Strong action should be taken against those who are trying to destabilize Nepali society by exploiting the religious sentiment
As Nepal is heading toward democratic transition, religious fundamentalists and royalists are trying to destabilize the country under the cover of defending Hinduism. These are the people who were kicked out of the power by April’s popular Peoples’ Movement. They were desperately looking for an opportunity to fight back. They found one in the parliament’s historic proclamation that declared Nepal, the world’s only Hindu kingdom, a secular state.
The anarchic mobs of Hindu fundamentalists are not only burning copies of newspaper that wrote in favor of secularism but also trying to exploit the public sentiment in cases like mistreating of a patient by a hospital. The other day, extremists burnt the copies of Kantipur daily with an editorial welcoming the secularism. It is widely believed that extremists were instigating the protest against Kathmandu’s Everest Nursing Home yesterday and the day before yesterday. (article continues after the box)
Contain hooliganism
Editorial of the Kathmandu Post
The recent spate of violence in Butwal, Birgunj and Kathmandu is a signal of imminent large-scale anarchy in the country. Though some minor anarchical incidents during the period of political fluidity may not be that unusual, a serious risk of counter-revolution and civil war cannot be ruled out. The pretext on which doctors were beaten and hospitals vandalized in Butwal and Kathmandu, about 17,000 copies of Kantipur daily burnt to ashes in Birgunj, and the scale of road blockades on Wednesday and Thursday [May 25] in Kathmandu are simply unnatural. These incidents indicate the involvement of certain interest group with vested interest who is trying to flare up violence in the country. The government should take control of the situation and ensure law and order. It cannot take these events lightly as the reactionary forces would always try to prove the people’s government a failure.It is difficult to pinpoint anyone for the recent violence. However, there are suspicions regarding the involvement of either the royalists or the Maoists. The royalist hand is suspected because it would try to play religion card and evoke people’s sentiments. On the other hand, Maoists’ involvement cannot be ruled out because their aspiration to overrun this government and establish their own overnight has not completely died down. We believe that anarchism and hooliganism will help no one. If the royalist were behind this incident, the king would lose whatever position and property he has been left with. And, if the Maoists are involved, they will lose all their credibility and chance to win votes when peaceful elections take place. We don’t believe that the Maoists would try to ruin the upcoming peaceful environment, but there are elements within their party who should be monitored carefully.
Whoever is involved in the incident, the attacks on doctors and hospitals in Kathmandu and Butwal is condemnable. We support the doctors’ call for strike. At the same time, we also urge the doctors to be sympathetic to the problems of the sick and ailing, and limit their strike to only two days. The Post is simply confused and awe-stricken by the behavior of people who burnt our publications at Birgunj. They are a bunch of hooligans. Such anti-social elements should be contained immediately and effectively. Similarly, the disruption of vehicular movement in Kathmandu and subsequent spread of rumors can have serious ramifications. Until and unless the government appoints honest and competent people in key security positions, the idea of good governance will remain an illusion.
The government hasn’t taken any action against these fundamentalists so far. Yesterday Prime Minister Girija Prasad Koirala took up with King Gyanendra the matter of royalists’ alleged involvement – direct or indirect – in orchestrating anarchy in various parts of the country, reports the Kathmandu Post. According to a highly-placed source [of the Post], PM Koirala gave the example of the involvement of Nanda Kishor Ghirahiya, a member of the dissolved Rajparishad, in inciting violence in the name of religion, during the 75-minute meeting at Narayanhiti Palace. Koirala told the king that “the government would be compelled to take stern action against royalists” if they are not stopped.
Home Minister Krishna Prasad Sitaula said on Thursday [May 25] that the government would take strong action against those promoting religious fundamentalism and plotting against democracy, reports eKantipur. Speaking at the House of Representatives, Sitaula said the government was committed to take strong action against those who are carrying out anti-secularist activities for anti-democratic ends. “I assure you that all those plotting against democracy in the name of pushing their fundamentalist ideas will not be spared,” Sitaula told MPs. He also informed that all police and administrative mechanisms have been instructed to take such activities under control.
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111 responses to “Neutralize Hindu Fundamentalism in Nepal”
Long Live Hindu Republic of Nepal
Hindu sentiments have been clearly hurt. Even ongoing polls suggest that atleast half or more still want Nepal to be non secular. This is a huge amount of people.
