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Sawari Terror and Dui Kinara Enjoyment

Watching a Nepali feature film after a traffic hassle

By Dinesh Wagle

After two days of delay, my Dui Kinara (two banks/sides), a Nepali movie, plan finally materialized. Devu Babu, as I call him (the witty Devendra Bhattarai), was there with his hunger of Tulsi Ghimire cinema. We enjoyed the movie in Biso Jyoti cinema hall. But before actually seeing the movie, I had to went through a movie-like experience. Hum…Movie-like experience that, sadly, many Kathmanduties unwilling go through frequently. I term this movie ‘Sawari Atanka’ or ‘Sawari Terror’. The word ‘Sawari’ has many meanings: travel, journey, tour, hitch, move, trip and I do not know how many others. But in Nepali context, this word has a particular meaning: When it comes to Sawari, the traveler is not Ram, Shyam, or Hari. I mean it is not the general public. For me, Sawari and Slavery sound similar.

My bus heading toward Ratna Park was, without any prior notice, stopped at Minbhavan and forced to return back. I got off from the vehicle along with other passengers and started walking. Almost all public vehicles were being diverted from their destinations and, it seemed, the road was only for private fancy cars. Sensing that I could not make it to the hall by 2:30, the show time (it was already 2:02), I made a call to Devendra. “Oh… Just come in front of the old RONAST office at Bijulibazzar,” he who has a motorbike said, “I will be there in 5 minutes.” I was not really in the mood to walk in that scorching heat. I was taking rest in home until yesterday.

I was walking but seemed to be going nowhere. Or probably somewhere? I stumbled upon a policeman.

“Uta..uta..uta..bata,” he screamed at me as if I was committing a crime by walking on a regular footpath. He was ordering me to walk from other side of the road: Uta bata. That was a footpath I was walking over, in front of Everest Hotel. I was not on the wrong path.

“Why?” I demanded an explanation.

“Sawari chha,” he said. There is a Sawari, was his explanation.

“Whose Sawari?”

“Whose Sawari? Sawari is Sawari? What do you mean by whose Sawari? Just walk from the other side of the road.”

“No no no…brother. I know there is Sawari. Could you please tell me who is coming?”

Now, he was ready to listen me. He was shorter than myself. He looked at my face. “Paras Sarkar ko.”

Crown Prince Paras was to inaugurate some program in Birendra International Convention Center.

Now, I changed my route and started walking toward Bijulibazzar hoping Devendra to pop up and rescue me. While walking, I started thinking about this Sawari thing. How much a Helicopter would cost? Why don’t our VVIPs use helicopters while traveling from one point to another. That would make general public’s traveling very easier. No traffic disturbance.

I am not against VVIPs enjoying some sort of privilege while traveling. Yes, they should be given due respect. But people like myself should have get some share of that respect. We should also be able to walk free. The road does not solely belong to VVIPs.

Is our security situation so deteriorated that even in Baneshwor the road should be emptied for VVIP entourage? If so who is responsible to this situation? If security situation is improved, I see no problem for VVIPs using regular traffic.

Finally, Devu Babu popped up as I reached the Bijulibazzar Bridge. This time around the extra helmet on his bike was in good condition. (The other time I had to borrow a helmet from Yeshoda because Devendra’s reserve helmet was so muddy that no one would sit behind his bike).

I think we were late by a minute or two. The storyline film that dealt with Non Resident Nepali’s and People of Nepali Origin, first of it’s kind in Kollywood, was impressive. It would have been a better experience if the hall was in better condition. The sound of fan was big that at times it made difficult to catch the dialogues. The film as it is minus 30 minutes would have get four stars out of five from me. Now, its three star.

A PNO girl, daughter of a NRN, visits Pokhara with her father, step mother and American boyfriend. The boatman falls in love with her (Niruta Singh) but could not express his feelings toward her. [Have I fallen (well rising in love is better than falling, I guess) in love with anyone like that way? Well, I do not remember, in any way!] Again, to the film. In a rafting accident, his boyfriend is ‘killed’ but she survives. Should I tell the whole story? Come on. Ghimire, the director, will not appreciate this.

Ghimire always comes up with noble stories, convincing characters and, on the whole, good films. He himself is a PNO and has been seeking citizenship. But who dares to honor such a fine brain with Nepali citizenship here in Nepal? At one point, there is a talk of citizenships for PNO. That issue was raised in a NRN conference two years ago in Kathmandu. All in all, I liked the story of the film and if I got opportunity, edit at least 3 songs off the film. While enjoying Phapar ko roti and Aalu ko achar in a Putalisadak restaurant after the movie, Devendra too agreed on my point. Wait a minute…Devu Babu, don’t you think I should keep something for my Kala Ra Shailee review?

15 Comments »

HI Dinesh. you are brave man!!! Prince paras was travelling, and you didn’t care!!!! How come? Is it real man!!!

Take care of your life.

Comment by Coward — 6/2/2005 @ 10:07 am

Even in India, when the Prime Minister is travelling, the total traffic is blocked so why are we making the fuss of crown prince going to inaugurate some function? Even if the chief minister of Bihar travels in Patna, the entire road is blocked. One incident when M.P George Fernandez was walking when Prime Minister Narasimha Rao’s security told him to face the wall not the street in New Delhi. This made a furor in India. At least no policeman tells you to face the wall here. It is just for 10-15 minutes that you have to stop your car or your motorcycle. So, what is the hassle?? Let us not criticize for the sake of criticism. If it is done for chief minister of Tamil Nadu going to her office and residence every day and night, why can’t traffic be blocked for 10 minustes for the nation’s crown prince??

Comment by Sajan — 6/2/2005 @ 2:22 pm

In Colombo, President Kumaratunga’s coming home and going to office triggers a total traffic mess. So, is the case in Dhaka. Only here off-start journalists write comments on 10 minutes jam when the country’s heir to the throne goes to inaugurate a formal function organized by a diplomatic mission.

Comment by Dean — 6/2/2005 @ 2:24 pm

And in US there is no traffic halt during president’s entourage.

Comment by raj — 6/2/2005 @ 2:38 pm

In India, and also in Sri Lanka, the roads are far more better and the traffic significantly better managed than that of ours. Unlike the ONLY backbone of Kathmandu, Baneswor Road, roads in most Indian and Sri Lankan (and these days even Bangladesh) have other access roads so that in case of a jam, there are options available. Maybe the powers that be should think about this before they decide to get all of us stuck on the road, especially close to office hours.

Comment by sameer — 6/2/2005 @ 2:58 pm

Too late to air my disgust, but it may interest you to know that in my country, when our Queen travels from town to town, her car slows down so the people can smile and wave and blow her kisses. She always waves back with a smile!

I have to say I think Nepal’s Royals are missing the point. Love, not hate, should emanate from the people, can’t they see that? and we mustn’t blame the policeman, he’s too stupid to know the difference.

Comment by Peter Francon — 6/3/2005 @ 10:11 am

Mr. Peter Francon, in our country the queen is also regarded as the goddess laxmi. Please do not give unnecessary comparisons without knowing the difference. OK?

Comment by Ram — 6/3/2005 @ 12:40 pm

Sameer, what a ridiculous statement that the Delhi’s traffic or Colombo’s roads are better than Kathmandu’s. Please visit those two places and find the difference. They are much worse than Kathmandu. OK? When traffic is blocked in Delhi because of PM’s sawari, the whole traffic goes berserk.

Comment by Sajan — 6/3/2005 @ 12:44 pm

Sajan, I have. The main roads in those two countries are definitely better than ours- forget the arteries. They manage their traffic much better than here. Sure, they are nothing compared to developed nations but in cases of traffic jams, from my experience, they do a much better job of managing the jams than they do here.

Comment by sameer — 6/3/2005 @ 2:38 pm

dear mr. ram “in our country queen is also regarded as godsess laxmi”…i dont know how people can be so rediculous some times …this ultra relgiious belief and myth is what has been ruining nepal …..my question:why doesnt your goddess laxmi or any of your dieties for that matter cant see when people suffer when they are having fun moving in thier limos and cutting red ribbons..why does your laxmi’s son goes on rampage killing and injuring people ???
and hey i totally agree that vip can always move around with normal traffic…… but i know they would never do so ..coz.. it is due to people like ram that even they think that they really are god and goddess….for god sake ram ..hello…..wake up ….

Comment by bahula_kaji — 6/3/2005 @ 9:03 pm

Sajan and Dean and all those whining about Dinesh’s whining on traffic jams and Paras’s sawari. how long have you guys lived in ktm, without a vehicle of your own?? when all those people crammed in the bus in baneswor have to get off to walk all the way to maharajgunj or ghattekulo, all sweaty and running out of time, just because some rich ass is travelling in his luxury SUV, is that fair to the Nepalese ppl?? And who gives a shit about India and Srilanka and Kamaratunga? You eat shit doesn’t mean I eat shit. OK?

Our queen goddess laxmi?? My ass!

Comment by Blogbahini — 6/4/2005 @ 2:16 am

Ram

I don’t doubt that if Queen Laxmi waves as she passes you one day from the air conditioned comfort of her Jaguar motor car, she’ll imbue you with (her) wealth.

I wasn’t actually comparing our respective Queens. I was comparing the behaviour of the monarchs, our Heads of State. Your King’s wife may well be regarded as the godess Laxmi (though you’re the first I’ve heard say so).

Put more simply, my point was about the King’s Men strangling the traffic flow in an already choked city; blocking roads and making folk walk on the other side of the road when a Royal goes ‘walk-about’.

…have you ever considered a career in The Police Force?

Comment by Peter Francon — 6/4/2005 @ 8:06 am

Peter Francon, when VVIPs pass, there is road blocked everywhere. Especially in countries where there are insurgencies going on. Our queen doesn’t wave like yours but she does namaste which is a sign of polite greeting. You seem to know nothing. Which other city is more choked than Patna but when Rabri Devi moves around there is traffic chaos. And this is twice daily. Ours is only once in a blue moon. But the traffic has been very well managed here too. It is just for 10 minutes that until the VVIP motocade passes that the regular vehicular movement goes on. Nothing is wrong in this. If you don not know that the HIndu queen is regarded as goddess laxmi then you are not a HIndu. The Bhagwat Gita says that Lord Krishna is in Pipal, in Shaligram stone, in the King and the conch. If you don’t regard Bhagwat Gita as a guiding light but beef as a source of insiration, then little can be told to muddle-heads like you. Please don’t preach nonsense to us Nepalese. You should go back to your own country and wave to your own queen.

Comment by Ram — 6/4/2005 @ 10:57 am

peter,

don’t believe that shit by ram. I mean that freaking woman is ‘goddess’? Oh god. At least, don’t sully the name of goddess Laxmi. All photos I have seen so far of Laxmi make me feel so good, and you are soiling that memory, man.

Comment by chinta — 6/4/2005 @ 11:20 am

Thank you Chinta.

Ram, we were talking about traffic jams caused by royals. I made a few off-the-cuff comments and I experience the most vehement religious/racial hatred I’ve ever faced in Nepal.

Well done for calculating I’m not Hindu, by the way, with a name like Peter it wasn’t very hard. But your ‘beef eating’ comment takes the biscuit for rudeness.

I’ll ignore the bit about ‘go home’, I am home, I live in Kathmandu. It’s a capital city, many foreigners live in foreign capitals.

