that they had fought for the people in the past.this is the right time for the maoist to take the sympathy from the people. after few day whole picture of the country will be changed. Maoist (than called terreorist) have bagged the main political is going to inteirm government and interim parliament like other political parties. People have very much hope form the upcomming interim govenrment. they have belived that that government complete the constituent assembly with grand success.all of us give should help the succection of the constituent assembly at framing time.

  18. The thing I am not understanding the CA election is; how people get right to choose correct individual competent person? Because SPA(+M) will select them and people have no rights except to choose one of the SPA(+M)’s member whether they are good or bad. If I am voting for congress and Mr.X (corrupted leader)is the candidate then I have no choice except to vote Mr.X. The same face of the coming parliament members are going to be seen in CA, and they are going to make new constitution in the name of people. I don’t think even new faces will be seen in CA. Then why do we need CA just for fomalities instead of directly going to the final election although the new constitution has been accepted by SPAM.

    Otherwise there would be two choices for the people whether to continue the previous kind of democracy with or without king. Another one choice would be Prachanda Path (might be with some changes).Similarly, how the maoist insurgency and their success become proved if they loose the CA election?

    My suggestion is if SPA (+M)leaders feel they are copetent in front of the people then they should go indivually instead of parties flag. And allow all the interested Nepalese people to take part in the election. Make the the constitution and go for election with parties’ flag.

    Otherwise, this is nothing just the fight for the benefit of SPAM only.

  19. may be Neil knows the answer to this but will the terrorists and the corrupt policians allow people with all ideologies to contest the elections or will it just be people who on paper or in actual fact were “for” the April revolution that can contest the elections. The former is looking quite unlikely looking at the way the others are being chased around by the terrorists and the corrupt while the latter scenario will only make the CA redundant because we already know what these two groups want, e.g. interim constitution. Once Neil or the likes asnwer this question, then we can debate on the valid issue raised by sagarmatha…

  20. It sounds good while hearing endorsement of Interim constitution in Magh sankranti. It provides additional worth to Sankranti festivals. Raising disappointments from different sectors to this Interim constitution and saying no amendments will be done from the government side, is contradicting us. We general people don’t know, who is right and what is going on there. We only favour sustainable peace and we can’t compromise anything against peace. So it will be better to have intensive discussion on interim constitution in interim parliament and political players should use their efforts to come in common consensus before its endorsements.

  21. Interim constitution in this form has no meaning. A drastic amend with various suggessations is needed. On the behalf of ordinary people will have or not constitution on given time is a worth less discussion. There is still a lack of awareness level among litarary people. One of the dangerous thing is the position of the king in the constitution is still ambigious. The constitution has clearly defined the position of the king without the role but has given a clearcut status of head of the state. The constitution itself sufficient to disclose the so called revolutionary forces like maoists, NC and NCP-UML. If published in its present form it invites the division among the Nepali people which may be a rediculous mistake of the government allies in Nepal. And, the ultimate beneficiaris of this division is only India.

  22. Well !! It’s good to hear that the raindrops of IC will be dropping after the dark clouds of doubts in the kingdom (Oops ! now it’s nepalesedom) from Maghe Sakranti onwards. But it’s still a matter to think whether the IC really matters to whole nepalese unless isthayee shanti is really restored throught the nation. The bandas (undeclared ceremony of the calender) are still being celebrated in some parts of the nation esp. in the terai regions of Eastern Development Region and the people are forced to eqaulize the present condition with the previous nirankush reigm. If the promulgation of the IC is really meant to provide each and every nepalese basic rights, if it really becomes a synonym for the PEACE in the nation then of course it would be a milestone for us otherwise it would be just “Kaag lai bel pakyo, harsha na bismat” .

  23. I don’t have time to go over all the different rumors and falsehoods presented in response to my post right now. Pehaps I will revisit this thread later.

