Democracy Effect: Smiling Face of Thamel

An emotional blog: Tourists are coming, economing is about to boom! Thank you Democracy!

By Dinesh Wagle
Wagle Street Journal

I know I had said I would be away from computer from this afternoon but this addiction never goes away easily. I am in Thamel and early in the morning tomorrow, I would be driving to Beshishahar. I am compelled to write something after I went around Thamel, one of the most happening towns in Kathmandu. And I am here to compare Thamel, the tourist hub in the capital city with another equally vibrant town called New Road. The Dashain fever has gripped both of these places. New Road at 6:30 PM was quite and calm as almost all shops were closed and Thamel, at 9:20 PM, is still busy dealing with hundreds of Goras and Goris from abroad.

In the last several days, we have seen Nepal Television and Kantipur Television that are brining in the voices of Nepali youths who have returned to their homeland after years from hard jobs in Gulf countries and Malaysia. “I have come to Nepal in 3 years,” said one young man. “Why?” the reporter would ask. “To celebrate Dashain,” he said. “I have heard that the environment is good now.” He was talking about peaceful atmosphere in the country that we have been observing since late April. Thanks to historic Peoples’ Movement. Nepalis have returned to celebrate, to be with their loved ones. They have now gone to their villages that were turned into battleground until a few months ago.

Thamel, my favorite hangout spot in Kathmandu, is elated to host so many tourists in many years. Hotels not only in Thamel but also in the whole of Kathmandu are booked almost to their full capacity. Shop owners are busy dealing with their customers. I bought a few things like trousers and jackets for trek purpose. I talked to them and they said the number of tourists have increased. So is their business. The credit goes to Democracy and the political change that we saw in April. There is no fighting and every one is happy with this. Yes, you tend to be emotional but the fact is that we are already seeing the democracy effects in our life. There is a kind of confidence in business community and once Maoist extortions are stopped completely, that would propel growth. That is why, I emphasize, it feels good to wear a t-shirt that says Democracy rocks!

Tourism is also rocking, thanks to democracy and peace. Today I met some foreigners who were more than eager to trek in different parts of Nepal. Talking about trekking, let me quote Narayan Wagle, a celebrated journalist and writer, who once said in award winning documentary “Bheda ko Ooon Jasto” that every Kathmanduits should trek even if that is short one. That will help economy run properly and give an opportunity to the traveler to learn about the country more. This is the time for foreigners to come and enjoy the beauty of Nepal. Come and trek!

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2 thoughts on “Democracy Effect: Smiling Face of Thamel”

  1. All original comments to this post have been re-posted together below: 1 anon liberty says: October 4th, 2006 at 12:45 am Glory to Democracy! Wagle Ji prosperity is gaurrenteed in Democracy! Either its principles are dominated by the democratic socialist school of thought or capitalist; Whether it has institutionalized complete electoral logistics or not; Its goal is to protect civil liberty as much as it can to proceed further for economic and technoligical development; This is inevital. Those regressive force who oppose democracy, who do not see the off-limit of individuals who under interrogation mass murder; who lose their rationality having connected to the dark force of human desire for power are going to lose their grip in this twenty first century. Glory to Democracy and United we blog for Democracy in Nepal. Have a nice trekking up on the Himalayas. 2 Bhudai Pundit says: October 4th, 2006 at 1:22 am I am glad we have a democratic system now. But I would caution people to not ride in the clouds of unrealistic optimism. We still have a long way to go. I wish things were as rosy as Wagle claims. He must have been high on marijuana or hashish. Or better yet he was hullucinating on shrooms while he was writing this because it is grossly inaccurate. Hotels are not booked, tourists are few and people are still scared to go to the villages. There is some optimism but the death of Bibek was a stark reminder that Nepal is still largely a lawless domain. Robbries are on the rise and banks are closing down. I don’t mean to sound negative but I just want to point out that Wagle is an idiot. 3 harkee dai says: October 4th, 2006 at 1:45 am wagle mananges to see everything that we cant i dont know who is hallucinating here.. wagle see hundreds of ppl queing outside the palace as “few” and “few” tourists as “hundreds” time to check the power of ur glasses wagle 4 Kirat says: October 4th, 2006 at 7:56 am Hey Bhudai, actually it’s quite better than what you think here in Nepal. My staff were able to go home for Dashain to Khotang, Gorkha and Sindhupalchowk without fear of Maoist or security forces harassing them this year. Isn’t that great? Also hotels may not be fully booked but they are doing quite well compared to previous years-and yes there are a lot of tourists (trekkers) around-though not in the levels of 1998/1999. It does give a glimpse of how well the tourism sector could contribute to the countries economic well being if we could attain lasting peace. 5 suraj karki says: October 4th, 2006 at 8:06 am dinesh ji, kasto fone garya bhaye ta hunthyo ni i was also in thamel whole day 6 Bhudai Pundit says: October 4th, 2006 at 9:48 am That is indeed great. Hopefully this continues into the future. I feel the peace process is moving along very slowly and Girija Babu is not getting younger. I hope something substantial can be reached soon. 7 Kirat says: October 4th, 2006 at 9:56 am Well old man Girija thinks he is going to live forever. Girija himself is to blame for the slow progress on the peace talks with the Maoists. 8 ankit says: October 4th, 2006 at 10:33 am Ha! Ha! Ha! Now, Wagle has nothing to shout about ! Thamel was bustling even during the Panchayat days. In fact, it was during the Panchayat that the hippies started coming and the hemp was flowing in Thamel. Last year, Thamel was thriving too. Thamel’s nightlife has nothing to do with democracy. Just like Pattaya and Patpong have nothing to with a coup in Thailand, Thamel has more to do with hashish, happy hour drinks thatn any form of political system. Mr. Wagle, now, your blogsite has become exactly like Kantipur and The Kathmandu Post. 9 scoop says: October 4th, 2006 at 11:08 am Non-democratic effect in some places however: “Shitoula’s role as the government’s Chief Negotiator has earned him notoriety. He has repeatedly implemented secret agreements reached with the Maoists (during clandestine talks). Such agreements have been implemented under the radar, without being presented to the Cabinet,let alone being passed by the House. They have absolutely no legal basis and are the decrees of one man, determined to exploit his dualistic position while circumventing the very legal standards his ministerial position is designed to protect…” “As far as the Rayamajhi Commission is concerned, this body’s inability to fully execute its directive is also tied to Shitoula’s clandestine activities. Shitoula’s secret alliances with certain individuals close to the royal palace are at the core of the Rayamajhi Commission’s failures.” “Krishna Shitoula is an embarrassment to his party, his people, and to the entire country. He epitomizes the bottom-feeding that propelled one extreme to power and is now propelling the other extreme in the same direction. Shitoula is incapable of delivering on the responsibilities associated with being a Home Minister, and he is directly responsible for jeopardizing the peace process….” The full text: http://nepaliperspectives.blogspot.com/2006/10/root-of-nepals-insecurity-home.html 10 scoop says: October 4th, 2006 at 11:13 am From the link above: “Most embarrassing of all are first hand reports of the head of state (PM Koirala) being frisked by Maoists inside his official residence. Apparently, armed Maoist “body guards” shaking down the Prime Minister of Nepal is acceptable. Such actions, in the presence of the Home Minister of Nepal, are condoned and even lauded as “conducive” to the peace process.” 