So please keep your racial hatred to yourself and do us all a favour and stop talking so much shite.

Comment by Peter Francon — 6/4/2005 @ 7:31 pm

United They Vowed To Bring Back Democracy

By Dinesh Wagle on May 27th, 2005 in Wagle Street Journal

Nepal parties show their strength in Kathmandu

Nepal Protest: This was the biggest rally against royal takeover. All pics by Wagle. For more pics of the event, go to Jana Andolan-062 (May27) album here.

In one of the biggest demonstrations against the Feb 1 royal takeover, pro-democracy alliance of seven Nepali political parties organized a mass meeting in New Baneshwor, East Kathmandu, this afternoon. For those with functional eyes, efficiently working ears and correct senses, today’s seven rallies (originating from different locations and later merged into the unified mass meeting) and the gathering should be a stark signal to the days to come. Filled mostly with active cadres of the seven agitating parties, the mass meeting was addressed by top leaders of the political forces. Organizers previously claimed to gather around 30 thousand people in New Baneshwor. But independent estimates put the number somewhere around 13 thousands.

Yes, the biggest challenge for parties is to effectively convince the mass and attract them toward their agendas. To make them believe that they (parties) are the ones who can do something good for the country. Some sympathizers of political parties told me in the mass meeting venue today that “this is just a beginning of Jana Andolan” and people will ultimately join the protest programs. While central level leaders were giving long and somewhat tiresome (especially by CP Mainali) speeches, traffic at the main road of New Baneshwor was smooth and busy. General public seemed to be giving less or no attention to the mass meeting. I was amazed.

All leaders stressed on the importance of their unity and the necessity of the restoration of parliament. Girija Prasad Koirala, Nepali Congress President and the main attraction of the gathering, told that the King “is trying to build the network of tyranny inside a dark room while people are trying to write their bright future by protesting his rule.” This, according to Koirala, is the conflict of the present day Nepal. “This is also the conflict for the change,” he claimed.

“By constituting Royal Commission for Corruption Control (RCCC),” Koirala said, “the king has pushed the country in further uncertainty and anachy.”

“The king orchestrated the naked dance of autocracy on Feb 1,” Koirala told the mass. “There were so many kings in the world,” 83 year old leader said, “but because of doing these kinds of things they disappeared from history.”

CPN UML leader Jhalanath Khanal challenged the royal regime to come up with facts for a debate about democratic era of the 90s. “The Panchayati autocrats build just 6 thousand KMs of road in 30 year,” he said, “but we build 16 thousand road in just over a decade.” He also said that the only 10 percent population had access to electricity in Panchayat period. “Now, its 40 percent. Literacy rate was 10 percent in Panchayat kaal and now its 50 percent.” He also invited the Maoists to give up violence and join the seven party agitation. “You are talking about Constituent Assembly,” he said, “and we are also talking about the same these days. So, lets join our hands together. Give up violence.”

Gopal Man Shrestha, acting Chairman of Nepali Congress (D), the party of Sher Bahadur Deuba who dissolved the parliament in 2002 and was sacked on Feb 1 this year, told that in the absence of the parliament, the king played dirty games with Nepali people. “Last time when he reinstated democratically elected Prime Minister (Deuba), we though the regression was partly corrected,” Shrestha said, “but the king again forcefully ousted (ghokrethyak) [Deuba] even when PM was trying to hold an election.”

Shrestha said that no experiments from king would be acceptable to parties now onwards. “Now we seven parties have become one,” he said, “We have one voice. Only the restoration of parliament could solve the problems of this country. This movement will restore the parliament.”

He warned the regime not to play with a cat in a locked room. “That will kill you.” “The king has taken away every rights of people, Shrestha added, “Don’t play with us (cat) because in the absence of any exit the cat will kill the assaulter.” He also said that house reinstatement was a political decision and could be done in the interest of the country. Exact line was uttered by NC President Koirala at the end of the mass meeting.

Before Feb 1, NC (D) and CPN UML, both the members of the sacked government, were skeptical about restoration of the parliament. After the royal takeover, they all have agreed upon the common demand: house revival.

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21 Responses to “United They Vowed To Bring Back Democracy”

Pramod Aryal Says:
May 28th, 2005 at 12:16 am

morning shows the day! kudos brave soldiers of democracy. bring democracy and that will bring lasting peace. wish i could have been there.

some body you know Says:
May 28th, 2005 at 12:35 am

”He also said that the only 10 percent population had access to electricity in Panchayat period. â??Now, its 40 percent. Literacy rate was 10 percent in Panchayat kaal and now its 50 percent.â?? He also invited the Maoists to give up violence and join the seven party agitation. â??You are talking about Constituent Assembly,â?? he said, â??and we are also talking about the same these days. So, lets join our hands together. Give up violence.â??”

wagle dai i too was there by your side. I had seen you and was at second floor of the same bulding where you were. If you think i am wrong, proof is you had a silver digital camara and were wirting in a copy. isnt it? but what you leastend and what i did is different see:

what jhalanath khanal had said was not 10 percent of electicty, it was 10 lakh and but ya! 40 “percent” (not lakh) now( electricty access case). in percentage it becames 3 percent(10 lakh) only. I possible please correct it!

Ma Says:

May 28th, 2005 at 2:50 am
my visit to GorkhaPartra.org.np

republic nepal Says:
May 28th, 2005 at 7:03 am

Thanks for the photos. I just imagine my days before 1990.

concerned nepali Says:
May 28th, 2005 at 9:06 am

The pro-democracy movement is a natural recourse in the present situation when democratic rights have been curtailed. However, if you take off your lenses as a journalist and take a step back from the hype, and manage to give a balanced view, then only you would have succeeded in real journalism, I believe. At best, you only carry one shade of the multi-faceted and mutli-dimensional problem in Nepal.

If you look at the issue from an ordinary person who believes in justice and democracy, he/she will ask you one question? Have the political parties realized why they have been pushed into this situation? Do they not at least have one bit of consceince to apologize to the people for what they have done in the past decade and more? Answering these questions are a must- and it shoudl not be answered as Jhala Nath Khanal did by comparing the post-1990 democratic period with the equally messed up Panchayat era… he was comparing two messed up era.. one just more than the other… when will politicians learn to make an honest self assessment rathern than comparing them with an equally messed up group…

Ultimately, everyone believes in democracy, but ours was a case of experimental democracy.. the people had legit demands and higher expectations in the nineties- and they were failed, there is no dispute on this fact! Now laying the blame on the pro-monarchists, or making silly comparisons to the medieval times is not a valid excuse, the political parties might get away with such messages among the uneducated mass that gather around any kind of ‘aamsabha’ but they cant get away from scholars, intellectuals and others, who unlike journalists who only blow one chord from their horns, have the ability to have an eagle eye view into things and can point fingers on all sides.

There are problems on all sides, and to rise above personal interests is necessary. Of course that is not happening as both sides stick to their own demands, which is why there is agitation. But both the sides are forgetting the third side, the Nepalese people victims of violence. Democracy then becomes a false banner utilized and discredited respectively by the sides and Nepal continues to burn in an armed conflict that becomes a secondary agenda in this political conflict.

ramchandra Says:

May 28th, 2005 at 1:01 pm
Wow! I am also in one of the pics. It was really an enthralling experience for me. I see that the king’s days are over. Perhaps nepal will be republic soon.

jhyapulle pariyar Says:

May 28th, 2005 at 2:10 pm
jhyap wonders why wagle and co censored the comment by “ma”. of course, it is personal site of wagles, but jhyap wonders what makes them use their ‘kaichi’ so mercilessly. comon chaps, you’re following the footsetps of G and co. don’t be so preposterous. jhyap thinks you guys have started to obey the dicates of the draconian law (where one is not allowed to criticise so called raj-pariwar) even before it is promulgated. don’t use your socalled morality of what is wrong and what is right. jhyap refrains from giving unnecessary suggestions but she is really pissed off today and suggests wagle and co that: use your morality or whatever in the articles that you post but leave rest as khula aakash.

suggestion to mr. wagle Says:
May 28th, 2005 at 5:55 pm

Mr . wagle
hi

Thanks to the democractic era of nepal(90-005) that deveops intelligent mind like u. I have no of friend like u who are in journalist profession in nepal . by better introduction i am from the same generation u belongs to and more or less there might be few yr gap in between urâ??s and mine age.

I came to know abt ur weblog few times ago from my senior who used to surf the net frequently.It is wonderful idea.keep it up
Mr. wagle so let me come to the point . I have been seeing ur news in the blog sites . I enjoyed ur news and develop most reality from them. Infact U are doing great . But whensoever i read ur political news i am confused . i know and support democracy . People donâ??t want kings direct rule but why guys like u support only girija?

Why can’t u be neutral and more analyitical? why do u want to feed or give the news just only about gungan of party netas?Why do u write safely when u come to the party news? Why donâ??t u press the parties to take action against corrupted netas?
i doubt ur presence in the net. See if young people like u believe on this corrupted democracy , visionless netas and bina agenda ko andolan. Who is going to bring us real democracy?

I found u being more inclined to girija badi sansakar. U people are trying to bring satta from one tanasha and give it to the next tanasha(democractic girija).

Mr wagle, once i found a article abt sujata in ur weblog and i was much fascinated by ur idea. At that time i understood u as young man with creative attitude, a man who is doing best to make a change from all his effort at a very young age. I believe u must have been scold by senior wagle and girija babu must have been annoyed with u. isn’t mr. wagle?

Mr. wagle, as being a career journalist , ur duty is to promote unbiased news. We have judgemental power. Finally, Mr. wagle unless and untill these netas correct themeslves , there can not be a smooth democractic environment. If u want these netas to bring democracy for u and me . Be prepared that next pratigaman is not a far away. it is just 2 yrs or 3 yrs ahead. But the pratigamankari for the next time will not be palace, it will be india.

Please do not be stressed. I guess u will discover good things from my suggestions
urs well wisher

gajadi Says:
May 28th, 2005 at 6:18 pm
gajadi attahas garikan hasyo ‘suggestion’ ko suggestion padhikan.

yet another crap giving suggestion, reminding wagle of his duty!

gajadi can only say, the visionless netas are much much better than the vision of your malik which is to mercilessly kill the opponents and rule singlehandedly by gobling up all the wealth of the country; corrupted democracy is much better than your maliks autocracy where he only can speak; and bina agenda ko andolan is much much better than the agenda of your malik to make nepal his personal fiefdom.

for you if sujata is criticised then wagle is doing good, if your malik’s puppets (wagles donot have the huti to criticise your malik) like giri, bista, pandes then wagle is doing bad. thats the conclusion you draw, write?

neel Says:
May 28th, 2005 at 7:26 pm

i wonder if i can be a democrat in nepal without supporting any of those parties from baneshwor galli. when the whole chowk was being littered by the red flags and blue headbands embossed with party emblems, where the hell was the nepali flg??? does “nepali congress / samyukta janamorcha jindabad” equate to “prajatantra jinadabad”?

jhandabadi Says:
May 28th, 2005 at 8:41 pm

neel:
why do you want nepali jhanda? is nepal under attack by india or china or any other countries? or are the parties are fighting against foreign agreession? rastriya jhanda should be used in proper place and proper way. if you want to see (abuse of) rastriya jhanda go to g’s hanumans’ rallies. they carry jhanda and try to equate gulami of g shah, panchayat with rastriyata.

harke sarkee Says:

May 29th, 2005 at 3:02 am
Wagle,

I was surprised to read the “suggestion” to you. Armanya Shah instead of replying quesions is giving suggestion to you. Long live Armanya Sarkar.

