History in Nepal: Interim Government With Maoists Takes Oath
By Dinesh Wagle
[Here is details of what happened in parliament today And here is list of ministers]
Prime Minister Girija Prasad Koirala resigned from the post of Prime Minister today only to be reappointed, this time by the parliament, to the same position within half an hour. [Historically, PMs in Nepal have been appointed by the king.] Prime Minister Koirala, who is also the acting Head of State of Nepal because the king is constitutionally in the state of suspension, is heading an interim government that has several other parties -most notably the Maoist, former rebel- in the cabinet. Koirala, appointed for the record 6th time as the Prime Minister, first took the oath in Parliament and administered the same to his ministers. Before all these developments, Nepali people saw intense meetings of parties to finalize the details of the coalition. Some unexpected problems emerged as parties saw some portfolios were removed (the disappearance of the post of Deputy PM hit the Amik Serchen’s Jana Morcha the most).
I am thrilled to see the Maoists MPs taking oath of the ministerial posts. The induction of the Maoists in the government has sent waves of hope to Nepali people who are desperately looking forward to the successful completion of the peace process. There are some people, most notably the royalists, who are firmly against the Maoist involvement in the government. Also the United States is against it. According to news reports, American ambassador James F Moriarty yesterday met Prime Minister Koirala in the latter’s official residence and suggested to drop the idea of inducting the Maoists in the government as it would be dangerous to until they surrender all their weapons. That might a point to be noted but weapons are not only the major problem right now. We believe that the Maoist presence in the government will help in making the peace process a success to that many people who suffered during the decade long insurgency would not have to suffer again.
[A personal note: I am the happiest man today! Lately I have been seeing some commentators branding me as Maoist mouthpiece or pro-Maoist which, I think, doesn't deserve to be dignified by my response. I think I should be the one who is firmly against the Maoist induction in the government- but I am not and I have reasons for that- because just a day before yesterday my parents returned from the village after local Maoist cadres didn't let them stay in home. Wagles had recently gone to Duragaun village of Ramechhap district to claim the property and home that always belonged to them but was captured by the Maoists for the last several years. The local Maoist cadres didn't return them the lands, didn't let them use their property and didn't let them stay in the house. News reports that came from Manthali, the district headquarters, and appeared in several newspapers in Kathmandu three days ago suggested the local Maoist cadres came to my home and forced my mother to leave the home. The district leadership stated that they didn't have the policy of not returning the properties and assured that they investigate the matter.
As a member of the family, how do I feel about that incident? Obviously, I am outraged and I feel this is a violation of the agreement that the Maoist signed with the government. At the same time I strongly want to believe that this is an isolated case and that Maoist will soon be able to solve this problem. I want to believe that Maoist leadership is fully committed to the peace process and competitive politics. I want to give them the benefit of doubt for the sake of the peace process. That's what as an individual I can do and as a family we can do as a contribution to the peace process. I know how much difficulties my family has been facing because of the capturing of the land and property. Let me look it from the-glass-is-half-FULL angle. For me and my parents, to be able to go to home is itself an achievement and we are hopeful that we will see more improvements in coming days. I am sure there are many people out there who would be happy in sacrificing their personal interests for the broad national interest. I wish all the best to the interim government. We must be able to vote in the election of Constituent Assembly in 20 June, yes, without any fears.]
Filed under: Peace Process 2
It seems to be a good sign. But we have to wait for the action, meaning, how the interim govt will function. Also i hope there are no ulterior motives. Hoping for peace and prosperity.
congratulation Girija for being PM many times and solely ruling this country since 1990…with the following outputs;
1.for making economy failure
2.success in sending more than 5 million people outside the nation to become labour in other countries
3.success in bringing red flag in Nepal
4.dividing the nation
5.heading country toward more ethnic crisis and civil war
But still hope for the best with this new solely strong interim government of spaM and look forward to see “New Nepal” for all.
Sagarmatha,
Actually all those things happened especially after Gyanendra did the massacre drama and captured the throne as part of his grand conspiracy against democracy. So you must be thankful, if you really want, to your master in Narayanhitti than blaming to Koirala.
But, yes as you said, we still have hope that we can send this despot to hell by our votes in CA election.
“The King is dead; Long Live Prachanda Pratapi Bhupati”.
I sincerely hope that we Nepalese are not now cheated of all our natural resources, WATER, by our great magnanimous beloved friend from the South.
Will Girija be shown the new treaty that Bhutan signed with India recently, I wonder!
But be warned, the next government in UP will not be the Indian Congress.
Is this a sign of the future og Delhi also?
Food for thought.
Deva
Deva-you want the country to fail just so your pet theories can be proved right? That’s the spirit of all Nepalis I guess!
Exactly! Girija family is earning more than Killer Gyanendra, the Girija family is like our KING gyanendra, nothing different between Girija and King gyanendra..yes the country was destroyed by Girija..he kicked Own party Leader Ganesh Man Sigh..after that he kicked again His leader Krishna pd. Bhattarai….then what can we aspect by this Girija?
Well he is a platform of his daughter Sujata to earn money in this country..beware this Girija will make our country more destroy…
To read the post “Nepal’s Ultra-Leftists Opt for Democracy” please click here http://themoderatevoice.com/general/11847/nepals-ultra-leftists-opt-for-democracy/
HA !! HA!!
Maoists attack town on Bihar-Nepal border
Shyam Kishore Singh
[ 1 Apr, 2007 0113hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]
SITAMARHI: In a raid with their trademark surprise element, more than 100 Maoists descended on Rega township in Sitamarhi district along Bihar-Nepal border and opened fire a little past 7 pm on Saturday. The number of casualties, if any, could not be ascertained immediately.
Muzaffarpur DIG Gupteshwar Pandey, Sitamarhi DM Suman Kumar and SP M R Naik had rushed to the spot with reinforcements.
While no official version of the incident was available, unconfirmed reports suggested that the Maoists had come from Nepal.
Rega is barely 15 km from the porous border between the two nations. Report reaching Patna said the Maoists also looted a bank and laid a virtual siege to the Rega police station during the operation.
Everest,
The way you blamed to the dead monarchy for everything shows how “Nalayak” you are and how much eagerness to support your Malik “Prachanda ang Girija” for present and future misdeeds? Gyanendra did the mistake he got the punishment and I accept it personally but what about your “Malik Prachand and Girija”? We expect nothing just hope your “Malik” will not kill and torture in the name of politics. That is all..
Finally, maoists converted to the government body from the rebel group. Well, this is a great development in the history of Nepal. Really, today, i am also feeling a great happiness inside me. Hope that everything will be fine as per the dream of we Nepali people. Now, the challenges began. It is not so easy task to complete the CA election within the given date in peaceful environment. Here may come many more threats and challenges which are beyond our thinking. The enemies of the people and the elements which don’t want to see the CA election in our country as well as the foreigners who can’t see the Maoists in the government may play the role of obstacles in the process. Whatever happened and happening is nothing but what may happen is the thing to be taken seriously. So, there is the need of understanding and good coordination between the parties in the government. And, the people also have to show their passion and have to support the government to fulfill it’s responsibilities with the best effort by their side.