Until and CA elections are held these matters should not have been decided according to maoist wishes. Why should as UWB writyes strong action be taken against people who are genuinely affected and no action be taken against maoists extortions, hospital and doctors vandalism and manhandling etc.? Get your priorities straight. Have you (UWB) even once stated that strong action should be takern against maoists who are extorting money and threatening people?
Until you do it, your statements are worth less then the page it is written on.
This govt. does not have the balls to take action against anyone. They have released thousands of criminals due to maoist demands, without even having anything concrete on their plate from the maoist side. A ceasefire can easily be broken in an instance. How about now demanding that the maoists lay down their weapons and hand it in?
This government is spineless, and they can hope all they want that the maoists will be reasonable, but all that will happen the moment the maoists do not agree to something will be the end of a ceasefire and urban war, and the govt. will get nothing but a kick on their assess.
Everytime this govt. in earnest has done positive things at the behest of the maoists, the maos say “Good but not enough”, now it is time for the govt. to reply “Okay, but what have you done for me lately?”
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UWB atleast stop hurting our intellegence and change your slogan to the above.
I have posted in this blog many times that Gyanedra will through the HINDU CARD in the ring to save himself. People need to be very careful of these DURBAR elements.
I mean
through = throw
in the (above) post#5.
sri and kp,
What have you said is completely true and I agree with you in totality. My guess is that we are building theoretical backgrounds too heavily in the name of having ‘meaningful’ discussion in this ‘forum’.
HoR itself giving place to the PRATIGAMANKARI, even Andolankari are not satisfied with this all- of-certain decision of secular state. The fire has been ignite by HoR, they should atleast consult others before making this big and useless decision.
That is why there is a joke that- GPK just read the fax copy paper of maoist in HoR.
Be mosom ko barsat…
Alleging that Gyanendra has anything to do with the Hindu agenda is like saying the King of Thailand is synonomous with the Buddhist agendas. Give us a break, Hinduism is a very very diverse religion, and to suggest that Hindus base all their judgments on Gyanendra who has not even conducted himself like a Hindu King, is more angering. We do not care wether Gyanendra tries to play this card or that, politicans will try and play any card they can find, BUT this secularism issue has made Hinduism an issue and neither Gyanendra, the maoists or these SPA buggers can change that.
People should not mess around with religion, because this issue is bigger than the issues of a nation and any politcal agendas.
hindu fundamentalism !!!
don’t worry pal , they are a dying breed.their days of illogical supremacy aka hegemony to prison the conscience of non-hindu Nepalese are gone.
no matter what they do to fish in the liquid situation in Nepal now, they will be crushed.
hindu fundamentalism chan bharilai !!!
tara secularim juni bharilai !!!
I swear, in the name of Lord Shiva, You just tell me where the writer of this article lives and I will burn him to death. I want peace in this country but not all cost and definitely not at a cost of our religion. We’ve lived closely with our religion and am willing to anything to protect it. Bom bom Bhole!
Yes, I totally agree with all of you guys. UWB is just another political play ground of the Maoist and the leaders. Do we have anything against the Maoist and the politicians here. And Hey! Hindu, this guys name is some Wagle is guess. He is running this blog. But I am not too sure. Better check it twice before burning him to death. I am serious! not a joke.
What a bunch of jokers these Shiv Sena wannabes are!
Why this blog is touching the sensitive issues like this??Just shut up for some time about the religion and secular state. For people, religion is far more above than politics and the nation. Just watch the Nepal times survey, one will find 52% are upset about this quick decision. All these 52% are not pratigamkari.. HoR should remember..HoR itself is in controversial about their decision. They are telling to the people to warn them. When people warn about secularism, now they are telling them to take action.
How comes the maoists who attacked the hospital in Lumbini are Pratigamankari? How come the people who were against the beating by the security force is Pratgamankari?
We think they are taking the same line of royal-rule (they saw all maobadi in the movement) and which makes them more weaker. HoR should try to understand the public view and grievances at this moment.
hindu
wanna fight ??
come tomorrow at khulla manch, let’s see who will kill who.
achana ko pir , khukuri lai ke thaha.
bisau barsa dekhi soshiyera , utpidit bhayera aru ko tulana ma second darja nagarik ko haisiyat ma bachne hami anya dharmabalambi nepali haru lai thaha cha……yo secularism ko ghosana ley katro biswas ra khusiyali lyayeko cha bhanneey….
ta mula….. bahun… jaslai ahile afno pakheta katiyera digbhramit bhayeko cha…… ta kaha jyada shakti huncha ki aaja samma thicho micho sahera baseko hami sanga jyada shakti huncha ?????
ladai garne ho bhane ……aija
i will fight with u , wherever u want ?
c’mon give me ur address and tel number.
do u have the guts ???