Akshu Says:

May 29th, 2005 at 9:47 am
Independent observers said (above) that the rally was about 13 thousand. However, even that is much exaggerated. How can 13 thousand people fit in theat narrow road connecting New Naneswor and BCCI? It was just about 1300 people. What a shame All these parties coming together and they bring in 1300 people in the heart of Kahtmandu for the sake of demcoracy and freedom. What is more ridiculous that KOirala says there are only 2 streams in Nepal today-democracy and repuclicanism. I think there is a third stream existing-that of a comedy show. We know which stream he is in.

Keith Says:

May 29th, 2005 at 9:49 am
Yeah, it was not a great show of strength. The May 1 rally had 10 thousand according to this blog site. The starting of the people’s movement at Ason, according to this site had a few thousand. It seems, the people’s participation is deteriorating, decreasing instead of the other way around.

Ava Says:

May 29th, 2005 at 12:22 pm
blog are all GAF, there were five thousand, now it is clear that how many people are hoest in Nepal, all except these good for nothing five thousan who want to get the political power and loot Nepal again. But they shold know Nepali are not fools. Days of these hooligans are over, these corrupt politician will have to be sent to prision.

DJ Says:
May 29th, 2005 at 7:35 pm

gajadi ji

thank u very much for reminding me some of the point i forgot at a time when i placed suggestion to wagle ji. Yeah i realized in an effort to criticize parties i forget to make comment upon bista, peter giri and kehlkood shah.

As i forget to make a comment upon these people u cleverly pointed me and give me the adjective of rajabadi or royalist which i found used at many times in this blog. Also i would like to stress the point one more time that PEOPLE DO NOT WANT RAJA IN ACTIVE POLITICS BUT i don’t know how u come up with such rude remarks for me. After reading my remarks i don’t know what made u to think myself as rajabadi or royalist.

Any way , so let me begin my point first. Be cleared that before to begin any kind of movement the netas should have clear agendas. The most and biggest problem for my nation is MAOIST PROBLEM. So i wanted these netas be cleared upon this issue first .

We have seen our netas many times. “When ever they remained in post they think maoist should be treated with guns and out of the post they make alliance for their benifit with maoist. They have involved in bartas for many time but zero outcome. So my suggestion was that they should make one strong voice , a voice not for one month or two month or until they came to power but for the almost all period. They also should bring some sort of issues for reforms for maobadi pidits , students and bhumi bhin , kamayas and many more. But infact netas never have a time to make such committment. I think u know the reason better than me . Because before to netas my remarks hurts u. So i think the bigger problem is not netas , the bigger problem is karayakarta like u.

One gentle man named HARKE SARKEE told me ARMANAYA SHAHA. Ha………ha………. Aba neta lai bharastachar nagar, ramro agenda liyer aua bhane manche . Neta should correct themselves before they begin movement bhane manche hark bdr sarki ko akha ma shah hun pugyo. Ma lai yeti thulo shah bhaner nachindinush sarki ji. sayad tapilai tha chaina hola shah maharaja haru lai tapie hami le bhala kushari garne , opinion exchange garne thau ma comment garna kaha fursad hucha ra. Harka ji , gajadi ji and wagle ji ma tapi bhand nikai durgam ko manche ho. Democracy tapi haru bhanda pani badhi ma lai chaikeo cha kina ki i represent myself from the africa of nepal i.e . acham . jaha central government ko existence jahile pani zero huncha.

In total i wanted to mean that netas should correct them. Unless and until they correct them democracy can not be achieved.
I think people like wagle and other journalist can do lot to my nations just by enforcing netas to take action against corrupted one and promoting younger and intelligent people in politics.

finally JOURNALISTS isn’t that ur responsibility to preserve the trust of your reader????

Thito Says:

May 30th, 2005 at 10:02 am
I agree with DJ…

Jiwan Limbu Says:
May 31st, 2005 at 2:12 am

This ‘Jana Andolan’ is farce. There is no chance for Democracy in Nepal by simply staging a drama of only party wokers. Who are these politicians tryig to kid ? Everybody in this country is sceptic about them and their parties. Do you think Democracy is possible without popular support of the people ? Forget it. Ranks within parties must realise this and oust their corrupt leaders as a first step towards bringing back people’s faith in their parties and in Democracy. Just accepting past mistakes is not enough. If these leaders are truly repentant about their past binge with power, they must say it with actions by first stepping down and nominating a new breed of leaders. They must understand that people do not relate to the everyday drama which they stage before Singh Durbar. If these leaders are truly concerned about Democracy in the country, let them first resign from active politics. This is the only way that can sway large scale public opinion in favour of political parties and Democracy. Why don’t they realise this. Forget intimidating KG by staging hollow protests. And forget justifying that you are trying to save Democracy from the hands of a tyrant. It is you, the corrupt politicians, from whom the Democracy must first be purged. Only then let us talk about defending Democracy from KG or the Maoist or whoever …

Jiwan Limbu Says:
May 31st, 2005 at 2:20 am

And yes … Mr. Wagle you should refrain from imposing upon the readers of this blog your vieled support to the political parties and some politicians in particular. You know as well as I do they have been upto no good. Please try and maintian the quality of this blog by letting us judge things for ourselves. Other than that, you’ve been doing a great job … keep it up.

biswash acharya Says:
May 31st, 2005 at 3:42 pm

It’s make me happy to see that photo cause there is no far from Democracy.Is’t it

deepak Says:
June 3rd, 2005 at 5:42 am

“United They Vowed To Bring Back Democracy”
keta keti aaye, guleli chalaye… matyangra ko satyanas.

Government Wants Us to Think that Airport is the World

Travel Ban Continues in Nepal

The royal government is not tired of repeating that everyone is free to travel within and outside Nepal. That’s in plain words. It does just opposite. Nepalis willing to travel abroad go to the international airport with all their documents: valid tickets, visas etc. When they are about to board the flight, some officials from the government suddenly pop up on the tarmac and serve them vague orders there by effectively canceling the travel. Many prominent personalities have gone through such ordeal. For Chitra Lekha Yadav, deputy speaker of the dissolved House of Representative, today was the fourth time since the Feb 1 royal takeover when civil liberties and democracy were suspended.

This morning, a team of politicians and journalists was forced to cancel the Pakistan visit when one member of the team was barred from flying. Nabaraj Subedi, former Member of Parliament and General Secretary of Samyukta Jana Morcha, one of the seven political parties that are planning a mass movement for democracy, was stopped at the airport. Security personnel stopped him and other members of the team wanted to why he was barred from going to Pakistan. Police informed about the incident to “higher authorities”. Still, Subedi wasn’t allowed to travel. Expressing solidarity to Subedi, other members of the cancelled the trip.

The team included Bishnu Nishthuri and Mahendra Bista, president and general secretary, respectively, of Federation of Nepali Journalists (FNJ). Others in the team were Jhalanath Khanal and Predeep Nepal of CPN UML, Binayadhowj Chand and Dilendra Prasad Badu or NC, Gopal Man Shrestha of NCD, CP Mainali of CPM ML and Ramchandra Raya of RPP. All of these parties except RPP are members of the recently formed United Front for the restoration of democracy in Nepal. They were going to Pakistan to participate in the South Asian Parliamentary Forum to be organized from May 14-21 by South Asian Free Media Association (SAFMA).

In a press release issued by Balaram Baniya, secretary of FNJ, the umbrella organization of journalists have condemned the government decision to restrict movement of citizens terming it undemocratic and unconstitutional.

Prominent journalist Kanak Mani Dixit was barred twice from flying abroad. At the first instance, he just returned from the airport and stayed in Kathmandu. When he was bounced back from the airport last Friday for the second time, he didn’t just keep quite. He took a ride all the way to the Indian boarder and from India took a flight to Colombo, Sri Lanka. He participated in a conference and, to the surprise of the authorities, returned Nepal this Wednesday.

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Why is freedom of expression stopped if the king is right, democratic and doing as per the aspirations of the people? Yes, freedom of expression is dangerous for an autocratic regime.

Comment by Vishnu — 5/14/2005 @ 5:01 pm

Hey UWB, it’s not the govt’s mistake if it wants u to think that TIA is the world……rather it’s your mistake that you think so. I think the govt is won on convincing you that. Think about it. You journos are the ones who wright news with 50pt font on the front page if some one is barred from boarding a plane at TIA. If you think govt is wrong then why the hue and cry huh??

Comment by Electra — 5/16/2005 @ 4:23 pm

A Shopkeeper Mourns His Shop’s Death

Nepal Case Study: Fighting for democracy and the Rato Ghar

Baghbazaar Ko Patrika Pasale: Kicked out from his 14 year old place, Ram Babu Ghimire, owner of Baghbazaar News Stand, might seem like “a real nowhere man/ sitting in his nowhere land/ making all his nowhere plans for nobody.” But unlike John Lennon’s Nowhere Man, Ghimire is utterly hopeful about the future. Pic by Wagle.

Ram Babu Ghimire is mourning the sudden death of his beloved shop. A shop? It was not just a shop. A famous news stand in the heart of Kathmandu city, in front of Rato Ghar, his shop was full of wisdom and information. For all those knowledge hungry people out there, his shop, popularly known as Baghbazar Ko Partika Pasal (News Stand of Baghbazar), was a favorite destination.

Yesterday was one of the sad days of his life. In the very morning of May 10, armed police personnel surrounded the Rato Ghar, kicked out the belongings of All Nepal National Free Student Union (ANNFSU) from their offices in the building, and ordered Ghimire to move his shop from the foot path in front of the building. Ghimire’s shop wasn’t inside the building. Under a worn out tent, he used to spread newspapers, magazines and books hoping to earn bread for his family- a wife and two children. Now the very survival of his family is under severe threat.

For many people out there, this pathetic story of Ram Bahu Ghimire might be an insignificant and unimportant matter. For me this is a window to peek through the reality of our country. Where are we heading toward? Armed police kick out students from a building and force shop owners like Ghimire to move from the place where he has been selling news papers and books for the last 14 years. The source of knowledge (the news stand) and exercisers of knowledge (students) are being kicked out from a public property to make housing for the police. What is our destination? The morning of May 10 is just and example of our country being militarized. Gun is replacing pen. The voice of arms is mercilessly crushing the voice of reason and knowledge. Police are marching in the very same place where students used to have discourse about democratic movement until May 9.

This is the famous Rato Ghar (red house) of Ratna Park from where student organization ANNFSU was forcefully ousted by armed police yesterday. Erstwhile a center for political discourse, this building has now been turned into a fort. Pic Wagle.

What a coincidence. Exactly when our police force was invading the offices of students and throwing a news stand from Rato Ghar area, a high level representative of the U.S. government was inaugurating a public library in a five star hotel not far from there. When I go through the speech delivered by American Assistant Secretary of State Christina Rocca while launching the new offices of new American Library in Yak and Yeti hotel, I feel energized and sad at the same time.

