Reactionary General of Nepal Army Bad Mouths Democracy

general dilip shumser rana

No doubt Dilip Shumser Rana (pic) is a living symbol of the reactionary forces in Nepal who is still trying to play against democracy and freedom in the country. This man, a RANA, is also a burning example of how our political leadership failed to bring about reform in the Nepali Army. Offensive it many sound but this man is still the Western Divisional Headquarter (acting) Chief of Nepali Army. And yesterday he gave a disgusting speech full of hatred in a gathering of soldiers in Pokhara (the Western Divisional Headquarters Conference, attended by representatives of major political parties, senior army officials and battalion commanders of different army bases under the Western Divisional Headquarters). Is a fresh Military coup in the offing? Will king appointed generals of the army strike back and kill democracy as the nation is heading towards the election of constituent assembly that will decide the fate of monarchy in the first meeting with a simple majority? Why on earth an Army general gives a 17-page statement that is full of criticism of political leadership and talks about what political leaders allegedly did several years ago? General Rana spit venom against political leadership and democratic period of the post 1990. This general sees no positive happenings in the democratic decade of 1990. He sees no progress in the democratic times. He only sees corruption, bad governance and instability. He finds political parties guilty for the beginning of the Maoist peoples’ war.

Rana Could be Fired

Feb 8: Nepal Army (NA) has recommended to the Ministry of Defence to take action against acting chief of NA’s Western Divisional Headquarters, Dilip SJB Rana. Army spokesperson Brigadier General Anant Thebe informed that the army headquarters has written to the defence ministry to take action against Rana for he was found to have made remarks contrary to the “tradition and policy” of the NA during interrogation.

Rana had been summoned to the NA headquarters on Tuesday to clarify his controversial statement. The NA has recommended to the defence ministry to take action against Rana as he was found guilty after the interrogation. Thebe further said that it’s up to the government to decide the kind of action to be taken against Rana. According to defence ministry sources, Rana could even be dismissed from his post for his controversial remarks.

Today’s Update: House Grills Army Chief Katuwal

Chief of Army Staff (CoAS), Rukmangat Katuwal today recorded his statement before the Interim Legislature- Parliament regarding the controversial remarks made by acting chief of Nepal Army’s (NA) Western Divisional Headquarters Dilip Shumshere Rana on Monday about the possibility of mobilisation of the army to control the Terai unrest. Speaker Subash Nemwang had summoned Katuwal for a parliamentary hearing after the NA’s controversial political statement was publicized yesterday. Earlier today, Rana had also been summoned to the army headquarters for remarks spurred widespread criticism. NA has also stated that these remarks were solely Rana’s own and did not represent the official view of the army. NA spokesperson Brigadier General Ananta Thebe said that Rana could face action if he had spoken anything that went against the army’s policy and position in the media. Thebe further added that NA is under the government and has been operating as instructed by the government and will continue to do so in the future.

Rana also talks about the possibility of Army mobilization in southern Terai area of Nepal where protests are being held for 20th day today demanding proportionate representation in the election and federal system of governance. His analysis: “The time hasn’t come yet to be assured that the country will not plunge into conflict again because of destructive and violent activities in the name of breakaway factions of the Maoist party like Terai Janatantrik Mukti Morcha (JTMM), Terai Mukti Morcha (TMM) and Madhesi Janadhikar Forum (MJF) and possible Maoist actions in future. I want to direct the forces under Western Divisional Headquarters to be highly prepared to make plans and execute them against any unfortunate situation in future.”

“It could be predicted that Nepali Army could be mobilized in Terai to bring the situation to normalcy if the situation of conflict doesn’t get improved and goes out of control of Nepal Police and Armed Police Force. For this the Divisional Headquarter has already requested the Nepal Army headquarter to push the government of Nepal, United Nations and the CPN Maoist to reach an interim agreement to mobilize the army for limited period. That is why I order the 22 Bahini Adda (Number 22 Brigade Headquarters in Butwal) to prepare itself mentally and physically to get mobilized as per the concept of ‘aid to civil authority’.”

Rana has repeated the words “to be highly prepared to make plans and execute them against any unfortunate situation in future” more than twice in the speech. He thinks that Maoists will resort to violence if the election of CA is not held in time or deferred or in case they are dissatisfied with the result. In such case, he says, “the Maoists will repeat the violent activities”. He says, “I request you to get prepared against any such situation.”