The moderator is a bigot!! I posted links for critical analysis of secularism and religion but removed my comment and links. If this site as blog is filled with bigotry then why continue this blog?
May be the moderator also have been bribed by Christian missionaries, pope or peadophile christians priest!!
http://www.christianaggression.org
See how table is turned in an instant. People have right to speak their discontent and who is sitaula and his gang to speak of to “contain” genuine feeling against Secular state. By secular means learning to accept other as well. I see none of that in Secular advocating, bible carrying,Madrasa running comment mongers. By calling secular does not carry any weight, being secular does- which we were but not anymore.
checking for moderation
The Govt. of Nepal’s this decision is very good! We should not keen our mind into Religion. What is the real meaning of Loktantra? People can do whatever they like, isn’t it? Presently Nepal’s condition is very bad. So firstly we should make peace in Nepal then after talk about such matters…
Nepal Govt.~!!! Excellent!!!
Unfortunately the meaning of loktantra has been translated as “people can do whatever they like”. And believe me they are doing whatever they like.
“Alleging that Gyanendra has anything to do with the Hindu agenda is like saying the King of Thailand is synonomous with the Buddhist agendas.”
The difference is that the King of Thailand is in no danger of losing his job and needs no agenda. The people of Thailand want their king.
Long Live Hindu Republic of Nepal
I swear, in the name of Lord Shiva, You just tell me where the writer of this article lives and I will burn him to death. I want peace in this country but not all cost and definitely not at a cost of our religion.
Extremist people like Hindu is an clear example why we don’t have peace in our country. He would rather live under dictatorship than to be in democratic country.
He will choose dictatorship to religion if majority of hindus think like him then why would we need revolution. Why those people killed? for nothing
Government treats religious feeling as joke. We hindu never attacked other religion. That does not mean we are going to sit quite and look meekly at whatever is done against our religion.
In 1960 there were only 50 christians in nepal… now they are 5 Lakhs… almost 2% of population… may be girija has also got a cycle and converted seceretely.
(PS. I have doubt that wagle ji has also accepted cycle and umbrella from missionaries… guys what you think?)
The HOR proclamation is assault on hindu majority. They should have properly initiated debate and then gone for the declaration or should have deffered it to CA…
Gyane had declared nepal democratic… he had declared support for multi-party democracy… but we have seen what he actually did… So declaring nepal secular does not change anything… it only hurts the feelings of majority of only hindu country in world…
Hindus have never attacked any other religion… we dont want to discriminate others as well. We are for secularism in practice and we have been followin secularism since ages… even before the westerners discovered idea of secularism. But we can not accept that someone comes and removes hindu nation tag from our country without any consultation…
Jai pashupatinath.
for me religion is a feeling and a strong trust and religion does not lie in the country name but in the people’s sentiments,
no one had ever asked for secular state during the revolution except maoists ?
what the people had asked for is still to be given………
why more priority is given to maoists than the people’s?
due to fear of maoists i guess so
i believe that the non-hindus have a neglected status in our country but i do not believe that it is only because nepal is a hindu state.
one thing i want to tell all the non-hindu cousins is that ,nepal is the only hindu kingdom in the world. and why u trying to make it christian kingdom, muslim state etc. buddhism is a equally respect other half of hinduism………….
who is this minority group daal bhudey… may be christian
coz. i have never seen a buddhist firing against hindu and muslim do not have that guts in out country
this daal bhudey surely must be a money dragged christian, bible blashing here
i have never seen practice of secularism through out the world even the world’s richest america has got the most nos. of missionaries and it spends a lot to change the religion of poor people in country like ours.
really if the violence in the name of religion splits in our country, not only pro-hindus fundamantalists but all the hindu people will be mentally forced in the warzone of religion.
daal bhudey u have such a aggression for urs ethics,
if so,why should we fear even being a majority
you will be crushed if u do not respect others.
If WUB belives in pure democraty then it should have advocated to leave whether Nepal should or should not be secular state for the people to decide via referendom.
How could on earth this claim of overdue parliement’s proclamation represents people’s mandate? was this mention in their election pledge copy or do the government has got statistics to say that this many million people chave complaint about it so we should go for seculor state.