“Access to information is critical,” Rocca said, “particularly in times of uncertainty, of strife, of a possible threat to democratic institutions and civil liberties. Gaining increased knowledge about democratic systems and the rights and responsibilities of government, politicians, the media, and civil society is vital in establishing and maintaining a vibrant and viable democratic system with a responsible and transparent government. In order to make informed choices, we all need to know what the options are. The mission of this library is to provide information for democracy, peace and prosperity.”

I know for those who want to keep Nepali citizens in dark and rule as per their tongue’s movement, those words of Rocca mean nothing at all. I see no difference between the mission of American library and the Patrika Pasal of Ghimire. Though not in the five star hotel as the library, the foot path based news stand of Ghimire proudly boasts books of Karl Marx to B P Koirala, former prime minister and popular socialist leader of Nepal, from Frederic Engels to Maxim Gorky, from Vladimir Ilich Lenin to Mahatma Gandhi. Not to mention newspapers and magazines of the day and several other periodicals available in the shop.

When I entered the library and talked with Navin Rayamajhi, reference librarian, I felt proud to have such a library in the city. “We are trying to be a public library,” he said. But when I try to reconcile Rayamajhi’s words with the Rato Ghar incident and the sad face of Ghimire, I cannot save myself from being ashamed. Ghimire’s shop was a kind of public library too. The real public, with very little money in their pocket but deep hunger for knowledge used to buy books and news papers from his shop.

I felt so comfortable inside the library that I wished to spend some hours there. In the evening, in the newsroom of Kantipur, I was writing about the library. I wanted my article to be as much informative as possible. I did not care about the possibility of my article becoming advertisement of the library. “Even if it becomes a kind of advertisement,” I thought, “I would be happy because more people will go to the library after reading my article.”

I am very happy to let you know that Ghimire doesn’t feel totally defeated. Though uncertain about the future, this 28 year old man is ready to continue his struggle in this cruel city. His two children go to a nearby Royal Public School. When I see him this afternoon, he was busy managing the stuffs of the shop. He had moved books and magazines in another shop nearby. This afternoon, when I visited him, he spread a plastic cover on the footpath in front of electricity offices in Baghbazzar (near to the democracy wall) and displayed books. His wife Devi was not in jolly mood. I could easily understand why. She was helping her husband manage the shop in a new place.

Ram Babu Ghimire is hopeful about the future. He continues his struggle by setting up a new shop on the Kathmandu foot path. Pic by Wagle.

His mother Mana Kumari Ghimire, now 55, established the shop in front of Rato Ghar 14 years ago. “I use to participate in Julus then,” Ghimire said, “Mother opened this shop and I started working here.” Now his mother sells newspapers and books in New Road. “So many people used to come in the shop for papers and books,” Ghimire said while putting a box of books on the foot path. “Leaders, students, teachers all used to come. People buying the papers were more than those who just stand and read in front of the shop.”

To my pleasant surprise, pedestrians instantly surrounded the new shop. Some of them picked up books and started turning pages, some pulled papers up. Economically speaking, we are the 11 poorest nation on planet. But that doesn’t mean we have to live though the intellectual poverty. We have every right to read, to study, to gain knowledge. But the rulers of current regime doesn’t want us to do exactly that.

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i dont understand one thing, whether this “rato ghar” was being rented out to the student organization…or had they just “captured” it and were not paying rent….
just a little curious

Comment by shanker — 5/12/2005 @ 12:25 am

Dinesh, I did not read an obvious fact surrounding this Rato Ghar incidence. The quesion is why the royal “government” (your pharase) want this buillding at this particular location and moment?

For me, it’s not just to kick out the students. KGBs are well aware that one of branches of the road in fron of the bldg. leads to the royal palace. In 1990, thousands of the protesters took this street to invade the palace. Buy putting up armed forces, KGBs hope to turn KG’s palace safer. Look, the palace’s wall have become thicker and taller. What’s the implication of all this?

Palace thinks that its sucurity will be enhanced by guns and tall walls, not by winning the hearts and the minds of the people.

In the meantime, keep your eyes on other streets leading to KG’s palace. KGBs will put up armed forces at every corner of the palace. Who will tell KG that guns and armed forces are poor indicators of the good health of kings?

Comment by pita — 5/12/2005 @ 12:25 am

I feel sad to see all this. Dinesh, your sympathy and understanding of Ram’s condition is commendable. But , sympathy for the ANNFSU?
Why?
They are nothing but a militant student organization whose main task is solely to organize bandhs for their political masters. Why, Nepal lacks behind every nation in every parameter in this world is beacuse we have leaders that are groomed from heavily biased organizations like ANNFSU. ANNFSU, may have contributed heavily to the democracy movement in the 90’s but it has lost track in its own mypoic undestanding of what Nepal and its people needs. KIng G’s measure may not be correct at all, but ANNFSU has not shown that they deserve a place in that Rato Ghar.

Comment by Santosh — 5/12/2005 @ 1:17 am

My gosh, I had seen that guy 5 yrs ago when I used to walk down the lanes of Ratnapark…Its sad that these Royal henchmen are taking horrendous routes to amass public support!

Comment by Blogbahini — 5/12/2005 @ 4:42 am

Dinesh while you are right that sorry people like this one used to be there and discourse would take place int he afternoon, it is also true that at night this house would be a whore house with booze, prostitutes and drug peddlars. The ANNFSU should hire out another house.

Comment by Sreejana Singh — 5/12/2005 @ 2:17 pm

Pita where were those studnets when muslim had made taller masijid then ghanta ghar…. Pita…

Comment by Sujit Sigdel — 5/12/2005 @ 2:54 pm

was it his right to stay there?
so what is the meaning og mourning?

Comment by suresh iwahang — 5/12/2005 @ 3:35 pm

Why They Were Not Invited

Madam Rocca is looking for Democracy in Nepal

By Dinesh Wagle

Isn’t she Mr [American] ambassador [James F.] Moriarty? I think Mr. [Prakash Chandra] Lohani should know about her quest. Pic by Wagle.

While attending a talk program on “Nepal-US Relations Today” organized jointly by the Institute of Foreign Affairs and the American Center this afternoon, I found the ‘better half’ of the theme of the program terribly missing. Visiting assistant Secretary of State Christina Rocca was the chief guest (not specifically mentioned so) of the program and problem Nepal is experiencing currently was main theme of the talks. That is to say the Maoist problem, Feb 1 derailment of democracy, detention of political activists. Plus, US assistance to Nepal for development and for curbing insurgency. Rocca spoke in detail about US presence in Nepal.

Another speaker on the program was Prakash Chandra Lohani, former foreign minister and co-chairman of newly formed Surya Bahadur Thapa political group, Nepal Janasakti Party. I was not amazed that this royalist supported the Feb 1 royal takeover by stating in his written speech that “His Majesty has repeatedly expressed… his ‘unflinching commitment to multiparty democracy.’ There is no need to doubt its sincerity.” I am not going to explain Dr Lohani why there is an urgent need to doubt the royal intention but want to talk about the program itself. The better half thing.

Both speakers (Rocca and Lohani), as I have already mentioned, talked about current turmoil in Nepal. Lohani used the term derailment of democratic process somewhere in his speech but that disappeared deep inside his lecture. I had to look through his speech as many as three times to find those terminologies. Here is what I found prominently mentined. “It is not my intention here to blame anyone individual or any political parties for this failure [of not being able to have coordination] and “consistency in the views among constitutional forces regarding the strategy of dealing with Maoist terror.” His real intention, I felt, was to criticize political forces and support the royal takeover.

Pro-democratic political parties, who are the major stakeholders, were not represented in the program. They are the ‘better half’ of the current situation in Nepal. Without them, no problem can be solved in this country. Why political parties were ignored and not invited in the program?

I am trying to break the code. Look at one of the organizers. Institute of Foreign Affairs (IAF) that is headed by Nischal Nath Pandey. N N Pandey? Yes, son of Ramesh Nath Pandey, the foreign minister of royal government. Crystal clear? The only consoling thin is that Madam Rocca is personally visiting political leaders and holding talks with them.

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THANK YOU AMERICA FOR BEING A TRUE FRIEND OF NEPAL!!!!!

Comment by Bir Ghale — 5/10/2005 @ 8:29 pm

What’s wrong in NN Pandey organizing the seminar? He is a well known writer himself. He doesn’t need to be blamed for being some minister’s son. Why don’t the political parties organize similar talk programs so that Rocca could participate?

Comment by Ram — 5/10/2005 @ 8:42 pm

yes, if Mr. NN Pandey was airegaire ko choro he would be made head of an institute so early? There are hundreds of writers like NN Pandey. Do they get wow posts like him? He is the son of that RN Pandey so that’s why he is there at the top. Prakash Chandra Lohani, another [icd].

Comment by maya — 5/10/2005 @ 10:46 pm

NN pandey is the son of RN pandey that’s why he was able to get that post. common there are hundreds of writers out there like NN Pandey whoa re struggling day and night for bread and butter.

Comment by hari — 5/10/2005 @ 10:49 pm

“Pro-democratic political parties, who are the major stakeholders, were not represented in the program. They are the ‘better half’ of the current situation in Nepal. Without them, no problem can be solved in this country. Why political parties were ignored and not invited in the program?”

Please come again. Unless you’re a party karyakarta yourself, it is surprising to hear such remark from a aspiring fair minded blogger. Can you give us a single thing the parties have to offer to the table right now? What would it take for you to see that majority of current crisis has their root in indecisive, incompetent action of one party leader or the other?

Comment by rik — 5/11/2005 @ 6:09 am

well i think prakash chandra lohani and the pple from his party are about to come to power!thas why he spoke in favour of the aid being given by the u.s ti nepal!

Comment by tarkasur — 5/11/2005 @ 7:28 am

I am not understanding. This program was not only organized by the Institute of NN Pandey but also by the American Center of the U.S Embassy. Isn’t it? Then why are we crying foul that the party leaders were not invited?

Comment by Aparna Rawat — 5/11/2005 @ 9:57 am

America has a long history of supporting undemocratic leaders!

As long as they allow them to use their territory for American geostrategical purposes, America pardons dictators regularly. These leaders are then brought into dependency and the countries become in fact some kind of American colonies.

So it is easy to understand, that the majority of americanized Nepali prefers to be sold to America instead of being sold to India.

Have a look at other countries, who have been ‘helped’ by America,except Germany to whom America has truely helped, all other countries are still completely undemocratic now after years of American help and friendship.

May the Nepali find confidence in their own power and overcome their collective inferiority complex, King Kong

Comment by King Kong — 5/13/2005 @ 7:42 pm

Finally, Nepali Political Parties Have One Voice Now

Nepal parties declare a road map for democracy

Seven major pro-democratic political parties in Nepal created history today by agreeing upon a common agenda for the restoration of democracy. Top leaders of Nepali Congress, CPN UML, NC Democratic, Janamorcha Nepal, Nepal Workers’ and Peasants’ Party, Nepal Sadbhavana Party (Anandidevi) and Samyukta Bammorcha gathered in a Kathmandu hotel this afternoon to announce the agenda titled ‘Rastriya Sankat Samadhan Ka Laagi Sajha Sahamati Ra Pratibaddha Ko Ghoshana’. (Declaration of common agreement and commitment to resolve National Crisis). Leaders didn’t disclose the date for starting the democratic movement. From left to right: Chitrabahadur Ale (Janamorcha), Bhogendra Thakur (Sadhbavana), Gopalman Shrestha (NCD), G P Koirala (NC), MK Nepal (UML), Narayan Man Bijukchhe (NWPP) and CP Mainali (SB). Pic by Wagle.

