By Govinda Neupane
Rejoinder to the previous article.
[UWB published an article by Neupane on May 30 (Spring Thunder in Nepal: Glorious but Inconclusive) which was equally appreciated and thrashed by fellow bloggers. Here in this esay, Neupane defends his article and responds to criticism. Govinda Neupane is one of the founding members of the Communist Party of Nepal (Marxist-Leninist). Neupaneg.com is his personal web site and he could be contacted at neupaneg1987@yahoo.com.]
Excerpt from previous article:
The so-called national consensus on holding the election of the constituent assembly may not necessarily provide synergy only for forward movement. The situation is fluid and complex and it is natural that the Maoists will maintain their army and even they may expand and strengthen their fighting capacity….Therefore, the polarization between the parliamentary forces and the Maoists sounds imminent. Hence, in all probability, the people have to live in a situation of civil war till the unjust upper class Khas rule becomes history…
Khas Domination:
In Nepal, there are five nationalities – Madheshi (31.53%), Khas (30.89%), MangolKirat (23.05%), Dalit (7.87%) and Newar (5.48%). Besides, there are some small unclassified groups (1.19%). The Khas has four sub-groups. They are Bahun, Chhetri, Thakuri and Sanyasi. The Khas-Hindu rulers used the caste system, cultural invasion and Hindu administrative as well as legal system as the basis for suppressing the cultures of other nationalities. The process of Khas domination had started long ago and the state provided the leadership.
Therefore, the role of the state in creating favorable environment for Khas domination and centralization of available resources, opportunities and power around them is the primary reason for all sorts of inequalities among nationalities. In 2005, Khasas having a population of 30.89% had been occupying 59.18% of the powerful leadership positions in four major areas – state, political parties, private sector and civil society. (For details, please see my book “Nepalko jatiya Prashna: Samajik Banot ra Sajhedariko Sambhavana“, Second Edition – 2005, Center for Development Studies – Nepal, Kathmandu. The first edition of the book in English titled The Nationalities’ Question in Nepal: Social Convergence and Partnership Building through Multiculturalism and Federalism” is available for download here). In reality, if we wish to build an egalitarian, civilized and prosperous Nepal, we should end the Khas domination in every aspect of national life.
Land Issue:
There are four issues involved – ownership, communal relations (i.e., nationalities’ ownership pattern, such as who controls the former Kipat land in Limbuan), value of land as per its location and productivity. In Nepal, land brings prestige, provides insurance cover and ensures livelihood for a large majority of people. Therefore, one has to appreciate the role that land plays. Moreover, it is the most important means of production. Also, the land has contributed to class conflicts, court cases and corruption opportunities for the bureaucrats including in the legal system who are called judges. Therefore, resolution of the land issue has been critical and central.
The issue is not that everybody has to share poverty, rather everybody should have equitable share on prosperity. Therefore, the traditional land reform alone may not solve the problem, though it is true that there is the need of redistribution of land particularly based on “land to the tiller”. Hence, one has to be creative, innovative and willing to accept the mechanism of collective problem solving. Cooperative farming particularly horticulture in commercial scales in the hill areas by bringing land and labor inputs together as shares could be one among such initiatives. In some areas, reverting to communal ownership as an upgraded Kipat system may help. In fact, the most important issues are to ensure equity, justice and prosperity. Let’s collectively continue to search for better and better options to resolve the issues related to land, which is one of the most important productive resources in Nepal.
Maoist Movement:
After the historic people’s movement of 1990, the expectation was that the pace of change would be faster. The aspirations among the people heralded that the political forces should move in an unprecedented speed so as to bridge the political, social, economic and intellectual gap created by overall underdevelopment, injustices and irresponsible governance. After the movement, one or the other party formed the government. Unfortunately, they not only overlooked the people’s aspirations and the national development agenda but also nearly all the leaders and influential cadres of the parliamentary political parties accumulated unimaginable wealth through all sorts of corrupt practices. As a result, disappointment and frustration among the people run high. In the mean time the Maoists took arms.
The politico-economic and social agenda have centered on the armed confrontations, battles and war since 1996. Since then, the society has been passing through a difficult phase of transition. In fact, feudalism has been fast disappearing in the villages. The towns and cities also are passing through socio-political change, speedily. The awakening among the oppressed nationalities has been unprecedented. And, hope has been generated among the people. The “Spring Thunder of April 2006” has opened up the opportunities to realize the dream of a new Nepal. Now, the Nepalese state and people could address the issues of fundamental societal transformation.