If people chooses via referendom then I would not have any problem but if our leaders makes decision that effects our lives without consulting us on such a delecate issue then, I am sorry but they should be punished & their decision should be challanged in the court of Law & I am sure someone will lodge a complaint at the supreme court soon requesting to reverse parliement’s irresponsible action.
If people should demand for referendom on such issues.
hindus doesn’t want dictatorship. remember the history ,the shah kings are themselves muslims (kulmandan khan changed him to shah)
There is no relation between the hindus and dictator ship. Rather i could relate other relations with dictatorship, eg,muslims, G.W Bush in christianity.
throw the king who is dictator
but don’t speak against the religion
because i am from the same seed which has got to grow chance in this hindu nation
long live democratic republic of Nepal
I am janajati, but have pride of hindu
roshan is correct,
without actually knowing what is in the people’s mind one cannot change the system in hunch.
there should be election
UWB,
Don’t be puppet of Maoist terrorists.
Hinduism is our pride.
thanks Ram thapa magar, not for the religion u have choosed
not for the pride u have shown for
but for ur greatness to make me feel
that i was really born in the land of buddha.
WAR & CHAOS is exactly what they wanted when they decided to make this country “secular”.
Not that it never was – there was freedom to practice any religion and all religions existed side by side in harmony. Now in the name of “secular” tolerance we have WAR, WAR, WAR !!! Stupid people have started fighting over “isms” just like they wanted. Wake up !!!
Yeah,,,I also strongly agreed to Basanta and others. Hinduism is our pride. How come Girija alone could make this decision to change our Hinduism identity.Let the people decide this after all we are living in a democratic country,arent we???
Didn’t you hear secularism was brought on due to threat of Tyranny by the majority. This is purely a preemptive strike by Koirala. By the way his first name is Girija (church), Oh! Ram.
He acted as proxy for Prachanda- didn’t give a hoot that more than 80% are Hindu. Welcome to democracy in Nepal.
Do not count on us to remain silent, even from good old U.S. of A. Storm is brewing.
” The nation need a Change” So do we. Let us not fight over the issue that will dehumanised one another respect and status. Now is the high time that we nepali should be motivated not by ‘feelings’ but by love in action.
DAAL BHUDEY AND BETTER NEPAL should not fight, Ladai ley desh thakeesakyo..Let us come together to build one another.
daal bhudey ji, I will take you word. Why dont you try and come to Pashupatinath at 8am and you will find US. You will find all the Nepali who wants back our years of culture. 205 people cannot turn tables. They buggers cannot decide what WE want. You must be a christian fedding on $$ supplied by your Christian counterparts. You are a traitor and have sold your soul to these buggers. You have sold our culture, our history and our religion. You might be good with pretty words. Or you might just be Mr. Wagle’s son, or a Maoist or one of the fucking politicians. I don’t give a dam. When it comes to my culture, my religion, I will fucking shove the $$ up your ass. Why don’t you put some of it into your mouth as well or you will be destroyed. Well Dall bhudey, tomorrow is your test of guts. Be There! Om!
Man what a waste of time! Wheather Nepal is a Hindu country or not what difference does it make? For those of you fighting for a Hindu Kingdom and being suspicious of Christian/Islamic missionaries, tell me even when Nepal was a Hindu Kingdom how did it stop these missionaries? Basically tell me what differences you expect in a Secular Nepal?
To the people supporting a secular Nepal – please enlighten me why things are going to be different for you. Were you not allowed to practice your religion freely before? Were you not allowed to convert to another religion before? Were you discriminated for government jobs? Tell me I am interested to know.
Personally I would like to see Nepal become a Hindu Republic but that is for the CA to decied. So until then I suggest take a chill pill and worry about more important issues…
Oh and Daal Bhudey … calling someone for a fight over a blog – really classy!