11 scoop says: October 4th, 2006 at 11:19 am The Sitaula – Maoist 9 pointer: The nine-point secret proposal presented to the government by Maoists as the “bottom-line” for the talks is a bone of contention. The nine-point proposal has demanded that 1.the interim legislature should incorporate 45 percent members of seven-party alliance, 35 percent Maoists and 20 percent members of civil society. 2.They have demanded that Maoist militia and Nepal Police should form a joint mechanism to hold CA elections and 3.the monarchy should be suspended until constituent assembly election is held. 4.The Maoists want referendum on monarchy along with constituent assembly polls and nationalization of royal assets. 5.About arms management, they have proposed a mutually agreed modality. Similarly, a high-level military commission has been proposed to control both armed forces. 6.The rebels have also proposed retention of their courts at the village level. The other issues include 7.proportional representation system; 8. dissolution of both the Houses of Parliament after formation of an interim legislature; 9. dissolution of their regimes in the villages after setting up joint committees of the parties and drastic change in socio-economic policies of the state. 12 Funny says: October 4th, 2006 at 1:57 pm Bhudai Pundit, It does not need a ph.D. to figure out your soft corner towards our last King. You are doing it under Veil in many ways like Wagle says. Whatever good thing happens in Nepal is no good for you becuase it is not done by the royals. Sorry, you could also be one hell of a pessimist, loser. Does that mean anything to you, dumber jackass 13 Kirat says: October 4th, 2006 at 2:01 pm Bhudai Pundit is anything but a royalist. I have been reading his postings since March of this year. 14 monk says: October 4th, 2006 at 3:47 pm Don’t be too euphoric! Maoists have not laid down their weapons yet!! 15 scoop says: October 4th, 2006 at 4:13 pm test 16 foren_baba says: October 4th, 2006 at 5:53 pm …..i do read u guys…. ..but somebody close to me hinted that all is not well in Nepal ….and dark clouds are hovering above the sky and discouraged me from going back…. ..wat is real guys…r u guys safe?? 17 Anon Liberty says: October 4th, 2006 at 8:15 pm Dark cloud might be initiated by the regressive forces who support the mother queen Ratna’s dream to resurrect her dead husband’s Panchayet system. This is how Gyanendra cought up with royal massacre and dictatorship in the name of peace and regressive or oligarchic democracy. It is said that Gyanendra’s real mother is Ratna not as told to people that 3 sons and 3 daughters of same mother. This has come as rumour, but not just rumour actually challenge to the historians to discover truth in near future. Then you wil see the light on the royal massacre as clear as the day light. This is the only fear of dark cloud…… 18 Kirat says: October 4th, 2006 at 8:31 pm foren_baba, the chances of you getting mugged/shot in Washington DC, blown up in an American airline or the tube in UK or Spain is higher than getting a slap on your face by a Maoist in Nepal. 19 Bhudai Pundit says: October 4th, 2006 at 9:29 pm Funny: Why don’t you just call yourself “moron” because your comments sure as hell aren’t funny. Go to blogdai or savenepalnow.org and read my comments and tell me I am Royalist. But just because I am not a Royalist it doesn’t mean I am the SPA’s little bitch (like you seem to be). 20 harkee dai says: October 4th, 2006 at 9:44 pm “Thanks to historic Peoples’ Movement. Nepalis have returned to celebrate, to be with their loved ones. They have now gone to their villages that were turned into battleground until a few months ago.” Maoists took under control ten persons from Kotwada-3 in Kalikot district on September 22 who had come home for Dashain, beat them up and robbed money form them. Of the ten persons, whereabouts of two persons – Ganesh Bista and Karna Bahadur Bista – still remain unknown while eight persons were released on the same evening, according to the rights watchdog. Similarly, the NHRC said it had received complaint about kidnapping of a former mayor of Ghorahi Municipality in Dang, Bal Bhadra Rana, by the Maoists on October 01. He was taken away from Nawapur of the same district. i feel like laughing at Wagle but then he is spreading so much of false news … this site should be banned officially i think wagle forgot to interview those abducted personnel who came home for dashain reading wagles blog.. too bad u trusted the wrong person representing a corrupt newspaper 21 Kirat says: October 4th, 2006 at 9:55 pm harkee you think your king would have done better? 22 Kirat says: October 4th, 2006 at 9:58 pm harkee your king was so worried about the plight of his citizens he went on that wonderful IT jamboree in Africa (never mind that he was avoided like a flu by most head of states). And what an inordinate amount of time he spent with the tantric mumbo jumbo for the benefit of the Nepali people. 23 harkee dai says: October 4th, 2006 at 10:03 pm hey kirat, u havent answered my question regarding whether u will allow the maoists to form a union at ur workplace.. until u dont answer me that question please spare me from ur “vast wisdom” of intelligence 24 raj says: October 4th, 2006 at 10:08 pm We are moving towards democracy but we are not there yet. The feudal monarchy hangs large over our head and never-democrats Maoists are roaming with their guns. Girija is not a wise person but he is trying his best to disarm both the dictators. But the monarchists, India and Moariarty are throwing a spanner, named SB Deuba, in his effort and if they succeed, I do not like to guess. It some one likes , go ahead. 25 Kirat says: October 4th, 2006 at 10:12 pm harkee-don’t be childish. I have stated many times that I detest the Maoists. I am a capitalist so why would I encourage a Maoist trade union? But I am also a realist and luckily for me and my staff also a humanist. My staff will never form a trade union (let alone a Maoist one, they have been taken well care off, all of them. This was and is the best way for me to fight scourges like the Maoists-treat people well. 26 harkee dai says: October 4th, 2006 at 10:28 pm well i guess the bakery fella who got beaten black and blue ( he was so old) also treated his “employees” well.. but then he didnt have the right to say no to form a maoist union in his factory… u listening kirat ? who knows someday its gone be u whom we gona read in the newspaper 27 Bhudai Pundit says: October 4th, 2006 at 11:13 pm harkee dai: what do you propose we do? the peace process is moving along really slowly and the maoists are roaming around like wild thugs. but at this junture girija and the SPA is all we have. 28 Bhudai Pundit says: October 4th, 2006 at 11:14 pm Funny: Why don’t you just call yourself “moron” because your comments sure as hell aren’t funny. Go to blogdai or savenepalnow.org and read my comments and tell me I am Royalist. But just because I am not a Royalist it doesn’t mean I am the SPA’s little … 29 Bhudai Pundit says: October 4th, 2006 at 11:16 pm oh and funny just because i said girija is all we have it still doesn’t mean I am their bi*tch. I just didn’t want you to wet your pants in excitement because you thought you found a contradiction in my statements. 30 harkee dai says: October 5th, 2006 at 12:10 am Bhudai Pandit, go for a ceremonial monarchy, get a good leader (dump the ones we have from girija,makune etc),tell maoists to give up their guns and joing mainstream politics like other parties or we can shoo them to the jungle again 31 Bhudai Pundit says: October 5th, 2006 at 12:19 am I would accept a ceremonial monarchy – not constitutional though. I think most Nepalis (except Wagle and a few of this Chumchas) would also be down with that as well… What say you Kirat? 32 Truth says: October 5th, 2006 at 2:24 am Bhudai and harkee, No form of Monarchy will be accepted by Nepali People – ceremonial,constitutional or say just for name..No way. Monarchy, representing feudal system, as a institution is already abolished from Peoples Heart.Its only matter of time upto CA to uproot it officially forever. Democracy Rocks ! Republic Nepal Rocks too !! 