Therefore, there is the need of a superstructure, which is compatible to the transformational agenda. If the society has to move forward, there should be a progressive state which operates with dynamic political processes. Obviously, pluralism with a difference (please see my article “Pluralism with Difference” for definition and characteristics on this page.) provides the synergistic environment to all political parties, social and economic forces and mass organizations to function as centers of excellence. Also, it makes them accountable as the people could judge them continuously. The important factors are the orientation of the state power and the choice of a mechanism by which the power is exercised. When the interest of the common people, their values and visions occupy primacy, rest will fall accordingly.
It is important to institutionalize those primacies in the form of constitutional provisions, and for this purpose there is the need of a duly elected constituent assembly. When there are such provisions in the constitution drafted and adopted by the constituent assembly, the armed forces and the bureaucracy need overhaul. A surgical process can insert the new state values within a new operational framework. The amalgamation of two armies into one could provide the opportunity for such surgical process. To create such opportunities, many individuals, groups, parties and forces fought resolutely. Certainly, the Maoists are one among the major players. Therefore, it is normal and natural to appreciate the Maoists for their value adding contributions in this historic process.
Validation of Conclusion
The consensus that has built around the constituent assembly could be the new departure point in the endeavor for building a new nation, a new Nepal. But, if this process gets obstructed, the course may turn again into a violent one. We should not forget this probability only because of the euphoria of optimism. Being impulsive is good, but keeping the head cool is better.
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136 responses to “Spring Thunder In Nepal…Glorious But Inconclusive-II”
To be more precise it should be noted as a Brahmin domination and not a Khas domination. This has been recorded by Dor Bahadur Bista in his book Fatalism and Development. If people are interested in the trend of complete Brahminisation of our nation through the ages, read the book. Neupane being from the Brahmin group has done a typical what do you call it – ah yes a Brahmin move to sound holier than thou and include more innocent victims and tools of power for the Brahmins along with his gang of baun bajes.
Also since Mr. Neupane is a founding member of ML and probably will read comments on this blog, it is an opportune moment to ask how he could follow a corrupt, and morally character less man like Bam Dev Gautam?
its not time talk Brahmins vs Bhote or Brahmins vs Madhesi. Nepal’s first and foremost priority is peace. whats wrong with Govinda Neupane.
“Govinda Neupane is one of the founding members of the Communist Party of Nepal (Marxist-Leninist).”
Thats wrong with him…what else can these people talk about except dividing the nation in the name of federalism, blah, blah…
When i was being influenced by “rajniti”in the college days,my dad being a spiritual man gave me this book “How i became a hindu” by sita ram goel.He talks of his transformation from cruel communism to spiritual hinduism.I hope our maoist brothers will read the book and get the peace that they have been looking for.
Few lines from the book,copied from wikepedia,
I had come back at last, come back to my spiritual home from which I had wandered away in self forgetfulness. But this coming back was no atavistic act. On the contrary, it was a reawakening to my ancestral heritage which was waiting all along for me to lay my claim on its largesses. It was also the heritage of all mankind as proved by the seers, sages and mystics of many a time and clime. It spoke in different languages to different people. To me it spoke in the language of Hindu spirituality and Hindu culture at their highest. I could not resist its call. I became a Hindu
Parewa,
There are so many liberators in this blog who do not like words such as Hindu, Hinduism, etc. I fear you would be labeled ‘regressive’ ‘heretic’ blah, blah in the name of secularism.
But nice lines…
Well at least Mr. Neupane has the courage to look at Truth in the eyes. A lot of you guys just want to sweep it under the carpet.
Why are people still talking about religion? Follow whatever religion you want. Who’s stopping you?
mp sharma if you want to call us janjatis bhote do mind us calling you a kaate baun? you corpse eating monkey.
these guys seem to be determined to make nepal even poorer by dividing population into castes and races.
they have no solution but only problem statement. stop this politics.
societal transformation – yes but no to further divisions and infighting
I am following this blog for a long time and see that most of the bloggers like to undo the two and half century history and divide this country in ethnic or Janjati line. As hardly any jati(from dalit to bahun) or janjati (from Kusunda to Tamang or Tharu) are in majority (except in few districts), how a ethnic federalism will work nobody has yet put light on it. It did not work in Soviet Union and neither it is working in China. Russian supremacy in Soviet Union, Mandarin supremecy in China, Hindi belt supremecy in India and white and mosty Anglo-Saxon supremecy in United States of America exit in those federal systems. In case of Nepal, there is only two distinct divisions, Pahade and Madeshe which makes binary federal system.
