General Strike Day XVII
By Deepak Adhikari
Sea of Humanity:
Afternoon Updates:
As the rain stopped, state has cut off the mobile phone lines. But, Mero Mobile is still working. The state has again resorted back to brutality. In Kalanki, security forces opened fire at few protesters. Similarly, in Thapathali and Tripureshor area, gunshots were heard. At least three people could have been killed, eye witnesses say. The state may cut off the landlines as well. This shows that the king is not stepping back but using his force to suppress the movement.
Meanwhile, SPA’s meeting which concluded at 3 pm, decided that they won’t accept king’s proposal. They have come up with three-point-solutions: (1) Revival of Parliament (2) All party government and (3) Election of Constituent Assembly. SPA has stressed in 12 point agreement. They have reiterated their agreement with the Maoists. After the meeting, former PM Sher Bahadur Deuba commented :”I was then appointed PM using Article 35. Now also the same article is used. So, king’s intention is incorrect.”
SPA leaders’ univocal stance has given impetus to the ongoing movement.
The Royal Proclamation has not deterred people from showing what people’s power can do. I took a walk from Ghattekulo to Tinkune. In Ghattekulo, my residence lies in the ghetto. There too few youngsters were chanting slogans as I emerged out of my room. When I arrived near Dhobikhola bridge, another group of people from Naya Baneshor height came chanting slogans.
I saw one of my journo friend chanting slogans. He asked me to join the protests but I cited the impending curfew. But, in fact I didn’t want to blurr my professional life with that of an activist. I thought, I am better off with blogging about what’s happeing around the city.
In Anamnagar Chowk, few bikes and a number of antenna swaying sleek UN vehicles were on the road. When I reached the Hanumanthan junction, I remembered how while returning from office at midnight yesterday, I was forced to take another route to my room. A barrier was
placed there, but the security forces were absent. Yesterday, I was able to go to my room after three days stay at office.
Then, in Babarmahal, the agitation was heightened. A hoarding board with king’s message was demolished and placed in the middle of the road. In the other side of the road, an icecream vendor was selling icecream to a kid. A bit ahead towards Naya Baneshor, few protesters were cutting a roadside tree. They were almost done, but I could not wait to see that crumble.
I met our photo blogger Bikas Karki himself driving Kantipur van in Babarmahal. He told me he was off to fetch curfew pass.
In front of Everest Hotel, somke emanating from tyres was engulfing the sky above.
A motocyclist was chased away. An angry lady protester remarked : Hamro pani ta bike Chha ni! (We too have vehicle). Protesters were asking for petrol with the motorcyclists.
In Baneshor Chowk, police men asked people to move towards their home. But, they seemed unaware that the road just below was taken control by protesters. Bricks are scattered all over the road from Baneshor to Tinkune. As I write this, I can hear the yelling, whistlings and sloganeering coming from the streets.
At the moment, SPA leaders are holding meeting to respond king’s address. But, the common people are overwhelmingly demanding the end of monarchy. Security forces are seen waving hands to the protesters. They don’t seem in the mood of attacking the peaceful protests. The mood of protesters too is peaceful, for they hardly pelt stones. Waving flags, inviting people to join them, accepting the sprinkling of water as a solace have been their way of protests in recent days. As I write this blog, the curfew has already sarted but like yesterday, protesters have successfully defied it.
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The king is extending an olive branch, the SPA should grab it. I don’t understand what all the fuss is about. All I want is stability, I don’t give a rat’s ass who is in power. The king’s proclamationis the quickest exit to this deadlock, take it!
THE HINDU IN INDIA WRITES:It’s nice and readworthy Article.
Opinion - News Analysis
In Nepal, the beginning of the end
Siddharth Varadarajan
People power has forced Gyanendra to cede executive power. But only a democratically elected Constituent Assembly can bring the people true sovereignty.
IN THE fullness of time, King Gyanendra — like other monarchs and ex-monarchs who litter the pages of history — will also realise that revolutions have a horology of their own and do not respect the neat rhythms that kings and generals try to impose on them.
For more than a year, the people of Nepal have been demanding that King Gyanendra end his illegal seizure of power and return executive authority to an elected government. After first subverting the Nepalese Parliament in 2002, Gyanendra staged a putsch-within-a-coup on February 1, 2005, arrogating all powers to himself and declaring an end to even the `three-fifths democracy’ that the 1990 Constitution embodied. But today, when the moment finally arrived for the monarch grumpily to announce his surrender on national television, the relentless clock of popular expectation and revolt could well end up robbing this kingly concession of its power to send the masses back into their homes.
Monumental folly
Today, the genie of constitutional change is out of the bottle, liberated from its confines by a monumental act of folly on the part of the King. From here, it will not be easy for either Gyanendra or the parties or the people who have come on the streets to merely return to the status quo ante as it prevailed on February 1, 2005.
The Ancient Greeks had a term to describe Gyanendra’s sickness — akrasia, or the state of acting against one’s better interests. Socrates saw akrasia as the manifestation of ignorance, Aristotle of weakness. In both cases, full-fledged reason is overwhelmed by impetuosity and bathos, qualities the Nepalese monarch surely possesses in abundance.
Four years ago, when he embarked on his misadventure, the demand for a Constituent Assembly was largely confined to the Maoists and to the student wings of the Nepali Congress and UML parties. If at all the subject came up for discussion in “polite company,” advocates for constitutional change were quick to add apologetically that any elected assembly need not necessarily be empowered to do away with the system of monarchy itself. What Gyanendra has done is turn the slogan for a Constituent Assembly into a democratic totem for the majority of his people. Most Nepalese today correctly consider constitutional change as essential to strengthen popular sovereignty, institute democratic control over the armed forces, and achieve a fairer deal for the country’s diverse and unequal ethnic groups, for the janajatis and the Dalits. Above all, a new and genuinely democratic and inconclusive Constitution will allow Nepal to transcend the violence and bloodshed that has marred the better part of the past decade. It will offer the prospects for a new and more just social compact in which there will be no room for insurgency and counter-insurgency.
It took one maharaja who no longer has a kingdom — Karan Singh — to rekindle the fading instincts for self-preservation in Gyanendra that hubris had all but extinguished. Each hour of every passing day was pushing the kingdom closer and closer to that crucial point at which kings and ex-kings, politicians and army chiefs suddenly discover they no longer have the capacity to control or even influence the flow of events. General Pyar Jung Thapa could always be counted upon to order his men to open fire on the gathering thousands but his soldiers’ fingers may have baulked at traversing those crucial few inches that stand between mutiny and genocide. India and the United States knew that time had already run out. And that a delay of even one more day would have meant there would be nobody out there to accept an offer of compromise from Gyanendra.