33 Truth says: October 5th, 2006 at 2:38 am harkee dai, u are exactly dictating in a way & words that US has been dictating our fellow Nepali Congress Party,esp.Girija. Mind it, you can only Dream On. Nepalese people will choose what they want.Your wish and dictation will be damned by Nepali people. They want Republic.Its as clear as sunlight.And they will get what they want.No force on universe can stop them.Just a matter of time buddy. 34 Bhudai Pundit says: October 5th, 2006 at 2:51 am I wouldn’t be too sure fellas. You can’t base your judgement on the wild mobs and kantipur’s interpretation. We all agree that the King’s Feb 1st move was wrong. Most people all agree that the King should be be the head of the army and his constitutional powers need to be curbed. But getting rid of the monarchy altogeather? I think most people will still be hesitant … go and ask around and see what people tell you. Even Girija has backed up and mentioned that King should be given space. The relevance of the monarchy will diminish in the future and perhaps there will be a time when it won’t be necessary. But given the political situation Nepal is in right now, I think most people will not agree to get rid of the monarchy altogeather. 35 Bhudai Pundit says: October 5th, 2006 at 2:51 am Sorry I mean he should NOT be head of the army 36 Bhudai Pundit says: October 5th, 2006 at 2:52 am Don’t jump up and down Raj and take this to mean I am a Monarchist. 37 larsg says: October 5th, 2006 at 4:32 am The Nepali people will not benefit from a republic. They will just end up with Prachandra assuming powers any autocratic king could only dream of. Remember that maoists have continued their campaign of agression and destabilisation while king and parliament have supported peace process. 38 yahoo says: October 5th, 2006 at 8:28 am if you had to choose between tumor and heptetis, what would you choose? yes, a very, naive analogy, but how can you pick one over another, unless you benifit from either one of them. for some people might be the case. same with the monarchy and the maoist, what difference does it make, who goes first, personally, i would welcome, oust of either. if monarchy is dying, let it be, we ought to welcome the demise of dinosaurce, sooner the better, moaist would be squished under its own ideology, they will wither away with the internal bickering once they get on board and be a part of legit government. discontent foot soldiers when realized that their promised dreams are not going to get fulfilled, they would be rebels inside rebel. the scary ones are the so called democratic politicians, they are the piles, they make you realize everyday morning, how inconvenient they can make your life. i don’t know who to choose from– tumor, heptitis or piles. 39 Raj shrestha says: October 5th, 2006 at 8:32 am Dinesh dai when did u get back to kathmandu from ghodepani any belately also happy birthday to UWB .Really its been a year that the UWB starts anyway i got so glad when you people published my photos on your blog..keep on Raj http://www.fotobyraj.blogspot.com 40 yahoo says: October 5th, 2006 at 8:42 am on a second thought, how about a theocratic Nepal. few options are 1. ultra hinduist nation, some type of Hanuman nation or banjrang nation 2. islam in the form of taliban 3. nut case christians, who wait for the armagedon 4. over pacifist budhists, every take ’samadhi’ 5. Best alternative seems to be ‘SAI BABA’ nation, where all problems would be solved by miracles, even our king had to go to him. 41 Funny says: October 5th, 2006 at 9:11 am Bhudai Pundit, You sure are suffering from ADS. You have no consistency, you have no principle, you have no moral! Kiddo, I was so excited to read you that I really did …. and you are licking my pants now. Relevance of monarchy in 21st century, you go to hell. what political situation demands monarchy? You are such a laughing stock ! Tell me what your masters have taught you, you rotten egg ” Nepal is a yam between two boulders…Democracy is not sutable for Nepal…. what else… We need king to unify us….” pack if siht ! You really get my nerve here. Who the hell are you anyway? I can throw 100s of mama stuff to you, you will really love them. That would be for adult not for kiddos. Do not you want to get permission from your mama 42 justreading says: October 5th, 2006 at 9:28 am Very funny, 19th centuray war between monarchist and non-monarchist. Bhunde Pundit Baje, are you VC of Mahendra-Sanskrit Univeristy or what? hehe kidding. But I like your argument man. 43 Bideshi says: October 5th, 2006 at 9:53 am “No form of Monarchy will be accepted by Nepali People” Make that Nepali Maoist People. 44 Bhudai Pundit says: October 5th, 2006 at 10:48 am HAHAHAH I am just laughing at funny’s insults. I must be a kido in comparison to you because you insults are like that of 70 year old man. How ironic – you call yourself funny! LOL And now you are threnten me with mama jokes? oh my funny, at least I know you can use google that’s really great. However, I don’t think you know how to use quatation marks. Instead of wasting your time, go and learn that. And who are you? You aren’t funny that’s for sure. Don’t come here with your 100 ruppes pesudo intellectual pretense and lecture me about 21st century concept! But I don’t want to argue with a moron who can’t read. No one ever said democracy isn’t right for Nepal. Let me stop there I don’t want to give you a headache and I am sure as hell not wasting my time some wannabe Gagan Thapa. By the way what does that last sentence mean? 45 Bhudai Pundit says: October 5th, 2006 at 11:20 am justreading: to answer your question: some day I hope to be. Anyway in all seriousness. I even address Funny… I reach out to him and anyone else who wishes to engage in a rational debate without using personal insults, vendetta etc. Because I could go on with insults but really it’s not going to get me anywhere. So here is my position briefly: I don’t believe in an absolute monarchy or even a constitutional monarchy. But given Nepal current pulitical situation I think we should retain a ceremonial monarchy. Ultimately the CA elections will have the final say on this issue. But that’s my position. So someone here convince me that we don’t need a monarchy at all – even a ceremonial one and tell me how that would be more beneficial to Nepal socio-political position currently. If you all would like to go back to the insult game and ignore my invitation for rational debate – well I say bring it on! but I would rather not. 46 harkee dai says: October 5th, 2006 at 12:00 pm “No form of Monarchy will be accepted by Nepali People ” why dont we do a poll now assuming the maoists put down their arms and not “force” ppl to vote against monarchy like they did last time in the municipal elections.. the “truth” is out there … 47 dakre says: October 5th, 2006 at 12:14 pm the jungle goons and the palace baboons are havin fun while u r on the run u have no food only a bad mood no hut to sleep and no place to pee all this talk they have no meanin to me i’m a poor nepalee i have no food 48 funny says: October 5th, 2006 at 2:37 pm Bhudai Pundit, Bhut pret pichas pundit, haha lets celebrate your rotten ideas on ceremonial monarchy. P and G’s G is itching and they are calling you as you are real G.M. You understand this? I do not want to be more explicite. you go wash your face in Bidet. Do you understand this? I do not use spell cheker here. I am a freelancer ! hehe. Lets say, we start with your right temple and explore your head right through the left temple only to leave your rights to decision which the leftwing does not understand but the right wing delivers. Does that make sense?? If it does not read again…You could be Paras’s Jethan dude..hehe the clue on “why might the chicken have crossed the road?” Is the quotation alright bugger? surprise to hear that you know ‘google’. Why do I google, you googly google, to find schoalr like you? I sure used shcolar.google.com. BTW use SCOPUS its much better than scholar.google my boy. 49 K_Bashi says: October 5th, 2006 at 3:05 pm Thamel has less Khaires than previous year of this period. How the Wagley & Co see more? Is it a Tonic to Nepal Tourism? Perhaps you will find this is a more potential Tonic to tourism in Nepal. The blood suckers had started collecting donation or extortion from Khaire’s point of view amount Rs. 2500.00 per person from trekkers starting from Lukla in Mt. Everest region. 