    One point:

    Waging a 10 year long war that results in a change of the stucture of government and 1/3 political representation is not a sign of incompetence. You may disagree with the method. But that’s all you can do. If the Maoists were as incompetent as the mainstream parties they would not have been an issue past 2001.

  24. The objective of the promulgation of the Interim Constitution is to put an to the 1990 Fuedal Oligarchic Democratic Constitution and its supporters like those bloggers who oppose it with their vested interest or mindset or conditioning (Sansakara) or insightfulness or lack of thinking.

    thapa kancha is one of them. The promulgation of the Interim Constitutions with necessary amendaments by the interim legislation will put an end to the tradition of regression of Gurkhali regresors.

    Lets see who wins thapa kancha like regressors or the spirit of the Janandolan II with the guidelines of the movement of the civil soceity.

    Lets see the dark-force of thapa kanchas win or the people-force.

    Yet to see soon.

    For your information you will not gonna get instant and perfect Democracy without some hardworks.

    I know you ‘thapa kanchas’ like brats
    Whose meal are made ready by the Nepali moms, sister-in-las, or sisters;
    Whose laundary is done by the Nepali moms, sister-in-las, or sisters;
    Whose bed is set everyday by the Nepali moms, sister-in-las, or sisters;
    Whose fathers have suched the blood of the mother-land;
    Come and write online on the Democratic blog like Wagle’s
    To spell hopelessness on the prospect of the Democracy;
    To give impress to Nepali people Democracy will not success in Nepali soil;
    With the current leaderships of the political culture.

    Nepali people ask you honestly, if you have gutts why don’t you come to the plateform and lead the future of Nepal.

    But brats fart too much without solid shit on the toilet pans.

    Readers know you come to distrub rational and logical thinking process of dialogue by farting on the faces of those who see the hope in Democracy to begin with something other than ‘instant and perfect dimocracy like your’s – thapa kanchas’.

  25. So Mr. Horn…. ……you believe that your statements are absolute! They are the only fact and others response are in general rumors and falsehood! HA…..

    Maoist and their so called war is total failure! If it was not peaceful movement by general people, your group’s so called war never gonna results in change of structure of the system! People follow them, and give some sorts of support them because of their gun, not to their ideology! Everybody knows this fact and it’s ridiculous that I am wasting time on this…

    Your so called war was a naked dance of terror THAT way never never changes and wins any regime so far!

    How would you define the recent activities of Jawala sing group and other faction who are started butchering, that your group used to do before?

  26. Look at the numbers. How anybody can say that Maoists are incompetent. They did not win single seat in 1999 election. But in 2007 they have 73 members in the interim parliament. At this time only loosers are Royalists. If SPA leaders do not grow backbones they may have the same faith like Royalists.

    Nepali Congress 73 74
    Nepali Congress (D) 40 42
    CPN-UML 68 73
    CPN-M 0 73
    Rastriya Prajatantra Party 12 10
    Sadbhawana Party (A) 3 3
    Sadbhawana Party 2 0
    Majdoor Kisan Party 1 1
    Jana Morcha Nepal 6 6
    Professionals 0 48
    Totals 205 330

  27. Shree– you are forgetting that these numbers are not as was voted by the people. These numbers were determined by the corrupt fatsos and the terrorists sitting together to determine who gets what size of the pie- all in the name of fulfilling the aspirations of the people. If that statement is actually, how do you actually describe the RPP continuing to hold onto at least 10 seats– how does that match with the aspirations of the people. It is one this to sit and divide up without having to explain to anyone.. it is a completley different story to win seats THROUGH elections. The real test will be in the ballot boxes. So, for now, the rule of the barrle of the gun has prevailed but let the people decide trhough FAIR and FREE elections sans any terror tactics where all idealogies are allowed to be debated. That is where real competency will lie.

  28. People follow them, and give some sorts of support them because of their gun, not to their ideology! Everybody knows this fact and it’s ridiculous that I am wasting time on this…
    ——————————

    Thats true, if “Everybody” includes a tiny clique of well off educated people in the urban centers and the discruntled elite in the countryside.