Rana’s speech is filthy, dirty, and full of hatred. It talks about undermining the civil capacity to run government and emphasizes on the military might. “Who should be credited for brining Maoists in mainstream? The leadership of legitimate political parties know the answer. But I think there are some obstacles to Nepal Government to give due credit to those institutions and praise their contribution openheartedly as we are seeing the rays of peace…. If you study anti-terrorist history, no where in the world you will see the state and the insurgents signing a peace agreement and restoring peace in such a short time. So if you analyze the situation correctly, the real credit for this must go to the patriotic servants like you and me.”

The biggest blunder of Seven Party Alliance (SPA) was not to touch the institution of army after their victory in the historic April movement. They either sacked or suspended police officials but never dared to take any sort of actions against the generals of the army who were directly involved in suppressing the movement and protecting the autocracy in Nepal. The one who was responsible for suppression was promoted to the top post of the army instead of begin fired.

The need of the moment is the immediate sacking of General Rana, stripping him off the pension and declaring him unsuitable for future services under any offices of the government of Nepal. Beginning of reform within Nepal army must follow immediately. OTHERWISE people are ready to hit the streets and take matters into their own hands. Reactionaries like General Rana must be tamed.


Human rights activists and civil society in Pokhara took out a rally today protesting the remarks of General Dilip Rana. Pic by Prem Nepali

Political leaders in Pokhara, where the speech was delivered in a conference, have described the General’s speech as a conspiracy to push the country into civil war. Kantipur daily has published main parts of the speech in today’s issue. Read the complete speech here.

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107 thoughts on “Reactionary General of Nepal Army Bad Mouths Democracy”

  1. Lets face it – Nepal has minimal chance of turning around. NA would bring back the King if given a chance. Maoists would turn this country into a dictatorial communist state and SPA … we’ve seen enough. And then theres danger of Madhes going the India way. So what do we do in such a quagmire ?? Wish there was an answer but then otherwise it wouldnt be a problem.

    Given the circumstances I think Gen Ranas comments are correct. He espouses deploying military resources in Terai if it came to saving Nepal. Isnt that what NA is for. Bittersweet irony though that Gen contradicts himself (given their history of being Shahs gang) as much as the SPAM do all the time. Nepal is supposed to change but with the same faggots at the helm what can we expect.

    Anyways, the most pragmatic thing to do at this stage is to actually restructure NA and make it loyal to democracy asap while boosting their confidence. In the worst case they are our only hope of resisting Maoist takeover. Restructuring SPA will eventually happen as people’s votes will churn them over a period of time. Till then lets all sit tight.

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  2. If that RANA is trying to be patriotic trying to do his duty and make his unit ready for the unforseen problem that can arise due to this unrest then why the political speech(why does he have to blame the polictical parties)… he should understand his duty and when the order comes follow the order… he is not the commander in chief to give such kind of speech. If the army had solved the maoist problem then we wouldn’t be here. I don’t support the maoist but, majority of us agreed to bring the maoist into the politics in certain circumstance. I agree that the maoist haven’t followed the things they promised but, we have to wait to give it a chance. People can decide when the election happens.
    But, I don’t understand how come the madhesi want number of constituencies where madhesis only run for the post… no where in the world there is such a democracy where one cast can only run for the post… if that is so then, population of ktm is mostly newars then only a newar can run for the post. I don’t know how true this is but, last week in one of the article said that the population of terai is about 49% and the representation is about 40% so, if this govt decides another 9% for the terai then that should be it. If I was born in Namchhe bazar and have a home in terai then I should be able to run from the terai too… if the madhesi can then beat me fairly and squarely. What I am trying to say is that any Nepali should be able to run for the election according to what the constitution says. Constitution should be clear not to discriminate anyone due to its cast, color or religion.

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  3. But for now, there is an immediate need to revive NA by restructuring it and keeping it free from politics. But before that Nepal must be declared a republic … as a precaution tht NA dont steer Nepal Gyane’s way.

    A democratic, restructured NA is out last stand to save Nepal as we cant trust/hope anything from SPAM. But then again … wishful thinking eh?

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  4. I think Bhudai Pandit should shut the fuck up… looks like after the restoration of democracy the SPA did not offer you a position where you could enjoy all the benefits these SPA MPs and so called chamchas are enjoying… you seem to be supporting the Gyane to achieve your wishes.

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  5. This Blog Sucks!
    The writer himself is the known RACIST.

    Look at his writing..”This man, a RANA, “. So what the hell if he is Rana?? Isn’t he allowed to speak just he is Rana.

    What you do?? “United We blog for a demoratic nepal”

    First go and learn what Demoracy is.

    A question for those who slam the Nepal army and support the PLA.