Wonder why ethnicity is becoming an issue? you guys are such hypocrites! Really.
I cannot understand how this Kirat guy tries to stick his finger on everything as if he knows everything.I read his thought on FDI.May be someone as stupid as him would bring money to Nepal now when maoist gov.is eminent with risks of nationalisation of properties.Even Baburam said they will do it to certain industries(what that certain defines is unknown).
I am sick of ur ethnic cries Kirat.Its like Blacks saying they dont have jobs in US,when all they are interested in is dropping out of school and homicide.Work hard,study hard you will have people in high posts and everything.
How do u get so much of time to be online all the time.Or is it that some maoist mukti morcha is operating on the name Kirat and running a 24 hour abuse hotline.
Sick of u pal.Change ur attitude ur change the place to post ur comments.
There are countless social ills and injustices that must be addressed AFTER the pending Maoist conquest is overturned. Nepalis of all religions and tribes and castes must unite to defeat the Maoists are all else is lost. We can return to happily fighting amongst and hating ourselves after the greatest threat to the survival of our nation is dealt with.
Mr. Parewa
Your comment—“Its like Blacks saying they dont have jobs in US,when all they are interested in is dropping out of school and homicide.” suggests a harrowing dissonance between your observation and capability to analyze it objectively. You cross seven seas, but still you carry around ‘the luggage’ on your back—prejudice, stereotyping. Let it go, such a burden might crack your spinal chord and there is a danger of being paralytic for life, intellectually which you already are.
My friend, I guess you might have heard about—slavery, Jim Crow, lynching, persecution by KKK followed by abject poverty and lack of opportunity for long long time.
You cage a dog for long time, poorly fed, whipped and tortured and one fine day, you decide to give it freedom and let it go. When they fail to make it in the open, you bitch around, their failure is not due to oppression for long time, it is because they have a bad Genes, they are inherently lazy and incompetent and violent.
Just because someone wrote something, which did not suit your palate and what you do? You spew out such an oxymoron remark. Had you been kicked around, looked down upon, you would have homicidal tendency too. Now, what is the difference between you and a black guy? Oh my righteous brother! Things look totally different from higher moral ground, please step down, there again is a danger of falling down and snapping your back and be paralytic for life again.
You are living a very precarious life.
Be very cautious, Parewa, there are predators like falcons and eagles around on prowl, when they come after you ass, you would know how it is be chased around.
oye wagle! do not wallow in your fame, remember, it is us, the visitors that have stoked your fame. put our guard down and ease on the moderation.
UWB: Yahoo! Your comment is posted above. Sorry for the moderation problem. It has largely to do with the WordPress system that we use to run the blog. Sorry again.
parewa, I can see from your comments about Blacks that you are just a racist git. I have broadband in my office and post in between work. My laptop allows me to post when I am at home. Is the mystery over? By the way about working hard if you can achieve what I have at my age you would probably be over the moon! I am afraid I would like to keep my anonymity so I cannot reveal furhter personal info.
If the premise of your argument about Nepal’s economics is based on a Maoist takeover than there is no point in any economic discussion is there? I am not so negative in my thought as some of you gits seem to be. Why so negative parewa-didn’t the US DV visa lottery work out for you?
For you guys the solution is to sweep all the ethnic problems in Nepal under the carpet. What a solution! What hypocrites!
So, ur so big, so huge, achieved so much that u have too much time to blog all day long. Well i cant quite comprehend that. What i know is, once u achieve more u become more humble,more humane and get busier. What i learnt in school back in Nepal seems so wrong, may be u would enligten me on that.
About economics, lets not brag or anything but i can tell you atleast this much, I know more about economics than most here,certainly more than you do. And i am not going to INVEST IN NEPAL RIGHT NOW!! Doesnt mean i am less sensitive to my motherland,doesnt mean i am less patriotic. Just means i have some common sense.
Well about DV, i never had to fill it up. Even if i was in US thru DV or whatever its none of ur business. Actually its none of ur business if i am in US or in Rolpa.Just stick to the point pal.