50 Kirat says: October 5th, 2006 at 3:12 pm Excuse me, I’m a travel industry insider and I can tell you that tourisr arrivals this month is definitely on the up compares to last year (and last year this time was pretty good too because of the Maoist ceasefire). The Maoist donation thing I agree is a shame. 51 K_Bashi says: October 5th, 2006 at 3:25 pm Seeing is beleiving. I am talking about Tourists in Thamel and not concerned with NTB data or some one’s speculation. 52 Kirat says: October 5th, 2006 at 3:51 pm K_Bashi-try and get a flight to Lukla or Jomsom and see for yourself. ‘Seeing is believing’- nice way of judging tourist arrivals. 53 raj says: October 5th, 2006 at 5:11 pm Monarchists! If you love monarchs, you can do so with all your heart content because your thoughts are not beyond feudalism. Like another Chanakya or Machiavell, you can praise the king and fight for him too. You can follow JB Rana’s Mulki Ain and worship king’s feet but rememeber, autocrat, constitutional or ceremonial or whatever you call him, he is nothing but a monarch, a lord of the feudals. At every chance he gets, he will sting democracy. Don’t frighten people by ‘Exit of monarchy can dismantle the kingdom’. No country in modern history was ever broken by by exit of any king. Democrats! Democrats must have only one agenda i.e. democracy. No to dictators in any form – soft or hard. No to regression. Stick to main agenda and don’t be provoked by minor misnomers and mistakes. Supporters of soft monarchy are pseudo-democrats like SB Deuba there and Bhudai Pundit here and are more dengerous than Dr.Tulshi Giri and Harkee dai in there places and are exposed due to their own foolhardy. 54 Culture says: October 5th, 2006 at 7:55 pm Raj, Lets say I agree that no more regression. But please define what you consider regression, so that we know you are not simply plagiarising something you hear GPK or Prachanda or Bamdev. I am sick and tired of name calling and generalizing any action not in favour with certain groups being classified regression. 55 K_Bashi says: October 5th, 2006 at 8:13 pm Kirat, Dont worry about my guests getting air-tickets to Lukla or Jomsom. I am talking about Khaires in Thamel. You can ask any Thamel-bashi. So you will understand what is seeing and believing. Actually you and Wagley co encouraging extortion in Thamel by blood suckers who every other day come and bark at us to extort a few more from our hard earned living referring Kantipur publications, etc. You know one thing it is really difficult to get air tickets to Kathmandu. It is not because of Khaires but because of large of number of Nepali working in every corner of the world and comming home for Dashai and Tihar. You can see these in each arrival at the airport. 56 Kirat says: October 5th, 2006 at 8:21 pm K_Bashi, Sorry your Thamel based travel agency/restaurant/bead shop/bar isn’t doing too well. But the rest of us in the travel industry are doing quite good this season thank you! We’re getting a lot of trekkers this season-so they don’t hang around Thamel that much. They are here to see the real Nepal and not smoke stuff in some dingy hotel. And the way Kathmandu has become dirty and overpopulated can you blame tourists for not wanting to stay in Kathmandu long? Well Maoist extortion I am against too. But I don’t think blaming me, Wagley or Kantipur Publications helps (I detest Kantipur Publications by the way.) 57 K_Bashi says: October 5th, 2006 at 8:31 pm Mr. Kirat, I am not concerned with your observation regarding Thamel and Tourism in Nepal. I am only concerned about Wagley’s referral to Tourism in Nepal with Thamel. Perhaps you are away from Thamel and not facing extortions. But I am pretty sure your trekkers are paying heavily to these blood suckers and you are also not complaining about it. I am sure what kind of message the tourists are carrying with them regarding Nepal. 58 Kirat says: October 5th, 2006 at 8:37 pm OK. Yes and I am agreement with you on the unnecessary tax collection the Maoists are inflicting on the tourists. I am just glad that the tourists are actually coming despite all this. Would not have happened if ole KG was in power. 59 K_Bashi says: October 5th, 2006 at 8:53 pm Hahaha! So extortion is a tax collection. I am wondering the amount I submitted to the extortion is deductible from income tax? More over we must concern about sutainable tourism in Nepal not happy with a falsified reporting from Wagley & co. 60 Bhudai Pundit says: October 5th, 2006 at 8:57 pm Funny you sexually confused, frustrated, Gagan Thapa wannabe: If anyone understood what Funny was trying say please explain it me. Clearly, this man/women (maybe a bit of both in it’s case) is too immature to engage in a debate. Hence I will continue to insult him. Actually Funny you ask me several times “you understand this?” and no I don’t understand what you are saying. You obviously speak some language I don’t know – is that clingon or something? You make no sense. That must suck – when you trying to be funny no one understands what you are saying. I am sure you are used to it though. Anyway I think I have given you enough attention. From now on I will ignore you. Your comments are not worthy of my attention (or anyone else as I can see no one has really endorsed your view). You are obviouly a frustrated MoFo who cannot express himself/herself and when you learn how to cmmonicate please come back here and we can chat. But listen just a friendly piece of advice: if you really need to stop insulting. Because your insults don’t make any sense and worst of all they aren’t funny. Really, when I read your posts I just feel sorry for you. Raj: Please stop being like George Bush and classifying everything in terms of black and white. Go and read the Nepalitimes public opinion polls. 46% of the people say a constitutional monarchy is need. 6% say cereminial and 24% say some form of monarchy is needed. Read the polls! Having a ceremonial monarchy is not a compromise to democracy. Why do you have such a text-book mind set Raj? You have consider Nepal’s soio-political structure before you rip out a stringent definition of democracy. And the King cannot interfer if the system will not let him. The army should have been under parliment’s control from the begining. Look at Thailand and tell me that they are stupid for having a King. Besides this Republican sentiment only came after Feb 1st… where was Dinesh Wagle, Gagan Thapa, Krishna Pahadi before that? Did you see them come out to the streets and demand Birenedra get out? You talk about a feudal system – I agree that the King represents a era of the feudal system. But it was up to the democratically elected governments to put an end to that through education and rural development. 61 Kirat says: October 5th, 2006 at 9:06 pm Glad you can see the funny side of it when you are paying for it. Yeah it’s extortion. And as the SPA has no guts to stop it or provide security for us if we resist they should make it tax deductible. Wagle’s got his own tune to dance to why bother yourself so much about it? But everyone knows that once peace truly returns to this land tourism will boom. You might be pessimistic but in the last eight years has there been a better opportunity for peace? (where these foolish people can grasp the opportunity is another thing). 62 Bhudai Pundit says: October 5th, 2006 at 9:36 pm Wagle moderate my comment damit. 