    Do you really think Nepal army is no good and we should replace Nepal army by PLA? If yes then have you guys thought of what it will result in. If No then what you want??

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  6. Nepal army is really good that is why so many Nepalese disappeared in the hands of the so called Nepal Army… now, you may ask what about the maoist… I have already told that I don’t support the maoist. Didn’t we all got fed up with the Maoist atrocities and were willing to forgive if they join the peaceful politics?? I am still hoping the maoist will just slow down slowly… The RANA made the comment so we are talking about this RANA… majority of the RANAs/Shahs can’t do anything on their own so they suck from their anchestorial looting or join the army to loot more… isn’t that the truth

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  7. By the way I am against any form of army… what can a Nepal Army do to its country… just build roads or bridges or their officers houses. Do we need 100,000 army just to that with 20% of the budget. I would hire 100,000 people when needed to build such property. Can the army protect us from India or China in this day and age??? If not then why feed this fat elephant when we have to beg from other countires each year to sustain the budget. Just make police strong for the internal security that should do it.

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  8. PARANOID is the word of the day. Politicians say the army should not be making political statements. Yet, politicians go around making completely irresponsible statements every hour of the day. How about the instance of Prachanda talking about mobilizing the NA and the PLA to quell the Tarai crisis? If I am a thief, what moral ground do I have to teach my son not to steal?

    And the so called journalists use sentences like “This man, a RANA….” Very impartial, indeed! No wonder journalists are targetted whenever the mob turns unruly!

    Just in the last weeks, the politicians have delivered one statement after another contradicting each other and, more ridiculously, themselves. I have a shortlist of those statements in my blog – lovesnepal.blogspot.com.

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  9. These policians are making such comments that is why we are in this stage… I was told once by a political professor that as long the people and the society does not improve then we cannot expect the politicians to be any more better. There are some politician who are so patriotic but, they are out numbered. Democracy is the right path but, PATIENCE first… we cannot expect Nepal to be like America in 20 years…couple of generation must sacrifice first then only our grandchildren may enjoy the fruit… we should forget enjoying the fruit now… meantime we and our children have to go cross a lot of hurdles but, violence is not the answer… we are more and more leaning towards violence for each and every solution.

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  10. Look no one is saying the army should take over or Gyanendra should take over again. But I am frankly getting sick and tired of people who keep blaming ‘reactionary’ forces for everything that goes wrong in Nepal. You all need to get over this palace conspiracy theory BS. Furthermore, people need to stop brining up the caste issue… man the British used to divide and rule but they were never able to invade Thailand because the Thais could not be divided. We Nepalese are so easily exploited… that’s why India can play around in our internal affairs so easily. The Madeshi problem is a serious issue. I completely sympathize with their cause although I can’t condone their violence. But what suprises me is the way in which the SPAM have acted and treated this issue. It’s shameful and pathetic. But there is no mention of that by our great journalists…
    Look at the state Nepal is in. There are constant zulouses, bhands, the security in the city is practically none existent etc. Maybe we need to work at resolving these issues but oh no let’s just gear all our attention to the remarks of this Dilip Rana.

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  11. Nepali Blogger,

    Np wonder you support your father-in-law. By the way how is everything at home? Planning to sale property and settle down in Bangalore? Do not ask me how do I know this, I just know

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  12. agree with bhudai….i too sympethize the madhesis …look at them in capital, treated as dogs, police pick fruits from their basket and they keep smiling,brats fell their cycle and they cannot defend themselves,i just remembered a saying among newars when they see madhesis “mana makhu matsya kha”(not a human but a madhise) , people readily pay the so called fixed prices of clothes and shoes they buy from brand outlets and mall which you can get at half the price if u go bargain in bankok just coz the shopkeepers need to pay their rents and the same people spill the frustration of not being able to bargain there by crushing the poor madhesis’s below marginal profit by bargaining for mere 5 rupees….noticing this is soo easy in capital which happens every minute…..but the way this SPAM is protesting it is wrong….why so…coz the leaders of SMAP are not truely concerned about madhesis….believe me they are not….they are selfish just like present sansads…all they want out of this violence is to go to capital and enjoy the perks of sansads…they will do nothing to uplift the sorry state of madhesis…mark my word madhesis this is a forecast…if i am proved wrong i’ll be geneuinly happy.

