Very much unlike the interview of Prachanda which expressed doubts even in the occuring of the Summit Talks, both the SPA and Maoists have expressed hope of its success. At the end of the meeting which lasted for around 9 hours the two sides released a press release. “The draft of the interim constitution was presented before the top leaders of the seven parties and the Maoists at the meeting today,” the release states.
It further adds”At the meeting, issues like interim constitution, election of constituent assembly, implementation of past agreements, arms management, relief to conflict-victims, socio-economic transformation and restructuring of the state were discussed in a cordial atmosphere.”
It concludes stating that the discussion was positive with the signatures of government talks coordinator Krishna Prasad Sitaula and Maoist talks coordinator Krishna Bahadur Mahara. The talks will resume on Oct 10,2006. However with the no concrete agreements in issues like arms management little can be said of outcome of the talks.
The reporting of the Summit talks as published in Ekantipur
By SURESH NATH NEUPANE
KATHMANDU, Oct 8 – The second round of high-level talks between the seven-party alliance (SPA) and the Maoist rebels ended inconclusively Sunday with both sides agreeing to resume talks on Tuesday “to finalize the contentious political issues.”
The leaders of both sides said that they were close to a common agreement which would possibly be reached in the next session.In the first day of the summit talks that lasted for nearly nine hours today, the top brass leaders of the SPA and the Maoists discussed the draft of the interim constitution submitted by the government and rebel talks teams but did not reach any formal agreement on any issues.
Fresh talks between the two sides will resume on Tuesday as they could not arrive at a consensus on the key contentious issues including the position of the monarch, interim legislature, and government, among others.
Leaders of both sides have, however, expressed satisfaction over today’s talks saying they were held in a cordial atmosphere.
Member of the government talks team and Minister for Tourism, Culture and Civil Aviation Pradeep Gyawali said that he was hopeful that Tuesday’s meeting will be fruitful in reaching agreements on all the issues.
He said that today’s talks were close to a consensus and that all differences between the SPA and Maoists would be sorted out by the next meeting.
“We (the SPA and Maoists), during the meeting today, entered into the major political agendas but did not finalize any of the issues that have remained incomplete in the draft interim constitution,” said Gyawali.
Talking to eKantipur over the phone, Maoists’ second-in-command and a member of the 10-member high-level rebel talks team Dr. Baburam Bhattarai said today’s talks focused on finalizing the incomplete draft interim statute, modalities of the constituent assembly elections, arms management of both the state and the Maoists, and the socio-cultural restructuring of the state.
“We (the Maoists) have stressed on the package deal, which includes the key political agendas including the future of the monarchy, interim government and arms management issues, among others, with the seven parties’ government,” said Bhattarai, adding, “We are hopeful the next meeting will finalize all these issues and the talks will be meaningful in achieving a political way out.”
According to a an earlier statement issued by both talks teams today, the meeting concentrated on finalising the agendas such as interim constitution, interim legislature, modalities of arms management and future of the monarchy, assistance to the victims of the conflict, socio-economic restructuring of the state, among others.
“The talks are moving ahead positively,” said the statement signed by the coordinators of the government and rebels talks team, Krishna Prasad Sitaula and Krishna Bahadur Mahara respectively.
The meeting also discussed the issue of finalising the dates for the constituent assembly elections.
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67 responses to “Baluwatar Talks, high hopes”
Even the Maoist are for ceremonial king now. I feel vindicated
There will be ceremonial king don’t worry Bhundai pandit…
We have to have a referendum on many issues. I don’t think any of these leaders or parties can claim to represent most of us. It is like choosing between the bad, worse and the worst. How can we just sit around like school children and allow a dozen corrupt,power grabbing, murderous, incompetent so called leaders to decide for 30 million Nepalis (includes the millions who don’t have citizenships)?
yo yo Bhusadike,
You must be feeling hellish as SPA and Maoists are coming to agreement
What agreement?
dont feel vindicated pandit. its only temporary measure, till the election of constituent assembly. mark my words, gyane will be in jail and nepal will be a republic.
Don’t take any hope until there are Maoist terrorists are strong. Eliminate maoism, terrorism from Nepal, only then expect for peace
KP, you’re exactly right. The fate of Nepal must be in the hands of people elected with particular mandate through People’s General Assembly. We must go in the direction of self organization, decentralized, without any leaders who are supposed to represent us. In other terms, to develop a system without hierarchy, more representative. An example of this system is what happen in Oaxaca, a state of Mexico. Infos at http://nyc.indymedia.org/or/2006/10/76995.html
Anyway, it’s sounds quite good that peace will continue.