Also I wanted to add…
I cannot speak of the actions of these fundamentalists valdalizing property but I cannot help but sympathize with them for burning Kantipur newspapers …
thanks bhudai pandit for telling classy ( though i actually don’t have any clue, what u meant by that )however we are both bhudey, so i will take it from there.
as for hindu , OK, tomorrow i will come to pashupatinath 8 AM. I will be wearing white shirt and blue jeans with a bag over my shoulder, i have moustache and short hair, i stand 5 feet 11 inch … tell me ur HULIYA. i am very eager to settle u down . everybody in UWB will see what happened to the two of us.
one advocating hindu fundamentalism / hegemony
and the other ( me ) advocating secularism.
ameet….. i am not christian, not an islam , not a buddhist…… but an oppressed , sidelined, marginalised , a prisoner of conscience …
hami ahile samanata ko ladai ladeka hau,
desh ko akha ma sabai nepali haru samaan hos , bhanne hamro ( mero ) chahana ho. rajya le kasailai kakha kasailai pakha , timro dharma wa je sukai hos , tyo arko nepali ( jastai mero ) bhanda ramro ho , bhanera PUNG NA PUCHAR KO KURA rakhna hudaina , bhanne hamro manyata ho…
sabai lai chetana bhaya…..
Let us save nepal; let us voice for a HINDU REPUBLIC OF NEPAL.
Who are Hindu Fundamentalists??????
They are just the ones who are trying to save their ten thousand year old religion. Everyone has a right to protect one’s culture.
Who are Muslim fundamentalists? Those who blow themselves up in order to force others to covert. There is no god but Allah and Muhammed is the last messenger. Any deviation from this truth is DEATH ON THE SPOT.
Who are Christian fundamentalists? Those who bribe people to give up their religion and convert to Christianity. In Christianity and Islam both, (which kill each other for 0000000000.000000001% difference between them) worshipping idols, worshipping female godddesses is EVIL. They hate diversity of thought and spiritual practice. So, Hindus and Buddhists have been the targets of conversion. They want to convert the whole EARTH. But there won’t be peace even after that. Then they are yet to convetrt each other; they will clash between themselves, and this goes on.
It is just b***** s*****.
Why don’t they leave Nepal alone?????????
Our leaders have been bribed with oil money, quota for Nepali youths to work in the middle east. And the dollars from the donor agencies who are there to convert.
Nepali people are LIBERAL, so liberal as to submit themselves to other religions and destroy their own heritage.
The worst the Hindu fundamentalists would do is to RESIST CONVERSIONS, try to save themselves and their own identity. What is wrong with that?
A Hindu extremist is like a liberal Muslim or a Christian, can you imagine what a Muslim extremist would be like?
There is absolutely no FREEDOM IN ANY RELIGION OTHER THAN HINDUISM and Buddhism. In Islam, they will chop off your tongue for mispronouncing the name of Allah. They beat you with lashes for not bowing properly in the mosque.
And now, these religions are going to RULE NEPAL. And Nepali people will enjoy their secualr freedom.
With this secularism, the long protected religious harmony will be GONE. Our brave Nepali will fight either in the name of ALLAH OR JESUS CHRIST.
Let us save nepal; let us voice for a HINDU REPUBLIC OF NEPAL.
UWB: The text of this comment has been deleted because the writer has misused other blog commentator’s name.
Get another name you idiot. The least you can do is be original in selecting your blog name.
i dont know why loktantric govt dont want to see Nepal as a peaceful Hindu country. not a single person demanded secularism during the jana andolan part II. Nepal is a Hindu country. even Gurkha king pithvi narayan has praised Nepal Valley as a “Ashali Hindustan” meaning a true Hindu nation. Hindu religion has nothing to do with Gyane Shaha. its never been part of Shaha. they adapted it to established themselve to this country. later they exploited this great religion to oppress the people.
SPA should not have called this nation a secular coutry, i suspect they did it under barbaric maoists threat.
For such an emotive issue, a truly democratic and elected government would have put this to referendum. Difficult, considering how most of the country is not enfranchised.
All you who propogate Nepal to be declared a Hindu nation are a bunch of insecure losers. By declaring Nepal a Hindu nation, you will marginalise 30-40% of the population. This could lead to trouble later. All people/religions have taken part in this revolution. And now that the issue of secularism has come out of the bag, it will only lead to chaos if denied now.
But, why are you Hindus crying about it? By declaring Nepal secular, will Hindus be treated unfairly?? If the concept of secularism bothers you, it means that you do not believe in the concept of equality and reflects your insecurity.
And one more thing … It is not that Hinduism in not liberal. It is infact one of the most liberal religions in the world. Nobody has problems with hinduism. But you all need to realise that in the name of this religion, there are elements who exploit it to promote hegemony and anarchism. We’ve all seen it – Brahmins/Sudras, untouchability and all that jazz which promote regression in a society. Its 21st century and to highlight one religion is to diminish others.