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  13. Frankly, this sort of reporting is why journalists here are regarding as scum. This general being a rana or not has nothing to do with ehat he said. What he said is quite true. The army may have to be deployed if the situation cannot be addressed by the parties, and the parties have not yet addressed the situation. Whether or not an army man should say these things is up for debate, but then he was addressing his armymen. Is it better to let your men and women know what could happen or is it better to keep quiet and when it happens it happens all of a sudden without even the army soldiers knowing.

    After so long of hereing bull crap coming out of politicians mouths and no one adhering to any agreements except the army who have behaved very well, I don’t know why anyone should make a huge hue and cry about a general telling it like it is.

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  14. Let me add if you scumbags don’t or don’t have the ball$ to raise a hue and cry when maoists leaders say we will mobilise the PLA and go for another andolan, and capture booths, why the hell are you attacking generals who are just telling it like it is?

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  15. Let me site an example for this SOB Wagle and gang – I am sure if generals in the U.S. government spoke about the Iraq war being a bad idea – tha’s okay ri9ght, but general’s talking about realities is reactionary. You SOB you’re day will come! General’s are’nt robots, they have to speak their mind, I don’t believe in dumb and numb soldiers. They have to follow government orders, period, but by god they should speak their minds and give advice like everybody else. If we have to listen t0 thugs and murderers then why the f4ck not generals?

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  16. This Kantipur and their dogs like this blog is funded fully by Indians. They do not want to see us living in peace. They want a weak Nepal so they can push all the buttons. I salute this gentleman for letting us know the ground realities. If some of you want to shove your head in the sand while the Indian govt. fuc$s your behind so be it. I choose otherwise. Speak on general, because the thugs and crooks and murderers in parliment will sell us out. By the way, I would refrain from placing this general in the same sentence as Gyanendra (another dissapointment). This is truly an officer and gentlemen, and yes UWB racism means racism againsts Rana’s as well, the sooner you get it straight the closer you will be to understanding democracy, a term you obviously use – but cluelessly.

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  17. “No doubt Dilip Shumser Rana (pic) is a living symbol of the reactionary forces in Nepal who is still trying to play against democracy and freedom in the country. This man, a RANA, is also a burning example of how our political leadership failed to bring about reform in the Nepali Army.”

    I just had to read the first para of UWB to understand that the rest of the article would be as loaded and ridiculous as many of the pieces we see in this blog.

    Hell do we start articles on say Girija and Prachanda as “blah,blah and this man a CHOR BRAHMIN…” I mean what sort of a racist sicko would attempt to write something like that?

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  18. Let us just see some of the key issues raised by the general, albeit edited to suite UWB’s agenda but let’s see:

    1.He find’s the political parties responsible for the people’s war – Well, if the parties right at the start held sensible talks instead of blowing the maoists off when they were a lot smaller in number, we could have had peace right from the beginning – The general is correct.

    2. Corruption, bad governance and instability – 100% correct, even ask the donors they will agree.

    3. Possibility of army mobilisation in the Terai – he is correct again. Forget the army, the naoists have talked openly of the possibility of even the PLA mobilisation in the Terai – I did’nt hear much of a ruccus from UWB then? Did anyone?

    4. He thinks the maoists will resort to violence if the CA elections is not held on time – well the maoists have themselves openly threatened as such. So he is 100% correct.

    UWB what’s going on – your agenda is getting more and more sinister.

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  19. Dilip Shumser Rana is a RANA and I think UWB did right by emphasizing on that word because RANAs in Nepali context are different than other surnames. RANAs were in power, enjoying hereditary flow of power from a brother to another, and sucked this nation for more than a century. Why Ranas are in high profile positions even in today’s Nepal? Because their forefathers exploited Nepali janata and became so much powerful and rich that they are still in influential positions. Why there are majority of Ranas and Shahs Generals and their bootlickers in Nepali Army? YES, there are some exceptions, some Ranas have played very important role in democratic movement and some Ranas are very much democratic in nature but the likes of Dilip Rana are from that category that looks for chances to exploit the situation and bring back the system of autocracy.

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  20. Surai,

    you’re just another racist SOB. Subharna Shumshere was also a RANA and the founder and financer of the congress party which brought the Rana regime down. So go take a hike.

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  21. Surai,

    You say the name is important and then contradict yourself. I think we have good and bad in all castes and ethnicities of people, let’s not get into it otherwise we will again end up Brahmin bashing.

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  22. 1.He find’s the political parties responsible for the people’s war – Well, if the parties right at the start held sensible talks instead of blowing the maoists off when they were a lot smaller in number, we could have had peace right from the beginning – The general is correct.