The Six-point agenda stresses on the necessity of the end of king’s direct and autocratic rule (point no. 2) and restoration of the House of Representatives (point no 3). The first point goes like this: The country is no suffering from two extremes ultra left Maoist communism and ultra right direct rule of the king. We can’t solve the burning problems of the country without getting rid of these two extremes. Democracy and rule by people’s representatives is the sole base for national consensus among all kinds of national forces in the national politics. The fourth point of the agenda outlines major working list for the solution of national crisis.

1. Formulation of government responsible to parliament.
2. Management of armed conflict and establishment of sustainable peace.
3. Commitment toward progressive program.

The sixth point states about holding a national election.

Leaders of the seven parties signed the papers in front of journalists. Girija Prasad Koirala led the signing ceremony. Madhav Kumar Nepal followed. While they were signing the papers, leaders of second generations who were seated just behind the row of top leaders were keenly watching. Mahesh Acharya, central committee member of Nepali Congress read the agenda for journalists. While Acharya was reading the paper, leaders were served coffee (or tea, I couldn’t figure out. But I saw Koirala leading the drinking ceremony too. CP Mainali who was presented the tea first shyly pushed the cup on his front. He pulled the cup only after Koirala sipped once.)

There was no question answer session. After Acharya read out the statement, the ceremony was abruptly declared end. Some scribes tried to take out some stuff from leaders but they all kept mum. As Nepali scribes poured questions upon Koirala, he ignored them but answered to an Indian journalist’s queries in English while he was about to board his car.

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Many time in the past, these leaders have framed and signed on the common agenda. Many times people have been decieved. Who and how can people believe these common agenda? If they get chance to grab the power, any of these party leader will forget the agenda. This is the thing, exactly the same happened in the past also.

Comment by sita — 5/8/2005 @ 7:50 pm

at last they have come to a common agenda!thats good!i hope these guys dont repeat their previous mistakes!i hope they will run the country without being corrupt!i hope they sove the maoist problem by being united!i personally believe that the most important thing right now for the pple of nepal is peace!i hope the political parties bring peace to nepal!well this can happen only if the big dude allows them to do so !but the question is when?????????1 month 2 months 3 months 10 years 30 years?????lets hope watever happens will happen for the benifit of nepali pple!

Comment by tarkasur — 5/8/2005 @ 9:47 pm

Its difficult to believe. Let them first do the job then people will believe.

Comment by eruresia — 5/8/2005 @ 11:06 pm

…Congratulations ! This is what people want – unity among the parliamentarians in issues of national interest. This step should have been taken long back once maoists surfaced.

We people are for you if you are for us. Hope you prove our hopes right this time.

Comment by Madhesi — 5/9/2005 @ 12:48 am

It looks the same old faces of the past failed parties. We need truely new faces with new vision, with new democratics norms and values.

If MK Nepal, GPK truely believe they are good leaders, why donot they relized their past mistakes and step aside, have someone who can demostrates new vision of their paries. It is hard me to believe them after all those strategical mistakes they have made in the past 12 years.

Comment by Pashupati — 5/9/2005 @ 1:27 am

The real agenda of the Political Parties:

– Unite to grab power

– Unite to fool again we Nepalese people

– The King will give Democracy to Nepalese. Why not do something and earn some brownie points.

– Unite to escape from the dragnet of RCCC

These bunch of incompetent idiots are responsible for the political mire/crisis Nepal is in today. Had they had any self-respect they would have retired from politics.

Never were you all united to govern Nepal properly. All of you were responsible for the “13 Prime Ministers in 13 years”.

WE NEPALESE HAVE NO HOPE FROM YOU ALL.

Comment by Budbak — 5/9/2005 @ 2:16 am

I would like to congratulate seven parties for the agreement. I am so happy to see the agreement not between seven parties but excluding two palace sponsored thug parties – RPP and RJP. Instead of having six point agenda, the parties should have only one agenda – Let us use Article 127 to get rid of this bottleneck called “anarchy monarchy”

Comment by XYZ — 5/9/2005 @ 7:36 am

Congratulations to the parties. Good luck.

Comment by ABC — 5/9/2005 @ 7:39 am

The so called “One voice” had different meaning to each party.

Comment by Electra — 5/9/2005 @ 8:41 am

I agree- same old faces. They say old habits die hard. I know I should be excited with this news but I am not. Do I trust these faces? No. Do I believe they can finally come together and work for a common cause? Not really. Not single one of them has a respectable track record. HOWEVER, this is was a necessary step under the circumstances. Maybe I will keep my fingers crossed this time.

Comment by sameer — 5/9/2005 @ 9:35 am

What a repeated attempt from these politicians to fool us, Nepalese. It’s nice to see that most of we Nepalese brothers and sisters knew their dirty trick to capture the seats and increase their bank balance. These politicians are unable to give logical reason to make us believe because they know they are wrong and we know better than them. They know the Nepalese people have become alert against their dirty mission to capture power, so they try to show they are united. It’s all their dirty game my friends please don’t enter inside it otherwise it’s difficult to get out from it again.

Comment by Once fooled Nepalese — 5/9/2005 @ 9:37 am

Look at their faces. No body seems happy for what they did. They must be thinking when they will get power and can fill their stomach again as they seems hungry for long time.

Comment by Satish — 5/9/2005 @ 9:46 am

Congratulation for the political party. Although it is very late, they realized their common understanding and potential role in Nepal for stability and peace. I hope they will consider the Maiost voices also liberally to give them a safe landing of their so called “revolution” and return Nepal to the peace, trinquality and development once again.
Ram

Comment by Ram — 5/9/2005 @ 10:18 am

It is a long a long movement to restore democracy, so the agreement must not be broke.

Comment by hemraj — 5/9/2005 @ 12:27 pm

These corrupet politican want to start the looting the country again. So they have united. They should know that being one time fool is simple and being fooled again and again you have to be idiot and Neapli are not idiots.

Comment by Raj — 5/9/2005 @ 1:03 pm

What a joke!!!! That they will first revive the old parliament and then on form an all-party government. How will there be an all-party government when the NC is in a majority there? GPK will be Prime Minister for life. After the HOuse has been revived, there will be a major fight on who will become Prime Minister?? This is all a joke. Nobody is amused.

Comment by Srijana Tamrakar — 5/9/2005 @ 2:35 pm

Look at their faces. Same old crooks. Reviving parliament and then getting the Pajeros back again. What a beautiful idea. Nobody will participate in their jana andolaan. It is not our andolan. It is the movement of the politicians to get back power, money, women, booze, and what not.

Comment by Astha Thapa — 5/9/2005 @ 2:37 pm

what a sham!!!! These people (the leaders) should clean up their acts within their parties…like Girija being president even when his term is expired, who can nominate his cronies in the Working Committee, and Madhave Nepal who can kickass Oli and others. When these people cannot provide democracy within their own parties, what democracy do they give to the people? It is just a lust for power and to loot nation once again. These people are so confused that they cannot even say what Maoists are – are they terrorists or political force. One statement from people like Ram saran Mahat, maoists are political forces but their actions are not. He should know what his statement means because no one else does. It is like saying Girija stole money from the public coffers but he is not a corrupt person. They agree only to destroy whatever little is left of our nation. We trust snake more than these bunch of idiots.

Jai Desh! Jai Matribhumi!! Jai Nepal!!!

Comment by Moonflower — 5/9/2005 @ 3:05 pm

FINALLY!!!

Thank God they realised they need to unite. All I can do now is pray and hope that this is genuine and that they shall remain united for the voice of the people.

PLEASE LEADERS FIGHT FOR US INSTEAD OF YOURSELVES AND POWER, WE ALL RELY ON YOU TO GIVE DEMOCRACY BACK TO THE PEOPLE

All left now is a lot of optimisnm

Comment by suvecha — 5/9/2005 @ 3:14 pm

Good days are coming
Power, money and prado are coming
Pretty pretty girls are also coming
This time no chance of regression
All comfort, privilege and verdict to loot for possession
What a lovely idea
re-instatement of old privileges
Let’s go together hand in hand
This is the meaning of democracy-
loot by the people, for the people to the people

Comment by Sreeejana — 5/9/2005 @ 3:30 pm

“loot by the people, for the people to the people ” as sreeeeejana
they are now ready again to loot and escap from rccc

Comment by basnet — 5/9/2005 @ 5:37 pm

Tehi, ta ho ni ,,,,,
Until one of the seven get the chair of Priminister. If King throws A BREAD OF PRIMEMINISTERSHIP to any one among the seven they will be ready to collapse the coalition.

Elephant ko khane mouth a show garne mouth alag huncha hoina!

Comment by Damber Khanal — 5/9/2005 @ 7:34 pm

DESh BARBADI ka NAYAK HARU
AAj desh ko jun dasha cha tyo tapi haru ko anudar ka karan le garda ho. What vision do u hold and why should we support we?
Can u really solve the problem like maoist. ? CAn you bring back us the land like kalapani? Can you give us democracy ?
Can you take actions upon corrupted party icons?
I don’t think that u can do any thing . I think before to start democractic revolution we should through all these peoples in to container or they should be given visa to any country they wish and should be dumped away from nepal
The only thing they can do is to sign a common agenda ( not clear , most confusing )to get in to power. THESE PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THIS SITUATION IN TO MY COUNTRY. I CURSE THEM . I WONT FORGIVE THEM. THEY ARE INCAPABLE AND VISIONLESS. MEDIA PLEASE LET’S NOT WITH THEM. LET US FIRST START REBUILTING OUR CONCEPT FOR DEMOCRACCY.
WE HAVE TO DO IT NOT THESE BLOODY NETAS

Comment by DJ — 5/9/2005 @ 8:12 pm

माधब कुमार नेपाल ले सता पाउना साथ ६ दल बाकि हुनेछ !

Comment by basnet — 5/9/2005 @ 9:54 pm

These Power hungry Crooks.

Even cows & buffaloes once in a while look up at the sky as if to thank God, but these politicians after stealing crores of rupees never look up. Do they have any conscience?

Comment by Bir Ghale — 5/9/2005 @ 10:10 pm

New Cabinet…
Girija – Prime Minister
Sujata – Sallahakar (Sablai Tharkayera feri Ghus ra Bank balance bhadaune)
Mahesh Acharya – Artha (Girija babu lai paisa ta chahiyo ni)
Khum Bahadur – Griha (Daka haru lai feri naka ta kholnu paryo ni)
Bijaya – Yatayat
Yehi nai hun feri desh banauna tamsi raheka haru..14 barsa hami lai narka ko jindagi behorna badhya parne haru…
Tyes mathi feri UML ta chadai chha arko dukha ko poko..Khilyo ki ganaune..
Khabardar sathi haru ho..

