Spring Thunder in Nepal: Glorious but Inconclusive

By Govinda Neupane
An Analysis. UWB received this article in email.

The so-called national consensus on holding the election of the constituent assembly may not necessarily provide synergy only for forward movement. The situation is fluid and complex and it is natural that the Maoists will maintain their army and even they may expand and strengthen their fighting capacity….

Therefore, the polarization between the parliamentary forces and the Maoists sounds imminent. Hence, in all probability, the people have to live in a situation of civil war till the unjust upper class Khas rule becomes history……

Once, I was in Phalaicha village, near Chyangthapu in northern Panchthar district. I saw large plots of fertile land where paddy was ready to harvest. In a mountainous region, it was something special. During discussions with the villagers, I found out that most of the plots belonged to the Khas (the ruling nationality in Nepal) families, though they were a tiny minority there.

After a few years, I saw the same phenomenon in Zimbabwe. Nearly all arable land had been captured by the white farmers. The sugarcane fields, fruit farms and maize or vegetable cultivations belonged to the Whites, whereas the black Zimbabweans had to satisfy with less fertile communal land or they had to survive in the patches of the bush.

Why the Khasas in Phalaicha and the Whites in Zimbabwe had the ownership over the most fertile land, though they were a tiny minority? Also, they had migrated much later than the indigenous people who cleared the forests, developed technologies appropriate to their time and started cultivations. This is a fundamental question. The class composition and nationality or racial dominance of a state structure, which controls power, makes all difference.

After the conclusion of the popular movement with partial success in April 2006, the late comers not only claimed victory but also grabbed opportunities.

The same happened before, during and after the Spring Thunder of 2006 in Nepal. Hundreds of thousands of people, particularly from the rural areas waged relentless struggle for more than a decade. Their resolute struggle gave birth to a bigger force and that force reached to the urban centers and resulted to a massive popular movement. Also, the parliamentary parties and the urban middle class joined the movement after the royal coup of February 2005. Those were the glorious days when hundreds of thousands of people marched in the cities and towns all over Nepal and the villages sent their beloved daughters and sons to create the Spring Thunder.

After the conclusion of the popular movement with partial success in April 2006, the late comers not only claimed victory but also grabbed opportunities. The urban middle class intellectuals, both who participated in the movement and who stayed away, have been celebrating victory and forwarding their wish list for the encashment of benefits. The workers, mostly from informal sectors have gone back to their work places as without work they can not survive. The poor and landless peasants or the agriculture workers who came to encircle the capital city and district HQs have gone back to their respective villages to work in the field again as an agriculture worker or as a militia or as a political activist or something else. The agitators, who had no shoes on their feet or no proper dresses to cover their bodies, were the driving force of the mass movement. But, they are no more in the picture. They are neither in the cabinet nor in the parliament nor in the august gatherings in the convention halls of the star graded hotels.

Rather than accepting the simple fact that the people are sovereign and letting them decide through the constituent assembly what they want, they are trying to create comfortable space for themselves through parliamentary decrees.

A different lot is staking claim that democracy is their child. The political leaders from the parliamentary ‘mainstream’ have started to clean up their faces by making changes primarily directed towards adjustments within their ruling coalition, which includes the monarchy. Rather than accepting the simple fact that the people are sovereign and letting them decide through the constituent assembly what they want, they are trying to create comfortable space for themselves through parliamentary decrees. They have to concentrate on making arrangements for a period covering from the time they took over the state power to the election of the constituent assembly. Also, they have to create conducive environment for the election.

But, they are behaving, as if, their parliament is immortal and they are one with the mandate to rule forever. They are already in the business of blame-game. They are blaming the Maoists for collecting donations or recruiting people in their army. They are blaming not only other parties within the ruling coalition but also the other factions of their own parties. Perhaps, negative energy is their strength and they are busy generating the same.

By proclaiming ‘supremacy of the parliament’, they are intending to tame the king. In reality, they themselves saved the seat of the monarch.