In the event, the King has stepped back from the edge but it is not clear his opponents are ready to accept the wares he is holding out. Gyanendra will not admit it but the whole of Nepal and the world already knows that he has lost his kingdom. Is his offer of returning executive power to the Seven Party Alliance (SPA) on behalf of the people under Article 35 of the Constitution, then, an admission on his part that the old order is over? The old order with all its constitutional ambiguities that allowed not just his palace putsch but also his unquestioned (and very disastrous) leadership over the army? Clearly not, since the text of the King’s televised speech makes explicit reference to the need for the country to be governed in accordance with “the Constitution of the Kingdom of Nepal, 1990.” All Gyanendra is offering, really, is a quick turn of the clock back to February 2005.
As the seven-party alliance ponders over its next move, its leaders should resist the temptation to give up the popular leverage that has made this remarkable turn of events possible.
Any acceptance of the King’s latest offer must be prefaced by a clear and transparent statement of purpose that respects the sentiments of the Nepalese people for fundamental constitutional change and a negotiated end to the Maoist insurgency in the country. It must also respect the basic principles of the two understandings reached between the SPA and the Maoists in November 2005 and March 2006.
The modalities of a transitional government, including the revival of parliament, the nature of the negotiations with the Maoists, and the manner in which a Constituent Assembly is to be elected, can all be worked out once the SPA takes charge, but this goal can and must be explicitly spelt out by the alliance leadership if the unprecedented popular uprising of the past few weeks is to have any meaning at all. In addition, the SPA must announce that their first act in power will be the release of all political prisoners, the scrapping of the draconian Terrorism and Disruptive Activities Ordinance (TADO), and the laws restricting media freedom. The SPA must also stress its understanding that the assumption of executive power includes taking charge of the Royal Nepal Army and that if at all there is any ambiguity, all the more reason to push for constitutional changes at the earliest possible opportunity.
At stake is not just popular sentiment but the parties’ own need for some guarantee against King Gyanendra making another grab for power once he feels the heat is off. Revolutions done in half-measure inevitably fail. The parties must learn well the lessons of Nepal’s recent history and not rest till the Nepalese people have wrested true sovereignty for themselves.
frankly kg must be ousted. nothing less should satisfy the bllod of 14 martyrs. this bloody maniac should go. if we miss the opportunity now the cost of nepali blood would be much bigger.
what good the KG can bring to Nepal for me nothing. From now on will there be any respect to this guy of nepalese people i doubt so. Monarchy for Nepal should be the thing of the past.
Longlive Loktantra!
If you want to get rid of Paras and Gyanendra, nepal’s true enemies, this is the time to push them off the cliff.
The Fact
.Death Doll at kalanki is 20.
.king has been backed by USA and India for further movement
.RNA used Helicopter to shoot at protester
Let’s not forget the other historically autocratic regime on the sideline - Maoism. Nepali people have now made it clear their feeling about autocracy … any autocracy. Maoists will also do well to take note now.
millions of people, people from all walk of life. well done. they have said what they wanted. its tremendous public support. one can not expect more than that. UWB team still counting the day of general strike. now i do not understand what you guys are looking for and do not know what SPA leaders expect more from people. they have all the mandate from people and from major international power players. with this kind of support they must be able to go through any agenda they like, even constituent assembly. if they still feel insecured then what even with such support and mandate then what can one thinks of them. may be they are afraid of maoists.
what i am scared is that as SPA–weakest among the three player–is still nowhere and if they failed to maneuvour this movement it is highly probable that maoists will hijack it and tehen what happen next is only god knows.
regarding the maoists agenda is not addressed by king, well remember that SPA has said before they will bring them to main stream. now its time to take some responsibility for themselve.
well people i live near New Road, there is big protest rally on indrachowk, it said that they are coming from gongabu and ready to attack palace, man this is going to be a big show.
i can hear the roar of people. it is said that there are about two hundred thousands in that rally. now only god will save this king.
thanks mk, please keep on posting.
i am in hongkong, so this blog is the only way , by which i can imagine what might be going there.
thnaks again
oh my!
surrounding the palace! Nepalese history is going to be straightended which is long overdue.
Long live democracy. Wish Ganeshman were here!
I transmit and translate the news from UWB! live in France. Please go on!
In this momentum my heart is with you all !
Loktantra is coming.
I also thank MK.
Pls keep posting.
This blog is the only quickest way to get updated. I am wake all night. I cannot get sleepy though it is 4 am here.
hey guys
I am near Indrachowk. Prosters are going from Indrachowk to Ason. There were lots of people.
I think they are not allowed to go further.
I can see end of the crowd near Ason.
I watched the faces of protesters. I couldn’t see people from vally out there. They are from out side Kathmandu. I smell blood. I clearly believe there are some maoists out there.
We all should be careful now.
i called someone in Ason, and he said there is some violence already at Bhotahity–very near to palace about 200 m–with security personnel fire tear gas and he said he heard some gun shot too.
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-Himal
We, common nepali, are at the crossroads of history.we need to decide right now: not to have active monarcy who enjoy and squanderd our hardearned money and rape our democratic sentiments. so, march ahead to naraynhiti and pave way for new nepal.
Update
At thapathali,
2 were dead at 2:45 when army suddenly fired.
At tripureshwor,
2 were dead at 2:45 when army suddenly fired.
more than 4 ambulance is used to carry injured protestor
CNN has confirmed that moaists slogans are being chanted. Someone better do something before it gets out of hand.
OK guys Latest News from ASON
Police tried to stop protesters in ason, they couldn’t in Bhotahity launched multiple no. of tear gas. So there was running of the crowd i hear some people were crushed by other protesters. People living in bhotahity and ason is having really a nightmare due to tear gas.
Protesters are already scattered and going in different directions. It started to rain heavily out here in ason, indrachowk.
Lets be careful now. I believe there are Maoists in the Crowd.
ilive in new road, i can confirm that the rally is coming from Bhedasingh near Indrachowk and heading toward Ason.
i guess it is not too late to decide something soon–by SPA leaders and king–before maoists overtake the whole show. god bless nepali people.
Great!!!!
No matter wo does it,maoist or SPA, i just want that KG hanged.
Be care ful guys that reporter for CNN a fcking indian. Dont believe every thing that son of biach says.
I’ve heard that there is major maoist infiltration. I dont know what the outcome will be. Maybe the city dwellers should step out of their homes and take over so that the maoists do not.