Comment by kash — 5/10/2005 @ 4:23 am

लोभी र पापीहरुको भेट भाको हो यो। उनीहरुलाइ नैतिक बलनै(Moral power) छैन यो आन्‍दोलन गर्न।

Comment by नेपाली मन — 5/10/2005 @ 11:05 am

maybe old faces ?
but Nepal has been thrown back to 50 years back, back to chakari system of “yes men” of Rana times
who really helped the maoists at the beginning ?
who always refused to do its job of protecting the country ?
who stayed in barracks instead of fighting, refusing to obey a legitimate elected government ?
who requested perks like banks, aitline, whatever?
under somebody’s order ?
since 3 years the so -called “governement” had anyway no power left, except that of increasing absurdly Narayan Hity’s civil list (for the richest man of the country)
-the present self-appointed leadership deliberately let the situation rot in order to justify the takeover , to accuse then “democracy”
-what is their project ? none but absolute power of a few say dreamers, back to Rana era – that was absolute misery end despondency for 95 per cent of the Nepali people
no developpement, you’ll get money only by slaving abroad, inside , be quiet or we have a big army ! and believe our propaganda, make lies truth and truth lies
that is populism also : “fight against coouption” , so funny, just look at the fighters, look at their past
-Panchayat was state-run corruption, top to bottom, democracy simply followed the old track- with a difference, you can denounce the corrupted
-what kind orf people who are sending to court (and what kind of a court) a faithful servant like was Deuba ?
-some people are mad with power, they want more, they want blood, they love to see their fellow countrymen despair- call them maobadi or rajabadi, same hate, same raste for blood

Comment by karma — 5/10/2005 @ 2:16 pm

I would rather be ruled by corrupt politicians that I can vent my anger at publicly than be ruled by corrupt politicians that I cannot say anything against. Guess which one applies to us right now?

Comment by sameer — 5/10/2005 @ 3:57 pm

Only in prison can someone find so many thieves at one place.

These politicians are really lucky to be Nepal and are facing Nepali media that is silent on their corruption. Had these politicians been in a western country, by now they would hiding their faces in public.

“Donkey ride” with a garland of shoes is what these theives deserve.

Comment by Pradeep Sharma — 5/10/2005 @ 4:05 pm

Media plz. let’s not discover that these people can solve and can restore democracy. We have seen these people from past sixteen yrs. It has been proven they can do nothing. So thinking of giving chance one more time to these incapable seven people is just doing like goru lai dhoyer(wash garer) gai banunu jastai ho I belive new youngsters can drive absolutely the nepal of 21st century. So let’s promote new youngs, new ideas and new brain. This will be new concept for restoring democracy in real.

Comment by D.J — 5/10/2005 @ 4:52 pm

फेरिस स्टेट युनिभर्सिटी मिचिगनका प्रोफेसर र एसोसिएसन अफ नेपालीज इन मिडवेस्ट अमेरिकाका अध्यक्ष्ा समेत भइसकेका डा खगेन्द्र थापाको विचारमा शाही कदम नेपाली जनतालाई निर्वाचित अपराधीहरूबाट जोगाउन आएको हो । त्यस्तै न्युयोर्कका दीप्त शाह र क्यालिफोर्नियाको मदरल्यान्ड अफ नेपालका अध्यक्ष अनिल पाण्डे पनि थापाकै जस्तो विचार राख्छन् ।

Comment by basnet — 5/10/2005 @ 11:06 pm

a basnet praises thapa, shah and pandey. Nepal has not changed for the past 200 years. very good summary of nepal’s history and society, basnet.

Comment by pita — 5/12/2005 @ 11:03 am

“a basnet praises thapa, shah and pandey”

People like ‘pita’ have always racially discriminated against the hill people. “Pahad ko Nepali ” must be conscious of their rights else these “pita” type of people will push you down the drain.

Comment by Saket Rai — 5/13/2005 @ 1:27 am

My son, who was five during the American election of 2004, was apparently so enthused by the news coverage that he came to me and said “dad, I want to be the president too!”

“Well,” I told him, “you can’t be the president of the US, because you were not born here.”

“Then I will be the president of Nepal,” he said.

“No,” I said, “in Nepal we have a King. But, in theory, you could be the Prime Minister”

“Yeah!” he joyously exclaimed, “then I will be the Nepal prime minister!”

“No babu,” I said seriously, “you can’t because a person named Girija will never let you.”

As funny as it may sound, that is what I think about Nepal’s politicians. All they are after is power and wealth. Had they thought about more important things like Nepal, development, strengthening of democracy, we would not be blogging about Asoj 4 or February 1.

Now the same apes claim to be “united” to bring democracy back to Nepal? What is their qualification to do so. If they were employed in the private sector they would have been fired a long time ago. It’s only their idiocy that leads them to believe that the Nepali people do not understand their farce.

Let them try bringing democracy to hell, when they get there. And I hope that day comes sooner rather than later. Bring democracy to their own parties first and then lecture us about what they are capable of doing…

Comment by a_nepali — 5/13/2005 @ 9:09 pm

First Step toward Peace is Restoration of Parliament

Nepal parties set common agenda for democratic movement

By Dinesh Wagle

King Gyanendra, the Chief Executive of the country, says Nepal has chosen PEACE as its agenda. Seven political parties, armed with, I still believe, popular support for free society have agreed to choose ‘RESTORATION of PARLIAMENT’ as a common agenda of democratic movement. Yes, all Nepalis want peace in society and fortunately, king has repeated his ‘desire’ to restore democracy but only after peace is established. The question, it seems, is which first. Peace or Democracy? This is a silly question. These two can’t be separated from each other. There is no use of peace without democracy because that would be, as Girija Prasad Koirala put it rightly in journalists conclave last week, Murda Shanti or dead peace. Who would want to live in ‘dead peace’ environment where you can’t have your say? We want and need both at the same time and if we play our mind rightly we can achieve both at the same time.

According to reports published in Himalayan Times and some Kathmandu papers, the seven political parties have finally realized that the king seized power in the absence of the parliament. Well, there is no doubt by now that parliament was dissolved (on May 22, 2002) as part of a grand design to pave way for the Feb 1 royal takeover. Parties, especially CPU UML and some others took time to realize this. Nepali Congress, Nepal Workers’ and Peasants’ Party, Janamorcha Nepal and Nepal Sadbhavana Party (Anandadevi) were for this option from the very beginning.

Taking nomination of Sher Bahadur Deuba as the correction of regression CPN UML hastily pulled out from the five party movement and enthusiastically joined the nominated government. [UML was for all party government.] That was a setback for the movement against regression. People’s power was divided. It’s good that that was a grave mistake and the party realized that on Feb 1. And now UML has extended its support of restoration of parliament.

National consensus is the most important for the progress of a society. Such understandings help people achieve goals that are considered difficult otherwise. Look toward south. Congress and Communists have come together under the banner of United Progressive Alliance (UPA) to counter the common enemy: BJP. Parties in Nepal too have common enemy and common goal. Parties and people can’t thrive without democracy. Parties here means people. When you have common enemy, unite and fight together. That’s what happened in 1990 and united power of people won.

People, though tired with political parties, were eagerly waiting for a common agenda, common minimum program, from parties even before Feb 1 [after October 2002]. In fact, they wanted parties to carry on the spirit of 1990 i.e. united stand on important issues, in democratic time as well. Parties never addressed that desire of people seriously. Instead, they kept indulging themselves in blocking parliamentary proceedings for days and creating havoc on the streets for petty issues. People voted so that a powerful opposition would always be there to scrutinize government activities and feed constructive inputs to the establishment. That rarely happened and enemies of democracy exploited the vulnerability.

Some people might see parties’ ‘hunger for power’ in this common agenda (restoration of democracy). Some might say why restoration of parliament, the same parliament whose legitimate term has already finished. So what? If restoration of parliament help solve problem of the country, then why oppose the move. That would be a political decision. Even in Burma, there is a talk of resuming parliamentary process that was ceased even before a government was formed after the election. Parties won’t limit themselves in that agenda once house is revived. They will definitely go ahead from that point. Koirala has already told that revival of the house in only starting point. We can go forward from that point. Parliament or representative of people’s sovereignty should hold talks with rebels and solve the problem. There is simple no military solution of the conflict.

What next? Well, lets be optimistic. Now that the common agenda has finally accepted by all parties, we can only hope an effective movement on way in the days to come.

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6 Responses to “First Step toward Peace is Restoration of Parliament”

munflower Says:
May 7th, 2005 at 4:15 pm

The viewpoint that I gather from this writeup is that common man is really happy that these political parties have finally agreed on the common agenda to restore peace and democracy in Nepal.

Do the political parties feel that it is so easy to restore peace? If they do think so, then whose stopping them? They were in power and position for last 12 years or so. When they could not take any step towards that direction during that tenure, then what is the guarantee that they will do so now? What have they done is effectively screwed up livelihood and future of twenty million people because of lack of foresightedness and sense of purpose.

They were paupers and suddenly they have millions. Should we believe that they can do good? At least I cannot believe that because these people define everything on their terms and for their selfish needs. Moreover the King has put a bet on his kingdom, his kingship to restore peace. He has put lots of things in stake, what so-called political parties and leaders can pledge? Their leaders run to India and shout from Delhi demanding peace.

If they were ideologically strong, they would have protested from within. All they need is power and for that, they will even sleep with the devil. These people are not worth it…so do not waste time writing on these stupid issues. The need of the hour is the survival of the nation, then peace. If these survive and brought forward, democracy automatically follows. You cannot take the third step without taking first and second step.

Jai Desh! Jai Matribhumi!! Jai Nepal

Shuvatara Says:

May 7th, 2005 at 7:32 pm
Look how all parties have agreed to nail their own coffins !! How can a dead house be alive again? It is silly and illogical. What will foreign countries think of us when they have already supported the announcement of municipal elections? Just because all parties agree in one agenda , it doesn’t mean that it has to be aacceptable to the people. Besides, what did they do when the parliament was in session? They all agreed to bring duty free pajeros and land cruisers. They all looted parliament’s money in bizarre things like men taking money for pregnancy medicine expense. Three parliaments were dissolved without letting it complete its tenure. What love do they have towards the parliament?

Pashupati Says:

May 8th, 2005 at 2:52 am
Way to go Shuvatara, I agree with your comment, but we don’t need approval of the foreign countries in our interal house matters. We must raise these issues of duty free Pajeros cultures.

We must asked ouself why donot we retroactiveted( taxes) to charge on those Pajeros those MPS and other higher officials have used duty free access to the automobiles.They must pay taxes like ordinary people of Nepal have paid for it.

Raj Says:

May 9th, 2005 at 1:00 pm
The political parties want to resote the house of representative so they can get the salary, and all the parkes of the last three years. hopefully the even the male member want the pregnescy bhatta. Who want these corrupt politician?

yodam Says:

May 10th, 2005 at 7:46 am
finally, good to see them realize revival of the parliament as the point to begin with. better late than never. of course, they were largely responsible for this hatred about democracy among Nepalese people but they can (and should) also be the ones to reverse it, not the king. King’s democracy is about putting everyone into the jail; anyone who does not agree to him. but how is it different from what maoists are for? we cant worship someone because he/she has guns. neither can he know more than the rest because he has guns. our king and the Maoists claim to know the solution to the country’s problems on the basis of the number of guns they have. but does that make sense?

about restoring peace first; its absolutely impossible thru force. you can kill everyone opposed to you and decalre peace as there wont be too many people to speak back. but is that what we want? we should realize that democracy is the only way out and the derailed constitution should be brought back to the track by reviving the dissolved house of parliament. we can always teach the corrupt leaders a lesson once the democracy is back.