It is strange when they deliver lectures on parliamentary supremacy. By proclaiming ‘supremacy of the parliament’, they are intending to tame the king. In reality, they themselves saved the seat of the monarch. They are also creating environment to tame the Maoists. For this purpose, they are trying to play the role and exercise the authority of the constituent assembly through their ‘supreme’ parliament. The people on the street were demanding the establishment of a progressive democratic republic of Nepal, whereas they got the restoration of the parliament. The people fought for a long time for fundamental socio-political and economic transformation, whereas they got nothing which could substantially changes power relationships at the grassroots and above.

Although, declaring Nepal a secular state is a change in positive direction, other changes are far less than the expectations of the people. Rather than going through a surgical process to remove the brain tumor, the parliamentary parties opted for simple medication.

Anyway, the parliamentary political forces represent the upper class. Therefore, it is certain that the people should rise once again to address the transformational issues. Hence, another agitation to transform the society and change the power relationship has become imminent. When the people rise, they rise as a tide and break the barriers made out of any material. The parliamentary leaders should understand this simple fact. Not their ‘parliamentary supremacy’, but the people power will decide the future course of Nepal. These parliamentary leaders, the supper Gods of democracy, failed to understand or accept this simple fact.

Another agitation to transform the society and change the power relationship has become imminent. When the people rise, they rise as a tide and break the barriers made out of any material.

There are two major fronts to concentrate on to make changes- the superstructure and grassroots. The supreme sacrifice of thousands of people during the decade starting 1996 was neither for replacing one lot of corrupts with another set of corrupts nor it was for providing opportunity to foreign forces to have a field-day. The same personalities, who looted the country, played with national interests and misused power to its extreme, are holding the state power today. They are a bit different in form than those actors of the royal regime but they are the same in essence in regard to the ruling culture, class and philosophical paradigm. They have already got more than what they were aspiring and clinging to it is what they will try for. Therefore, from now on, talking big and blocking the fundamental changes would be the business of these politicians of the parliamentary school.

The ruling political class will talk loudly about constituent assembly and will put all energy to strengthen the restored parliament to achieve the goal of maintaining the status quo. Moreover, they will try to restore the dissolved local bodies to improve their access to local levels. Basically, maintaining the status quo that they have decreed through the restored parliament is the goal, program and policy of these ‘mainstream’ political forces and their role and behaviors will stay around this goal. Therefore, neither they will change the superstructure fundamentally nor the base. Although, they have curtailed the power of the monarchy to a great extent, it is foolish to believe that the patient never returns back from the ICU.

Basically, maintaining the status quo that they have decreed through the restored parliament is the goal, program and policy of these ‘mainstream’ political forces.

Perhaps, the parliamentary leaders also know this fact. Therefore, in some extreme situation, they may opt for a republic. Still, fundamentally and pragmatically, Nepal will continue to be an upper class Khas state. The talk of restructuring the state could be a ploy to pacify the mass anger and not for really to establish cooperative federalism with national autonomy granted to the extent of right to self-determination including the right of secession, if the people of a particular autonomous region wish so. If the leaders of the seven-party alliance would be committed on restructuring the state, they could have outlined the core components of their proposal in their ‘parliamentary proclamation’. But, they didn’t do.

Now, the constituent assembly has replaced the ‘powerful’ Hindu Gods. It is strange but true that worshipping the constituent assembly has become a regular feature. The royalists, ‘mainstream’ politicians, intellectuals, civil society barons and media heavyweights all are chanting the hymns in praise of the constituent assembly. Why so? It is easier to derail the process from within. There are only a few among the above mentioned groups who may be genuinely interested to go for the real democratic exercise to establish a progressive democratic republican state order.

It is strange but true that worshipping the constituent assembly has become a regular feature. The royalists, ‘mainstream’ politicians, intellectuals, civil society barons and media heavyweights all are chanting the hymns in praise of the constituent assembly. Why so?