    >>>Nepal was slowly heading toward economic progress despite all hitches in running government. Nepal was new to parliament exercises but it was doing great job by liberalizing economy and brining out changes in education, health and communication sector. It was doing great in expanding road network. The 30-year-old autocracy of monarchy and more than a decade long instability in the late 50 and century old super autocratic family rule of Rana had kept Nepal away from the world and was economically backward. The nation was in such a mess that it would have taken more than a decade to bring it into normalcy but peoples’ expectations were high and Maoists exploited that. I see no fault in democratic political leaders and their handling of the situation. Yes, it would be a wishful thinking that leaders should have taken Maoist seriously when they were struggling to enter Singha Durbar to hand over their list of demands but the the war was inevitable as the expectations were high.

    2. Corruption, bad governance and instability – 100% correct, even ask the donors they will agree.

    >>> Corruption, bad governance and instability compared to the level in kings and Rana’s rule before democracy was far worse and democratic system of governance had dramatically lessened the level of corruption. Yes, people knew each and every cases of corruption and bad governance because there were free media in democratic period but autocratic Shah and Rana rulers suppressed the media and didn’t allow free and fair reporting. Otherwise, the corruption and nepotism and bad governance in Shah and Rana rule will overshadow whatever happened in democratic times. So before giving any lecture on corruption and bad governance in democratic period, think about what was the situation before democracy.

    3. Possibility of army mobilisation in the Terai – he is correct again. Forget the army, the naoists have talked openly of the possibility of even the PLA mobilisation in the Terai – I did’nt hear much of a ruccus from UWB then? Did anyone?

    >>> Army is NOT the origination in Democracy to decide whether it should be mobilized against anyone or not. Do you have any idea about civilian supremacy? Civilians take the decisions in democracy and military implements. Someone talks about Generals in US Army talking abut Iraq or whatever openly. Yes, but remember this: generals in US are fired or called back instantly by the civilian leadership in Pentagon (and I can give you several examples in Iraq case where generals were either removed from their duty or called back just because they spoke against the line of civilian leadership in Pentagon. Do some research before writing anything that comes to your mind.) Statements by a Nepal Army general and Maoist leader can’t be put in same level. Maoists are political bunch of folks who are here to do politics. They can speak anything they like but this general is PAID by Nepali people to look after his organization, not to give any speech.
    Look how shamelessly he talks that he should get the credit of brining Maoist into mainstream. While doing so he shamefully forgets he did nothing in his decade-long career other than eating sarkari dal bhat. What did he do in his career other than taking salary and eating dal bhat? Even after the Army was mobilized against Maoists, soldiers fought, the Generals didn’t. We saw their strategy failed at several occasions. How easily be blames on media for not supporting their childish counter insurgency plans when they had no iota of idea on how to fight Maoists.

    4. He thinks the maoists will resort to violence if the CA elections is not held on time – well the maoists have themselves openly threatened as such. So he is 100% correct.

    >>>Don’t assume things, okay? Hippocrites like Rana used to think that they would finish the Maoists in a day if they had to fight. And you know the Maoists only got stronger after the army mobilization. They never believed that Maoists would come to talks table and we could come this far in terms of establishing peace in Nepal. Of course, we must held the election of CA in time. If that is not held in time (which pigs of Gyanendra like you would very much like to see) then not only Maoists but whole people of Nepal come to the streets (remember April?) and wipe out monarchy.

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  23. Hey Say,

    You only say or read also? Did you see this line in my comment?

    “YES, there are some exceptions, some Ranas have played very important role in democratic movement and some Ranas are very much democratic in nature..”

    Subarna was in my mind while I wrote that line. So time for you take a hike.

    And D,

    Read my comment again and find that line I refered to Say.

    And forget Ranas were the ones who exploited this country and Nepali people for over a century. And their legacy still continues even after more than 50 years of their rule was dismantled by peoples’ revolution.

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  24. When the Mobs in Biratnagar, use petrol bombs and bow & arrows to shoot down the police, The general is right, use the Nepal Army.
    Where are the dollar paid INGO & NGO, when private property is being set ablaze by the mob. I think they are just in a seminar in a 5 star hotel saying that the police should not use guns at the mobs.
    These INGO & NGO should be banned from Nepal and the army must immediately be moved to Biratnagar.

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  25. UWB, you’ve got your priorities wrong. If you are truly with the people than you should be campaigning for the ouster of that lame duck maoist stooge of a Home Minister Sitaula. It’s people like him who are the real enemy of the people…the slimy maggot.