63 yahoo says: October 5th, 2006 at 10:08 pm it’s all about game of economics and distribution of resources. ‘tax’ or ‘extortion’, it’s just a matter of perception. when state taxes its citizen and wouldn’t even perfom the basic duties, well that is a– legal extortion. but when Maoist collects money at gun point, to run their health post or local schools, well that is–robin hood, extortion but with benign cause. but, in reality, case is not this simple, just wanted to throw light on, which side of line you stand and perceive. now coming back to tourism in Nepal, indeed, it has been the top industry in the past to earn hard cash for long long time, since the hippies, started flocking in KTM in their, Mercedes buses and vans, looking for nirvana through himalayan pot, to these days, modern days back packers, traveling in tight budget, nevertheless, Nepal was making money. now the pertaining question would be, who was making money? yes, few enterprising souls (hotelers, airliners), some locals (ghandruk, namche etc.), and hoards of service industry, from potters to managers to run these businesses(these people at lower rung were just making existional living). it’s been seven decades, since nepal has opened its door to tourists, what has happend since then, in a macro/micro level? archaic towns like jathya/thamel morphed into tourist hub, few five star hotels, and countless inns/restaurant. at the rural level, ‘dhedo’ eating, indigenious ppl of namche/ghandruk/others got introduced to pasta/pizza, they got to see more bills with kings heads, thus give up barter system. it, would be wrong to discredit tourism’s contribution in Nepal’s economy, but it would be totally blind at the same time not to acknowledge large large portion of population was segregated from its benifits. NOW THE PLAYING FIELD HAS BEEN LABELED, with the advent of Maoist insurgency, neglected/marginalized portion of the population sees an opportunity to grab anything you can while anarchy/chaos prevails. so, it is naive/reprehensible at the same time, to sit in your center of universe (i.e ktm) and comment away for/against monarchy/democracy/spa/moaist/aire/gaire. i would suggest you to stand in the dead center of Thamel and start walking 50KM in any direction, and come back here and tell me what has 70 years of tourism done for the general public in direct sense. yes, and don’t tell me invisible the economic they might have had due to tourism. be happy it’s just moaist taxing/extoring money out of you on your trek, soon you will find YETI doing that. me thinks, 64 yahoo says: October 5th, 2006 at 10:16 pm on the side note: if the state was doing so great through tourism, why did it take New Zealander, edmund hillary to build shcools and hospitals in/around namche. if i were rolpali/dolpoli, i would be taxing tourists too, every dog has its day!!! 65 Umesh says: October 6th, 2006 at 12:10 am k ho Junior Wagle sir pani, bhedo ko oun jasto gana khojna jana track suit kineko ta hoina? 66 automatic says: October 6th, 2006 at 12:13 am I think this country belongs to all, the royalists, the maoists and most of all it belongs to the general Nepalese people. Let’s know the people decision and accept the decision made by the people by referendum or Constitutional Assembly Election. Why should we quarrel here. We should accept the majority will. All will know in how deep water they are. 67 stuart says: October 6th, 2006 at 2:16 am I won’t go as far as another comment as to say that Wagle is an idiot, for I know that he truly is not… but what is up with this post at all?? Is it a ploy to say that democracy is working for Nepal or is it just another crappy advertisement for the tourism and trekking industry in Nepal? We all know that trekking in Nepal is a glorious experience, but isn’t there something else that is there for the reasoning for wanting this all fulfilling “democracy”? Maybe the other comments do have some merit if for nothing else than to tell those Nepali journalists to “step back out of the box”. Just a glimplse of democracy does not make it easy and simple as that, and to think that is narrow minded and even more ignorant than the problems that the lack of democracy once brought forth… Flip open the flaps and step back out of the box. UWB is better than this ignorance and one sided propaganda style reporting. Nepal deserves more…. 68 Bhudai Pundit says: October 6th, 2006 at 3:08 am Stuart: You are the man. You have hit the nail in the head. 69 prism says: October 6th, 2006 at 6:58 am I agree with Bhudai about the ceremonial monarchy (has its some uses on tourism too like in Britain!). But I still question, is our monarchy capable (and gracious enough) to remain ceremonial? It could hardly stay in the bounds of a constitutional monarchy, hence my doubts about the ceremonial role. It’s like asking a passenger used to travelling on the first class to move from the second class to the third class! Would be great if it could, but could it? 70 Bhudai Pundit says: October 6th, 2006 at 7:24 am prism: if we have a strong democratic system the king would not even dare over step his boundaries. Frankly if the army is under civilian control then the King really has no option. Besides its only Gyanendra who had the balls to do this. I don’t think Paras has the brains for a Feb 1st move. 71 Bhudai Pundit says: October 6th, 2006 at 7:26 am dman Wagle and his moderation 72 Bhudai Pundit says: October 6th, 2006 at 7:26 am prism: if we have a strong democratic system the king would not even dare over step his boundaries. Frankly if the army is under civilian control then the King really has no option. Besides its only Gyanendra who had the balls to do this. I don’t think Paras has the brains for a Feb 1st move 73 funny says: October 6th, 2006 at 8:40 am Bhudai Pundit, Gender confused dimwit, your comments are worthless. Just crying out loud about ceremonial monarchy and moaning for wagle’s moderation serve no propose. I have not found a point in your write-ups yet. are you still writing, come on dude at least someone beleives to put the monarchy in museum. I say, we put them in zoo. We have all kinds of animals in zoo but homo sapiens. It would attract more tourist that way. 74 Future of Nepal says: October 6th, 2006 at 9:04 am http://newsblaze.com/story/20060803064135nnnn.nb/topstory.html 75 Bhudai Pundit says: October 6th, 2006 at 10:50 am Funny now you are just recycling my insult. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Anyway I haven’t seen any susbstance in of your write ups. Unless you can convince me why a ceremonial mornach would be detrimental to Nepal and tell me why it would be better to get rid of the moarchy altogeather… I would shut your little pie hole. Look at the majority of the posts here funny. And tell me about the sentiments of the majority of the people. Furthermore, read the opionion poll in the Nepali times … a mear 6% of the people polled said that they don’t want any monarchy at all. So I am sorry funny, but it seems like you are in minority. Of course the CA election will decide but all indications are that the monarchy will be be kept for the time being on a ceremonail role. Until then I suggest you either come up with original insults or give us a soild argument. Frankly you haven’t done neither – hence you are quiet worthless. 76 Guyfromktm says: October 6th, 2006 at 12:09 pm Wagle is funny– he is linking the increase in tourist influx to the democracy we don’t have. How can you say that Nepal has democracy this very moment. The same currpt faces, who weer elected some eternity ago, are back in the parliament talking that same old sh… They have started to feel comfortable with the status quo and are not doing enough to move the country forward. Their internal squabbles had provided excellent opportunity for the Maoist movement to prosper in the late nineties and they are acting in the same premature way making way for the Maoists to take over this country that we know now as Nepal and berak it into pieces in the name of federalism. And no, none of will even be asked about it. If wagle can call all that is happening in Nepal right now “democracy” then he must have gone to a very differnt school that any one of us. Please wagle, come out and tell us where is democracy in Nepal right now, where can I voice my opinion and be heard, who in Nepal is living a live free of fear, who in Nepal other than yourself thinks things are completely under control so its time to go for a trek, which business in Nepal can make more investment in Nepal without thinking more than twice about it, which government worker has been able tot ake home all that he earned without the extortionist eating into it and which