Therefore, the so-called national consensus on holding the election of the constituent assembly may not necessarily provide synergy only for forward movement. The situation is fluid and complex and it is natural that the Maoists will maintain their army and even they may expand and strengthen their fighting capacity.

What next then? Probably, the actors of the royal regime will go on hibernation and wait for an opportune moment to bounce back. The masters of the parliamentary stream will try to establish themselves effectively. Although, there could be a honeymoon phase between the parliamentary forces and the Maoists, but that will not last long. Even if there is an interim government participated in by the Maoist that too would be a temporary arrangement. The class contradiction, incompatible ideological paradigms and fundamentally different strategic missions will not allow them to stay together for a long time. Therefore, if the election of the constituent assembly will not be organized immediately, forget about addressing the transformational issues and designing a political system by the parliamentary forces and the Maoists together.

Even if there is an interim government participated in by the Maoist that too would be a temporary arrangement. The class contradiction, incompatible ideological paradigms and fundamentally different strategic missions will not allow them to stay together for a long time.

Most probably, the parliamentary forces may not behave differently in strategic sense than that what they did in the past. They will try to prolong the life of the reinstated parliament and thus, their own government. They will rule in the cities and towns for fairly a long time. The Maoists will rule the villages and remote areas directly and will rule over the cities and towns indirectly, also for fairly a long time. They will stay away from Kathmandu as that will be some sort of insurance against foreign military invasion. Hence, the absolute desire for peace shall not materialize provided that the Maoists do not degenerate or northern India does not come under effective Maoist influence, which shall enable the Maoists in Nepal to capture the central state power or the Maoists are not defeated militarily.

Most likely, the common men and women who are aspiring for peace through the election of the constituent assembly will be frustrated, the merchants of peace will sell even the derailed process to build their own future and the political forces will constantly fight for supremacy till two separate governance systems will remain in practice. Unifying the governance systems will be a strategic goal for both, the Maoists and the parliamentary forces. That goal could be realized through the election of the constituent assembly, which might address the transformational politico-economic and social issues. But, this option is passing through the process of serious derailment. Some of the ministers and the ambassadors of the influential countries have already put the demand forward that the Maoist should renounce violence and lay down their arms before the election of the assembly.

The absolute desire for peace shall not materialize provided that the Maoists do not degenerate or northern India does not come under effective Maoist influence.

This demand is the key to derailment. Alternatively, the goal of unifying the governance systems could be realized by the victory of one ruling side. Therefore, the polarization between the parliamentary forces and the Maoists sounds imminent. Hence, in all probability, the people have to live in a situation of civil war till the unjust upper class Khas rule becomes history.

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80 thoughts on “Spring Thunder in Nepal: Glorious but Inconclusive”

  1. Hey Neaplese see thsi news:

    Christians Hopeful With Nepal’s “Secular State” Declaration
    http://www.gfa.org

    USA, May 21, 2006: (HPI Note: The following article is from the Christian evangelical organization, Gospel for Asia.)

    Described by some observers as a “21st century Magna Carta,” the sweeping political changes decreed yesterday by Nepal’s parliament are being met with prayerful caution by Gospel for Asia leaders in the region. “To experience this historic change for this nation is truly an answer to prayers,” declared Narayan Sharma, Gospel for Asia’s national leader for Nepal. “For the last 10 years there has been no prayer meeting or worship service in our churches without specific prayer for the nation.” “This is definitely welcome news,” said GFA President K.P. Yohannan. “It is the first time in the history of Nepal that there has been a democratic, secular government.” If the changes passed by the parliament stand, they will indeed be a peaceful revolution for the mountain kingdom. “May 18, 2006–the day a new Nepal was born,” declared the N epali Times. It explained that Thursday was “the day the parliament restored by ‘people power’ declared itself supreme and decided to save the monarchy from a king who nearly took it down with him. ” In the new Nepal, decisions on royal succession and other palace matters will be made by the parliament’s State Affairs Committee. The parliament, taking power on the strength of recent massive street demonstrations, also passed laws to: 1. Slash royal allowances; 2. Tax royal income; 3. Allow court trial of royal family members in court in criminal cases; 4. Strip the king’s command of the army; 5. Replace the royal household with civil servants; 6. Declare Nepal a secular state instead of “the world’s only Hindu kingdom” It is this last provision that is of most interest to Nepal’s long-oppressed Christian minority.