There is less presence of SPA activists in the crowds. I think the curfew should be called off immediately, so that the KTM residence can come out and the protests dont get out of hand.
first let this gyaney be out of the country and then we’ll think about what to do with maoists and
all oldies like girija.
now its weather’s turn, its rainning heavily. i heard that protest rally at the Indrachwok, Bhedasingh, Bangemuda has been despersed.
oh! Mr rain not today.i like to see paras and gyaney on the street.
the protest is going out of hand.it is in control of no one.This is not going in right diretion as they are destryoing public property.police have surrounded the public offices.
I don’t think maoists with arms try to infiltrate. They can come if they agree with peaceful protest
with arms or without, democrats cannot let them take the momentum. Arms are ready for the grabbing with the security forces in the path of the demonstrators.
Listen, we know where the King stands and where the SPA stand and where we the people stand, but what is the moaist game? Has anyone heard from them lately? It’s all very dangerous.
protestors are entering random peoples houses, firing has resumed near the supreme court.
god, this is waht maoist were planning for.i am really starting to get afraid now.u r right scoop they were playing the waiting games and now it’s their chance to cash in.they r making full use of it,
Gyanendra has offered too little too late. He is bargaining like a cunning businessman. His announcement smells conspiracy. On one hand he asks the name of a PM and in other hand he announces curfew, puts leaders (JN khanal and BD Gautam)in prison. Many leaders and activists are still on prison. Do not trust him, do not give him the benefit of doubt. He has betrayed us and he will deceive us again.
SPA should calm down the crowd if,
1. he releases all political prisoners,
2. disowns army and security forces,
3. gives all the power to the following govermnet to negotiate with the maoist, and
4. let people decide on Monarchy
Maoists are Opportunist
They cannot be trusted in this situation anyhow.
KTM VALLY will not accept Maoists.
just got another news.SPA are meeting again and has given 24 hrs ultimatum to Gyane if not they are planning to make samanantar sarkar.what is samanantar?
Maoists, King and SPA all are opportunist
all are now part of our life,
all need a second chance
none of them should be abolished
only if they jointly work, we can have peace and prosperity
Mr.Hindu from India, get outta here. We hindus in nepal don’t pride ourselves as a hindu but as only as a nepali.And mind you, it was not karan singh or Maran singh’s visit that made the king handover the power to the people .It is the mass out in the street that did. And save us your analysis.This is not your exam paper.
SPA should come to agreement with King now this is too much going on. Why are they treating maoists like their “brother in law(jwai)” as if they can be trusted.
Maoists are playing with SPA. They are in valley with large numbers.
Just form a new govt and go for a peace talk.
Where are the politcal parties? No reaction at all!
The brave Nepali people is in the streets and like to go to the palace. GO ON AND DON’T BE AFRAID!
We all are waiting for an official declaration from the SPA and what they are doing? The have learned nothing? Talking, talking ans not making any adequate decision?
Look out Nepal! Maybe the Maoist going into this gap and try to reach their skills.
Where are the leaders? They has to be in the front NOW!
Dear Nepalis, go on and don’t stop your movement for a free and democratic Nepal so you can live without fear and build up a peacefull life.
This today is RISING NEPAL! (not the newspaper)
People, this has gone beyond the grip of the SPA.They are even chanting ” prachanda jindabad”. So much for your “Loktantra”.By the way did you know that this word has been imported from India and holds the same meaning as prajatantra?
SPA in the hands of Prachanda now. This is just awesome
may God give wishdom to all Nepali on and off street
last thing we wanted to hear was pracahnda jindabad…..
yes mofkrs if u were not satisfied by the king who was defeated and accpeted his defeat reaclling to form an interim govt…… fk hell yeah…. prachanda jindabad….. lau khau rani ko ban haary prajantantra….
bhok pani bhudi ma atney jati lagnu parcha…bhdui futney bhok lagey pachi yestai ho…. hell yeah prachanda jindabad.
Finally the SPA givces declaration. They don’t accept the so called “Royal”proclamation.
Now, leaders of SPA, go on the street with your people and fight until the “king” gives full power to the people and step down as a ceremonial king or going in excile!
More will die if common sense do not prevail. Even the gods have spoken and has brought down rain and hail to disperse the crowds. Lord Pashupati Nath has spoken. All you godless communist heathens and psuedo-democrats go home and think about the betterment of your country not self gratification!
let’s welcome Decocratic Peoples Republic of NEPAL.
NEPAL: The only Maoist republic to be formed in the 21st century.
Mobile in Kathmandu is down
Nepalese are committing a biggest mistake in the history by rejecting the King’s offer. He could have been handicapped thro’ peaceful process slowly, but the street is ruling…,what is the end,…, we all know,..
US, India, Canada, EU, has welcomed the proclamation of the king. They don’t understand the real situation!
We, in Nepal, don’t want this men anymore.
The US has to make his helicopter ready to take off with the whole family who ruined Nepal.
Same they did with Mr. Marcos of the Fillipines.
Army I call you to unite with your people and put your arms in a cubboard and put off your battle dress and demonstrate against your so called king!
The king has a point.The parties just don’t have a road map.They arouse the crowd and now they don’t know where to go from here.They can’t and will not accept the king’s offer coz the Maoists will not allow them to.
Seshyan Nepal,
I don’t believe the situation is as you say.
I agree that also I suspect that the SPA has no roadmap but I don’t believe the Maos managing them.
The SPA has now to sit togethr and give the people their agenda. If the people see the agenda they will have more convidence in them.
Now the people are only in the street to gat the king out but I bet that a lot of them don’t understand the real situation.
I pray that the Maos will do what they declared before and goin into the political mainstream. Give up violence and give the people what they want: A democratic and peacefull live!
I think that they will win a lot more by what I’m saying. Going on with a Maoist State will create the same situation as we have now sooner or later.
They can see now what a peoples movement can do. No bullets will stop a peoples movement.
seven political parties with maoists should form the government and give the date for election.
OMG.. are there any updates on the protest situations? im in canada.. its 4 am and this blog has been the only source of info for the moment..
An inside scoop from an insider;
1. The Shah family women have signed up a highly lucrative deal with an
Amercan company specialising in slimming equipment. Though details of the
contract were not available immediately, it runs into millions and was
brokered by the US ambassador to Nepal while playing golf with Crown Prine
Paras. It’s a before-and-after ad, showing Mrs Komal Shah in the first
visual, where she weighs 200kg. Then she uses the slimming aid and is
transformed into Himani.
2. Gyanendra Shah has been signed up by Penguin publishing company to write
two how-to books: How to do a palace massacre in 18 easy steps and How to do
a coup in four years.