city in Nepal now goes to sleep without fear of either being robbed, or coerced into giving donations. And please tell me, what is your so-called democratic system doing anything about it. And yeah, when do we get to vote again? If you know the answer, please let me know. 77 Guyfromktm says: October 6th, 2006 at 12:13 pm Wagle is funny– he is linking the increase in tourist influx to the democracy we don’t have. How can you say that Nepal has democracy this very moment. The same corrupt faces, who were elected some eternity ago, are back in the parliament talking that same old sh… They have started to feel comfortable with the status quo and are not doing enough to move the country forward. Their internal squabbles had provided excellent opportunity for the Maoist movement to prosper in the late nineties and they are acting in the same immature manner making way for the Maoists to take over this country that we know now as Nepal and break it into pieces in the name of federalism. The most corrupt and notorious face of all during the democratic years was that of Girija and Wagle is all praise for this guy who messed up this country not once for five different times. And no, none of wus ill even be asked if we approve any of this. If wagle can call all that is happening in Nepal right now “democracy” then he must have gone to a very differnt school that any one of us. Please wagle, come out and tell us where is democracy in Nepal right now, where can I voice my opinion and be heard, who in Nepal is living a live free of fear, who in Nepal other than yourself thinks things are completely under control so its time to go for a trek, which business in Nepal can make more investment in Nepal without thinking more than twice about it, which government worker has been able to ake home all that he earned without the extortionists eating into it and which city in Nepal now goes to sleep without fear of either being robbed, or coerced into giving donations. And please tell me, what is your so-called democratic system doing anything about it. And yeah, when do we get to vote again? If you know the answer, please let me know. 78 Future of Nepal says: October 6th, 2006 at 12:24 pm Are Nepalis Ready to Accept Maoist Terrorist Government? Are Nepalis Ready to Accept Maoist Terrorist Government? By Susant Sharma I do not think the US can provide a sustainable solution for Nepal and Nepalis. But the US can play a significant role in thrashing out the Maoist terrorist and their desire to participate in this so called “democratic” political process. Since the US declared this group as “terrorist” they should not be recognized as a political party nor as democratic forces. The terrorist are lauded as heroes now. Their decade old campaign of terror over innocent civilians was overlooked by the inept democratic forces and the media. While such mayhem and barbaric onslaught was continuing for a while those democratically elected leaders were watching helplessly and blaming each other. At last the King stepped in to stop the reckless political instability and immediately exercised clause # 127 as enshrined under the Nepali Constitution of 1990. This extra- constitutional right was given to the King, so that, during any such emergency like the one that was continuing, the Maoist rampant insurgency could be stopped. He did not overstep neither did he act as a dictator. As a patriotic head of state; he wanted to stop the course of spiraling down of the economic and political situation in Nepal. Unfortunately those corrupt political leaders, who had never done anything for the welfare of the poor people of our country started virulent negative propaganda about the King. The local media – those who were supposed to expose such impropriety appear to have been bribed by these leaders with corers of rupees to engage in negative media bashing against the King. These political party leaders were only busy in fattening their foreign bank accounts and their moral values became so low that they did not hesitate to join hands with the Maoist terrorists who took full advantage of the helpless situation and successfully influenced certain segments of the population with their obsolete leftist agenda through sheer reign of terror. Nepal’s Maoist terrorists successfully cashed in on India’s weak political situation protected from any Indian political intervention in the on going political crisis in Nepal. For centuries, India played an important role in the political process and helped maintaining Nepal as the only Hindu Kingdom in the world. But under Sonia Antonio Maino and her puppy dog Man Maran Singh’s regime, political thinking started to change rapidly from India’s national interest as good neighbor to personal Christian centric political agenda supported by the Communist thugs to change Nepal’s century old heritage as the only Hindu Kingdom to present state of banana republic like the way India is running now. These terrorists do not have feelings of Nationality or love for the motherland. Their political allegiance is only with their obsolete economic and political thinking of equity of resources. But if the economy does not grow, the equitability becomes further diluted. With the lack of proper planning and absence of market economic forces like utilization and mobilization of resources that play a major role in fostering rapid economic growth. Even our northern neighbor China after years of experimenting with that obsolete Maoist ideology, has now embraced market economy to accelerate rapid economic growth and pull millions of impoverish Chinese out of the cycle of poverty. Advancement and modernization of existing infrastructure, focusing on National economy by providing excellent opportunity to Nepal’s famed tourism sector and building ultra modern transportation networks, providing further development in trade and commerce services and utilizing efficiently human capital and other natural resources like hydro electric ventures and other natural capital like forest and majestic Himalayan mountain range are not in their agenda. Their way of advancement is how quick they can they loot and seize and destroy public properties to create terror and economic stagnation and that kind of helpless political situation to help them to stay in power while whole country goes down the drain. There is not any agenda on education, neither any caring for hundred and thousands of homeless innocent children who lost their parents and families during their unprecedented reign of terror. Even after coming to power these Maoist terrorists are still terrorizing civilians and extorting business houses by demanding ransom money. This is sad that our hapless poor Nepali citizens have to tolerate such a corrupt system to live with peace and security until a better system can come and change the fortune of our country for our glorious days and throw them down to history as the most unfortunate, brutal and corrupt regime. 79 funny says: October 6th, 2006 at 12:28 pm Bhudai Pundit, You do not have guts to hear the origional insult Bhusadi-wale. This web is not the reflection of the country. Your king is already begging for reconciliation. chch… bechara. By the way what is that balck spot on your forehead? Is it king G’s tika or paras miss the spot when he was shooting his leather gun? 80 funny says: October 6th, 2006 at 12:29 pm Bhudai Pundit, You do not have guts to hear the origional insult Bhusadi-wale. This web is not the reflection of the country. Your king is already begging for reconciliation. chch… bechara. By the way what is that balck spot on your forehead? 81 dakre says: October 6th, 2006 at 2:42 pm funny, honey gunnies,pundits.etc. I still have no hut and a place to pee mann… 82 Bideshi says: October 6th, 2006 at 3:33 pm “the chances of you getting mugged/shot in Washington DC, blown up in an American airline or the tube in UK or Spain is higher than getting a slap on your face by a Maoist in Nepal.” Mugged in DC yes. Airlines,UK, Spain bombs? Don’t be silly. You are still safer flying and riding the train anywhere than just driving from Bhaktapur to KTM. Regarding the criminal gangs posing as Maoists and Maoists turned criminal gangs, they are serious concens to public order. 