    For the rest of the article, click URL above.

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  2. The present parliament has no right to make other laws than interium laws only constitution assembly has it. Then why it is trying to make super super supreme. The old parliamentarian are not true representative of people. ONCE AGAIN DO the constitutioanl assembly election as soon as possible. Do not Loiter around. Otherwise many many questions and no answer. What is that? That is anarchy.

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  3. Santosh Ji, what about the photos of B.P., G.P. and Ganesman that congress always loves to put in their promos?

    Lets not forget, that its the ideology that we respect or follow. Not persons in particular.

    Finally, don’t belittle Stalin. We would still be in war had not the Red Army captured Berlin.

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  4. I agree Govinda
    The April Aprising was incomplete, the real movement started right after the glorious 19 days. Khas! this is the ground reality and thr is no denying that Unequal distribution of the resources is the root cause of conflict n main hurdle of societal development.

    so what!
    Let’s hope for betterment.

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  5. I wonder what have the seven party and maoist been thinking on the issue of
    1) Regional government.
    ( pradehik swayatta sarkar )
    eg. limbuwan, khambuwan, tharuwan, tamuwan, magarat and the rest
    2) Judiciary .

    somebody , got a clue ? please post it here.

    these issues just got sidelined.
    Is it a ploy by the maoist ?
    suruma , yi muddha haru uchalyo uchalyo
    ani pachi thacharyo…..

    Everybody msut remember , How did maoist start this insurgency ?
    If Prachanda and Baburam forget, dukkha ko bela kasle sath diyeko thiyo uniharulai …… then it will start another round of insurgency…

    has anybody thought of this ??

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  6. All the things has to be equalised is not the bad idea even re-distributing the land. If we are changing then we should change all in total. There should be regional government and equal opportunities in job. No particular caste in the decision level and should be lead equally. Even in minister level all caste should be given opportunities equally based on their population. Leaders should not be only Brahmins, other should also be given opportunities. If we do not take step immediately then another Andolan part-3 will start agains it like against Khas….

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  7. Through the decision of secular state, all the problem of religions, culture and caste problem can be solved. But it will be slow but steady. There is no problem to have Pradeshik governments. It will not be easy like sloganeering. When the people have the responsibility to develop their own regions, then how difficult it is to rule a poor region like Dolpo Humla Jajakot, Kalikot etc. people will come to realise.

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  8. Land distribution can be made rationalized, but you can not distribute land equally any more.

    The main comonent of land reform should be that the land should never be split into equal parts even among brothers. Many of the social and economic evils are rooted on this issue.

    Problem of casteism can never be solved. The Khas may disppear, the castes of dalits may be erased. But there will always casteism in other forms. A university professor or a scientist is a “Brahmin”. Government employees and Security personnels are “Kshetriyas”; A transportation operator is “Vaishya” and an environmental and public health engineer is “Sudra”. Caste is born out of mind and intellect. The four castes will remain forever, and as a result there will always be some social heirarchy as a result of this. Some one might rename those terms but can not eliminate them. Perhaps this is the reason why communism is true only in slogans. One may have more than one attributes of the caste.

    Yes, the social cast discrimination can be eliminated. But establishing autonomous regions based on the caste system is like going back in history. People will be pressed to flee from one place to other. Dangerous situation will arise.

    Best solution is to understand all the issues and plan for a better education system in Nepal – in whatever the system of government be. If every child starts getting good education from today, a new generation in thirty years will be able to address all such issues. Then many things will equalize.