3. Raj Bahadur Singh has been hired at $10000000,0000 per month to help the
US government in their war on terrorism. Next year, President Bush plans to
attack Iran. To facilitate the entry of American troops by jamming Iran’s
communications system, Singh would be posted there to start a mobile phone
service that would throw all other communications links out of gear. It is
thought that Ambassador MOriarty brokered this deal too but his office was
not available for immediate comments.
4. Steven Spielberg is offering Gyanendra Shah the lead role for his new
movie, Nero fiddled while Nepal burned. The competition was quite stiff.
Kofi Annan, Indian PM Dr Manmohan Singh and the ubiquitous Bush had also
lined up for the coveted role. However, Shah finally clinched the deal
thanks to his able son Paras, who followed Spielberg to the nearest
all-night disco, broke his arm and fired shots at him. According to highly
placed sources, the father-son pair are now pressuring Spielberg to ask Dev
Anand to co-direct and create a character, Nero’s twin brother, who would be
played by Paras.
hey ncix … i dont know from where u get all those stupid infos. u wrote that helicopter was used in kalanki to fire at protestors…bullshit man.. i m there…that helicopter came to giver order not to fire…and secondly 20 people didnt die in kalanki…it is around 9….where do u get all those crappy infos. from??….
talking about KG’s proclamation…it was good but incomplete….but since the int’l community has welcomed it the situation in nepal seems to be bad…now they seem to be backing the king and its really bad for the people of nepal…..now on thousands will get killed during protests…and whoz gonna take responsibility for that?…and another thing is that the parties do not seem to be doing anything for the 14 dead people….they should do something for them…only putting a garland in their photo and calling martyr is not enough….is the life of people so cheap???/….they should even try helping the family of the deceased financially and other helps if possible…and finally they should try to fulfill people’s aspirations…then only the death of those people will be worthy….
yes, most people don’t understand the real situation. And the situation is that the SPA has made a pact with the maoists and if the parties back out and accept the kings offer which is less than what the maoiss want.The maoist will personally shoot the leaders.That’s the real situation guys.
If only we could put the same kinda pressure on the maoists - to give up arms and rule peacefully hand in hand with the parties.All would be well.But that’s a far cry from what I see right now.
An active Monarch is out dated so is Maoism / Marxism / Leninism / Leninism / Socialism
who you will trust foolish Maoists or a cleaver King
cleaver and cunning is better then foolish Maoists
Ashees,
I totally agreed with your opinion!
Let the Maos going into the polical mainstream and let them give prove of their peacefull intencions after so many death people.
This is the peoples war thet they always say to fight for.
the people on street should cry for dialog between SPA, King and Maoist. Trust me that’s the only way out.
i agree
without the maoists coming into the mainstream.. they are a threat to democracy .. and they definitely seem to have some leverage in the SPA situation..
i never dreamed a day like this wud come in the history of nepal
seven political parties with maoists should form the government and give the date for election, make prachand the new PM, i don’t mind
Sorry, the king has to go out now! It is to late for him!
So, we have only the option for a good understatement between the people, SPA and the Maos.
If that will be true, the country will have peace and a better sight on a good future with food for everyone.
Let we pray for that!
foreigner in Nepal - This is not a time to pour personal vengeance.You hate the king, some hate that bast**d Giddha Prasad koirala and some despise prachanda for his cadres raping and killing little girls in front of their old grand father. We need to talk about and work on the future of Nepal.That should be the goal of all nepalese.
Seshyan Nepal,
I’m agree with you. We have to talk all together: the people, the SPA and the Maos.
I didn’t talk about personal vengeance against the king and I didn’t talk about vengeance against the Maos or Koirala.
But we have to remember what the king gives to Nepal (chaos) and we have to remember what Mr. Koirala and his succesors has given to Nepal (confiusing democraty) and we have to remember what the Maos has given to us (killings, abduction, chaos, etc..
W can forgive them unless they recognize their mistakes and goin real in the way of serving the Nepali people in a democratic way.
I am with the Nepali people and try to give an objective view and believe me this is really difficult because the situation is very difficult.
If we have to deal with two parties, it will be more easy to resolve problems but we all heve to deal with three parties and that is more complecated.
I’m fully agree with you that all Nepali people has to talk and work on the future of Nepal.
I hope and pray that this blog will help the political parties and the Maos to get a good view of what the people like.
Maybe we can give them guidelines how to reslove the situation?
I’m a foreigner who is working for three years in Nepal and I feel myself as a Nepali. I like your country and I am trying to understand the situation and shal and will working with you all to create a good future for us all.
But, in fact I didn’t want to blurr my professional life with that of an activist. I thought, I am better off with blogging about what’s happeing around the city.
Mr Adhikari !
Do all the people participated in the mass movement are political activist and only you remained as pure professional ? Do not all walk of life’s people are participated the movement like peasants, farmers, carpenter (martyr Ghimire), taxi driver. Do only journalists like you are professional?
Now SPA has given 24 hours ultimatum to the King to reinstate parliament. If does not do that nepales peole will have to suffer and we asking for lives to be laid down. I think Girirja and company may be thinking to declare the elections of CA from the parliament.Whether maoists would come to join the Interim Govt. under any SPA leader ? This is another trillion dollar question.
May Lord Pashupatinath give blessings to all Nepalese.
don’t kid yourself Ms.or Mr.Nepali foreigner.This blog is just a speck in the ocean where most of the bloggers aren’t even here in Nepal.
Mero ghar ko puppy ra GyanJi ko kasto milyo joda
Bannechainau kohi pani aba Bideshi ko Ghoda
Hamro Jyan Murda Hoina jo Rubber ko Goli sahera basna sakchha
Jutisakyau Hami Nepali bato rokne Jo Kohi lai Bagauna sakchha
Mind starves for peace and blood seeks freedom
All we seek is a republic give him a DAMN
more poems can be available on request
Can any body have very new information on What actualyy going on there around the palace now?
BPCg,
I don’t mean to say that those who are participating in the movement shoould not do that. I’ve been reporting to you that people of all walks of life have participated in this movement. Don’t strech my point, read it in context. Would I’ve been going with the procession, I wouldn’t have been able to updated the blog.
Parallel Government eagerly awaited!
Hey Seshyan Nepal,
What are you talking about now?
I am living in Nepal now for three years and I am saving children from the bad life that you Nepali people giving them.
What are you talking about?
Don’t make me angry because I try to help your people.
But are only one and a lot of people are thenking me for what I am doing for the children of Nepal.
As you going like this I will not reply to your stupid opion.