An agreement is still 50/50 chances away. Even if there is an agreement I still see plenty of worries ahead. Past it’s sell by date issues like the monarchy is the only things that seem to be on the SPAM agenda. Arms laying down is a must, but then arms can be picked up again in the future. What are the SPAM policies for development and poverty alleviation, industrialisation and general economic growth? I have’nt heard anything on this. What is the point settling issues and then just patting each other on the back and going on? Besides silly notions like nationalising personal property or ceilings, which is not that much anyways, considering the government of Nepal actually already own 80% of the total land area of Nepal. Why does’nt the government distribute some of the vast and unutilised land the government owns to the landless instead of talking about the 50 bighas extra land this or that fellow has why don’t they begin at home and talk about the millions of underutilised extra the government has and what they intend to do with it?
Just Prachanda talking with Girija may solve their two parties problems, but I guess you can say they may have solved their personal problems, but how about the nation’s problems?
After a long time, thay are talking it is good sign but I am not that optimistic about it particular handing over arms by the Maoists. They are stupides fellows in this era of 21st Century to embrace deadly ideology of Maoism. Mao is the person who ordered the killings of highest number of people on earth. He killed 70 Million people, which is bigger than the figure of both World Wars and other wars. Now you can understand what is it if it is really Maoism ? or invented by RAW of India by putting Prachanda and Baburam in their payroll.
Third line: stupidest…most stupid fellas
dont count the chickens before they r hatched…….
no one knows…who has what up his sleeve or arse,,,,,
payre: how could you misspel your own name/adj?
I understand that the Maoists are under quite a lot of pressure to make a proper settlement (facing saving one). I think the senior leadership is now aware that like every movement history has witnessed i.e. the Sandinistas, Shining Path, the Naxalites in India in the 70s momentum is difficult to maintain over long periods. Settle now and they may get a good bargain, later they may get nothing.
Anyway hope things work out and that both sides show enough flexibility to make it work.
any good bargain(to maoist terrorist) is bad for the country. only well-wisher can think of it.
Why don’t you bless Baluwatar summit? Maoists will get nothing but just face saving. That is more than enough for the time being. They brought a lot of change in this country. They started the end of feudalism, an end of an epoch. In the best case, Shah dynasty will last another decade, not more than that and along with it, will come down feudalistic order. Then may come chaos, disorder but that is essential and unavoidable. Just wish it to be very short.Peace will come only then.
Human are selfish themself. Think positive guys we need peace that is the heart of democracy otherwise democracy will get mad.
Corruption is HIV virus for the development in our country. Our country is in the 12th position among the poorest countries in this world.
jai corruption free Nepal and Law orientated Nepali people.
Hey whoever copied my name and posted that comment… get a life!
Did you go through the article by Surya dev in Nepalbews.com ? It is marvellous. Our leaders are Napunksaks. Thay must assert their place otherwise they are doomed to disappear from the political scene.Communists must be wiped out from the world.
Hopefully these talks will break the stalemate.
NC should take stance on sepearting maoist arms from PLA, otherwise they should be ready to merge both NA and PLA then only finalise the CA… the logic of maoist support nowhere looking at the peaceful Janaandolan-1 and Janaandolan-2…The bold decision of NC help themselves in their existance in politics otherwise they will be out of seen…NC will not be supported by communist democratic front also in future…
Communists are trying to blackmail Nepali Congress. GP Koirala must take stance to continue monarchy and save Nepal from Communists’ conspiracy.
Summit is taking place at place called Baluwa Tar. The fate of the summit is the same. Talk will sink without sound for there will be no substance to it to give it a hold. Mostly they will say about Monarchy and put the real issue of arms management to back burner,and thats that. The cycle will continue, first by blaming each other, second by acting professional by committing for more talks, and third by being blindsighted by the maoist” brazen” act of take over(god forbid)
Hi all
what is we hope from all parties from Nepal??
Nepal Gov must clear it, what will be future of King Gyanendra??i think he is most of the Biggest resistance for Peace process and development of Nepal
Today also they could not do it. We have to wait untill Thursday. And Thusrsday also they say it is Saturday. They will go like that. They are trying to betray the Nepalese people so that Maoists can loot, rape and kill more people in the meantime. NAPUNKSAKS.
How much money they might had spent in lunch, breakfast and dinner for so many meetings??? just a joke….
pyarelal and co. you’re sexist phychopath. you should immediately got to see a doctor. but i’m afraid even the doctor won’t help you much.
perhaps sagarmatha works in a resturant as waiter who can’t think of anything other than who spents how much and the tips, if he get or not.
Well this is one legitimate expense among the thousands of uselss crap they spend money on.
I get the feeling that some of the posters want the peace talks to fail. That’s really sad.
kirat: those who have hitherto been ruling–illegimately, of course–are bound to loose most, when the peaceprocess materializes. so its natural that you find their ‘audaha’ or ‘chatpati’ spilled in these sites. the viruses are trying to infect but nothing gonna work. your days are over bugs….