And we have guts to say that king gyanendra did the great msitakes and he is getting the punishment and which should be deserved at present context…Do you have guts to say that your “maliks” are also doing the mistakes?? if you say they are 100% right then just go to lick their feet….and wait for their more quarrel in future powr lust…
“Gyanendra did the mistake he got the punishment”
Babu Sagarmatha,
First part of your statement is right and you are dead wrong on your second remark. Don’t try to save your “dead” donkey, brother, he hasn’t been punished yet. The punishment will be served only when he is dragged out of Narayanhitti and flushed out of the country. The punishment will be served only when all the properties of the biggest landlord will be nationalized. Then you will be correct in your second statement.
Regarding my “masters”, I think they are here to stay. And jointly they will change the face of Nepal and liberate it from the clutches of the 238 year old tyranny of the Shahas. If the royalists try to play the game and come as obstacles in holding CA elections, then we will declare Nepal a republic in the next two months and show your master the exit gate. Now be cool and wait for that day.
Mr. Wagle, thanks for sharing your personal account. You are indeed a great man for the taking the moral high-ground. Yes, your family was wronged, and yet, you have managed to forgive in the name of a higher objective. Yes, you have demonstrated selflessness of a variety that most humans do not have the capacity to exhibit.
But recognize this: appeasement is not compromise and exhibition of your morality on this blog is an insufficeint condition for sustainable peace, security and with it, vibrant democracy.
The Maoists have finally joined the government but free and fair CA polls (whether by Royalist instigation or Bahunist conspiracy), is still not an achievable objective. Just as the term “democracy” has different meaning for our brothers/sisters in grey, “free and fair” elections for them, is when they win. Should elections results not favor them, it’ll be another conspiracy.
Prolonging a situation premised on the Maoists holding the country hostage to the idea of peace, is harly a reason to pat ourselves on our backs (simply because the peace process is moving along). The process itself is much like the concept of velocity (vs. speed) - we need for both the direction and rate to be defined. The flow is definitely present, the direction, the months ahead will tell.
But with large swaths of the population (quote) “waiting for the Maoists to lay down their arms to avenge 12 years of mistreatment and suppression” and asking to be armed (in the complete absence of state security, law and order), it’s hard to keep patting Girija and his clan on their backs.
What we’ve been delivered is a hope that is based on the following question: “well, what else could we have done?” - the question itself says it all. When leaders fail to produce options, the facade of success ultimately unwinds with time. What the politicians say in public, still sharply diverges from what they say behind closed doors - about the Maoists, about the process, etc. This is something to keep in mind.
The Maoists have received the last benefit on a long list of doubts since the signing of the 12 Point Agreement. With their inclusion in the interim cabinet, their luxury of opposition has ended. Now neither the Royalists, the Bahunists or the Maoists will be spared by the Nepali people.
like wagle, my family too has been the maoist victim. we’ve not been thrown out of the ancestral house like wagle but the torture, humiliation or the trauma that we underwent is nevertheless is alike. and one of our relatives was murdered by the sick maoists and a few physically impaired. yet i welcome the maoists’ coming to the power. when they say that they want to enter a competitive politics they must be given the opportunity. thats what i think.
many of the commentators here i think are never ever been affected by the maoists violence. because the bloody maoists never targeted rich and powerful living in the safe heaven in ktm (those commenting in this site are either in foreign countries and a few are in ktm). so they don’t know what is to live under the tyrannies of the terrorists. we are hoping against hope that things will improve; they will also realise their mistakes and win the heart of the people.
my guess is that most of those venting their anger against the maoists inclusion are children of those who have hitherto been sucking the nepali people for long and now that their days are numbered they are angry.
it doesn’t matter much for me whoever comes to power provided i could enjoy my fundamental rights envisaged and guaranteed by the constitution.
i am optimistic of the positive outcome of this event. may peace prevail!
wagle ji what u r trying to say is u are sacrificing your land and property for the peace of the country but what made the country… you and me ask your parent how they added all those property for your future… and not all are able to do so.. please dont write such things supporting the monoply of the maoist. let them know that what is acceptable and what is not. It is not necessary to write your personal note….
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[A personal note: I am the happiest man today! Lately I have been seeing some commentators branding me as Maoist mouthpiece or pro-Maoist which, I think, doesn’t deserve to be dignified by my response. I think I should be the one who is firmly against the Maoist induction in the government- but I am not and I have reasons for that- because just a day before yesterday my parents returned from the village after local Maoist cadres didn’t let them stay in home. Wagles had recently gone to Duragaun village of Ramechhap district to claim the property and home that always belonged to them but was captured by the Maoists for the last several years. The local Maoist cadres didn’t return them the lands, didn’t let them use their property and didn’t let them stay in the house. News reports that came from Manthali, the district headquarters, and appeared in several newspapers in Kathmandu three days ago suggested the local Maoist cadres came to my home and forced my mother to leave the home. The district leadership stated that they didn’t have the policy of not returning the properties and assured that they investigate the matter.
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it is stupid to accept those things while there are still lots of royal and rana’s property that should be nationalized.
Wagle: After all the Maoists have put your family through you are still optimistic. It’s good to be optimistic but its not good to be so optimistic that you start distorting reality and start hallucinating. What makes you think the Maoists will give your land back to you? They didn’t do it since sgining the peace accords so what makes you think they will do it now? They are even more powerful and even if they decide not to return property who is going to stand up to them and tell them they are violating their agreements? And will they care? Errr… I think not.
Julum: you are contridicting yourself. You first say that the Maoists haven’t affected KTM elites. Then you say these same people are then ones venting their frustrations against the Maoists. Get out of your wrapped thinking for a second. You think the Maoists will stop the elites from sucking on the Nepali people. You are also a fool it seems. Because I have news for you. All it means to have the Maoist join the government is that there is another worhtless, incompetant political party in Nepal. That’s all.
Choosing the one “Fools’ day” of the year to declare the interim govt. and cabinet - just fate or a deliberate act?
Anyway, it is certainly a move forward and I wish a good luck to everyone for peaceful and prosperous Nepal.
julum-respect!
There are two facts about Nepal:
1. There will always be hungry ministers
2. There will never be peace as long as there are hungry ministers who are swines.
Mr. Wagle,
The best of luck to you and your country. Your blog is a fascinating read and very inspiring.
Julum: I admire your fortitude. I respect how you are turning the other cheek. I agree this is somewhat of a positive direction. But it still remains to be seen how the Maoists will bahave in the coming months. Until then I will continue to be very skeptical. You see I have toruble understanding why the Maoists will now adhere to the peace agreements when they have clearly ignored it in the past. Clearly they see that there are no reprecussions for not following an agreement so why will they change. Please do enlighten me anyone - if you have an answer.
While I sincerely hope that the new government brings some stability and peace to Nepal I have some questions:
1. Why no posts in the government for Prachanda (Peace & Reconstruction?) or Baburam (Women, Children, Social Justice?)
2. Why is an important ministry such as Education combined with Sport (!!!)
3. Why is Agriculture ministry seperate from Soil & Forestry ministry?
The construction of this government seems designed to meet the needs of the politicians rather than the needs of the country.