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  9. First Blow of the Secular Nepal to Hindu ad Budhist, No holiday for the ‘Bhoto Jatra’.

    and in another instance “Speaker of the House of Representatives (HoR), Subash Nemwang said Wednesday that the HoR proclamation on secularism is not yet complete.” what you want now? that people will not allowed to go to temple and offer their prayers or no dashin holidays and no dashin bonus.

    God Save the communist ass-holes

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  10. The UWB is getting less UNITED WE BLOG! FOR DEMOCRATIC NEPAL and more UNITED WE BLOG! FOR PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF NEPAL. I am wondering will the Nepali Ukhan apply to UWB itself? The Ukhan says BAKHRA KHANE BAGHLE BHEDA PANI KHANCHHA.

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  11. Dear friends,
    Khas is a tiny majority in Nepal but can rule in Nepal for a long time, why??

    people have to live in a situation of civil war??? No, People are already in Civil war now and they are fighting each others. That is being continue since then till now and ever.

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  12. Govinda Jee,
    You are absolutely right about Khas domination in Nepal. I think in the modern days the Khas category should be named differently so as to capture other ethnic groups: Nepal origin as well as those immigrating from India that are emerging as dominant elites. Bahuns and Chhetris may have their huge landholdings, but Newars and Marwadis have occupied the business sectors. As the nation is in the phase of transformation from feudalism to capitalism, hegemony of new elites can not be undermined. Maybe this is the time to rethink and recategorize the dominant elites of Nepal.

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  13. As Aristotle says:

    Trying to make unequal things equal in the name of justice is the greatest form of injustice

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  14. I am not the supportet of Mahandra’s Got to Village campaign but I think that with laying down of arms by Maoists ( I don’t know whether it will happen or not ?) young educated people should join politics and got to the villages to serve and develop their regions.NGO/INGO idea is very good but transparency of their accounts ahould be maintained. If the educated people do not go to the villages, how the rural people can develop themselves ? It is almost impossible. When I was young and participated in the NDS in a very retome part of Nepal, I realised that without education of rural masses, development cannot be imposed on the villages.

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  15. Mr. Govinda Neupane, what Khas are you talking about when your own khas Bhramins, the minority are ruling the rest of Nepal. SPAM is full of Khas Bahuns like you. I know you might be honest and true about the way you feel but dont you think, we might think its like being a hypocrite and opportunist? Ko Khas? You Bahuns are the ones who created the whole cast system and have put yourself on the top of it, and now you are talking about Khas. There will be no one dying of hunger if every people work hard in Nepal. You are a pure maoist puppet and are taking about their land reforms crap. Do you really think it will work? Don’t have to answer me, but answer yourself, if you have more then enough land, would you give it up for the one without land? WE ARE NOT GOD! WE ARE HUMANS and we have a little bit of greed, a little bit of fear and a little bit of faith. But you bahuns are the ones who have fucked our nations, and our religion. Beware! People on the streets were just for peace and nothing else. There where not there to fulfill your or the SPAM thirst for power! And if you don’t shut up! People are going to rise again, and wash your identity. – Everybody except Govinda Neupane, sorry for sounding so much anti Bahuns, but just give it a thought and you will understand why do I sould like one.

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  16. People are talking about 237 years of shah rule and indicating how bad the shah kings have been. I won’t disagree to that. But I would like to point out that Prithivi Narayan Shah, is a king/personality which we can not ignore and align him with the rest of the kings. It seems people are angry with all the Shah kings, and talk about pillage of 237 years. Had it not been for PN Shah, we would all be singing Jana Gana Mana right now. So my friends, when you bad mounth Khas kings, spare this guy. Now if you are a person who sees political boundary on a maps as an imaginary line, I have nothing to say. Having said all this, I still agree that Nepal has been pillaged by the few on the top – let me tell you this – majority of the khas as also the victims. But like Neupane said, I want to make khas a history and if I kill a few innocents on the way, I will justify by saying that it’s a war – and everything is fair there.