Hey all,
How can maoist be included in the government with guns in their hand? First they used to terrorise the villagers in remote now they will terrorise the parliament and take over the country and make it next Afganisthan.
If maoist are totally commited to peace then the first thing they should have done is the management of arms, but they want that to be done at last. How can one have summit talks in a round table with a gun on their side?
Beware Nepali people maoist and SPA are deceiving us.
Only solution that I see, kill em all in the summit meetings only if they don;t agree to arms management and declare Balwatar national monument which ended the maoist atrocities.
well you moron ‘mero desh’ you’ve got to see a veterinary doctor. pashu-buddi. hanne marne bahek kehi chha tyo dimagma?
nepali people are not swanth like you, otherwise they wouldn’t have come to street in april.
What happened to most of my fellow citizens? Either they are cynic or they are fatalist.
Where is HOPE, CONSTRUCTIVISM? Have you guys erased all such things from your dictionary?
People look for silver lining in dark clouds, here our fellows are looking only for dark patches in the whole blue sky.
come on we’ve got to change it! for good.
My friends,
What happened when talks took place before? It failed and all Nepali suffered. Do you think solutions will come out in this peace talk especially when maoist are not dis arming themselves before election?
If solution had to come then it would have come by Sunday or by Tuesday, why is it going on further? They will agian set another date for discussion. If they really cared about peace decision would have come by Sunday.
I also want a peaceful country and also renounce voilence butI have seen enough “NATAK” from maoist and SPA.
Let me ask everyone : “If there is election with arms in maoist hand and maoist asking people with utmost politeness WHOM DO YOU WANT TO VOTE? ” Is that fair election? I don’t think so. SO kill em’ all or put them behind bars leaders like prachanda, baburam, badal n co. Once their leadership gone their army has no one to lead and we cna manage them, “I am not saying to kill them” and solve the problem peacefully.
I respect comments from Kaji but understand the gravity of reality.
Further more,
“JASTAI LAI TASTAI DHIDO NISTAI”. Deal with people accordingly. I want to ask one question to all “CAN ANYONE EXPECT PEACE WITH GUNS WITH PEOPLE?” Kaji are you or the SPA or every one going to take responsibility that maoist will give up arms after they have been included in government?
Otherwise communist will regain the power and Nepal will be next combodia with POLPOT or afganisthan with taliban.
Maoist are just hiding the arms managament with the question of monarchy. We can anytime throw the king out and establish democratic republic. Thats not the main topic. The main topic is maoist giving up voilenceand establishing long lasting peace. Fate of monarchy will be very easy after that. We can kick Gyane anytime.
When police men catch a killer first they take away his gun then question him. Has anyone seen police taking to a killer with gun in his hand?NO. I don’t think so anyone has either.
Well same thing applies in the case to our country also.
Further we all know one saying;
“JASTA LAI TYASTAI DHIDO LAI NISTAI” and “IRON CUTS IRON” Well you got to treat people accordingly.
Maoist are hiding the issue of arms management with the issue of fate of monarchy. Thats not the main issue here. We can throw Gyane anytime and have democratic republic. The main issue here is the establishment of long lastin peace in the country. Once we have long lasting peace we can think progressively in positive manner.
One analogy : When police men capture a killer they first take away his gun and then talk with him. Has anyone seen police officer taking with killer with gun in his hand? NO. There is every chance that the killer will use it.
Finally I don’t want Nepal to end up like afghanisthan or combodia with POLPOT who killed thousands after taking to power.
Jai Nepal
gyaanendre laai darbaar hatyaa kaanDa ko muddaa maa adaalat maa ubhyaaunu parchha
At this stage, we can not do much except to hope that something positive will come out from this process of dialogue. Maoist and Seven party must understand the need of nation and move ahead and they must understand that only and only the peace can be the viable solution in this tiny himalayan nation. Guys, Be more flexible on the issues and do not be attached with feudal autocratic regime. Be ready to throw old regime. Peace is inevitable.
Gorkhali Gurung,
Yes we must do that but first all Nepali should concentrate on establishing long lasting peace. That is of utmost importance. Then after that we can move forward and must not leave Gyane also. But let us focus on the issue of peace others are secondary issues.
SPA and maoist are talking but I want to ask everyone who puts comment here what maoist and SPA should do in order to end the conflict?
Hey guys,
One question : What should or how should maoist or SPA go about so that there is long lasting peace in the country?
I feel that if “BARTA” fails shoot all the leaders or put them behind bars and then we can deal with the what they call jana sena. With leaders not there to guide it will be lot easier to manage them though we might have to go through some tough time. After that its maoist free Nepal.