Yahoo,learn some English man.Write in a language that everyone can understand and dont try to kill a bird with a canon.Why would you write a novel of dirty words for something that is none of ur business.No wonder Mr.wagle is working overtime to sensor you.
Put your time and Ur amazing vocabulary to better use.Best of luck with it pal.
mitra parewa
i will try to learn some english and thank you for suggestion. i am not trying to kill a bird(that is parewa), i am just trying to get it home, which is apparantly lost. If canary sings a lot, there is a danger of being shot. Beware!!
If you throw a tihs (reverse) on the fan, it hits everyone, so it does become everyone’s business.
Once again, thank you for your wishes.
Maoists sound all sweet and nice on the tube, but there actions is what counts and their actions are all wrong and nothing but a reign of terror and thuggery.
A couple of maoists cadres were painting crap on the door of Mr. Mahesh Goyal, his wife ran down and asked them not to ask they had just painted the door. This duo manhandled her, the husband saw this and ran down to assist his wife. He was also manhandled, the marwari duos satff called the cops, who came and took the duo away.
Later the same day 4 bus loads of maoists came back to Goyals house went inside and roughed up and beat up him and his staff and then cooly charged him 8000 + rupees for something or the other. The police who were informed came with their vans but were told by the maoists to stay out. The Inspector told them that he was responsible for this area, so they asked him only to come in but without his gun. The inspector went in things werre settled but the maoists then insisted on coming to the police station where their duo were locked up. They went to the station with the inspector, asked who arrested them, when the inspector showed them they slapped the two cops who arrested the duo and took off with thier duo.
What the F@#$ is happening? Who is controlling these bloody thugs and gundas?
If the government does not do anything, we should all be allowed to carry arms, then we will show thse f@#$%^& b@#$%^&* how it feels.
To repeat: There are countless social ills and injustices that must be addressed AFTER the pending Maoist conquest is overturned. Nepalis of all religions and tribes and castes must unite to defeat the Maoists are all else is lost. We can return to happily fighting amongst and hating ourselves after the greatest threat to the survival of our nation is dealt with.
Bideshi, you don’t seem to get it. The Maoists are what they are because of the difference between the ethnicities in Nepal. The way to overcome the Maoists is to address this mis-balance.
Ethnic Nepalis feel left out of the decision making process in Nepalese politics and government. Listen to the Maoists propoganda. They are playing the ethnic card to the max. The solution is not to pretend that there is nothing wrong but to address the mis-balance so that the different ethnic groups in Nepal do not feel neglected.
If there is a problem the first step to finding a solution is to accept that there is a problem. If you think there is no problem then why the need for a solution?
Your idea of fighting with each other once the Maoist problem is solved just shows how little you understand about the problem afflicting the country.
interim govt, interim parliament, interim prime minister. what next–interim army, interim law, interim king and perhap interim nepal itself. what the heck the maoists and SPA is trying to prove. screw mao and screw terror.
It seems that after sixteen years of democratic misrule, royal intransigence, Maoist and state terror very few Nepalis have learned any good lessons. Instead they choose to stick to their narrow, selfish ways. Without understanding and sacrifice how can this country prosper and progress?
mitra yahoo,
thanks for your best wishes.I cannot comment much on ur sayings coz still cant get what u mean to say exactly.Anyways,have fun mate.
Meeting the Maoists with a gun at you in real life is quite different than seeing them in tv screen. A fairy tale monarch is wonderful if you are not living under monarchy.
Most of you people with funny names in this blog look like foreign residents or diaspora living a cozy life in developed countries and advising us here in Nepal this and that.Why don’t you give real identity and residency and start discussion seriously?
yes i heard about the manhandling of Mr Goyal, and our home minister does not bothered at all. now who is going to protect the people from these maoists gunda the thugs. Krinsha Sitaula is proving himself a maoist agent.
Mitra Raj
You have got one thing right, all the names are funny and may be all of them are ‘ex-pat’. It is even true that you might be getting the brunt of all the circus happening in Nepal since you physically there.
But that’s where you being right ends. All of us living cozy lifves, very wishful thinking, if you have not been to foreign and tried to survive, you would never even comprehend the the difficulties and hardship. Come around and see for yourself.
Now, about us making comment, why is it less valid than yours? just because you happen to live there you have more say than the people outside the border. Opinions surpasses any geo-political borders.