    The Maoist do their fair share of intimidating. However, they focus their intimidation on people who are already predisposed against them, and make sure to establish friendly ties with their potential support base. A buisnessman may have to pay them 50,000 NR a year. Yet a peasant is simply asked for Dhal Bhat every now and then. In short, they do things to gain the favor marginalised people (Dalites, women, poor peasants, etc) and intimidate elites because they don’t support them anyway. It is very calculated.

  29. Neil
    “Waging a 10 year long war that results in a change of the stucture of government and 1/3 political representation is not a sign of incompetence. You may disagree with the method. But that’s all you can do. If the Maoists were as incompetent as the mainstream parties they would not have been an issue past 2001.”

    The structure of the government is changed but only as an interim state. It would still need to be endorsed by the people, something i am sure you are not used to. Well, as far as getting 1/3 representation is concerned, we have seen it through out the history how terrorists get what they want through the use of arms and hostages. Well about their competence, the SPA seemed as competent, if not more, pre 1990 but the people have learnt that (unlike you) a real test is only when these fake leaders are put through the ultimate test of doing something in the interest of the nation for a change.

    And i will put this to you again…..

    Mr. Neil can you explain to me what the maoist agenda is? what are their strategies in education, health or economic sector? They have been telling all the people that a republic nepal would give birth to a new nepal and would somehow turn all the incompetent and corrupt leaders into angels. How? What if they lose the election, how would they make contributions then? What if they do not win any seats? would they then say, “well tough luck” and start poultry farms or something? Look the only gaurantees the maoist have untill now is that they would be a part of interim government not after that. They can rebuild nepal during the interim period now can they? Well, what if they are not part of the government at all after the CA? God, the whole thing is so fake. The maoists conviniently forgets about all the SPA corruption as if they have forgiven all of them in the name of people. Well, they might punish a few beurocrates but i do not think they would go beyond that.

    What strength of the maoists are you talking about. Most of them are getting sick and dying in their camps while Mr.Prachanda stays in luxurious hotels and Pampha Bhusal buys new fur coats. What will happen if they go back to the jungle? They will be defeated and they know it. What jung anyway? Prachanda and bhattarai had been staying in luxurious hotels in Delhi for the past 10 years.

    Like, Mr.GPK being called the greatest leader of South Asia by the indian pm, prachanda will be praised by the Indian pm as the greatest revolutionary of south asia. Prachanda will then bow down and touch the indian pm’s feet and that will be his accomplishments.

  30. “The Maoist do their fair share of intimidating. However, they focus their intimidation on people who are already predisposed against them, and make sure to establish friendly ties with their potential support base. A buisnessman may have to pay them 50,000 NR a year. Yet a peasant is simply asked for Dhal Bhat every now and then. In short, they do things to gain the favor marginalised people (Dalites, women, poor peasants, etc) and intimidate elites because they don’t support them anyway. It is very calculated.”

    Yeah, right!! Getting 10% from each of teh health post peons is very calculated– the guy can’t even make ends meet with his/her normal salary and after all his “tax deductions” s/he has no option but to eith take his/her children out of school or get credit from somewhere else. Yeah, he also has an option to be displaced–now, that is brilliantly calculated.

    And the same calculation never ahd any of the hard core corrupt politicians, loan defaulters, hard core rich royalists and large business houses. It was always the soft targets like trekking agencies, small and medium sized businesses, hard working wage earners, government officials who had no way to retaliate. And no, they were not necessarily against the Maoists to start with– they were, too, like many others hoping for that North star which would lead them to some prosperity. But the Maoists contineud with their intimidating tactics right through. So, Neil, you might have to do your maths again to figure out how calculated the Maoists moves were.

  31. If we are making New Nepal then why do we need old failure and unethical political players. It is better to remove them and bring new one with new concept and commitments.