83 Bideshi says: October 6th, 2006 at 3:40 pm Nepal’s future hope lays not in tourism but in being the overland route between the two new Asian Tigers. We will all prosper from this fortunate cicumstance if the Maoists don’t totally screw it up. 84 Kirat says: October 6th, 2006 at 3:40 pm Bideshi-don’t quote me out of context. I was telling a foreigner that despite the Maoists rebels Nepal is quite safe. How many foreigners have died here from Maoists activities? 85 Bhudai Pundit says: October 6th, 2006 at 8:01 pm Funny Then read the Neplitimes poll. They even have a methodology section so you can see how they conducted their polls. I doubt you would even understand it but it’s there. Again your insults are not funny and they just make you look like a fool. Black spot? Goodness me! And you even and to write that twice! Why do you do this to yourself? Anyway funny, you are just wrong on this issue. By the way where is Gagan Thapa and Krishna Pahadi? I thought they would still be out demanding the end of the Monarchy. What is Bhusadi-wale? 86 Anonymous says: October 6th, 2006 at 9:38 pm I don’t know whatelse it is but reading the articles is a good timepass for me. Thanks to Ujjwal and Dinesh (UWB Duet) for working for it. 87 raj says: October 6th, 2006 at 10:26 pm Bhudai Pandit You are quoting ‘Nepaltimes’ pole’ once and again with those pathetic data, which were collected mostly from hipup wearing high class youngs. If you stand at newspaper or magazine stalls, you will find who the customers of Nepaltimes are. Even if you take them to be true, I can not take them to be right judgement as I don’t take untouchability and caste system to be right, though majority of Nepalese follow caste system and untouchability. Second, what you hope for this country from a feudal lord, still more from GK and from his heir? You talk of ceromonial king. But what is a ceremonial king? Is he a king with any executive power or a no-king without any authority? If he is a king with executive power, he will sting democracy at every availabe chance. If he is a no-king without any kingly power, why we should have that king on 1% expense of national bugdet.Then why should not give up that monarchy, that monarch and his heirs? Yes, Bhudai Pundit, Republican sentiment erupted after 1st April because 1st April was ‘the last straw on the camel’s back’. That was a blatant show of arrogance and hipocracy. Honoured monarch’s behavior in Gokarna Safari Park, arrogancy in Pokhara(probably you read how Bishwa Bandhu Thapa, one of the toop monarchist behaved), state hipocracy(remember, Dr.Tulshi Giri and company were brought to strengthen democracy in this country)and lip service to democracy were enough to stand against monarch. What Gagan Thapa, Krishna Pahadi and others did in one year, a whole generation should be obliged of them for that. I have no regrets and you should not have too. Monarcy is not an alternate to armed Maoists, nor vice versa. Peaceful multiparty democracy is the only alternate to both of them. If you are a democrat, be democrat. If you are a monarchist, be so honestly like Dr.Tulshi Giri. Culture, Feudalism was better than salvery. Capitalism is superior to feudalism.Democracy is far superior to monarchy and dictatorship. If you support inferior against superior, your idea and your action are regressive. I don’t know other definition. If you have any, please go on. 88 hari kc says: October 6th, 2006 at 10:32 pm “If he is a king with executive power, he will sting democracy at every availabe chance” you should be ashamed of your democracy raj the democracy we had in our country for the past 15 odd years was begging to be “stinged” and what KG did was right but i agree he chose the wrong ppl for the right job .. his bad luck i guess 89 Bhudai Pundit says: October 6th, 2006 at 11:21 pm Raj: There is no point beating a dead horse. No one is saying we have to compromise multi-party democracy. Why would having a ceremonial monarchy compromise multi-party democracy? Anyway don’t just say the Nepalitimes data is useless because you don’t like the results. Read their methodology and who they interviewed. Besides, the Nepalitimes is a very respectable publication – probably one of the most respectable. Don’t base all your judgements and preception on Kantipur and the Wagle family. If you don’t even want to read the Nepalitimes just scroll through this blog and see for youeself how many pro-republican bloggers you will find. I think Funny is the only one. And I would not be too comforted by having someone like him/her on my side. I think getting rid of the Monarchy now will have a destabalizing effect in Nepal. Perhaps in the future when things are more stable the people will decide to get rid of the Monarchy. But I asked where is Gagan Thapa now? 90 kaji says: October 7th, 2006 at 5:04 pm pandit: perhaps i missed the boat but let me ask you which poll are you referring to? i remember one poll conducted just before april revolution (not complete yet) by the himal co. but i don’t know if anyone has done another after that. if you’re referring to the poll conducted prior to revoln, i’d say that is a passe. it doesn’t reflect the current ground-reality. if you’re supporting monarchical system just for the sake of ’stabilizing nepal’, then i’d say your argument doesn’t hold much water, coz we’ve seen in the past nepal is destablised just because of the palace-managed games. you name me one prime-minister that could stay in office for a full term, even in panchayat years. i’d argue, nepal will only be stable after getting rid of this white elephant. and we’re ready to do that very soon, via referendum. come to nepal to save your dear monarch, if you wish. otherwise count down has already started. 91 harkee dai says: October 7th, 2006 at 5:59 pm countdown to end of monarchy may have started but the countdown to join the labour camps of maoists for guys like kaji has also started 92 Miss Mysterious!! says: October 7th, 2006 at 6:15 pm Wow!Thamel during the Dashain time was no lesser than the usual days and nights,always like a tinsel town!I really enjoyed a good number of hours in Thamel the same night you came up with this blog.I was elated considering myself an internal tourist for Thamel that night! 93 physco says: October 7th, 2006 at 6:40 pm hoina hamro Wagleji kata harayo bhaneko!!!! ki ho Wagleji is also taking part in elcetion and getting ready for that?? dying to read something intresting. 94 raj says: October 7th, 2006 at 7:14 pm Harkee Dai! I appreciate your guts for standing on footstep of Dr.Tulshi Giri and Sachchit Shamsher as a royalist! You try to frighten people creating a fear psychosis as if ‘exit of king will bring Maoists’ dictatorship.’ That very psychosis was created in 2007 by Rana’s supporters and so was later by Shah’s Bhardars many a times. Naresh = Desh is a dead slogan now and it will not be revived now however you try. Monarch and Maoists are two different problems to be countered at different spaces. Bhudai Pundit! Probably in your last paragraph you try to hint the monarch as a symbole of unity in this country. But you are wrong. In the last five years, this monarch played active role for disunity and so, he must go out of scene to repair that damage. He is arrogant and worse is his heir. Nobody believes him, probably not you too. Why don’t you think of some thing else as a symbol unity. You talk of Gagan. I don’t bother where he is now. He was there when some one, brave and vocal, was needed. Others, him alike, were there too. ‘Joan of Arc’ do not born every day, Bhudai Pundit, neither do martyrs. Well informed and wise person like you should know that and look forward. Don’t go on carrying a dead horse which is rotting every second. 95 Bhudai Pundit says: October 7th, 2006 at 7:17 pm Kaji: No this is the lastest polls. Look here: http://www.nepalitimes.com/download/Poll%202006.pdf I don’t think the countdown has started. You should elaborate on your argument. I agree the Feb 1st move destabilized Nepal. However, you should also keep in mind that the Feb 1st, move (as wrong as it was) was supported by many people. Initially the SPA could not get enough supporters to come out to the streets. But nonetheless this was a terrible mistake by the King and he has paid a price for it as well. But given rise of the Maoists, it is still important that we have a 3 wheel (right now at least). I am still suspicious of the Maoists. I hope they will be able to join the mainstream and reach a peaceful settlement, but I am still don’t trust them 100%. Yes in the future (perhaps near) when we have some stability and Paras has to ascend to the throne the Monarchy will start to loose relevence by itself. At that time we could opt to end this institution if the people so desire. 