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  26. Only hope we Nepalese have are the political parties who were accused of corruption during the period 1990-2002. Even though, they were corrupt, they were for democracy which is the most important thing. King and Maoists are not democratic.So only chance for us is the implementation of CPA. So every Nepali should work for the prompt execution of CPA. Madhesis should not only press their demands when the Government is weak. I think India also is behind it when we are accusing only the Palace. I think PM Girija should talk with India about it before acceding to the madhesis demands. I do not believe in federal structure of any sort because if we give a autonomous structure to Terai, they will eventually side with India and merge with them. I think there is no question of acceeding to this demand at this stage.

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  27. bIJJU
    You raise some good points. But before you get too excited let me point out some issues with your post.
    I agree that there was progress on several fronts during the post 1990 era. But I don’t agree with your statement “I see no fault in democratic political leaders and their handling of the situation.” Let’s see we had 13 different governments in 12 years, contant bhands and infighting, extream high levels of curruption and bad governance. Sure I agree that it takes time for a democratic system to function properly. But that doesn’t mean you condone what the post 1990 leaders did. Furthermore, they did absolutely nothing to correct the Bhun,chettri,newar dominance. It was almsost as if we exchanged one monarch for 3 monarchs (Girija, mukune, deuba). Again it takes time I understnad but please don’t talk like a Girija ko chumpcha by saying they did nothing wrong. We had one general eletion in like 10 years.

    “whole people of Nepal come to the streets (remember April?)”
    Errr. I don’t think so. The whole Nepal did not come out and if the Maoists were not involved the SPA would still be protesting with thier hired protestors and no one would be paying any attention to them. So cut that crap. What G was wrong – that’s a different story but don’t twist things like our boy Wagle here.

    There are other points I don’t agree with as well but I don’t have time right now. Chew of this and we will continue.

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  28. “Let’s see we had 13 different governments in 12 years, contant bhands and infighting, extream high levels of curruption and bad governance.”

    >>>The real problem is with our understanding and our high expectations from democracy and political leaders. We expected too much as if democracy was a jadu ko chhadi and it would bring overnight changes and improve our situation. I see no problem with 13 different governments in 12 years (look at Italy) but the problem was that those governments failed to publicize their good works and, unfortunate for the system, bad works overshadowed the progress made by the country at that period.

    Don’t try to act innocent that we were learning, learning to practice democracy. Even in that process of learning, we kept progressing. Why not think from this angle Budhai? Why only negative feeling towards democratic leadership? The only major mistake was not to address the Maoist problem in time but one thing is sure the Maoist or any war for that matter was inevitable given the social situation at that time. People were not feeling empowered and they were not able to speak out even after democracy was restored. Now go to villages and see how much they are aware about their rights.

    Coming back to the original point, I think democracy was in right track. Economy was okay (though it wasn’t as per our expectation). There is no point in blaming democracy or leadership for whatever that went wrong in the 90s. We were learning and we do mistakes while learning. The most important thing is where we were heading. And, you also know, we were heading in right direction.

    “The whole Nepal did not come out and if the Maoists were not involved the SPA would still be protesting”

    >>> Now don’t try to blatantly underestimate the peoples’ power, boy. I didn’t mean 26 million people came on the street but whatever happened in April easily qualifies to be deemed for a perfect revolution. And whatever was the expression of April Revolution perfectly suits to be branded as the voice of Nepal. The movement was clearly against monarchy and people opposing the autocracy came together. Now don’t give the childish excuse like ‘if the Maoists were not involved..” Do you mean to say that all those people, even if they were Maoist supporters, were not Nepali people?

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  29. Who is this Kirat kid demanding the ouster of Home Minister Sitaula?

    Why should he resign re? Just because he worked against the interest of the palace and pushed forward the peace process, played crucial role in brining the Maoists into main stream and made sure that Maoists didn’t go back to jungle from the peace table?

    Take these words kid, if there was any home minister who would act as per the interests of palace, we wouldn’t have seen a day when Maoists guerillas handover their weapons to UN. We would still be fighting. So instead of going after Sitaula, think about how you can help him and contribute in the peace process.

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  30. Kathe Said:

    Nepali Blogger,
    Np wonder you support your father-in-law. By the way how is everything at home? Planning to sale property and settle down in Bangalore? Do not ask me how do I know this, I just know

    How would I dare ask you how you know, oh great one? You know, just like Prachanda knows, Girija knows, King G knows, and everybody in Nepal knows. We all know. That’s our problem. We think we know it all, yet we don’t know how to think. And, we know what others are thinking. GREAT!