D. Michael Van De Veer Says:

October 7th, 2005 at 11:44 pm
may I suggest the “FIRST STEP TOWARD PEACE”, is to REMOVE THE MAFIA FROM THE PALACE !

Kathmandu Drama: Gagan Thapa Released, Arrested

Nepal Democracy Movement: Student Leader Arrested Again

Gagan Thapa addressing a corner meeting in Baneshowr a few dats before he was arrested on April 26. Pic by CSK

The ruling of the Supreme Court in Nepal became the subject of public mockery today when Nepali authorities staged the artless drama of releasing Gagan Thapa, a prominent student leader, only to re-arrest him within seconds in the same police compound. Gagan has been shifted to Kharipati, Bhaktpur from Kathmandu District Police Office in Hanuman Dhoka this evening. The Supreme Court, earlier today, had ordered the authorities to release Gagan and other two student activists (Subodh Acharya and Sandesh Adhikari) because they were illegally detained by the police since April 26. Today’s government move is the naked violation of the spirit of the Supreme Court ruling and this act of the royal administration clearly proves that there is no independent judiciary in this country. I got an opportunity to meet and talk to Gagan inside the police office approximately 2 hours before the drama took place. Meanwhile, another top student leader Keshav Sing is seriously ill in detention.

(Read about another Drama in United We Blog in Nepali: Live account of today’s RCCC ‘courtroom’ drama on former Prime Minister Sher Bahadur Deuba case is available in our Nepali edition. Deuba said, “I don’t speak to you. When I say I don’t speak to you, I mean to say I don’t speak to you.”)

Keshav Singh, President of Nepal Student Union (NSU) can’t breath properly because there is low oxygen in the room where he is kept in Hanuman Dhoka. “Yesterday evening he was very much serious and couldn’t breath properly,” Gagan said, “We told police to take him to hospital but they haven’t listened yet.” Gagan said that they have been kept in the lower part of the building where there is no sufficient flow of air. “This is a kind of mental torture,” he said, “We have been kept with burglars and other criminals.”

Gagan told United We Blog! he will start a hunger strike in detention from tomorrow. “I will continue my struggle against this regime from inside jail,” he said firmly, “I urge all freedom and democracy loving Nepali people to rise for democracy in an effective way.”

He, one of the most charismatic student leaders of recent times, said that political parties should immediately find a common ground for a unified movement. “Its too late,” he said, “Already three months gone and we haven’t have a common agenda yet. Why? We shouldn’t waste time. How can we take our movement forward if we take this much time even to find a common agenda?”

I questioned him whether he was sure about people’s participation in the movement for democracy. “Yes, I completely believe people’s aspiration for democracy. They are for democracy. But parties should make their agenda very clear and easily understandable for public. Parties should be able to communicate with people via their common agenda.”

Gagan who commands a strong support among young students in Nepal had been in the eyes of authorities ever since Feb 1 royal takeover because of his strong views for the need of democracy and capability to mobilize students in the movement. In today’s interview, Gagan opined that democratic movement and reform (restructuring) within parties should go simultaneously. “Yes, there is a need of reform in [Nepali Congress] party,” he said in the offices of Deputy Superintendent of Police, Kathmandu, “But we can’t get stumbled into that and forget democratic movement. That is even more important.”

He said: Me being released, [CPN UML General Secretary] Madav Nepal being released, or Emergency being lifted are not important issues at all. The most important issue is Democracy and taking democratic movement ahead effectively. We have to do that immediately. We should not limit ourselves reacting every petty moves of this government. We should fully concentrate toward the movement.”

Gagan said that he has been reading a novel and some children literature. He reads Kantipur daily.

Today the court ordered for his release at around 2 PM. Human rights activists and cadres of Nepal Student Union (of which Gagan is former general secretary) took that order to District Administration Office, Kathmandu. DAO wrote a letter to District Police Office Kathmandu ordering them to release Gagan and others. When HR activists reached Hanuman Dhoka with the orders from the court and DAP, police made them wait for 3 hours to see Gagan. I entered the room with fellow blogger Kiran Chapagain. Others waiting to see Gagan were two representatives of UN and two Danish nationals. After we waited there for about 15 minutes, slightly bearded Gagan popped up in a trouser and sandals.

Gagan was arrested in a midnight raid on April 26 along with Subodh Acharya and Sandesh Adhikari from Lainchour where he was staying in the house of Sandesh. “I think we should have changed the shelter,” he said, “We didn’t. That was our mistake. We are new in this kind of lifestyle. That day too, they found us when they were about to return from the search without finding us. We opened the lock of the room on the fifth floor of the house a bit earlier and one of the police heard the sound.”

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It is clear to this Journalist that Nepal is rushing to FASCISM. The arrest and re-arrest of Gagan Thapa, the abuse of journalist and the Getapo actions of te Security Forces should make this clear.

In an article I wrote, “WORLD PRESS FREEDOM DAY–ONLY A DREAM IN NEPAL”, I detailed the international human-rights and UN response to the activities of the Nepali Government.

Just as in Italy, Spain, Germany and other places in Europe FASCISM was sold to the people as “NATIONALISM” and a way to fight terrorism, corruption, and communism…………

To paraphrase a poem about Germany that should be a call to all who value freedom in Nepal..

FIRST THAY CAME FOR A COMMUNIST, AND I HEARD HIM CRY OUT,
BUT AS I WAS NOT A COMMUNIST, I DID NOT ANSWER HIS CALL.
THEN THEY CAME FOR A HOMOSEXUAL, AND I HEARD HIM CRY OUT,
BUT AS I WAS NOT A HOMOSEXUAL, I DID NOT ANSWER HIS CALL.
THEN THEY CAME FOR A TRADE UNIONIST,AND I HEARD HIM CRY OUT,
BUT AS I WAS NOT A TRADE UNIONIST, I DID NOT ANSWER HIS CALL.
THEN THEY CAME FOR A JOURNALIST, AND I HEARD HIM CRY OUT,
BUT AS I WAS NOT A JOURNALIST, I DID NOT ANSWER HIS CALL..
THEN THAY CAME FOR ME, AND I DID NOT CRY OUT AS THERE WAS NO ONE LEFT TO HEAR MY CALL

Comment by D.MICHAEL VANDEVEER — 5/6/2005 @ 8:31 am

the problem with US: invasion of collective nepali mind set with the likes of Kash. only idiots will make that kind of infantile baseless comments. This is not your living room where you can say the stupidiest thing and still they are taken as per delivered. Don’t you think you are missing something in your comment like: “Why would I say something like that”
I don’t know what kind of a man is Gagan what is he up to …and we are all interested in that. that’s what we want to know not an one liner insult that makes you look like an absolute idiot.

Comment by Quantum — 5/6/2005 @ 10:07 am

Quantum,

I am slower than the velocity of light, which I unfortunatley never could forget, alas, in that old unit – km/s (or new?). Never mind, Neil Bohr was weak in mathematics (he ran away from the King!!); so was stupid Einestein!! I was forunate enough I had heard about Quantum electrodynaics!!

But, I try it hard even in this old age. As a man who thought Newton was the greatest of the greatests, I wondered how on earth you knew somebody had an invasion of “collective” Nepali mind even before you were eager to know about Gagan.

Wait! I wanted a tuistion center in Putalisadak. I am just curious about quantuma fijiks. Do you have tuition center?

Comment by pita — 5/6/2005 @ 10:55 am

Talk in a way nobody understands. That’s why quantum, pita, paras and ganenda are greet in Nepal. I don’t need your quanum physics, tuition center or prash king.

Comment by harvey — 5/6/2005 @ 11:38 am

its damning when people start picking on someone’s names. madness. just shows how coward we are. i am sure we have better things to comment on.

Comment by yodam — 5/6/2005 @ 11:46 am

Pita, why on earth you are at war with me. U do look like a man with senile whinging syndrome who thinks Einstein was stupid. Your senile highness, your stupid digression is incoherent, boring and it’s a noise. What’s with the tuition centre obsession, OLD MAN>>>> looks like you were “malhandled” in one of those putali sadak tuition centre and showing typical Freudian pattern repeat syndrome. get bent, there most be other people around you.

One of the things you commented was, massively innocent, though interesting how come if I know what nepali collective mind set is, why don’t I know Gagan. I don’t know if you meant that with your bullshit jibberish. if you can’t differentiate between collective and individual…..Pita u are going to need some serious Tutoring.

Comment by Quantum — 5/6/2005 @ 12:20 pm

ha…ha…ha…, what is someone’s name yodam (i am sorry i picke up ur name? ha ha….i guess people can mangate things on earth better than the cleverers!! self-congratulations may not be too bad an idea.

Comment by harvey — 5/6/2005 @ 12:28 pm

well quantum ,
happy to see u here tooo. but didn’t get u any . ist let me convey my happinees that qed exists . i will look into it n wonder wat is it all after… i wonder if maxwell’s equations of electrodynamis have gone redundant . they were wrong in meissner effect in superconductivity .. but quantum qed: i really worrry wat is it all abt. i acquiesce i may be a toad in a small well . but let’s see
now let’s delve into this vulgur clamour shrouding gagan thapa .thapa is genesis of corruption in tri chandra . i myself being a tc student know it well.if u don’t belive me , go n ask the stupifeid leaves of those skeletal blue mimosa trees in front of the ghantaghar. or just pick up any student by his/her arm n ask wat is gagan about . i don’t know wat is wagle trying to establsish by garbing gagan with that unrequired charismatic adjective . ist of all , let’s put things right : the state is decayed .. the parties are rotten .. the maoists stink of ego n wrong philosophy .. . so where wud we go ? hell . isn’t it . can this gagan rescue us ? the admission fiasco of ma sociology has its history down to gagan’s roots. can a young guy hu looks good , talks good but has grown himself out of the illgotten money of poor students from all over the

country rescue us ? can he stop us from a looming doom . u see we need to acknowledge that darkness is just beginnning . the night has fallen n false glint of hope is wat wagle is selling or supplying . gagan is misnomer to charisma n leadership . talking loud n befreiending journalists doesn’t weave the path to heaven . if we do not discontinue with this wagle’s disease of hope , infernal putrefaction can’t be averted … i am sorry for all these hard facts

Comment by sisyphus sahrma — 5/6/2005 @ 1:29 pm

well quantum ,
happy to see u here tooo. but didn’t get u any . ist let me convey my happinees that qed exists . i will look into it n wonder wat is it all after… i wonder if maxwell’s equations of electrodynamis have gone redundant . they were wrong in meissner effect in superconductivity .. but quantum qed: i really worrry wat is it all abt. i acquiesce i may be a toad in a small well . but let’s see
now let’s delve into this vulgur clamour shrouding gagan thapa .thapa is genesis of corruption in tri chandra . i myself being a tc student know it well.if u don’t belive me , go n ask the stupifeid leaves of those skeletal blue mimosa trees in front of the ghantaghar. or just pick up any student by his/her arm n ask wat is gagan about . i don’t know wat is wagle trying to establsish by garbing gagan with that unrequired charismatic adjective . ist of all , let’s put things right : the state is decayed .. the parties are rotten .. the maoists stink of ego n wrong philosophy .. . so where wud we go ? hell . isn’t it . can this gagan rescue us ? the admission fiasco of ma sociology has its history down to gagan’s roots. can a young guy hu looks good , talks good but has grown himself out of the illgotten money of poor students from all over the

country rescue us ? can he stop us from a looming doom . u see we need to acknowledge that darkness is just beginnning . the night has fallen n false glint of hope is wat wagle is selling or supplying . gagan is misnomer to charisma n leadership . talking loud n befreiending journalists doesn’t weave the path to heaven . if we do not discontinue with this wagle’s disease of hope , infernal putrefaction can’t be averted … i am sorry for all these hard facts