Future scenario of Nepal is that an aging PM Girija will pass away soon due to health complications (No wonder he is trying to hold to Ram Chandra Poudel of NC as his back up in the new Cabinet). There will be more chaos & instability.
Guess who do you think will be the next PM? RC Poudel, MK Nepal? NO WAY. While all the dogs will be fighting for scraps, the hyena is looking from the outside & licking its chops… It will be Mr PK Dahal.
The Interim Constitution gives the PM immense power, de facto Head of State, Head of the Government etc until the CA elections is finalized & a new Constitution if formed. There is a lack of checks & balances in the interim Constitution which enable the PM do declare a republic if so desired. Hell with the CA elections.
Welcome to the dictatorship of the peasantry & the proletariat. What they could not achieve with guns, will be achieved through legal wranglings.
Jay p path. Hail to the chief.
Rest of us “kumlo bokyo dakshin tira.”
“We believe that the Maoist presence in the government will help”
who exackly do you mean by “we”. You dont mean all maoists victims are you?
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There are many intellectuals in this forum who have posted along the lines of guilty being punished. There is an air of pride in the fact that we are going to abolish Monarchy. My suggestion is that lets not be so ridiculous, shameless and hypocritical. On one hand we may have paved the way for getting rid of the king, but on the other we have rewarded the murderers and terrorists with more power. Yet we see this compromise as justice and dare to celebrate it, as if we had always viewed this outcome as the ideal one-as the victory of good over evil. There is something fundamentally wrong here. It’s unfortunate. There is a famous proverb in Hindi “sau chuha khake billi haj ko chali” that is “the cat went on a pilgrimage after hunting hundred mice”. Yeah sure, Maoists will deliver ‘free and fair’ election. I will look forward to the day when our children will be educated under the Maoist curriculum a sample of which was also published in Nepali times a couple of weeks ago.
In time of distress nothing provides greater solace than wishful thinking. So, lets carry on with masteurbation.
How about this article Wagle sir?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6515533.stm
Title- Nepal’s attention turns to King
Excerpts
1. Every new political chapter in Nepal in the past has been fraught with problems and the new chapter that began on Sunday is unlikely to be different.
2. The first question is, whether the election will be held in time or not. Only two-and-a-half months are left to prepare. And almost all deadlines agreed by the political parties so far have been missed.
3.There are also sceptics who believe the election may not happen at all due to the politically sensitive issues involved.
4. However, the largest party with the most significant political clout, the Nepali Congress, has still remained ambivalent on the issue of monarchy.
5. However, there is growing concern in some sectors that the total disappearance of monarchy in Nepal where political institutions are still weak could deepen the country’s woes.
6. Given the recent emergence of new ethnic and regional tensions, which have already claimed dozens of lives, critics say the transition to the republican set-up at this stage could be going too far too early.
7. However, many believe he still wields considerable influence within the army, which they say, has remained loyal to the King.
8. India long advocated constitutional monarchy and multi-party democracy in Nepal. However, in recent years it has maintained neutrality on the issue of monarchy.
9.As it stands, the monarchy seems to be completely sidelined but ironically it is around this institution the entire Nepali political world is revolving.
10. King Gyanendra is seen by many as a stabilising force.
(The last one below King Gyanendra’s photo)
PS- K esta article haru hamro Nepal ko public opinion shape up garne kaam ma influential hudaina? Hajur harule esto article lekhneharu ko samarthan ya birodh ma ya esko chirfaar garera kei lekhnu mildaina? bbc jasto media ma esto khal ko kasto kasto chitta nabujhne khalko article padhda malai ta jaro aauchha bhanya. Dinesh dai ko jo bichar. aru le pani lekhnu hola bhanne chahanchhu.
-Rohit
Thank Your Shekhar- and for those that think Maoist will change…HERE IS a LAW-MAKER, hehehehehehe a law maker…
KATHMANDU, April 1 - Maoist lawmaker Lokendra Bista - who hit the news headlines on February 26 for boasting during a meeting in parliament that he had a pistol in his pocket and using abusive language - did it again Saturday. This time, he vented anger on a taxi driver just outside Singha Durbar.
At around 11:00 am, Bista delivered three punches to the taxi driver outside Singha Durbar south gate. Bista became furious with the cabbie when the latter demanded a “certain amount of taxi fare”
Though the cabbie apologized after the first two punches, Bista could not resist landing another one in the face. Even earlier on February 15, police posted at Singh Durbar gate seized a pistol which Bista was trying to take into parliament with him.
Is this Freedom ? How are the Maoists any different than Gyanendra? Read below and decide. I guess Wagle and Neil are the “unbiased” journalists for the Maobadi who obviously report what is “actually happening”
DADELDHURA, April 1 - Scribes in the far-western region have recently intensified threats and actions against journalists working in the region.
Recently, local Maoist leader Bijay Sundar publicly threatened to evict all journalists of the district, one week after threatening to kill Daya Ram Pandit, a journalist working for ‘Baitadi Sandesh’, after demanding Rs 400,000 from him.
Maoist Bajura Secretary Milan had threatened to kill Pandit, who is also chairman of Bajura chapter Federation of Nepalese Journalists (FNJ) after summoning him to the party office.
According to veteran journalist of the region Chhatra Saud, Maoist threats against journalists intensified after Maoist Supremo Prachanda blamed the media of “being astray”, while visiting the region recently.
Moreover, Maoists’ blatant attack on the press was also evident when Lekhraj Bhatta, the Maoist far-western in-charge warned of “physical action” against Khem Bhandari, editor of ‘Dainik Abhiyan’.
Similarly, another group of Maoists also publicly threatened Shyam Bhatta, a reporter with Samaya weekly, at a press conference.
“This is a fresh example how much journalists in the region are intimidated by Maoists,” said Ramesh Bista, central member of FNJ and editor of ‘Loktantrik Bimarsha’.
Similarly, self-acclaimed “republican” political leaders of the region also have not lagged behind in issuing threats against journalists. According to Dil Bahadur Chhatyal, Kantipur Daily’s Doti correspondent, he was repeatedly attacked after writing a news about access for Dalits to the local Saileshwori temple.
Video- not available at websites of Neil and Wagle–
http://one.revver.com/watch/209412
I think both the “G”’s are too be blamed for the wrongs of Nepal. Both lacked poor leadership when they could change Nepal for good. So we need to root out both the devils.
If Girija had the way, he would still be the PM of Nepal from the grave.
I hate these leaders who always underestimate Public Sentiment.
Girija said once- ” I am a leader, people follow me, not the other way around” shows his true idendity. He thinks people are sheep and he is the herdsman. This attitude is predominant in all leaders, to a great extent in Girija. We know what happened to Gyanendra, and we will have to see what happens to Shree 8 Girija in the days to come.
I think this blog should stop accepting names like “deubakobau”.