  32. Did you guys hear about hotels charging 10% extra as service charge for the benifit of the laborers and the owners? What a farce! The maoists are happy and the owners now are not complaining. What about child labors working in small restaurants from 6 in the morning till 8 at night just for two meals? Why not do something for them instead of laborers from big hotels. And GuyFromKtm is absolutely right. They have categorized soft targets and tourism industry is one of the most vulnerable one.

  33. Another unspoken scandal is that they are keeping all 205 seats in the parliament and only adding new ones to accomodate the terrorists and the so called civil society who will end up being political appointees. In this resource poor countries, why couldn’t these soooooo committed corrupt fatsos give up some of their current seats on a proportionate basis so that the terrorists and the political appointees can find a seat for themselves. Why raise the total annual cost of the parliament by another whopping 60 million rupees. Where do we have themoney to pay for such inflated expenses? Dis the people who come out to the streets in April aspire for this as well?

  34. well my last comment got modertated off it seems but what I wrote was a new unspoken scandal is that they are only incereasing the number of seats in the parliament so that the terrorists and the civil society people who will eventually end up being political appointees. The so very committed corrupt fatsos didn’t even consider cutting down their current seats proportonately so that the new comers could be accomodated without spending an additional 63 million rupees annual budget for jsut the increase. Where does a resource poor country have Nepal to fund jamborees like this where we create more seats jsut to realize the goals of the terrorists and the politically appointed civil society groups about enjoying the warmth of the parliament. Why can’t the corrupt fatsos sacrife a few of their won seats if they are so committed for the cause of this country. Isn’t this what the people in the April revolution aspired for?

  35. bUBBLEBOMB: thapa kancha is one of them. The promulgation of the Interim Constitutions with necessary amendaments by the interim legislation will put an end to the tradition of regression of Gurkhali regresors……

    I am sorry that you are sick! So you are the only very supporter of peoples movement and nobody else? For you it seems that after Maghe Sakranti everything will be smooth when the terroists who intimidate people with calculation ( that who needs how much intimidation! VERY TRUE…… ) shares powers. Good luck Mr. Bubblebomb! I am afraid that you are going to vanish like a bubble!

    In my opinion, constitution was or will not be a problem for Nepal. The real problem is with incompetent and corrupt leaders in power. Now their joins another bunch of butchers to rule me!

    You are sick in the sense that you cannot digest your opposition similar to your wild cousin. You can buy Mr. Prachande’s words that he is going to take Nepal among the top of South Asia and and eUROPEAN sTANDARD within 10 years but I cannnot! You can buy his statement about Mr GPK but I cannot!
    I haven’t seen any real grounds that things will drastically changed when Maoist start to get their share legally. If you think it’s regression; then sure and so am I!

  36. BuubleBomb : Nepali people ask you honestly…….and blah blah blah……

    So you represent Nepali People! And your voice is Nepali people’s voice! Are you sure?
    Here is another fellow like those who intimidate, butchered poor people with calculation in the name of people and people’s war!

  37. Bubble:
    Don’t drop your shit in the name of nepali people! You don’t have any right to represent Nepali people! My view is soley mine and I have no intrests to go to the ground! It eventually seems that you have an intrest to represent Nepali people then why you are suggesting me to go to the ground? Better look your face boy!

  38. B: You can find some links to get you started in my blog post here: http://neilsnepal.wordpress.com/2006/12/23/maoist-economic-policy/

    I’ll paraphrase some of what I believe they are planning.

    Economic. They are going to concentrate re-absorbing Nepal’s labor force by focusing and infrastructure projects (such as small scale hydro power) created through indigenous labor. At the same time the will create policies based on creating an industrial base in manufacturing area’s that Nepal has comparative advantage in. Attention will be paid toward development projects that industrialize the countryside rather than cramming more people in to the cities.

    The PLA will be combined with the RNA, and then gradually the national standing army will be brought down to a negligible standing force. It will be replaced by a universal conscription policy similar to that of Switzerland:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Switzerland#Naval_Patrol

    This universal service army will most likely also be mobilized for development work.