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  31. Its impossible to have CA election in June when 75% of Nepalese are not sure what it exactly means or how to go about it. Immediate need of the hour is to aggressively educate the masses on this. Side by side structure of CA must be decided asap. We facing so much probs coz of transition and to make the best of change, we must educate all.

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  32. Letter to my brave Great Great Grandson, Dilip Shumser Rana (Kunwar)

    I’m your beloved Great Great Great Grandfather, Jange from the heaven.
    Look my son, you’re great, because you spoke up the reality of the root cause of the current situation of the country which nobody dare to speak up as you did.

    Now, some people are critical and jealous and want to hang you, which is no good for me. One thing you gotta understand that SANCHOO KURA NEPAL MA TEEK DAINA KINAKI YO SATI LE SHRAP DIYAKO DESH HO.
    Anyway, your dady, Basante couldn’t do anything for the country, but I’m quite hopeful that you’ll shed blood to save Nepal from SPA, Maoists and Madhise Dankas.
    To protect this country, if necessary, do not hesitate to follow my footstep to execute another KOOT PARBA. We are KUNBAR Chhetriya (unfortunately you guys changed your surname from Kunbar to Rana). Mind it, we are always brave. Therefore, Nepal needs us, especially our bravery to protect and unify this nation again. Believe me, if you don’t do it, nobody will do anything to save Nepal. Everybody is after power grab in the name of democracy, especially Brahmins are always thirsty for power.
    Be careful with the Brahmins. Secondly, in your army, there are some Brahmins in the top job. They may work for Girija and Prachande to hang you. Be careful my boy.
    Give my love to your brothers and sisters, and also to the rest of Kunwar (Rana) families.
    If you need my help to do another Kootparba, I can be available for you form the heaven.
    Take care Puttra!
    Late Pradhan Manttri, JB Kunbar (Rana)

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  33. Mr. Bijju:
    I am trying very hard not to get personal but I think it would do you some good to get off your congressi payroll and rexamine your assertions.
    Our expectation was too high of a democratic system? This has to be about the most pathetic excuse I have heard. Democracy is good. The 1990 revolution was necessary. But at the same time the leaders who came there after were a bunch of monkeys who fcuked everything up. Let’s get that clear. You seem to be somehow justifying all the curruption and bad governance by saying our expectation was too high or asking us to compare it with post 1990 era. Are you fcuking kidding me? Sure there was alot of curruption during the Panchayat era but that doesn’t JUSTIFY the curruption your beloved Girija Babu and that evil spawn of his Sujata Koirala did. Our expectation was too high? What was the expectation? A peaceful Nepal where people had access to education, health care, economic advancement and social upliftment. I agree there was a little progress in terms of empowering VDC, developing a media sector. But get it into your congressi thick skull that most of the development was not a result of political leadership or the willingness of our leaders to develop the nation. Our leaders were SHAMELESSLY fighting like a bunch of hungry monkeys at Pasupathinath who fight over a coconut to see who would become prime minister. They never cared about the nation or its people. It was all about being the prime minister or how many of their people they could get government or private sector jobs. I have a sneeking suspicion that you must be a beneficiary of that policy so you have such a skewed view of reality.

    Haha. After the Feb 1st move the SPA gave Gyanendra several ultimatiums all of which G ignored and there was not a damn thing they could do about it. It was one of the most pathetic sights! The SPA with their handful of supporters (who they had to promise free food and money to come out on the streets) protesting. The average Nepali was celebrating! What fcuking difference did it make to the average Nepali that there was no democracy? You think the average Taxi driver, street vendor, business gave a sh*t? No in fact most of them were glad that the bhands had stopped and they could continue with their regular life.
    After the Maoist stepped in they coerced people to come out to the streets and the agitation gained momemtum. Why do you think the SPA sit around now holding their dicks with one hand and their other thumb up their ass and listen to everything Prachanda says?
    What G did was wrong. But it also showed just how little progress and how little difference democracy had made to the average people. So get off your congressi high horse and wake up. And don’t call me boy!

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  34. HouseKeeper-Sitaula is the spineless idiot who as Home Minister can’t even bring the Terai unrest under control after more than two weeks. Anyone can see that it’s basically a law and order problem. That idiot can’t even provide security to bring essentials fuel to the valley. Maoists go about doing whatever they like violating all agreements and democratic norms and Sitaula turns a blind eye-ostrich like.

    Who’s talking about the palace? Sitaula brought the Maoist into the peace agreement? When you are giving into almost all the demands made by the Maoists what’s the big deal? Such low standards HK.