“Deuba” definitely refers to Sher Bahadur Deuba, and he has already placed his name in Nepali history.
He is President of Nepali Congress (Democratic), and is ultimately going to be the president of Nepali Congress once they get united. Both parties have strong support bast in Nepal.
Its not a question of whether one likes him or not, its derogatory to use such term……..stating the name of somebody’s father in Nepali culture.
One of the things I liked about Sher Bahadur Deuba when he became a Prime Minister, is that he hails from one of the remotest areas of Nepal, and his father is an ordinary village fellow, who speaks in Dotteli.
I am bit shocked that people can even use such terms, on his father even, who must have suffered a lot because, with Sher Bahadur Deuba being the person who has spent more than 10 years in Prison due to his support for democracy, in Panchayati time.
Let us not use such terms which you would not like to be used on yourself.
Fair enough - we shouldn’t go after his father.
However, Sher Badhur Deuba deservs much much more then being called names. This moron, idiot, sorry excuse for a human being is about the most pathetic leader in the history of Nepal. You are right he has put his name down in the Nepal’s history as being the dumbass who played right into Gyanendra’s hand. In effect he bent over and handed democracy to Gyanendra on a platter.
I am not even going to mention how worthless he was as a leader. And let’s not forget how he made fun of the Maoists when back in the day when the Maoists wanted to negotiate. School children in the future will certainly have a good laugh in school learning about how idiots like Deuba was head of a political party - I just hope they realize it was a true story and not a joke.
The day the maoists implement their “revolutionary” curriculum, I am out of this country with my four years old daughter.
Pundit I am very sorry that you are so ignorant about Nepali Politics.
I can understand that some pathetic people like you can do nothing than to blame each and every leader around.
Grow up, Pundit, and get out of your keyboard and see the reality in Nepal.
Go to the rural areas of Nepal and ask them who Sher Bahadur Deuba is and you will get the answer.
We need a political leader who have got base in people, and who can go against autocrats like Girija Prasad Koirala.
Update your information and knowledge !!!!
I liked what Bijukchhe, Chitrabahadur KC and Pari Thapa said.
Also what Pashupati Shushere and SB Thapa said.
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baff re, sabai jana darsanik bhaera po ho ta desh bigreko…..
kaam chhain koi pani gardainan, kura sabai kaa meetha!
Stop Violence:
Why don’t you consider changing your name to “Stop Stupidity” ? It would definetly suit you alot better.
Look I understand you must be one of those Congressi chumchas/ Sher Badhur Chumchas but you should get off the keyboard and see this idiot for who he really is instead of gloating about his rural roots. So who the hell gives a rat’s a*ss that he came from the villages? What does that matter?
What matters is what kind of a leader he was, how he helped Nepal, what was his contribution to Nepali politics and development?
Maybe I should also ask the villagers what Sher Badhur did for them?
What do you think they would say to that?
So what kind of a leader was he? He was an indecisive weakling who contributed NOTHING to further Nepal’s development. Since you know so much about Nepali politics tell me one achievement he accomplished?
He was too much of a FOOL to see that Gyanendra was manipulating him. Let’s not forget that HE dissolved parliment on Gyanendra’s recommendation. What a fcuking idiot. Luckily his wife had some sense otherwise this fool would have definetly sold Nepal to India if the Indian PM had asked him to.
“I can understand that some pathetic people like you can do nothing than to blame each and every leader around. ”
Well what do you expect me to do when all our leaders are the ultimate slime of the Earth?
Dear everyone, wide ranging opinions, views and discussions here proves how strongly we care and feel for our country Nepal. Peace process has begun and each of us must do whatever we can to make the peace process work.
I know, the peace has eluded us in the past, and prospect of achieving it still doubtful; we nevertheless, should not quiver from wanting peace. To relentless pacifists and ardent self doubter Mr. Bhuda and othersi, please least you can do is give a benefit of doubt, and release positive energies that you have been suppressing within you. Peace is a process; if we believe in it, we can certainly acheive it. Let’s sends positive vibes, best wishes not dark, gloom and doom views and energies.
Waiba: if it helps you sleep at night we will give the Maoists the bebefit of the doubt AGAIN. Don’t forget, Waiba, that I gave them the benefit once already. I know you must think people like me are after blood, violence and carrnage but that is not true. But okay let’s give them the benefit - besides what else can we do?
That’s right, what else can we do? There isn’t much we can do except to give peace a chance as many times as needs be.
Please don’t be so hard on yourself, once or twice is never enough, How would you feel if you were only give one change to succeed in whatever you did, say example of riding a bicycle. It takes many trails and error before you can fully perfect it. I think same analogy can be applied to peace.
Ok Waiba don’t push it now. Sure we will give the Maoists a chance to prove themslves. No one is asking for much - just stick by the peace accords, control your jungalis goons and don’t carry guns into the parliment. That’s all. If the Maoists still fail to adhere to these basic rules then we should not to rule out putting the military option back on the table. We all want peace but the Nepalese people cannot just sit back and be a bunch of pacifist and allow the Maoists to walk all over us. War is sometimes a necessary evil - Don’t forget, Waiba, that it was war that ended Slavery, facisim, Nazism and Communism. Even Shri Krishna urged Arujun to fight a war. So push it, Waiba, and say we need to give peace as many times as possible.
We have become cowards. We are no longer the gorkhes we used to be. Wagle is a coward, because he can not fight for his land and he is covering his cowardice with a tone of sacrifice. It is people like wagle who discourage other Nepali people to fight for what is theirs. We hide our cowardice by sentences like, ” violence can not be a solution or we should look for a peaceful solution”. Although i agree that peaceful means are to be aimed for as much as possible but to cowardly give away all our belongings and property to the maoists out of cowardice and this simply takes away our significance as a nation. Prachanda chor le aile pani arkako gadi ma ghumi raheko cha? It is prachanda that is the parasite of this nation and the article on BBC does hold some truth. Maoists condone the indian encroachment of Nepal. Have we ever heard any maoists complain about the invasion of the indians into the nepali teritory? Did spaM complain when indian officials entered Nepal to beat up nepalis or shot them? Yes, we have all turned cowards. We are spineless. We do not deserve respect because we do not respect our selves. We have become beggars on the street. The government begs the international community to make ends meet, Maoists loot from people and if you take a closer look, every one in Nepal is asking for other people’s money (OPM). We have no pride. We don’t know what is wrong and what is right. we do not even consider killing of another innocent Nepali people as wrong. We are not affected by the suffering of others. In conclusion, we do not deserve anything good.
Just refresh my name DOA- thats how I see it.
Everest,
I have different opinion than you. So, discussing with you make no sense to me at this time. I will discuss with you about the same topic after 2 years. But don’t run from Nepal by telling it is unsafe to stay in Nepal and we have no future. I have lots of friends who are sticking on the same points like you but they left Nepal. I still ask them if you trust Girija and Prachanda who are supposed to make this country Switzerland then why you are leaving to become slave of others. It clearly means that they don’t trust internally although tries to defend them. But do you agree in one thing “whatever good and bad in future of Nepal Girija and Prachanda should take the responsibility”. Can you make guts atleast to agree this point????