Bye bye
be aware of response1.. its guys like him who brings instability in the country instead of working together for the unity..even if the SPA work together with king he wont be satisfied till the king starts his helicopter..drop a bomb on response1’s home b4 u leave KG
In my view, the situation is getting out of hand. The way the street is turning violent, it looks like the SPA is not capable to control it, it does look the maoists are involved.
Though we can say, the king cannot be trusted, still there is chance for the SPA to form government and reduce the powers of the king by votes of majority in the parliament later on.
Better wake up to reality, and try to voice something you want to say before it is too late.
Shameful and Pitiful…A humiliating show of middle class madnes based on little or no knowledge and rise of high sentiments aroused by absoulte prejudice on the assesment of the current situation. Some of you think the king should stay coz he is the reason Nepal exist…some of you think these people are bought off in money…some of you think most of these people are maoist…and so on..This is an absolute lack of respect to the masses who are doing this revolution for us…They are dying for us and you are searching words to brand them in the way you wish too…You think maoist can come in the vaccum…well then god help your thinking…positive or negative….aren’t u seeing that Nepalese people want no form of autocracy…and do you think it is possible to rule by guns in this country with these neighbours?? And what gun are we talking about…KG 200,000 or so forces couldn’t stop the people and you guys are thinking prachanda’s around 40,000(this is the highest estimation so far) forces can stop people?? And besides maoist is a group filled with many many kinds of people…and their army is also very weak….and you think they can stop?? The way some of you are showing fear shows how patheticly afraid you are with some guns..Be brave my friends…No one can impose any kind of autocracy upon us….And to the guys of inner ktm or downtown ktm…if you think really that the maoist have come..well let them come…but you also must come…so that you can control them and do not let them do what they wish…not stay indoors with fear….comon….this is the time of judgement now…IF WE LET OUR PATHETIC FEAR RULE US….AGAIN SOME AUTOCRACT WILL RULE US…..SO PRAISE THE PEOPLE AND BE THE PART OF THE PEOPLE IF YOU WANT THE RULE OF THE PEOPLE…OTHERWISE STAY INSIDE IN THE CURFEW AND AS YOU WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO…HATCH YOUR OWN GAME PLAN ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN NEXT….the choice is ures
Comment No.40 is like this, ” Seshyan Nepal says:
April 22nd, 2006 at 3:57 pm
Mr.Hindu from India, get outta here. We hindus in nepal don’t pride ourselves as a hindu but as only as a nepali.And mind you, it was not karan singh or Maran singh’s visit that made the king handover the power to the people .It is the mass out in the street that did. And save us your analysis.This is not your exam paper.”
If it is directed to me(comment No.2), then
Please Read fully wat is written in Comment no. 2, I am not advocating any karan Singh’s proposal. and neither does that article do………
I think U understood it in a wrong way, Read it again.
Some analysis for discussion:
1)Scenario-1: Agree with KG’s offer: This would mean that isolating maoists which would create more caos and hardship as maoists have guns and control a lot of Nepal. This option would be disastrous. In this case it is a matter of time before maoists will be in power.
2) Scenario-2: Oust KG now: I see that if KG is ousted now SPA can claim that a bloody autocrat like KG can be thrown out with people power not by guns and therefore there is a hope that the best party would be able to govern the soverenty of Nepal. I believe that both majority of Nepalese and International community are looking for this option.
3) Giant neighbour factor: Although I was convinced earlier that a constitutional monarch would be good for Nepal, I really feel now that monarchy is not necessary. What for! The objective of neutrality between giant neighbours vis-a vis the king and therefore serving better interest of Nepal was in my earlier thinking. I very much feel that Nepal exists because she gives much needed security buffer for both the neighbours and therefore has strategic value by and large. No point talking about India or China card in the macro sense. Of course in the micro sense infuence in politics is obvious. Being republic at this time means a lot. Especially to bring the Maoists in the group. We like it or not without them Nepal is doomed. I also feel that if these maoists have some brain and love towards Nepal then they should come to the election in the republic Nepal without guns. I do not know much about Prachanda but the brain of Baburam is well known. If used in the right direction he may be able to do wonder to our homeland. I am also hoping that there are quite a bunch Bhadkeka Nepalese brains out there.
Soooooo the choice is obvious. Republic of Nepal Jindabaad. My soul and heart for all of you and those fighting for the good cause.
stop the analysis here. what is going on on the ground? those of us who are following this from around the world get most of our on the spot news from this blog!! please, someone, anyone, out there…where are the protestors now? have they reached the palace? does anyone have any sense of the on the ground situation?
PLEASE! NEPALESE AT HOME AND ABROAD AND FOREIGNERS AROUND THE WORLD WHO LOVE NEPAL NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON! WE HAVE FAMILY AND LOVED ONES THERE!!
Why should not we believe king?
Because there is no committment to multi-party democracy except lip service.
Does we want any power to give to the king so that he can take away executive power whenever he wants?
No we do not want that. If we accept current proposal, we do not get right but get privileges of king which can be confiscated at any time based on his(monarch’s) subjective satisfaction. We do not want to give any power to the king that he excercises based on his whims and caprices.
From Asoj 18, when Deuba was removed first what he achieved by appointing different Prime Ministers?
Anything ? No. Except bloodshed. That means he is even more incompetent than Deuba if we have to use his own logic.
Do we want incompetent King?
No we do not want at all.
What we want? Republic state. why?
Coz again our sovereignity will not be lost. It will not go on the hand of any dictator any more.
Sparsha in comment 80 says, “I very much feel that Nepal exists because she gives much needed security buffer for both the neighbours and therefore has strategic value by and large. No point talking about India or China card in the macro sense. Of course in the micro sense infuence in politics is obvious.”
I think this point will not be valid any more coz India and china itself are moving very close to each other now a days guided by their economic interests. They know that grabbing land is not so important as compared to investment in technology. So, the emergence of political economy in new shape has reduced the significance of political strategy. King G or anyone’s china or India card will fail after some months, if given to continuity coz they (C & I) do not want to annoy each other.
when life hands you a lemon, break out the tequila and the salt !
KG has given u the lemon,now form the damn assembly and let us go back to our office..yo mahina ko talab na paula vanera tension vai sakyo
neta haru ko po unlimited bank account cha..hami ta harek din kaam garera khanu parcha
make mine a margarita…or a good stiff whisky on the rocks! or a new cocktail, “the royal massacre” (gyanendra’s favorite cocktail, so I hear) or how about “royal pain in the butt”…we are all gonna have one big hangover when this is all done…
still no answer to my question: what the FUCK is going on on the ground in Kathmandu now! Please, if anyone is out there, stop long enough to let us desperate souls in far off lands know what the on the ground situation is…
US,EU,India,China,UN all welcomed king’s proclamation, now SPA leaders should consider their stand. though proclamation itself is not a gaint step but definately a first step to restore peace and locatantra. its high time the SPA leaders take some responsibilities and stop hijacking the show by maoists.
hello to all u bloggers,
I’ve been regularly visiting this site and reading all the comments out here. And I’m also
impressed by the level of intellegence of u all. Well, I don’t have that level of intellect
so I’m getting completely lost. I can’t decide which direction to follow. I notice several
perspectives some of which are in concurrence while others completely divergent. Now,
please help me find appropriate path , will you?