Comment by sisyphus sharma — 5/6/2005 @ 1:29 pm

माफी माग्नुहोस्, गिरिजाबाबु

गिरिजाबाबु, प्रजातन्त्र र कांग्रेस बचाउन, कार्यककर्ताको मनोबल र उत्साह बढाउन आन्दोलन सफल पारी संसद् पुनःस्थापना गराउन सर्वप्रथम दुई कांग्रेस एक हुनुपर्छ । शान्तिपूर्ण आन्दोलन सफल पार्न बहुदलवादी दलका प्रमुख नेता आपसी मेलमिलाप र समझदारीबाट प्रजातन्त्र, मानवअधिकार, प्रेस स्वतन्त्रता बहाली गर्न शान्तिपूर्ण आन्दोलनको मुख्य उद्देश्य (लक्ष्य) को स्पष्ट धारणा जनतासामु राखिनुपर्छ ।

पत्रको बाँकी अंश ‘युनाइटेड वी ब्लग नेपालीमा‘ मा पढ्नुहोस् ।

रामकृष्ण पराजुली
चिप्लेढुंगा, पोखरा

Comment by रामकृष्ण पराजुली — 5/6/2005 @ 4:28 pm

Lets make quantum leap if not quantum physic
what the hell is going on here. By the way, Gagan is different and thinks differently. But, people will not come on the street untill and unless Currupted leaders are weeded out form the political parties. Gagan, come in the front and drive the political revolution towards the right direction. No dictator can put you behind the bar for long

Comment by Sw. Bodhi — 5/6/2005 @ 4:34 pm

I went to my old tri chandra today and put some questions to the “skeletal blue mimosa trees.” They told me a bit Koran and the rest about the history of kings…also a bit about kalo padartha and famouse grouse whisky and what not….or I did not ask proper questions in a proper language?

I also asked the trees about the “collective” mind. The response was blunt again -I need some lessons from quantum fijiks to understand and measure it. I ran away.

But hell. I was in Putali Sadak, where I was battered a few years ago. A number of language schools greeted me this time, but only to be disappointed….a senile mind told me jibberish or good English or RICH writing don’t make your argument sound!! I am disappointed; mabybe blogsphere is good for me. But at times I can’t stand the radiations from Q-rays.

Comment by pita — 5/6/2005 @ 8:16 pm

It is good to see Jay Prakash Gupta in Jail as politician like deserve such punishment BUT I strongly object rearrest of yong student leader Gagan Thapa. Person like Gagan Thapa are kept in police or army custody because they threaten the King and his government because these students are real fighters of democracy and who will lead our country based on the lessons learned from old rubbish, currupt, self serving, kurchi wala politicians like Girija koirala. Lets do whatever we can to restore democracy and get Gagan and his friends released
long live democracy
Atisha

Comment by Atisha Sherpa — 5/6/2005 @ 8:38 pm

If we were to take a litmus test of Gagan, what color would he turn into? I mean, if all colors in Nepal mean corruption, can this guy be any different? After all, he knows how to play ‘poli’ tricks!

Comment by Blogbahini — 5/7/2005 @ 9:57 am

Sw. Bodhi,

Are you an osho sannyasin? If yes, can you post your email add, mine is rresearch@gmail.com. I am intereted in Osho.

Sorry for disturbing the flow of discussion.

Comment by student — 5/8/2005 @ 2:42 am

it is not right to arrest him from the court, the government is trying to arrest the the brain, sentiment and freedom of all the political parties but it would be certainly brust, that may bring a flood which may sweep out the present rulers forever………..

Comment by suresh iwahang — 5/10/2005 @ 2:58 pm

Hello! Gagan!
you are in our heart, you would be always in frontline to lead the country we strongly support you. And do not be out of right track as and at any case that will be the curse to all of nationalist youngsters. Nepal Ama is on the way to give birth to few peoples like you. Mr Gagan you people must always do s.t. to lead the party the old blood should be swept out. We have no respect for the leader like Girija Koirala, Madhav Nepal, Deuba. who are solely responsible for bringing about present crisis. Let us Do or die for the people of nepal. King is not the contracter to develop the nation ! Come on Do some thing for the people for the nation!
dipnischal@yahoo.com

Comment by Mr Sunrise — 5/10/2005 @ 3:32 pm

i do not suppose that court can do any thing just because we already know that cj violating his own duty .it is only country with autocracy so we must fight from freedom and democracy whith repulbic.
thanks for fight for all students as weel as all people.

Comment by anup — 5/11/2005 @ 11:38 am

ROyal supreme court of nepal and royal c.j. would have no ethics, so he would do any thing ………….!

Comment by jaya — 5/11/2005 @ 1:13 pm

Live From Kathmandu- III

A reporter/blogger spends an hour observing activities of Ason Chowk where pro-democracy demonstrations and arrests are taking place these days.

By Dinesh Wagle on March 9th, 2005 in Wagle Street Journal

This woman told me that business in Ason was going as usual despite recent demonstrations and arrests there. Today’s price of tomatoes is Rs. 15 per Kilogram.

I am standing in a corner of Ason Chowk right now to see possible pro-democracy demonstrators in action. Different people with different looks, get ups, backgrounds are thronging in to Ason, from different entry points, from Bhatahitti, Rani Pokhari, Chhetrapati, Basantapur, Newroad pus other two- endlessly. So many allies come and merge at Ason Chowk. Girls in tight jeans and half exposed backs are entering the Chowk from one point and they exit but busy with talking themselves from another. Boys too have put their sweaters in their shoulders. The heat could already be felt in Ason. Climate is changing. Temperature is rising. This is the season of demonstrations. Nepalis have just lost their liberties.

These guys from Sweden were wandering here and there in Ason today. They did bungee jumping in north Nepal recently.
People are busy, unaware of what will happen next. They don’t care about that probably. Police are in constant vigilance. They are patrolling from one corner of Ason to another. Policemen are surrounding Ason from all four sides. It feels like as if Ason is a heavily fortified town that is expecting an imminent war. Two policemen are reading today’s issue of Jana Aastha Weekly.

A couple of foreigners is deeply analyzing a travel journal, possibly a Lonely Planet Guide Book. All the shops are open. Shopkeepers are busy, in fact, very busy, selling things or trying hard to do so. It’s really tough to convince unsatisfying customers these days.

A policeman just passed away from where I am standing and writing these lines with a star line ball point pen. He gave me a quick glance, a glance of suspicion probably. He might have thought that I am not a political demonstrator. If so, he is definitely not wrong.

Bells are ringing in the temple located in the mid of Ason Chowk: Dingâ ¦Tingâ ¦Dingâ ¦ Sound varies depending on how you hear them. Passers by stop for a brief darshan of the temple and they put Tika themselves on their forehead. God is there, they believe, and He is watching us all.

Even four pigeons, symbol of peace, are fearlessly collecting their food with their beaks amidst the sounds of bicycle, motorbikes, Rikshas (pow pow), temple bell. It seems they are used to with this kind of environment. Look, one of them is approaching so close to my foot. It seems, you can find everything in Ason that are available on planet Earth: from a Brazilian couple to tomatoes from India to carrots from Bhaktpur (yes, that’s in Nepal).

I reached Ason Chowk at around 3:30 PM and remained standing (sometime moving as well) for more than an hour. No demonstrations today.

Make Love, Not War (Against the King) ?

By Dinesh Wagle on February 14th, 2005 in Wagle Street Journal

Thirteen days after experiencing a dramatic political change in their country, Nepali people, mostly youth and in the city area are in a mood of celebration today. Know why? Valentine fever has caught them like a fire in an African jungle. Yes there are “huge huge” demonstrations (with not more than 100 people participating) and rallies (with around 30 people biking) that are strongly FOR Royal Takeover. I saw one of the rally a day back and by chance, captured that in my camera. Yes, I will post that here.
With many democratic political leaders (well, most of them are corrupt and damn corrupt, I am sorry I have to write the truth) still either under house arrest or behind bar, there is no immediate possibility of Pro-democratic rallies taking place on the streets. Some human rights activists were arrested for trying to protest the Royal move. Yes, freedom is the ultimate goal of Nepali people. I think, right now, people too don’t want to go to the streets shouting WE WANT DEMOCRACY under the leadership of same old and corrupted leaders as they did in 1990.

They want to give a chance to the King. They are thinking: “Well, after all, he did what he shouldn’t have done. But why not give him a chance? Lets see what he has on the card.” So, people in Nepal are waiting for King to deliver as per their expectation. I am sure, that delivery will demand a hard ‘labour’ from the King. I am wondering how many months, if not year, King will take for that delivery. Till then, nobody seems to be mourning the imprisonment of political leaders.

Yes, let’s come to the Valentine fever. Devendra, my pal at Kantipur who is full of tons of sense of humour has just arrived from a theater where he saw the latest Sanjay Leela Bhansali epic Black. He was in melodramatic mood. The film made him serious. I cried thrice while watching the same movie. He couldn’t hold tears at least once.

He told me that the city has been covered with Valentine love. He is single and, I pity him, went to cinema alone in the mid day. Good that he saw so many lovebirds. He seemed to be satisfied just by seeing those pairs. At once, some weeks back, I still remember, he told me that he wasn’t going to marry…not at all, never. Today, I think, he will change his mind..

“Oh..pal,” he came saying, “I think the valentines day has become a sort of National festival. I feel like that today. Every where people are talking about Valentines Day.” Though the Valentine culture is relatively new in Nepalese society, it hasn’t taken much time to grab the influence. Several gift- and flower-shops are doing terribly good business and one of them told a reporter yesterday that the way people express their love has changed dramatically. “They have become more frank,” she told. Well, when it comes to politics, they are not trying to be very much frank, really.

Well, nobody’s talking about the political change. Nobody wants to be politically incorrect. So, everybody wants to talk about LOVE, not war with power seizing MONARCHY. Nobody is talking about the ongoing Bloody People’s War that has taken several thousand lives in the last 10 years. Why would they talk? They have, in city, a gift to present to their Romeo or Juliet. They have money to buy that gift. And, the most important thing is they are in city and are not dying indiscriminately either by the Maoist Guerillas or Security forces. City is in the mood to make love. Not in war…not with King, at least.

1 Response to “Make Love, Not War (Against the King) ?”

1. pathak Says:
February 14th, 2005 at 6:49 pm

I agree with Dinesh that there is no immediate possibility of Pro-democratic rallies taking place on the streets. but freedom is the ultimate goal of Nepali people. SOthat Nepali people will revolt from their own homeland which may be sustainable .People will shout WE WANT DEMOCRACY under the new leadership because critical time born the new leader.