Bye for now
Girija becomes a prime minister! Again! I bet there’s nobody else in the world who’s been given as many chances as Girija babu. Do a fact check and see if you can find anyone who’s been allowed to become the prime minister of any country six times. Don’t look at the number of years someone has held on to the post–that may actually be interpreted as an achievement and a proof of popular support. See if there’s any world-leader who has actually been the prime minister of his country six times. Then think about how lucky we must be to be the citizens of a country which will nominate/elect the same scoundrel to the highest office in the land that many times. And that leads on to the bigger question. A person who commits similar crimes over and over again is a recidivist. Does that mean that by committing Girija to this position , again, we have all become a nation of recidivists?
Mila or Maila,
I absolutely agree with you. It is almost funny really, that a person has been made the pm of nation six times and even funnier is that he is not popular at all. It is so stupid that it is dangerous.
Bhudai Pundit,
Thanks for proving my point that you are totally ignorant about Nepalese politics.
You state that all leaders are slimy, then who the hell do you think is running the country.
Regarding Sher Bahadur Deuba, he has lead the democratic revolution against Panchayati Regime as President of Nepal Student Union, and endured multiple years in prison when you must have been a tiny winy baby.
Its due to Deuba that Nepali Congress were able to win 18 out of 19 seats from Far Western Region.
He was the only Prime Minister who was able to control the army even at difficult times of civil war when people like Girija Prasad Koirala had to resign due to incapability to control armed forces.
His party is the first party in Nepal to include compulsory representation from Karnali Anchal and from Janajatis in the Central Committee.
It was his party, among with other six parties which did the movement against King Gyanendra due to which morons like you can freely express thmeselves.
I could write more but for an ignorant like yourself I dont think I should waste more time.
Hey Bhudai, I know people like you living in foreign land as a STUDENT supported by money earned by god-knows-what-means will do nothing else than to go after their vested interest.
So carry on Bhudai, keep on shouting against all the leaders till your relative becomes a Minister or Politcal Appointee !!!!
Keep writing, its April Anyway !!! So fools like yourself should freely express themselves !!!
Stop violence,
Stop this nonsense about deuba immediately. Enuff is enuff. The guy has been fooled by girija, he has been fooled by the maoists and has been fooled by the king twice. The bottom line my friend is that ” he is a fool”. forge about what he did before he got to power. All leaders have contributed before they have gotten to power. The real test is what they do once they are in power. What are his contributions to this nation as a prime minister or a mp?
Please don’t waste your time talking to a Congressi chumcha. He/She is a congressi chumcha for crying out loud - that should speak volumes in itslef. “Stop Violence” is probably the 5 people in Nepal who thinks Sher Badhur Deuba is a good leader. Considering that Sher Badhur Deuba’s intellect is at the level of a monkey imagine what level his followers are at. What’s really ironic about “stop violence” is that he/she thinks I am the one ignorant about Nepali politics.
“It was his party, among with other six parties which did the movement against King Gyanendra due to which morons like you can freely express thmeselves.”
Was it not him who dissolved parliment because Gyanendra asked him to in the first place? Hhahaha you think Deuba lead the movement against the King? Who the hell even takes (besides you) Deuba seriously? He is the biggest JOKE in Nepali politics. Get that into your head.
“Hey Bhudai, I know people like you living in foreign land as a STUDENT supported by money earned by god-knows-what-means will do nothing else than to go after their vested interest. ”
Oh please don’t speculate so much and debase yourself because you have run out of arguments. You don’t know where my money comes from. Not everyone gets their money like Nepali politians okay. There are alot of hardworking Nepalese in the world who earn their money legitimately with hard work. I know that must be really difficult for you to understand or believe. Besides even if I/my parents wanted to earn money using questionable methods I don’t think its possible because our political leaders have already sucked the country dry.
Oh and by the way “Stop Violence”: even if one of my relatives becomes a politians and they act like an incompetant fool who contributes nothing towards the country, hands over power to a dictator, creates the largest ineffective cabinate in the history of Nepal, makes fun of maoist insugents at a crucial time etc. then I would not hesitate for one second to critisize him/her and admit just how worthless they are.
I am not going to try and defend them and make myself look like an idiot at the same time. Too late for you I guess.
Stop Violence:
“You state that all leaders are slimy, then who the hell do you think is running the country.”
Unforutnely these ‘hungry monkeys’ otherwise called Nepali politians are running the country. Look where we are today - one of the most poorest countries in the world. Unfortunetly it doesn’t matter to the average Nepali that Sher Badhur Deuba came from the villages. That fact doesn’t put food on their table.
But one more point. I have no vested interest in saying one political leader is better then the other. I think they are just all equally bad - you asked wh
if I were to make a list of leaders. I would definetly put Sher Badhur Deuba right at the bottom!! The very bottom. I would even put MKN a point above him. That’s how useless I think Deuba is. DEAL WITH THAT!
For me its really hard to pinpoint just Deuba when 99% of all leaders are just as bad. Girija sure is the smartest but the damage he has done is the most. Also I think all politicians start well, its only when they come to responsible positions they falter. Surely Deuba was the wrong man for the job and in politics who wouldnt use someone who is such a dumbass. But then all PMs didnt do much except contribute toward to culture of corruption of all forms. Deuba was just the unlucky ass who got more than he bargained for.
Wagle & Julum - I empathise with you guys and I truly hope you get your properties back. Fortunately my family was never subjected to Maoist atrocity, which perhaps has kept my judgement free from hatred. Lets all hope for a new beginning.
Stop Violence,
Deuba is the worst politician even by Girija standard. He does not have brains nor does he have balls. He might be a nice guy but with no ethics, lack of intelligence capacity, and his laziness, and inefficiency, we have reached this stage. He is easily swayed by corrupt insiders and he does not have enough weight to stir the complicated politics of Nepal. Here is his record.
1) It was during his primiership that corruption got out of control. The tax free Pajeros for MP’s was his government’s idea.
2) He is the one who started the trading of MP’s sending 5 of them to Bangkok during no-confidence motion to save his government
3) One of the biggest blunder was when he did not even attempt to conduct local election and instead appointed local government, causing power vaccum at rural areas, which shifted power form political parties to Maoists
4) He was the prime minister when the Maoist problems started. He chose to use force rather than negotitation and we all saw the result.
5) He was the prime minister who could not hold the election and recommeneded the King to dissolve the parliament leading to King’s takeover.
6) He was naive enough to take the King’s bait for the second time just to be kicked around and humilated again.
7) Corrupts like Khume, Chrinjibi Wagle, Gacchadar (I think Khume recently moved back to Girija’s Congress) are members of Deuba’s Congress. He does not have balls to do anything or he does not have any ethical standard to think something must be done.
He might have stayed in the jail for a long time, won many seats in the western Nepal, but the bottom line is he failed to lead Nepal. Under his watch, Nepal became more corrupt and unstable. We saw him being manipulated by everyone from King to his wife, his rich Rana relatives to Chiranjibi Wagle and Khume and everyone. Compared to what went wrong during his watch, his accomplishments are miniscule. He is not a leader. He should be barred from ever holding a leadership position in Nepal.