Firstly, most of you all are in favor of complete democracy/loktantra. What is this loktantra? What will be the difference in this sort of democracy from one we used to have before the King took authority in his hand? Yesterday he proclaimed that he has returned the people’s possession to people themselves. Then what is this conflict for?
Seven parties-cum-maoists are now demanding for constitution assebly. Could anybody
please explain what is the purpose of such assembly. Now the king has summoned the
7 parties to form an interim government then why won’t they go for it? Ain’t this sort of
government able to form such ‘constitutional assembly’. If not why not and if yes then what’s
the problem now.
Okay say the king remains obstinate as ever then in what way are the people going to achieve
their goal? How long might this protest last? And what will be the economic plight of our country?
Please, I need an explanation after all i’m a naive.
Okay, I’m a simpleton countryman who is able to win his daily bread through hardship. In what waywill my life change after your ‘loktantra or ganatantra or prajatantra’ whatever s achieved. Please explain me enough. Maybe I can also support and participate in your aandolan if i find a reasonable motif. Remember
I’m a naive Nepalese so explain me in such a way that every naive people like me apprehend well.
Thank you
Now leaders of SPA have already given their statement about: renstatement of parliament, Interim coalititon govt.,election of CA and the New Constitution and the new political set up of the country without guns in Mao’s hands. This is the political line. Otherwise, come to the streets in KTM tomorrow. see u there.
The King now has the backing of the RNA and the International comunity… This is going to make it extreamly difficult for the SPA to get their demands fulfilled. Yes the people are out there but how long will they be able to continue protesting - with the curfews, limited supply of food etc? I read many comments here from people who advocate further protests but what do the people who are actually in KTM think?
A Naive Nepali:
I don’t think you are as naive as you claim but good questions… I don’t know how this lokatantra will be diferent!
The BBC quotes protesters as saying “We want a republic, We don’t want the king any more.”
I can understand why anyone would want to dump an autocratic and unresponsive government, and sympathize with any group of people seeking to topple any government. But be warned — just getting rid of the incompentant and power-obsessed king and creating a republic, or “giving power to the people,” won’t change things much. Government is government, whether waged in the name of “the people” or something else.
Whatever president you get, if that’s what enough of you want, he’ll wield just as much murderous power as your current unloved king — his soldiers will shoot to kill, his police will still impose curfews, and power will still be concentrated in a relatively small group. Maybe that group will call themselves “the people’s representatives,” but it will still be a small, privileged and unacccountable group. Don’t be fooled by the pretty words or all the nice political and social theory, there is no such thing as “government of the people, by the people, and for the people.”
You’ll learn this eventually.
Shadowrati:
Good points made. I am not Nepali, just an American who visited your beautiful country in ‘01 and am hoping to return this summer if the dust ever settles… Yes it is true in the US we have ‘democracy’ but in my observation GWB is trying to be another Gyane, taking away our freedom of speech(Patriot Act), constitutional rights, assembly(no curfews yet but it’s very difficult to protest legally and protesters have been detained and exposed to hazardous chemicals(’04 Republican Nat’l Convention), protesters are arrested for wearing anti-war T-shirts. USA ppl have become too fat, rich, overworked, drugged by TV and have too much to lose by fighting the system so gradually our rights are being taken away b/c we are not fighting for them, unlike the poor Nepalis with nothing to lose. Whatever form the ‘Loktantra’ might take Nepali ppl need to keep an eagle eye on your leaders - make sure you are not trading in the Shah dynasty for the Bush dynasty like we have here - just one American’s 2 paisa opinion…
btw the people that u seen in the streets are not the residents of ktm.. the residents of ktm valley have decided to stay inside their home only cause they know this is just like a repeat telecast of 1990 ..i knew they were the wise among all the neps..they have proved it right.. singadurbar agadi kehi pani vaeyko cha..nor we are thinking of invading it..narayanhiti ma pani tyati sajilai kaa jana dincha…if KG thinks hes gona go hes gona take some pretty large figures with him too..yo sabai bahun haru ko natak ho.. bware !!!
“yo sabai bahun haru ko natak ho”
Care to elaborate?
hey shadowrati !!
u are really pessimistic…
things gonna be ok..first thing first..its the time to sweep out the bloody killer king ..and enjoy the real LOKTANTRA..
Hey all,
Better take notice about the maoist infiltration. They can planning for a distratrous attack on our country and that will be hell worse situation for the country and say bye bye to the hard fought democracy for decades to come. I request all the Nepali people fighting for the democracy, take notice to my point and beware of maoist. We want democracy not maocracy (communist rule).
hey Bhudai Pundit
don’t be racist .. that time is gone..be a man.
hey bloggers,
don’t play with the spirit of Revolution-2006 or the Jana-Aandolan -02
if u continue to do so…
then what will be difference between u and KG and Niro of Rome , those all who enjoy others suffering…..
…..if people want to outst KG… they can..
poor nepalse don’t have any money to feed the lucrative desires of those bloodsuckers..
Ya i agree with you Mero Desh
Today the crowd which came in this Indrachowk, Ason area i saw their faces. Believe me there was no one from valley. Maximum people looked like “Khate”. More than chanting democratic slogans they were interested in watching girls.
I believe there were Maoists too.
They are just taking advantage of current situation.
hello! I didn’t find answers to any of my questions. So what can i infer from your silence? I don’t think I’ve asked anything out of track or too intricate to answer. I’ve just asked you relevant and basic questions according to the time of context. Well if you’ll bother to answer only few questions of mine, you will also be benefited: it might be a source of enlightenment for you because u might be supporting/protesting anyone blindly but doing it for solid reasons will of course make some difference. Also, any faulty reason or mental resistance that led you to think negatively(than ur real self) can be identified.
Well, I don’t want all of you to post your reply to my questions here but i will appreciate if you do it mentally as if you were describing me who is vis-a-vis you. At least, some of you please get answers to just two questions-
1)What is a ‘constitution assembly’? Won’t the interim government( if formed) be able to organize such assembly?*WHY*?