    The Maoists have consistently told me that education will be reformed to be more “practical.” I understand this to mean that instead of giving everyone the same education and then ranking them (with only the top performers moving on to college) Students that do not wish to pursue intellectual backgrounds will be given practical training to better prepare them for life as a farmer, construction worker, etc.

    There will also be attempts made to replace elements of the education system focusing on various aspects of royalty to be replaced by “the history of the people.” Which I understand to mean a focus on the many different cultures and ethnic groups within the country and their histories. Hopefully this would promote cultural harmony.

    Of course they will also probably enact laws on completely ideological grounds and/or to appease their base that make little to no economic sense While continuing to insert their propaganda into the public sphere at any given opportunity. All the while they are going to moving their goal posts ahead. As they are Marxist-Leninist-Maoists they therefore also believe in “continuous revolution” which will mean mobilizing their political base into various uprisings of non-electoral (though probably non-violent) action.

    OK, thats a start.

  39. Read this News:

    Posted by admin on 2007/1/11 2:36:46

    Asia : Nepal Maoists offer to forgive, forget

    Kathmandu, Jan 11 (IANS) Poised to re-enter parliament after a decade of guerrilla warfare, Nepal’s Maoists have said they are willing to forgive and forget the foreign governments that cracked down on them as terrorists and have no “working relations” with any terror group abroad.

    As the communist guerrillas get ready to send 73 members to parliament Monday and soon join the government, their newly appointed international affairs chief Chandra Prakash Gajurel, known as Gaurav during his days underground, has outlined the party’s foreign affairs policy, saying it would be based on reconciliation and peaceful co-existence.

    Gajurel, who was arrested and jailed in India while trying to fly to Germany and drum up international support for the Maoists’ ‘People’s War’, says he has no bitterness towards the Indian government.

    “The circumstances were different then,” the veteran leader says. “The Indian government had good relations with King Gyanendra then and tried to keep Nepal happy. But after the king’s coup (in 2005), India changed its stand towards the royalist government. It stopped military assistance to the royal regime and provided space to us on Indian soil to hold the first meeting with Nepali opposition parties and reach an understanding.”

    When the rebels join the government, they will focus on reviewing Nepal’s international treaties, abrogating or revising the ones that are unequal and detrimental to Nepal’s interests.

    Most of Nepal’s foreign pacts are with its southern neighbour and biggest trade partner India.

    The controversial Indo-Nepal Friendship Treaty of 1950, which says Nepal will consult India while buying arms for its own internal security, seems headed for review, if not downright scrapping.

    India has said it was open to a review of the pact during Indian External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee’s visit to Kathmandu last month.

    Another controversial pact, the Extradition Treaty, will also come under review.
    The treaty was updated last year and Prime Minister Girija Prasad Koirala’s government had agreed to sign it.

    However, at the last moment, the Koirala government, pressured by the Maoists as well as its own allies, put off the inking of the pact without showing any reason.

    Gajurel said the updated treaty would have to be reviewed yet again.

    “At that time, our party was considered to be a terrorist organisation and the pact was drafted accordingly,” he said. “But now things have changed.”

    The Maoists will keep their ideological links with other Maoist organisations abroad, like the Revolutionary International Movement and Coordination Committee of Maoist Parties and Organisations of South Asia but not any working relations, Gajurel said.

    “The ideological relations will continue as long as we are Maoists but it will not hamper state to state relations,” Gajurel said.

    The Maoists have also decided to forgive and forget the cold shoulder given to them by China and the US.

    “In the past, China said we were not Maoists and tarnished the image of their leader Mao Tse Tung by naming ourselves after him,” he said. “China also labelled us anti-government forces. But we are ready to forgive for the sake of forming a democratic republic in Nepal.

    “It is not just our desire but the desire of the people to see a republic in Nepal. We want China too to help us with the process of change.”