Many Nepalese including I had a lot of hope from him over the evil Girija and the commies. But he failed miserably in every aspect. We cannot take chance with this guy again.
I agree. Deuba is worthless. He is a man utterly without any direction. At least Madhab Nepal can lay some claim to being a communist.
Deuba, what is he? A pawn, nothing more.
MKN is not a communist. he is an opportunist without brains. He has taken the uml from being the most popular party when king took over to the third largest party in Nepal. Only an idiot like MKN can do that.
Bhudai,
Who do you think modernized the arm forces of Nepal that you are bragging about? It is Deuba who equipped Nepalese Army with modern equipments, it was he who obtained Night Vision Helicopters. Why do you think Maoists gave up the civil war? Is it because they suddenly decided to be NON VIOLENT or is it because they concluded that they cannot do anything against Nepal Armed Forces.
Maybe you would consider that it was his mistake to try to reconcile King, democratic parties and the communists? However, looking at the current situation of the country, it seems as if the country would have to take the middle path that he had once preached anyway. Reconciliation seems to be the only solution for Nepal to prevent it from being the next Iraq or Somalia.
And what UML and Makune are you talking about. Makune and UML are the ones who supported Deuba in his government. Had Makune had any guts, he would have taken the post of PM himself.
Sorry guys, the country still needs the democratic middle path. So your dream of communism and armed government will always be a dream !!!
Stop Violence:
Now you are just embarrassing yourself. I don’t suppose the concept of shame really means anything to you since you are defending someone like Sher Badhur Deuba but let’s deconstruct your post for a minute.
“Who do you think modernized the arm forces of Nepal that you are bragging about?”
Are you on crack? Where have I bragged about the armed forces of Nepal? For your information the NA is in terrible need of some severe institutional reforms. You must be the most ignorant fool on the face of this planet if you think the RNA was successful in fighting against the Maoist insurgency. The RNA was an utter failure. It is an institution that is rigged with in competency and fraught with problems. 90% of the top brass are morons who are there because of their last name and nothing else. The Maoist army which was comprised of 20 year olds were whipping them. Let’s not even get into this so as to save you further embarrassment (although there is little dignity to be save at this point).
So what if Deuba bought new vision helicopters? Who THE HELL CARES you moron? You think that contributed to Nepal’s socio-political progress? You think the fact that he bought a few helicopters and received kickbacks even remotely justifies Sher Badhur’s role in Nepali politics?
You must be living in another country called Nepal. Either that or your are ingesting a certain type of mushroom that is making you hallucinate. Hehehehe you think Sher Badhur Deuba was the reason the Maoists decided to put down the weapons? Oh my God! You are NO DIFFERENT then the Maoist cadres that Prachanda has brain washed with his communist ideology. At least, from a theoretical stand point, communism is appealing. But how a person can be so THICK-HEADED to believe that Sher Badhur Deuba was a good leader is beyond me. The ONE person in the world who would still think that would be his own mother. So are you his mother? That’s about the only explanation I have.
By the way dimwit,
“Sorry guys, the country still needs the democratic middle path.”
No one is saying we don’t need a democratic middle path. What we are saying is that Sher Badhur Deuba is an idiot, worthless politian. Nepal would have been alot better off had he not entered politics in the first place.
We aren’t against democracy but we are against leaders like Deuba.
Bhudai, you are real daft. Seems like you are the one who is in high here.
I am not saying Sher Bahadur Deuba is God or the best leader in the world.
You complain of Deuba, show me one amongst the leading politicians who is better than him.
So, I regard him as the best amongst the pack who may be able to govern the country.
Where do you think are you going to bring the leaders for the country? From Bhudai’s MORON-state.
All I am saying is that amongst the leaders existing in the country, he is the most suitable. Especially amongst those who have been the Prime Minister, he is the only one who has been able to govern in co-ordination with Armed Forces, Bureaucrats and other political parties.
I doubt that some of you believe in democracy, democracy does not mean misusing the freedom of speech to call each and everybody a MORON.
Well MORON seems to be the only word that you know, and you just blamed the Nepalese Armed forces, whereas even all Maoists have publicly commented that the reason that they chose to form alliance with the political parties is because they realized that they are never going to get any significance with the armed movement.
I am surprised tha some people have such low memory !!!
So you can retort back to stating so what Sher Bahadur did this….so what military did this…….so what all of them did this………they are all morons…….just keep repeating this till you suffer from chronic depression.
Finally Wake up !!!
Stop Violence:
How many times do I need to keep spanking you before you finally concede?
Now you are changing the goal post to get out of that ridiculous argument you tried to put forth eariler. Before you were going on and on about Sher Badhur Deuba’s rural roots, his supposed reform of the RNA and his brilliant ability as a statesman. Now you have finally dropped to ‘at least he is the better of the current political leaders.’ It’s an improvement but still far off the mark.
Well given Nepal’s current political circumstances Sher Badhur Deuba would be the absolute WORST person to become the PM for the reasons listed here:
1. No one takes him seriously
2. He is too indecisive
3. He gambled away democracy once to Gyanendra already
4. He was too much of an idiot to see that Gyanendra was manipulating him. If he couldn’t even see something that obvious how is he going to be able to deal with Maoists, Madeshi situation?
5. Basically he is a weakling who commands no respect. I am no fan of Girija but at least Girija has some balls.
Hopefully you can see why your vinaju/dai/bhai/gijazu or whatever would be highly unfit for political office.
Where are we going to get political leaders you ask. Well that’s the problem we have in Nepal right now. There are no promising young political leaders in the horizon. As a nation that is our misfortune. Now this doesn’t mean we pretend that what we have is great and delude ourselves into becoming complacent. Who says I am depressed. I am not. I am merely pointing out what’s wrong. That’s the duty of a responsible citizen in a democracy. A responsible citizen doesn’t look the other way and fabricate idiotic facts to support a corrupt, worthless leaders just because they happen to be related to them.
Agree with Budhai totally. Sher Bahadur may be a nice guy among the politicians.
However, the problem is he is the most incompetent of all the politicians. I think his biggest flaw is his inability to grasp the seriouness of the issues at stake and his lack of urgency.
He became prime minister at least three times. If the only good thing to his credit is buying night vision helicopters, then it is a shame. It is not even an achievement and it is not his idea at all. RNA wanted night vision helicopters all along, and he gave an approval to buy two of them. Americans paid for them. Now, can you call rubber stamping as an achievement.
It is not that he can govern with coordination of armed force and beauracrats. The truth is he gets influenced by all the corrupt beauracrats, politicians like Chiranjibi Wagle to Khume, corrupt generals, and businessmen. How dumb could he be to allow tax free Pajeros to MP’s? How dumb of him to do nothing to prepare for both national and local elections? I still remember he was not doing any preparation to hold the elections and when the time expired, he just dissolved the House. How dumb of him to have all the corrupt ministers in his Government? How dumb of him to be kicked out of the Govt by the King not once but twice? How come he did not sense what was coming? How could he be in such an oblivion?