2)HOw long will the protest go on if there’s a stalemate like this. How long should it go? IS it possible to conquer His majesty the king solely by the rabble?If yes HOw?
well, I hope this time you will help this naive bumpkin find answers to those questions. please!
thanx in advance
dumre kancha, shenzhen:
I think you are confused… I am not the one being racist … I was asking this ‘nobody’ character why he said this was all the doing of the bhuns.
hey ganatantrabadi
if u want ganatantra go to india.
There are enough bloodsuckers in nepal mainly top leaders of SPA who are soaked in corruption and they don’t even dare to punish the culprit with in their party.
Do you know why SPA just said sorry to Public coz they cannot punish the corrupted culprit because if they do they all will go down coz everyone of them in involved.
All u desperate souls out there in different parts of the world - don’t ask us whas goin on in the streets of kathmandu because we are under curfew remember? I’ll tell you what we are doing though - we are watching the news -CNN and BBC is covering the account prety well.
Unfortunately shadowrati is exactly right and it is actually far worse…
Democracy: doesn’t really mean much and can’t function with a poor, oppressed, largely illiterate public in a country where communication and education is severly limited. People are fed up and willing to follow any alternative.
Maoists: Ever think why they would choose this as a name? The last “popular Maoist” uprising to achieve control and power was, hmmm let me think…ah the Khemer Rouge. Now that was a real “people power” movement liberating the poor, oppressed, people from a corrupt authoritarian monarch. These guys have shown that they are willing to kill innocents to advance their agenda (grab power). Don’t be fooled by slogans.
The Pro-Democracy Parties (other than the Maoists): See comments by many above. Just another bunch of corrupt thugs looking to get their share of the pie.
The Neighbors: Nepal is strategically located between the 2 most populace nations on earth. No nation likes a power vacuum at their doorstep. Do you think China and India are not pulling some strings here? Who knows what is really happening behind the scenes. Or what it will take for either of these to make an overt power grab. I assure you the powers that be for both of these giants have been making plans for a long time now….
The Monarchy: Yeah, they suck too… If this were a chess game it would be time to lay down your King. But its not. This is the best option given the very very very poor alternatives. I hate to say it. I have been visiting (and loving) Nepal since 1976. Take his offer and form a government if you can. Democracy is a process not a destination. You can’t get it all right away. But the Maoists WILL NOT LET THIS happen if they can stop it. This “pro-democracy” movement is exactly what they want to move them along in their power grab. Let’s see, aside from the King, which other party has an army…????
Sorry if I stepped on any toes. I just hate to see this unfold so predictably. Has anyone here read any history books at all????
I’ll tell you why the bahuns.Who are leading the SPA? Girija bahun and Madhab kumar bahun…….Who are leading the Maoists ? Baburam bahun and Pusha kamal bahun…..Which newspapers are backing them the most? Kamal Bahun and Kunda Bahun of ( Nepali Times ) and Some Gyawali bahun of ( Kantipur and Kathmandu Post)……Which professional group is supporting them the most? the lawyer, the teachers and the journalists who are mostly Bahuns……That’s why bahuns. Got it? pundit???
Hey “Naive” Nepali,
It will be better if you do your own research rather than expecting other people to do that for you.
Read the preamble of the constitution and article 116 of the constitution and you will know what you can not change about the current constitution. If you want to have a system of governance that is different from the one based on (from the preamble)”to guarantee basic human rights to every citizen of Nepal; and also to consolidate Adult Franchise, the Parliamentary System of Government, Constitutional Monarchy and the System of Multi Party Democracy” you have no constitutional path to it.
The issue that is being discussed these days is monarchy. For example, if you wanted to get rid of it, there is no constitutional path to it and the interim government established according to the article 35 or through parliamentary election would not be able to question monarchy. The government under the current constitution would never have the right to declare an unconditional constitution assembly - actually it can not declare any type of constitution assembly because parliament is the only body that can change the constitution as long as it satisfies the conditions listed above.
For your second question, I suggest reading up on world history. Read how long it has taken for people to achieve their goals, how long people have had to protest. Those case studies will give you some idea on what people can achieve and how long it takes to achieve those. You can start your study by reading India’s history.
thank you sire for your endeavor to help a rustic and ignorant guy like me. Well, I’ll head towards my room and turn the pages of constitution and read the article thoroughly. But, You have failed to answer my questions fully.please reread my questions and know the answers i’m seeking. anyways, thanks for ur help sire.
Well now its late night and i have to get up early in the morn and start the day in my little farm.
I’m expecting for comprehensible, lucid , logical and satisfying answer. Anybody outta there to help this cowboy?
WE DON’T KNOW ABOUT CENTRAL LEVEL MAOIST-RULE BUT AT VILLAGE LEVEL IT IS DISASTROUS! WE HAVE SEEN PARTY RULE FOR 12 YEARS AND THEY WERE A BIG FLOPS! AND FINALLY WE SAW KING’S RULE, INCOMPETENT ONE!
NOT A SINGLE UNIT IS GOOD ENOUGH TO LET THE COUNTRY IN THEIR HANDS! HENCE WE NEED EITHER ALL OR NONE. SINCE WE CAN IGNORE NONE, WE NEED ALL.
LET MAKE A SYSTEM TO ADJUST ALL. CHECK AND BALANCE MUST BE THERE.
To NYCdidi - you hit the bull’s eye - yes, the Nepalese people better keep a keen eye on SPA - we need leaders with a vision to move Nepal forward, I think this requires a correct representation of groups/people of Nepal. Question to the Nepalese: if you were able to elect a group of leaders today - do you know who that would be? Who do you trust? This is a sincere question.
Hey “Naive” Nepali,
You need to learn to read things on your own and find answers on your own. Don’t rely on other people to find answers for you. I already provided references for you to read.
If you were really “naive” and without any formal education, I would probably work with you and assist you finding answers. You are blogging, typying in English, and even trying to be an actor, which indicates you have enough mental capacity, education, cleverness, and resources to go off on your own and find answers.
Well-off people need not pretend they have to work in a “farm”. If you really want to go work in a farm, quit blogging immediately, go to Dolpa, and start herding yaks. Otherwise, start studying the articles and texts and help come up with a system to empower and uplift brothers and sisters in Dolpa. Your choice. Good luck.
Why doesn’t The ‘King’ give up? This is beyond him. Modern forces have been unleashed which are going to wash away his ancient royal house away. Does he not realize that?
Or is fatso still relying on his astrologers?
Manan, he’s probably relying on his astrologers who call him Vishnu instead of his name.