96 Future of Nepal says: October 7th, 2006 at 7:17 pm who are the Maoist? 3 corers raiased by Maoists : During dashain, Maoists have swindled/raised 3 crores NRs from big Hotels in Kathmandu Valley forcefully. And it’s not making a news at all… none of the newspaper are picking up this news , well perhaps all journalists are also celebrating Dashian… Good news is, recently somewhere in Lalitpur, when maoists came to attack or something, the people from each house in that tole/area came out and retaliated. In that even 2 maoists cadres were killed by the locals…. this is what poeple will be doing now onwards and they will come up with their own method of dealing with these Murderer maoists. Even Police are distributing Bell/Horns to each and every Toles/areas in Kathmandu Valley. I am sure massive offense will be carried out soon against these culprits Maoists.. Baburam gonna ve the first victim this time. 97 Bhudai Pundit says: October 7th, 2006 at 7:19 pm I hate Wagle and his moderation 98 Kirat says: October 7th, 2006 at 7:31 pm Everybody hates the Maoist extortion racket expect the Maoists themselves. A day will come very soon when enough will be enough and the Maoists will be chased out. I believe one of the main reasons that the Maoists are not laying down their weapons (at least the lower level cadres would refuse to) is because as soon as they are unarmed they will be beaten up. Right now we will just have to deal with it the best we can. The gutless SPA are not going to tackle this problem except for a little lip service. But hey guys can’t you see how the Maoists are slowly losing it? They are becoming very unpopular both in the villages and the towns. Before they had the king to rail about, what have they got now? 99 kaji says: October 7th, 2006 at 8:25 pm pundit, you don’t have to go thru moderation if you dont swear or if you dont use obscene words. harke: when i fought with the atrocities of gyane, i also have the gut to fight the same of maoists. i’m not worried. i’m not afraid of their ideologies. neither do i afraid of royalists like you. the only thing i’m against is using of guns/violence in the name of ideologies. 100 harkee dai says: October 7th, 2006 at 8:35 pm “Bhudai Pundit, neither do martyrs” Raj, am having some serious doubts over the definition of martyrs in this country. any tom dick harry who happened to be in the path of a bullet is termed a martyr nowadays.. as far as i consider, the only martyrs in this country are those who laid down their lives against rana regime whom we can see in sahid gad and of course bir ganesh man !!! the ppl who died in jan-andalon-2 .. were bunch of ppl asking for trouble and they got what they deserved 101 m p sharma says: October 7th, 2006 at 8:47 pm Kirat is a capitalist? great a joke. i have never seen a capitalist kirati here. they all admire the maoists as their liberator. i know many of them working in tourism and other fields who always pay tax to maoists as a token of admiration(future investment for free kirati land). 102 Kirat says: October 7th, 2006 at 9:14 pm hey sharma, with your racist mind I am not surprised you never see a capitalist kirati anywhere. no matter what we stand for we’re all Maoists to you. who’s your hero? Hitler with his pure Aryan theory (he’d gas you for not being pure enough though)? Or is it that murderer Nathuram Godse? Or maybe Bal Thackeray? Do you have anything positive to say about non-bahuns/chettris? 103 bitter says: October 7th, 2006 at 10:03 pm nature of bahun, divide the soceity n rule them. no more bahun games now, we r bold n aware enough to face u brothers, just wait n see…… 104 raj says: October 7th, 2006 at 10:36 pm Kirat SPA has enough guts to deal the Maoists, otherwise they would not have towed Maoists along with them. It takes time to tame wild Maoists who fear of Monarchists, even more of them whom they hurt earlier. That fear prevents them to give up arms. You expect a lot from unarmed SPA, more more than what you had expected from the monarch earlier, otherwise you would have not been asking so much from them. They will not dissatisfy you. Just have patience. Extortions, abductions will go along with the guns. No guns – no extortions, no abuctions. 105 m p sharm says: October 7th, 2006 at 10:49 pm well Hilter is bit out of context(its between Germans and Jews, a fight for territory so leave it alone) so are Godse and Thackeray. kirat, how many of capitalist kirati do you know? do not confuse yourself with the capitalist. Capitalists are thinker, not a footpath vender. do not try to associate yourself with anything that looks grand man. such a typical dumb ass kirat. 106 Kirat says: October 7th, 2006 at 10:51 pm raj, hope you are right. It’s a real pity that the army and the other security forces cannot be relied on. Wouldn’t it be great if we had professional/skilled security forces? If the SPA had some steel to back them up things would move quicker to the benefit of the Nepali people. One thing you are wrong about pal is that I had actually expected more from the king. After all it was his kingdom and he already had everything. What and idiot this KG. Actually I wouuld be really surprised if the SPA succeeds in taming the Maoists on their own-they will need a lot of indirect help from the powers that be i.e. India, US, Europe and the UN. 107 Kirat says: October 7th, 2006 at 11:00 pm sharma-you are showing your real intelligence now. Hitler and the other two have a lot of common with you-don’t you know? Your lives are all driven by hatred for other races. How sad. Just tell me from which community have the movers and shakers in Nepal for the last fifteen years (and lots more) come from? Look at what they have turned Nepal into. Just stop the blame game ok? Again you show your true nature by demeaning a footpath vendor. You think they are incapable of thinking? If only your limited brain could fathom it-they are the true capitalists. Anyway talking to an idiot like you is just a waste of time (I should learn by now!). 108 shyam says: October 7th, 2006 at 11:26 pm you’re right kirat. reacting a casteist/racist comment is just a waste of time. one should concentrate more on socio-politico-economic questions pertaining to our dear country. we’ve to think how we could constructively contribute for the betterment of nepal and nepalis. sharma shame on you for becoming personal and judging one by one’s caste/ethnicity. 109 m p sharm says: October 7th, 2006 at 11:53 pm footpath venders are true capitalist? you don’t understand thinking and thinking capitalism is two diffent think, do not confuse yourself. its not ‘us’ who ruined the country, its mandale, maobadi and other, you know what i mean, the exis of evil. okay let me draw a little interesting corollary for you. footpath venders are capitalist, moiasts are capitalist therefore kirat is capitalist. is that ok for you? 110 harkee dai says: October 8th, 2006 at 12:02 am footpath vendor=capitalist maoists=capitalist kirat=captilaist…. ie. kirat = footpath vendor = maoist 111 Bhudai Pundit says: October 8th, 2006 at 4:00 am Kaji: Sorry this wanker Wagle’s moderation policy is blocking one of my comments. To answer your question. The Nepalitimes poll is a new poll if you go to their website and look on the column on the left side you should find a link to it. 112 Future of Nepal says: October 8th, 2006 at 7:02 am Kirat, it is easy to say “Idiot” that you are intelligence too low, when you are calling idiot some one in open forum, so as you started, you are most idiot, stupid who can not start conversation intelligentlly take shelt verbal abuse, we can say you “thug” what ever your figure are, u do like such? LikeLike

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