When some ‘white people’ at WB (world bank not warner bros) or IMF makes policies for you and alocates grants, it is fine for you, but when ‘ex-pat’ nepali have opinions they are somehow less valid.
Everyone doesn’t enjoy circus, that’s why may be we are here and commenting away, hoping that, one day madness ends and get back home.
cioa
continue…
revealing ones identity, you have posted as raj…now there are hundreds and thousands of raj….which raj you are taking about….
one at okhaldunga
or one at ramechap
or one at sindhuli
or one at kavre
which one?
even if i give you my true identity what are you goind to do with it? send me a gift?
yahoo, in defense of raj if you guys living outside Nepal do not have much on an idea of what is really happening here than some of your comments can really sound superfluous.
And please don’t compare expat Nepalis with the World Bank (first of all the WB is quite a failure). They invest money and thus their conditions-look at idiots like parewa who said he would never invest a cent in Nepal as long as Maoists are around and that it is foolish to talk about FDI-it’s as if he his doing an economic sanction of Nepal all by himself. Mero Mobile, backed largely by foreign nationals and expat Nepalis, alone in the last three years must have invested more than USD 20.0 mio in Nepal. They have just announced that they will invest a further USD 15.0 mio in their infrastructure. Without FDI I don’t understand how we will be able to improve our economy-and that idiot parewa boasts that he knows more than most about economics!
So I sort of understand where raj is coming from.
Unity in diversity. Lets respect our cultural and ethnic diversity. We don’t need other Prithivi Shah to unite our country.
kirat ji
your comment– “yahoo, in defense of raj if you guys living outside Nepal do not have much on an idea of what is really happening here than some of your comments can really sound superfluous.”
i didn’t quite well get it, what you trying to propose here, so i can’t refute/assert of me being superflous. if you woudl deem to elaborate on that i might be able to exaplain myself better.
I humbly request you to revisit my last post again, where i don’t find myself comaparing expat with WB.
suva ratri
goodmorning yahoo, I was not referring to you but some of the other idiotic posters from overseas. Ofcourse there are some very intelligent posters amongst the Nepali diaspora such as Bhudai Pundit, Manan and (with all flattery/chakari) yourself.
Mr. neupane,
there is barely a word of truth in your writing.
you have expressed only a political utopia charted out of the failed communist ideology.
For instance, you still believe in equal land distribution and eradication of academic elites as the solution to poverty stricken Nepal.
You are trying to validate Maoists’ armed uprising as a reaction to political failures in the aftermath of the 1990 movement. This is a Maoist rhetoric, a prerext to justify their abominable acts of robberies, abductions, rapes, and genocides. The fact is that Maoists could not come to power, could not win enough number of parliamentarians in the 1st and 2nd elections they participated in after the 1990s movement, so they concluded that they will never come to power through free elections. This conclusion led them to become outlaws, in a manner a half-wit and lazy person cannot earn a good living, thus goes to rob a bank.
Only when we become anti-Nepali, we become true Nepali, meaning we need to empty out the rotten, infected ideas out of our head so that we can start anew.
yahoo ji,could not agree more with u.But will still say u need some improvement in ….guess u understood.
Well i dont want to say anything to kirat “murkha dekhi daiba darauchan” aafu ta bichara manche.
Raj ji,coming away from Nepal doesnt mean i love my country less.Someday down the line u will know my identity too but for the time being just believe when i say,i have done more for my motherland than most people.And if i cared less for my motherland i wont be here,i would be somewhere like myspace or hi5.Here i am to discuss about my tattered,battered,but still my own motherland.Here u are too….to involve urself in a discussion you could have avoided,so u too care for your motherland.Together we have to build our nation from tatters,we have to rise above the ordinary.Best of luck my friend.KRIPAYA AAJA DEKHI UPARANTA KASAIKO DESHBHAKTI MA SANKA NAGARNUHOLA.
ah parewa, one of the idiot posters I was talking about!