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  35. Bijju,

    Don’t compare apples and oranges. He is still correct. We’re not trying to compare the bad and the worse. He is just saying it like it is. Why do people have to always resort to comparisons in the lines of – “but compared to Genghis Khan blah blah blah….?” I agree that the economy would have taken off if the maoists did not start their peoples war, but then we are not talking about the economy, we are talking about why the government did not take the maoists to heart then so that the economy could have stayed it’s course. Problem solved then and there.

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  36. Bijju,

    The leaders have now come to their senses, hopefully things quieten down in the Terai. But 25 people have lost their lives. This could have been prevented. Just as 13000 people losing their lives could have been prevented back then in the 1990’s. Maybe the General’s remarks did strike a chord which made the leaders rush to agree to the demands in the Terai. How come these things are agreed on so soon after the General’s realistic remarks? What was the SAPM doing when the Terai burned for the last 3 weeks? The only reactionaries as opposed to visionaries I see are the SPAM I’m afraid. And yes, Sitaula should have resigned. When the whole terai was calling for this interim Home Minister’s resignation he thought that his individual concerns are greater then that of 50% of our populations. What a shame.

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  37. Further,
    I would like to thank the general for sacrificing his career for telling it like it is and pressurising the SPAM to act fast on the genuine demands of the Nepali people of the Terai. I salute him. I wonder if any of our polical leaders have the same guts to sacrifice their entire careers for the greater good ???? I doubt it.

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  38. Bijju,

    “Don’t assume things, okay? Hippocrites like Rana used to think that they would finish the Maoists in a day if they had to fight”.

    I think you’re memory fails you just like your political masters. It was more the likes of Khum Bahadur Khadga, Deuba and Girija whp thought they could finish the maoists with their armed police force in a week or so. Please don’t try to pull a fasr one, we all were very much here and history has a funny way of getting recorded. Further, GPK always wanted to involve the army while the army wanted to keep away. Only after the death of Birendra did GPK have his way.

    You write long and hard, but you tend to stray way off the topic. I think D said it – let’s not talk of Genghis Khan days when we are talking about WTO, the 21st century etc. etc. Or did Genghis have a mobile phone as well?

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  39. Bijju,

    “Don’t assume things, okay? Hippocrites like Rana used to think that they would finish the Maoists in a day if they had to fight”.

    I think you’re memory fails you just like your political masters. It was more the likes of Khum Bahadur Khadga, Deuba and Girija whp thought they could finish the maoists with their armed police force in a week or so. Please don’t try to pull a fasr one, we all were very much here and history has a funny way of getting recorded. Further, GPK always wanted to involve the army while the army wanted to keep away. Only after the death of Birendra did GPK have his way.

    You write long and hard, but you tend to stray way off the topic. I think D said it – let’s not talk of Genghis Khan days when we are in the days of WTO, the 21st century etc. etc. Or did Genghis have a mobile phone as well?

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  40. Even after MRJF has suspended its “revolt” for 10 days, right now “madeshi” people are setting fire to “pahadi” houses in Biratnagar-Kathari.
    So where does the key to this agatitation lies-maybe with some criminals.
    The General is right, even after the demands have been met, the violence is not going down, so the NEPAL ARMY must be used.

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  41. Excatly Scoop. Wasn’t it that Monkey Girija and Mukune who authorized opeation Kilo Seirra? What a disaster! The Maoist insurgency really accelerated after that! I don’t like Royalist morons who think the King needs to take over again but at the same time I cannot stand these Congressi Chumpchas!

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  42. Gyanendra too much depended on Tantrism and Pooja. He did not think in the modern way.He liked the advice of Bharat keshar, Prazwal,Sharad chandra and T Giri.

    Maoists could come to the stage because of India clandestinely helping them. And King was also going in the steep. Bhir Khojne Gai lai Ram Ram Bhanna sakinchha, Kaandh thapna sakinna.

    If King had talked with the political parties as every nation and everybody was suggesting, he could have saved his Narayan hity and his property and jewelleries. Actually he gambled for more power and he lost all.

    Now Girija may lose because India is behind Madhesi agitation. Bharat keshar also spent some money. They have grand design of disrupting the CA elections.

    Young educated people should join the politics and stand for the elections for the CA. Only after that development of the country is assured.

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  43. Only the non wrong doers are punished in Nepal. Rhino poachers are set free. Corrupt are made ministers and prime ministers. Biggest loan defaulters are given more loan. Maoists activists are taken as human rights activists. Murderers are made MPs. If some one is punished in Nepal then he or she must be innocent.

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