    The Maoists are also extending the same tolerance towards their bete noire, the US.

    “The US tried to stop the parties from reaching a pact with us and then tried to prevent us from joining parliament,” Gajurel said.

    “But once there are 73 Maoist members in parliament, people in the US will start re-thinking.”

  40. Read this one as well!!!

    NEPAL: Fears that new constitution fails to address human rights violations
    11 Jan 2007 05:05:28 GMT
    Source: IRIN
    Reuters and AlertNet are not responsible for the content of this article or for any external internet sites. The views expressed are the author’s alone.

    KATMANDU, 10 January (IRIN) – For the past two years, Debi Sunwar has been desperately waiting for justice after the extrajudicial execution of her 15-year old daughter, Maina, who was illegally detained, raped, tortured and killed in February 2004 by the Nepalese Army.

    The case has been documented by Advocacy Forum (AF), a local human rights NGO, which has been pursuing hundreds of cases of impunity in the Himalayan nation and says nobody has been punished for that killing and hundreds of others.

    “Where is the justice for my daughter?” asked Sunwar, who has been campaigning through the local media and activists with support of the NGO to punish her daughter’s killers – but in vain.

    And there are thousands of similar cases, with many people trying to find justice for relatives killed by the security forces and the Maoist rebels during the decade-long armed conflict, which has claimed the lives of more than 14,000 Nepalis, according to AF.

    According to the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) in Nepal and the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), not a single case has been tried in the courts and no one has been punished for such crimes.

    More than 800 cases of extrajudicial executions have been recorded by AF alone over the past five years. Between July 2005 and June 2006, the group documented 86 cases of extrajudicial killings by the security forces and 81 by the Maoists.

    It also recorded cases of rape by the security forces, the anti-Maoist vigilante groups and the Maoists. According to its report, young girls and elderly women had been ‘categorical targets’ of security forces.

    “Neither the government nor the Maoists has shown any interest to investigate and punish the perpetrators,” said Nepal’s prominent human rights lawyer, Mandira Sharma.

    Now fears are growing that such crimes against humanity committed during the period of conflict will never be punished as a new interim constitution, which gives blanket amnesty to those who have violated human rights, comes into force on 15 January.

    In November, the Maoist rebels and interim government of seven national parties signed a historic peace agreement to end the armed conflict. One of the key developments was to frame a new interim constitution as well as manage the weapons and armies of both the People’s Liberation Army of the Maoists and the Nepalese Army of the state.

    Neither the interim government nor the Maoists would comment on the interim constitution or impunity.

    Many families whose children and relatives were victims of extra-judicial killings and brutal executions during the conflict period will fail to get justice due to the new constitution, which will give amnesty to the perpetrators,” explained Sharma.

    “All these years of our risk and efforts to find justice for the victims against these perpetrators will just be in vain,” said Sharma.

    Activists say that their only hope is the visit of the UN’s High Commissioner for Human Rights, Louise Arbour, comes to Nepal on 19 January and they are appealing that Arbour has to address the issue of impunity strongly with both the state and the Maoists.

    nn/sz/mw

    IRIN news

  41. Neil,

    You are not getting my point. You act like the maoists have already taken over. Nepals future is not only for the maoists to decide. I guess you do not know much about multiparty democracy concept.

  42. A typical case of flash flood- in its wake all that stand in its way will be destroyed. This is the begining of end for Multiparty system in Nepal. So much is hyped up, now the basic rationality is there no more. One after another agreements have been reached as if “forced” to perform without any norms of democracy. People like Neil and Bom guys feel vindicated for their ” foresight,” one being in U.S. and one far left gringo (outcast in his own land).

    I feel sorry for Nepal and us Nepali- a simpleton by nature but coerced by threats and Bhauns conniving traits. Speak of exploitation- this is it.

    No matter what or how they justify these actions- it will come and haunt them down. Cannot aspire to build a dream by threading on others- so prepared to reap what you sow.

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