Your boast on economic knowledge and your position on FDI in Nepal is laughable. Hilarious was your statement that you would not invest a cent in Nepal in the present situation-we don’t need your patronizing. FYI many foreigners are still investing in Nepal. I have just learned from my friend that BAE Systems are putting four of their most modern aircraft in Nepal on lease to a local company. Thank god a lot of people have more faith than you in our country. Without FDI how do you expect to stimulate the Nepali economy? Just have the NRB print more cash? Or do you think we Nepalis have billions of dollars stashed under our pillows?
mr. kirat..u forgot Coke mann..he was one nice guy….maybe some more chakaree….can bring him back…..
coke? don’t really remember him making too many intelligent postings. he usually just posted anti-indian rantings. not worth the chakari!
most of the guys in this blog have INFLATED EGOS and its nice to deflate it with a prick once in a while…
..u guys r no saints…just mortals..and please keep ur feet firmly to the ground…whichever ground….nep, ind, usa…
..dont end up like “the big fart, no chief” joke
mr kirat
hope that makes coke post intelligent quotes
now i know, this is the reason why bahuns used to get so much beating in hostel without any cause. i thought it was just for fun but becasue of this things we didn’t know then, kind of reflex action….
for any investor to invest there should be few basic requirements.
1.Political stability.
2.Infrastructure (electricity,fuels)
3.Skilled manpower.
4.Tax reform/reform on labour laws.
5.A viable market for the product.
Its not difficult for us to realise that presently we cannot say we have any of them.Let the political situation clear up and if we have a good reform minded gov.then of course there will be investment.Investment can be in the form of FDIs or from Nepali sources or combined investment.Our banks too have a large sum of money and are looking for oppertunities to invest.
Somebody talked of Mero mobile,last time i was in ktm a year back.Their Nepali GM was saying everybody says that they are getting an unfair advantage but infact they are really being obstructed in their quest.I am not sure how it is doing right now,hope its doing fine.As everyone knows Mr.Mahato worked really hard to convince the Kazaks to invest in Nepal at that time.
Someone leasing or selling their product should not be categorised as investment.But we can say that something new being brought in the market shows the demand and hence the health of the economy .
Our main priority right now should be.Lets reform our old tax laws,reform our labour laws(we just went on the opposite way recently).With peace and stability investment will come.Personally i feel we have great great potential in hydropower,bhutan has more than double of our percapita just because of hydropower,we have immense potential here,we have the manpower,we have the consumer which is energy starved India.We just need political stability and we can zoom ahead.
Second is tourism,imagine when two hundred thousand people a year can come during the peak of andolan.A million tourists a year is not far away.
But if i were to invest,i would wait a while,let the situation clear up and once we have a stable political senario i am sure investments will come.But right now concerete assurance of long term peace is most important,with peace, prosperity will follow.
Dear Mr. Neupane,
Many of the comments on your article are not true but in the end you have written a national issue, thus data won’t be any matter.
Firstly, the precentage of Khas in your article is not correct. Khas having more percentage than Madheshi community.
2ndly, Khas are not divided into Bahun, Chhetri, Thakuri and Sanyasi but the true and history of Nepal is: Brahmin, Chhetri, Baisya & Sudra. Mostly Brahmins are on Praying profession, governance and very few are in private sector and business while Chhetris are on Security sector and few are in private and business. Likewise, Khas are mostly on farming and business, whereas Sudras are the same which you have called “Dalits”. So you have taken out Sudra from Khas system and mixed with mangols. Sudra’s are mostly working class e..g potery, masion, carpenter & HALIYA.
Regarding your comment on everypart taken by Brahmins, which is not true at all. I give you some example;
1. Private sector and mostly in Kathmandu government sector as well occupied by Newars but business wise, Newar’s are in Top everywhere you go, e.g. you go to Pokhara, Biratnager, Bhairahawa, even Dhangadi, 60-70% businesses are holding by Newars.
2. Likewise, if you look at the security system, it is dominated by Chhetris and mostly Mangols.
3. Travel sector: Centrally it is dominated by Ranas whose are originally Baisya but promoted by Jung Bahadur to Chhetri and region wise this sector is dominated by Sherpas and Rais which are Mangols.
4. Madhesi: higher class madhesis are on every level of Government sector but lower levels are on farming and transportation sector.
5. sanyasi: You have mentioned this sect. Sanyasi can be anyone which means “jogi or Sadhu” In past era they generally come from Baisya group but if anyone doesn’t like to marry and life social life that becomes Sadhu or Sanyasi. thus it’s not a particular group of Khas system. He or she can be Brahmin, cheetri, Sudra or Mangols or Newars. It’s personal decision and mental status of someone.