We all suffered a lot because of Deuba’s ineptness. Many people including I will never forgive him.
Pundit !!!
The more you speak the more you show your ignorance. So, now you are even posting comment in the name of “gm” !!!
HERE IS MY CHALLENGE TO YOU BUTTHEAD, I WAS ALWAYS REFERING TO DEUBA BEING THE BEST AMONGST THE Nepalese politicians all the time, if you think that you have got some brains then provide me the name of a single person that you suitable from amongst the current leaders.
YOU CAN EVEN GO AND NAME YOUR FAVOURITE UNCLE, AUNT, THULOBA, SANOBA AS WELL OKAY. CUMMON DO YOUR DUTY MAN, NAME THE PERSONS FUNDING YOU TO PUT COMMENTS IN THIS BLOG.
SO YOU RECKON U ARE GOING TO BRING THE LEADER FROM US !!!
Girija may be your choice, but just to refresh your memory Sher Bahadur Deuba became PM for second time because Nepalese army refused to follow orders of your baje Girija when he was PM.
Moreover, he is fully autocratic in running his handful of Chaite Congressi supporters who remain in his party !!!
If your person MAKUNE had had any balls he would have been the prime minister of this country now, however all he can do is show towards Sher Bahadur or Girija when it comes to handling responsibility.
TAKE MYADVICE PUNDIT, POLITICAL AFFAIRS IS NOT FOR INCOMPETENT KIDS LIKE YOU WHO GLORIFY GIRIJA AND MAKUNE, JUST STUDY WHAT YOU ARE STUDYING AND DONT WASTE TOO MUCH TIME ON KEYBOARD.
WELL I SEE YOUR FAVOURITE WORDS ARE “MORON” AND “SPANKING”, I BELIEVE YOU MUST BE GETTING A LOT OF THESE IN YOUR LIFE !!!
Hahahaha Stop Violence you are just so pathetic. I really pity you. It must be frustrating to go around and support Deuba since I am sure you get similar responses. Now you are accusing me of being gm? LOL. You think I am the only person in Nepal who think this way about your beloved Deuba.
Anyway I already stipulated why he would be the ABSOLUTE WORST PM for Nepal. But you haven’t bothered to actually respond to the specific points. You see people like Deuba and beneficiaries like yourself have always managed to get away without any accountability. Answer the question. Respond to the points with counter-arguments. Don’t recycle my jokes. In fact please don’t even attempt to be funny because you are too slow witted.
You want me to provide you with a single name? Once again let me ask you. Are you on crack cocain? Can you read? I just said in my post that any other leader would be better then Deuba. Do you not understand this? Go back and re-read my posts S L O W L Y.
“SO YOU RECKON U ARE GOING TO BRING THE LEADER FROM US !!!”
What does that mean? You need to wipe all that foam ozzing out of your mouth and make some sense when typing a response.
Again you are just debasing yourself. I was never glorifying Girija or MKN. Once again, dimwit, READ. I don’t where you went to school but they obvously did a terrible job on your reading/comprehension ability.
I wasn’t glorifying Girija or MKN. I was saying they are bad but they are better then Deuba. That’s how bad I think Deuba is. It’s hard to sallow that isn’t it? Yes your vinaju or whatever is an IDIOT.
Don’t tell me what to do. If I wish to come here and thrash your pathetic arguments it is my perogative. We live in a democracy in case you forgot. Yes even though Deuba tried to gift it to Gyanendra we still managed to salvage it.
And don’t call the leaders “your this your that”. I hate all of them. But the lesser amonst the evils. Now before you get mad and piss all over your pants, please spare me some courtsey and respond to the points/arguments. Because I have no interest or desire to converse with a moron like yourself. Oh and that’s not my favorite words. It just happens to come up alot when I deal with certain people.
Bhudai and the other dude, I hope Girija and Deuba are paying you significant amounts for all that labour you have performed to come up with arguments including the mudslinging that you have done on one another.
A perfect example of how youths in Nepal are being manipulated by politicians who have no ethics of politics.
Matribhumi:
Ki na puwaahkha bholnu paryo tapai lai?
Where the hell did you pop out from? Don’t come in the middle of the discussion without reading any of the posts and make a grand statement.
I wasn’t supporting Girija. My argument is simple that anyone is better qualified to lead Nepal then Sher Badhur Deuba. This clown (Stop Violence) happens to be related to Deuba so he requires no monetary compensation for his chmcha giri. Matribhumi please read the posts before making a comment that makes you look stupid. The only reason I am not lamblasting you is because you are a sensible person so I like to give you the benefit of the doubt.
HAHA,
Now you are even hallucinating that I am the relative of Deuba !!!!
Just answer one question if you have the balls, name a Nepalese leader apart from Deuba who is suitable to govern the country !!!
Ask your uncles, aunts, cousins etc for support. Hell, in fact ask all the Koirala Clan……..Girija, Sailaja, Ladija…, you definitely must be a supporter. I hope you are not related to them !!!
Matribhumi, I am just a concerned Nepalese who is worried about lack of bad leadership in Nepal, and thinks that we should pursue middle path of democracy and reconciliation.
I understand that Deuba still has some corrupt polticians in his party, and him related to a RANA is not that helpful for his image. I however, see Deuba and his party Nepali Congress (Democratic) as the only one amongst the four leading parties which might be able to bring together the completely divided country !!!
Of course, I do not support any corrupt leaders who are currently in either of the parties, Nepali Congress (Democratic) or Nepali Congress (Undemocratic) !!!
GIRIJA must give way to DEUBA…old GIRIJA must not be allowed to create a new dynasty..he really does not have time for much else…
Dear Stop Violence. Or should I just call you “Stop writing stupid sh*t”?
I understand that generations of inbreeding and alcohol abuse must have impaired your brain but you ask me again for the 100th time:
“Just answer one question if you have the balls, name a Nepalese leader apart from Deuba who is suitable to govern the country !!!”
I have said repeatedly over and over and over and over that anyone else (including Girija, MKN or anyone from the SPA) would be suitable to govern Nepal. THAT IS AN ANSWER TO YOUR question! Don’t ask the same question again because I have answered it enough times already.
Again, dimwit, I have over and over and over and over that I am not related to any politician in Nepal. I have no vested interest in seeing one leader over the other. But I just think Deuba is the absolute WORST political leader in Nepal and possibly and the planet.
Why will ask my uncles etc. for support? Support for what? You need to cut back taking crack cocain so you can make some sense once in a while.
You just spurt sentences that have no relavence. Again support for what? What are you taking about?
What’s funny is that you don’t seem to have an answer to the fact that Deuba was so easily manipulated by Gyanendra. You have no answer to the fact that he was so mentally incompetant that he was so easily fooled by the Palace. Your response is that he bought night vision goggles for the RNA.
Listen, let me give you some advice. Please just go and watch Indian idol and soap oprahs on Zee TV and leave politican discussions to us okay? It’s clearly not your strength.