Dibyadristri, there are lots of other parties besides the ones who were in power, and if there aren’t, then NEWER parties can always show up in the radar. What’s with this attitude of ‘oh well, those parties failed so probably every party ever known to mankind will also fail’ ?!
Syehyan Nepal:
I was under the impression that Kunda Dixit and the other people you mentioned were all trying to fight for the restoration of democracy. Journalists, lawyers etc. who was say are mostly bhuns have all joined the movement haven’t they? I don’t quiet understand what your point is?
modern force vaneko mao ho?
I’m sorry but when you say journalist, teachers, and lawyers, you’re saying: educated people. Who are you, Sheshyan Nepal to call all the educated people Bauns?
There are educated teachers, journalists, and lawyers from ALL CASTES in Nepal, nto just Bauns.
but then bauns r the majority .. seshan nepal must one of those bahun haters..
.. sometimes i cant stand them too mate..ekdam guffadi haru hunchan .and opportunist too
So you think Bauns are the majority of educated people in Nepal?
I’m sorry but every educated person of all the other castes will disagree with you on that one, soulsearching.
And this also shows that you are the type of person to believe in the caste system structure. Maybe it’s time to realize that as long as the caste structure is believed, the country can never develop.
nah i dont belive in caste system mellisa.. i dont differentiate between dalit, kami, nakarmi , dakarmin etc.. BUT i have reservations against bahuns..they are different..coy,clever just like a fox..i hate that..maybe its their nature..i dont know..for eg dr.bhola rijal of om hospital..yesterday he was shouting slogans against the king..but if tomorrow the king is powerful and he is conferred with a medal like gorkha dakchin bahu …he will go there like with a wide green and jai sarkar garera auncha .. so bahuns are kina shady..nothing personal..but they are too gufadis
..and to support my point..seshan nepal said it right .. “I’ll tell you why the bahuns.Who are leading the SPA? Girija bahun and Madhab kumar bahun…….Who are leading the Maoists ? Baburam bahun and Pusha kamal bahun…..Which newspapers are backing them the most? Kamal Bahun and Kunda Bahun of ( Nepali Times ) and Some Gyawali bahun of ( Kantipur and Kathmandu Post)……”
The beauty of having an elected government is, you won’t have to vote for a baun leader if you don’t want to.
So when these ‘bauns’ as you call them, get rid of the king and form a new constitution and you as a citizen, get out to vote: vote for a candidate who’s not baun.
BTW, I doubt the commie bauns consider themselves baun or they wouldn’t have so many non bauns following them.
Can I ask how old you are, and if you’re in Nepal or elsewhere? I thought, by now, that most Nepalese in Nepal only separated themselves by money (and how much they had in the bank) as opposed to caste.
And honestly, you do believe in the caste system if you’re giving certain attributes to people based purely on their last name.
Melissa,
You’re arguing with morons. This is going to prove to be a useless test of your patience before it will ever be a debate.
King must go first!
Maoists can only join mainstream after end of monarchy!
This moment comes for every monarchy, it is just natural!
People are finished with monarchy!
wow!well sumwhere in this blog post i read sumone was sayin “king is giving the olive branch.. so y don’t we catch it” well, don’t u see his other hand is carrying a sword..as soon as u touch the branch he’ll chop off ur hand as he did earlier….u want it to happen again like before? NOWAY..no more sweet talk..AND u asked wat the fuss about? it is the fuss about our country..we can’t compromise for 2 min “peace” this time..this is the real time to show wat all NEPALI want…and i don’t think that 10000s of ppl who r on the streets r there for picnicing,they are asking their rights and make their voice heard…Well i am not higly intellectual person like you all here,just put my opinion..but i am worried about my country as you all and all those who r taking the street..And one more thing, this is not SPA’s “andolan”.this is the “andolan” of real people,real nepali..
1. It is more than impressive that so many people in Nepal have committed not just their words but their actions to express their interests and suppoirt for democracy.
2. There is no possibility of a Maoist state/government in Nepal as the political base is not there. Yes there is a widespead desire for changing the lack of popular control and the lack of political equality, but not for an ideological based government. Even the Maoist leadership understand this.
3. The ‘Maoists’ have to be part of the solution, this the King has not accepted.
4. The leadership of the SPA have to continue to work with and commit the CPN(M) to a political solution. Cut them out and you do not have a political solution; you do have a continuing military conflict.
5. There is no place for a politically active monarchy in a future democratic Nepal - it would be a contradiction in terms. Whatever monarchy remians has to be subordinate to the democratically elected government.
6. The most important pressure at the present point in time comes from the people in Nepal demanding change. This is the force that keeps the politicians and the King thinking and prevents an unsustainable solution such as that proposed by KG.
7. The crucial factor for change right now is the position of the security forces - do they support the King or do they support the principle of democratic governance? Are they being pushed to think about this by those on the streets?
soulsearching says:
“nah i dont belive in caste system mellisa”
“BUT i have reservations against bahuns..they are different..coy,clever just like a fox..i hate that..maybe its their nature”
I think you need to do some more soulsearching.
I have been to your beautiful country many times. I think its time the people protested. The monarchy needs to go, the sooner the better. The maoists need to be realistic, there is no room for communists in the world of the 21st century-
its time to break with the past and let the people together open a new road to democracy.
I wish all of you luck and regret I can’t be there with you to protest
Don’t take your eye off the ball Nepalis: Sure, bicker all you like among yourselves about caste and class. Site articles of a Constitution that is unknown by the majority of the citizenry who can’t read it anyway. A document whose core principles are alien to the way of life of the very people it is supposed to enfranchise. Kathmandu is not Nepal. And like everywhere else in the world, your elite be they the Monarchy or the leadership of these so-called Democracy Parties have their own selfish, corrupt, private agenda. But this is all a giant distraction. The Maoists could not have wished for a better scenario to sweep away thier only obstacle to power. This pro-Democracy movement is the very Trojan horse that will remove the only stabilizing force (as corrupt as the RNA & Police are) between at least a slim chance of building at least some representative form of government on the one hand or a new Nepal just like the one Pol Pot brought to Cambodia. A giant Tsunami is about to sweep you all away and you are all arguing about the temperature of your heated pool and the color of your patio furniture. Sorry, I do love your country but you don’t have a clue about what’s coming… Take the King’s offer and build on it. Of course, the Maoists smelling death and their chance in a lifetime to take full control will NEVER let this happen if they can stop it. Its up to you… Namaste
Oh, one more thing: Who can name a single “Maoist” or similar armed communist movement that ended with the Maoists negotiating with the other parties and forming a democratic, representative coalition government based on Constitutional law? Where in the crowds on the streets of Kathmandu is the Nepali Maximilien Robespierre of today?
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