Further comment on Mr. Neupane’s Article:
Land Reform:
As per your saying that it is fully captured by Khas but your conclusion is Brahmins: Here you are talking about few hector land of region of Terai, where again you have mentioned Madhesis are in common, if Madhesi percentage is higher than Khas, how those Madhesi, Dalits and others are surving in this region without having land, job or business??? Which is not true. I know and everyone knows that yes, few of Brahmin or Chhetris may have huge amount of Land but many of Newars, Madhesi and Dalits (Tharu’s; I am sorry if you are not taking them as Dalits. I have seen in Terai, many rich Tharus themselve having 600 BIGHA of land and having more than 100 low level Tharus’s as Kamaiya. What do you say about this??? If you are talking about majority. Then let’s why not talk about regionwise.
1. Who having most land and property in Kathmandu valley? Brahmin, Chhetri or Newar and Mangols. I bet and 100% sure it is completely occupied by Newars and Mangols. Likewise, you go to Nache, who has occupied and dominated the area; No single Brahmin or Chhetri having house there. I have many examples for you thus don’t talk this rubbish about Brahmin or Chhetri but talk something sensible how to reform this country. Everyone having brain (that’s why they behave otherwise people tell him or her Pagal) but question is who can use brain in a right place in a right manner.
You people are using you brain to abuse and mock to caste system but this will be removed by education not by giving a peace of land to Dalit or Mangols. Cann’t you use your tiny brain on this. We have to educate them, provide them job opportunity this system will automatically collapsed. You don’t need to write down 200 pages of book on it. Instead of writing rubbish and spending money on, spend that amount of money to sponsor one child from Dalit or Mangol who can again educate hundreds.
Further to MR. Neupane
Now talk about Equal division of Land & Property:
1. You think the land reform system in past is not a behavouristic or impractical. I know you are talking about someone’s huge amount of Land but is it necessary that he or she has occupied it forcebly or hereditary? It might be bought by him or her or presented by someone etc.
Likewise, if someone having huge land or property: There may be other probability as well: e.g. Assume my gradfather’s grandfather had 600 Bigha of land, My grandfather’s father was a single son ie. he got the same, again my grand father and my father and me also a single everytime. This concludes I also have got 600 Bighas of land. Thus from 5th Generation the property didn’t change because there wasn’t anyone to share it.
But you grandfather’s granfather had 12 sons and likewise to reach to your generation you having 200 persons to share same land i.e. 600/200 i.e. you have only got 3 Bigha but at the same time I have got 600 Bigha. Now you wanted to have that land to share with me and make it 301.5 Bigha each. Am I right???? and do you think is it reasonable to do so. Is that my mistake to have 200 grand children of your forefather? or do you realise the reality?
Likewise, if I work in foreign country for 10 years, comes with loads of money and build house and buy few Bigha of land and in the end you land reforming people come to me and ask for the equal division of land and property from me. Then I have to share my hardworking money with someone who never work and no any significance in my life. Do you think this brings you in equality?
Likewise let’s again assume another example:
My father taught me for 16 years bearing hard time and with loans and credits from Bank and relatives and when I passed my degree, do you think I have to compete with someone who hasn’t even passed SLC or you wanna me to leave reservation for someone who has studied with someones gratitude (i.e. free). Then what will happen in the society? I guess eveyone will curse to be born in Brahmin family. Because you get everything without doing any hard job if you are non Brahmin. You can have reservation, you can have land and property just because you are non Brahmin.
Please justify this via blog.
parewa, thanks for the elementary school economics lesson.
Please keep your hard earned dollars frying burgers or washing dishes (in Arkansas?) to yourself.
any stand-up comedians here??
please step up…and lets have fun……
I think this Neupane should have stopped at his first article for UWB. UWB decribed the responses to the first article as mixed. However Neupane has now put the final nail in his coffin as almost all the comments to his second attempt and defense is NEGATIVE. Call it a day Mr. Neupane and go and teach ethics to Bam Dev Gautam.
with the rate of callin everyguy a thug and rating oneself as the 1st rate critic….most of the guys would do well as stand-up comics…..
rather than the story i’m more focused on story-tellers………
This kind of propoganda als made by CPN(UML) in 2046 to gain popularity, but after 14 years we saw many of them owning expesive property in Kathmandu and found sending their children to USA where their children are living in capitalist standard. The same who were giving and still giving the big and loud speeches in front of the poor and innocent people but inside they are being proud of their sons livings in USA. For example Bamdeve Gautama, Bharata Mohana Adhikari, Khagendra Sangraulaji, Laxman Aryalji many many of them….Talking and doing is different part of the life…