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  17. Mr. Nepal,

    yeah bahuns suck! They created these divisions of the class/caste. They put themselves on the top. But which ones did? Was it the one who is your neighbour right now, or the one with whom you shared your classroom or was it 5000 years ago? You do sound so much of anti-bahun because you are one. Nothing wrong with that. I wonder if you are also anti-white with the same degree (they had blacks as slaves), or you are anti-chinese(they are treating Tibetans like shit) or anti-Indians (they are treating Kashmiris and North east people like crap) or anti-pakistani (they killed so many begalis in East pakistan before 73) or anti-bhutanese (they are butchering fellow nepalese) or anti-german ( for being nazis) or anti-janapense (for killing and experimenting on chinese and koreans prior to and during World Ward II). Where does your anti’sm stop?

    From the way it sounds like, I am starting an ethnic war. First I want to kill all Khas (bahuns or otherwise), then I want to kill all Newars (minority in numbers accumulating all the wealth of the nation). I don’t have to kill Madwari’s, as they will run away by this time. Then I will kill all Limbu, they are different from Magars like me. Then I will kill Rais, as they are similar to Limbus. In the process, I will kill all the Madhisey. what the heck, since my last magar girl friend dumped me, I will kill all the magars as well. Gurung, I like them I will leave them aside for no reason. Who else is left?

    Let’s break this country into pieces!

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  18. rebel 101:
    That was really funny – good to see some refreshing sense of humor here once in a while.

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  19. Nationalising all properties are the best way, why only of Khas? There shouldn’t be Nepali language in Lok Sewa and school books there should be regional languages in the books and exams, that is the one force where brahmins are getthing advantage in Beraucracy…the Pujari of the temples should be all caste….why khas is making Guru to brahmin that should be changed…Hindu dharma is controlled by brahmin that is why it is not getting popular and should be changed… immediately…leaders should be according to regional caste not only brahmins…why should we obey brahmins like we were obeying khas???? The whole system should be changed and that could be only possible through maoist regime but their leaders also need be re-elected…even looking at discussion pannel the present government is appointed all brahmins but why????we hate bahunism like we were hating khas???

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  20. Some people are mistaken that Khas are only chhetris. That’s wrong because most of the Brahmins are also Khas. Khas was a tribe or race who were belived to have come from the banks of Caspion Sea.They were Aryans who came first to Harrappa and Mohenjodaro and some of them entered Nepal through Kashmir area. Kumain Bahuns are different who came from North West of India.

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  21. The theory of polarization claimed by Mr. Govinda Neupane, who is know as a communist ideologue is possible just because of ideological obsession of the Maoist backed by people like Mr. Govinda Neupane. It is a clear manifestation of the mindset of Mr. Neupane that he is fraught with communist ideology and has never understood democracy. He does not believe in democracy and provoking Maoist not to believe in democracy. He is completely a racial person. The idea he is talking is completely a mess, crazy, bloodthirsty, full of confusion, lack of development perspective, eighteenth century fragmented idealism, carving for vandalism and puerile in a globalize world. If Mr. Neupanes’ ideas are given opportunity to be implemented, Nepal will be rolled back to 18th century and poverty, injustice, discrimination and underdevelopment will be the only dominant characteristics of Nepalese society. Don’t read only the classical communist documents Mr. Neupane. You need to be opened. Don’t instigate people for racial issues that will be a boomerang to Nepalese society. If you love Nepalese society don’t interpret Nepalese society with the outdated base- superstructure parameter. It is a quite old and out-fashioned style. It has already been tested and failed. It has been buried. Don’t try to make Nepal another battleground for your love to the buried ideas and doctrines. You are not the only one who can fight there are other as well. Don’t try to threat people. Don’t try to foil democracy. Be aware Mr. Neupane.