I am tilting towards this side because I don’t see a silver lining at the end of the Barta and last time also same thing happened. Barta failed and we suffered. If Baburam had been shot or jailed it may have been a different story.
We have one saying “JASTA LAI TYASTAI DHIDO LAI NISTAI” or “IRON CUTS IRON”.
Without arms managament I can guarantee that there won;t be any peace because they are bound to use it afterwards.
Analogy : If a killer is caught by cops then frist thing the cops do is take the weapon away from the killer then talk with him. Has anyone seen police talking before taking the weapon away? NO. The killer will use it again.
Same as that Maoist are killers.
“hanne marne bahek kehi chha tyo dimagma?”
A good question to put forth to Prachanda and Baburam.
In any case the peace process looks hopeful. The Maoists have said that they are willing to work on the arms issue provided other political issue are also part of the package.
I am fairly confident that Baburam, Prachanda and Mahara want a peaceful settlement. By now I am sure they have realized that there is no other way. However, what is of concern is the lower level cadres. At this point it is still unclear how much control Prachanda has over his militias. It also remains to be seen if these militias, who have been roaming in the law less countryside, are going to lay down their arms and join mainstream society.
It is important that the government keeps the maoists on short leashes. These guys will only honour an agreement for as long as it benefits them. Their ultimate goal is to replace a de jure monarchy and de facto republic with a de jure and de facto communist despotism.
KTV: “maoists and SPA has aggreed to nationalize the late King Birendra’s property”
Now property(land) mafia has their praying eye on it.
I am not optimistic about the success of talks. If ,the talks fail this time Govt. should immediately declare the all leaders of Maoists terrorists give order to Katuwal to pursue and hit and kill all of them. If not the should try to capture them alive.
Our army is eally a Namarda’s army because they could not do any thing to tnhe Maoists. On the contrary they killed many soldiers. Thuikka, one lakh army le ke garyo ? Khali swasni ko naam Ranisaab rakhyo ani takma layo hindyo ? what is this ? Raanisaabs are powerful than generals. Thuikka :!!
pandit: prachanda and baburam have tried to show that they have also other thing except hanne-marne in their dimag. they have iterated their commitment for a peaceful settlement time and again. how genuine is that commitment? only time can tell. but one should give them benefit of doubt. and this is the last chance.
by and large the cadres are under the control of leadership. which is also positive sign.
pyare: i pity you.
Hey all,
I again reiterate the same thing. How can peace prevail with arms and amunition around?
Barud ko ganda le shanti ko basna lai failana didai na. (NEVER EVER, American Banduk le Iraq ma santi layo ta??)
All maoist talk is about package. Tell me with guns in their hand they will definately try to get people vote for them.
All we want is fair election conducted in save environment so that people can vote without any fear and show their support to who ever they fill will lead the country. No one has to force anyone to vote for them. If SPA or maoist say they are fighting for Nepali people let them give chance for Nepali junta free to choose their leader. If maoist think they are so popular and have influenced people from villages with their communist idealogy then give them fair chance get Junta’s verdict. That is real democracy or republic anything you can say. If people are forced to choose someone then what is difference between Gyane and maoist?
That will show who is the real hero and who are real zeros. Maoist know that without threathening people they are not going to be elected that is why they are shouting about package.
If maoist are given space in govt. with arms then that will be the single most greatest mistake in the history of Nepal and I can guarantee that.
Prachanda and Baburam have said many things but how genuine they are is up in the air. We are giving them the benefit of the doubt right now… however, the fact that Maoist cadres in rural Nepal continue their autocities is not a good indication and a cause of serious concern.
mero desh: you’re confused.
you ask, did amrikane gun create peace in iraq.
flat answer is NO.
And thats WHY we here in nepal are supporting the PEACE-PROCESS.
we have realised that guns DON’T bring/create peace.
From the April revolution we SHOWED the Maos that you DON’T NEED gun to topple a despot or bring changes in the polity!
Thats why we’re pushing the maoists to give up their arms through peace-process.
And we’re confident, we’ll succeed.
BUT some are going to loose in this peace process. in fact they’ve already, but if the peace process materialises they will be eliminated from the scene. they’ll never be able to bounce like they did after 1990.
NOW people like you or pandit either are confused or have some vested interest.
AND people like pyare or harke are the real bugs, viruses. i can understand their wrath because either they’re slaves of gyane or kids of rana/shahs.
Give peace a chance but without the guns at disposal. Lets not carried away with euphoria of summit talks, too early to tell. Too many cooks spoils the food as they say.
Deal with Arms management before going for no brainers. And avoid coming to defence by ignoring the ground reality, it will be like shooting yourself in the foot. Zealoutry can take you only so far.