Also I am done conversing with you. Deuba will never be PM again and he will go down in the history books as being the dumba@ss who played into Gyanendra’s hands. The minister who created the biggest most useless cabinate in the history of Nepal. The idiot who made fun of the Maoists and ignored them at a crucial time, who approved Pajeros for all MP’s etc.
So please continue to post posts here and everywhere and make yourself look like a fool. Please go ahead.
Bhudai Pundit,
I used to think that you are interested in Nepalese democracy, but by observing your narcistic comments…….I can see that you have an autocratic mentality and are no differnt than other bunch of your Koirala Herd.
Dont waste too much time on internet, unless you are paid by Wagle to be a Comment Moderator here or you have your own vested interest.
GO BACK TO YOUR STUDIES BOY, USE THE EASTER VACATIO TO CATCH UP. THIS BLOG IS NOT AN EXACT SAMPLE OF NEPALESE PEOPLE AND YOU WILL GAIN NOTHING HERE.
I used the “Night Vision” helicopters as examples only to refer to the fact that this had happened due to Deuba’s success in diplomacy and foreign relations.
IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO DETAILS I CAN MENTION THAT IT HAS BEEN BY DEUBA’S GOVERNMENT THAT LANDMARK ACTS HAVE BEEN PROMULGATED, WHO DO YOU THINK FORMED CIAA, WHO DO YOU THINK STARTED PROVIDING SPECIAL PROVISIONS FOR GERIATRICS, WHO DO YOU THINK WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS IN RURAL PART OF NEPAL??
LOOK AT THE STATISTICS, AND GET SOME RETROSPECTIVE DATA…….THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THINGS BETTER, BARKING HERE IN SOMEBODY ELSE’S BLOG WONT MAKE GIRIJA A BETTER MAN !!
YOU prefer Girija, who by the way, has been the sole reason for failure of democracy in Nepal. Makune, keeps following either Deuba or Girija, so I have nothing to say about this pathetic man and his fellow communists.
Well, Bhudai, you are just a kid, so go and play with your GameStation.
Last thing you can do is just check the names of leaders in “Rato Kitab”, which is the only comprehensive list of democratic leaders who have faught for democracy in Nepal, and you will be surpised to see the list of leaders that are in Nepali Congress (Democratic), only corrupt ones remain in Nepali Congress. Five Past Presidents of Nepal Bidhyarthi Sang are in Nepali Congress (Democratic) as compared to 1 or 2 in Nepali Congress. What do you make of this??
If you dont know whats “Rato Kitab”, then you must be too young, first grow up and then continue reading all the comments in this site and Mysansar for five yeaer and then you might be able to talk about politics with me.
You can keep commenting to further prove your ignorance !!
By the way, you wrote about Arju Deuba having some sense, however, I think she is still very very very new and needs to learn a lot to undeerstand ABC of politics. I heard that she is a good social worker well thats another issue.
By the way Girija will also go down as being a failure and parasite to Nepal. But Deuba’s section in this history books will be worse that’s all I am saying.
Sorry, now I will let you make a fool of yourself. Please post another comment. I can’t wait to read it.
One thing many so called democrats forget is that if you believe in democratic system, one needs to get and select leadership from amongst those choosen by people.
Its nothing but autocracy for Nepalese people to cling on to only such leader who can promote dictatorship……..and reject others who might be more fruitful.
You can see that leaders in developed countries easily give up their post, once they complete their allowed tenure, however we still have undemocratic roots due to which people still go for Girija…..or even Sujata, the lauda mastermind.
“Well, Bhudai, you are just a kid, so go and play with your GameStation”
My my my aren’t we funny and original?
Oh so now you are so desperate that your only line of defense and argument is that I am young. I wonder what you will come up with next?
Listen ‘Stop Violence’ I am far too smart for you. You have already proven that you are simply incapable of debate. You still haven’t answered by critisim of Deuba for his seer stupidity in bending over for Gyanendra and handing democracy in a platter to the Royal Palace.
Anyway it was nice reading your comments. On the subject of being young. I think the very problem in Nepal is old or “bhuda khada” political pundits like yourself. You knowing so much about Rato Kita has made Nepal the poorest country in the world. It has runied Nepal and today it is a hot bed of instability and chaos. Nice Job dimwit.
The first order of business should be to rid Nepali politics and political commentary (although yours can hardly be called commentary) of Bhuda Kada, outdate, morons like you. Your time is over. Please retire and watch who wants to be a millionaire. You have done enough harm to Nepal and the Nepalese people.
Bhudai,
You are real moron.
I am not that old but at least am aware of politics to the extent to say that you dont know anything. I stated u as kid because of your attitude not because of your age. Age wise, I might even be younger than you.
I am not a political expert or political analyst, but know people that they are just phoneys and fake by litenign to them.
And you are definitely one of these phoneys.
It was statement made by jealous people like Sailaja that Deuba handed this and that to Palace.
Deuba has been the one who has been victimized the most by Palace, how can you say that he handed it !!
Go on keep commenting to show your political ignorance.
Stop Violence:
You have your head so far up Deuba’s chaak that you have lost all prespective.
You think because Sailaja said that Deuba handed power we beleive it. Heck no.
We all know that Deuba dissolved parliment on the recommendation of Gyanendra. On the recommendation. How much of an idiot do you have to be to do something like that?
Now don’t try to solicit sympathy by saying Deuba was a victim of Palace conspiracy. Deuba is an idiot to being with and he has no balls to stand up to the King. That’s why the Palace played him like a fool. For the King it was like taking candy away from a baby. And despite this record you think Deuba would be suitable to lead Nepal given the even more complex situations that have cropped up? What if Deuba handed all powers to Prachanda based on Prachanda’s recommendation?
Anyway I give up. There is no point debating these issues while the Maoists are running the country into the ground. As much as I loth Sher Badhur Deuba I would still rather have him come to power then Prachanda or Baburam. Right now the Maoists are calling all the shots and that should be of greatest concern to all of us.
Bhudai,
I think you finally got the point here is saying that you would rather prefer Deuba coming to power rather than some violenence seeking crazy leaders.
Its pathetic that we dont have fool-proof leaders, however, lets also accept the fact that we have to select from the ones who are politicians, and thus Deuba comes as right person for me.
I however appreciate your prompt response to comments. Keep commenting as I might not be checking net during Easter Break. Need to live my life as well man !!! Hope you do the same !! Happy Holidays !!!
Fair enough. Let’s leave this issues at that. It’s been a good debate.
I hope you don’t take some of the stuff I have said personally. It’s just a heat of the moment thing - nothing personal.
Have a blessed easter.
I am a Royalist because I am anti-Maoist. I definitely support the MJF for what they are doing in challenging these goons.
It must be a sad day for people in the Nepal Army who devoted their lives in serving the country and the powers with their lives in threat for 13 years. Now they have to salute the same “goons and thugs” that killed their fellow brothers.
A very sad day indeed.
Long Live the Nepalese Army, the soldiers who are the real Martyrs.
This is a crutial time for Nepal. Every political party should ready to hold constituent Assembly.