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  22. Someone suggested that now marwaris and newaris should also be in the elite circle. Yeah right! Anyone who works hard and earns some money is in the elite circle. Is that it?
    Marwaris must be the biggest minority and yet they have been successful, albeit working according to the nations ways. Now people suggest penalising them for being a success. What a loser mentality. We Nepalis will never get out of our rut, because we have too many people with a losers mentality. Instead of looking ahead, we look behind. Ranas with lot of money is a thing of the past, they have either sold off to survive or their property was taken by the government after 1951. We are assuming too many things that are not true. We can’t just look at say Pashupati Shumshere and assume all Ranas are like that. For every Pashupati Rana there are many that are in the opposite spectrum of him.
    As for thakuris, well besides the royal famil;y and people like Chand who have been in politics, how many thakuris do we know who are well off?
    I think the most well off people in Nepal now are probably : Girija and clan and Prachanda and clan. Others will be the big Marwari businessmen, but like I said they are a minority who have made good, withg or without the flaws in the system. Don’t blame them for our weaknesses – who do you think the maoists extort most of their money from?

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  23. “Had it not been for PN Shah, we would all be singing Jana Gana Mana right now”

    it could have been jana gana mana or god bless america. before gurhka kings nepali people used to sing different song but with gurkha king PN shaha we sing shreepancha gambhir.. what the hell that make different to nepali. history tells us that what gurhka king pn shaha did to the people of kirtipur and panga. he has blood of innocent kirtipure on his hand. he is no different from other gurhka kings.

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  24. there are both bahuns and chettris in khas community. these people are originally from Khasghar–Central Asia not from Caspian Sea as someone above put it. also Khas are not the first people to invade Harrappa and Mohenjodaro, the word Khas occured only in late Puranic period–dont try to twist the history. Chanakya stated that Khas are “hina barni chhetris”–meaning low ranked warrior people–living near present day Khasmir, north of India. when some of them became bahuns has no record in history. there are lot of description of wars between Aryan from India and Khas, Cynthian communities in Purana and other late Hindu religous texts.

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  25. mr rl singh,

    “what the hell that make different to nepali.”

    the difference is there would be no nepali. yes, he was brutal to kirtipure and killed like savages – however, like it or not the identity that we carry it today, nepal as a nation and nepali as people is because of him. had he not been there, chances are we would be gobbled up by the british ( i don’t think kirtipur could have fought with the british alone.. not saying gurkha alone could ) and after the british, we would be singing jana gana mana.. btw, the chances of god save america (i think you meant star spangled banner) is very very minute considering the fact that america is geographically very far…

    however, if you never accepted the fact that there exists a nation beyound the boundaries of ktm, you are probably right – he was an “outsider” from gurkha.. but then malla kings were biharis (originally from bihar)?

    damn! i am confused.. lichhavi also came from india… who are we? No idendity!! Sucks..

    What the hell let’s just sing Jana Mana Gana, what say you, ram lal?

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  26. we would have been singing “Jana Gana Mana”, instead we are singing “Sriman Gamvir”, one is written in Hindi, other in Khas kura. Hindi is foreign language and Khas kura is imported–by the way back, then Maithali was close to nepali society, Khas kura not even existed. British Raj could have gobble up Nepal, but gurkha king gobbled it up. i am sure someone else would have been giving same logic as of yourself if it were not gurkha kings. so what is the difference.

    only maoist country exists beyond the boundary of ktm.

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  27. Dear friends, don’t you see the writing on the wall? That the Maoists are out to capture power through “the barrell of a gun” and glorify the “revolution” by massaging Nepalese ego, claiming to be the true “standard bearers” of the Revolutionary International Movement; where all else have failed, they think that they are succeeding!

    Do we also not see that this “Quoxite” adventure is doomed to fail in today’s geo-political reality? Their success will in due course of time, invite a response similar to the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia which swept away the Pol Pot Regime. Only this time it will be the Indians and the other Free World powers. The damage will however have been done to the Nepalese people who will bear the brunt of this impending disaster.

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