Just imagine guys, a city bred nineteen year old for whom a fight meant a brawl at the disco or at the bar, was leading a contingent of young soldiers in the land of the Maoists, ready to fight for his and his men’s lives.
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By Nepali Chhoro
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I am an army officer and have been a regular visitor to UWB for some time now. And I see that this place, like so many others in today’s Nepal, is filled with discussion regarding the RNA. There have been numerous instances when I have felt the urge to put forward my comments, especially to articles or comments that tend to make some wild speculation regarding the army, but I’ve always managed to refrain myself from doing so. But this time around my heartfelt desire to share my story with you guys has got the better of me. And so here I present my story. I hope this will be able to clear of lot of misconceptions that people tend to have about the army.
I was born in a middle class Brahmin family which wasn’t even remotely associated with the military (you would associate that with a typical Bahun family, I guess). But the neighbourhood I grew up in, and the subsequent schooling I got, instilled in me a deep desire to be an army officer some day. And immediately after I had completed my Intermediate level studies, I found myself training to be one. When I joined my cadet course, the army was yet to be involved in this war and there was no sign of that happening any time soon, and so all I was looking forward to was a quiet and a respectful life in an army uniform. But not long after, following the Maoists attack on Dang, RNA was dragged into the battlefield. Had this incident happened, only a couple of months earlier, I wouldn’t even have joined the army, for my parents wouldn’t have allowed me to. But as fate would have it, we went to war and the rest, as they say, is history. The army in those days was woefully sort of young officers in the field and because of that our training days at Kharipati were reduced substantially. And before I could even realize what had happened, I found myself leading a small contingent of ‘just-out-of-the-school’ boys in the mid west of the country, right in the Maoists heartland.
From the day I had put on my RNA dress, I was always waiting for the inevitable, an encounter with the Maoists, that is. And if I thought I had to wait long for that, I was very wrong indeed. In fact, it was only a week after I had landed at that place that I was sent on an operation, and now looking back at that day, I can safely say that was the moment that changed my life, forever. I was leading my boys; well admittedly there were two old pros too, old enough to be my father, both of them. But it was me who was in control. Just imagine guys, a city bred nineteen year old for whom a fight meant a brawl at the disco or at the bar, was leading a contingent of young soldiers in the land of the Maoists, ready to fight for his and his men’s lives.
My platoon was scaling a rather big and steep hill, following a foot trail that must have been there for ages. I was in the middle of the patrol, joyfully chatting with my men. Our group was led by two scouts, some 15-20 meters ahead of us. It was a sunny day, the sort of day when there is not a single piece of cloud in the sky. The surroundings were very quiet indeed. The only sound you could hear for miles was that of river Rapti flowing right below us. We were moving right on schedule and according to our plan. There is a saying in the army which says if your operation goes on very smoothly indeed, be very afraid, for that means you’ve walked right into an enemy ambush. I must admit now, I had thought of this very saying then, but preoccupied with so many ideas, I didn’t for a moment give a serious thought towards it.
Now I desperately wish I had done that. For it happened. Out of nowhere there were sounds of sudden bursts of gunfire followed by shrieks of pain. We had walked right into an ambush. Both my scouts had fallen. And before I could think of anything, a heavy hand pushed me right down to earth. With my M-16 clutched in the right hand, the left hand holding my helmet and my face down into the soil, I lay flat on the ground for what seemed an eternity. There were sounds of gunfire and bombs exploding everywhere and I was lost, hopelessly out of what you could call, my league. My men were fighting back bravely and I, their leader, was trembling with fear. Some sounds, which seemed very strange to me then, were regularly bumbling out of my walkie-talkie and yet all I could do was to lay there motionless. But slowly I regained my composure. It wasn’t courage, rather it was the fear of losing the respect of my men that brought me out of that moment of unconsciousness of sorts, I guess. Sluggishly I looked around me, the old fatherly ‘Subdar saab’ was right beside me covering me with his fire and commanding my men. He looked at me and smiled as if to say, “Go on sir, go on and take command. These men are yours.” If I was waiting for a moment of inspiration, then that was it. Soon it was my voice that started to ring around, my M-16 started firing and though we were easily outnumbered by them, the Maoists, within the next hour and half we had chased them away, but not before the occurrence of an incident that would make me a true soldier.
During that firefight, I killed a real person for the first time in my life. She, yup the person was a girl, was the commander of her men. A single shot fired from my rifle had killed the young lass. After everything was over, I went over to her dead body. The bullet had gone right through her head, splitting it into two halves. Her dead body lay there flat facing the sky. Believe me, it was the most horrendous of scenes one can ever imagine of. A near headless torso lying before you with blood splattered everywhere can scare the wits out of anybody. And the knowledge it’s you who’ve done that, doesn’t help you either. It was a scene right out of a Hollywood war movie. For the next seven days, I couldn’t eat or drink anything. I would see her dead body everywhere I looked at. I used to be a person who couldn’t even watch a goat being sacrificed, let alone a person being killed. And that incident made me unable to sleep, unable to think. I thought then, that was it, I couldn’t ever make it as an army officer, I was ready to quit. But as I had done earlier, during my first real gun battle, I recomposed myself again. Though it took a full week, I finally did manage to calm myself down.
And yet I was deeply worried. A feeling of guilt was eating me from the inside. But this time, it was not because of the person I had killed, but rather it was because of people I had allowed to be killed. I had lost three of my men during that battle. And it was me, only me who was responsible for that. A little bit of thinking could have saved each of those three, but my incompetence had allowed them to die. It was a terrible crime to commit, especially for an army commander. Because we had managed to kill a lot of Maoists (many were gravely injured and must have died later), everyone had forgotten my mistake, but I hadn’t. When you’re training as an army officer, your trainers will always make one thing clear to you, “Your actions and your decisions will not only affect you, but all your men”, they would say. “Whenever you make any decision, think of the men who will be following you.” And surely enough, I had let down my trainers and my men. It was then I decided not to ever look at a bigger picture of things. I would do what I would be asked to do, and make sure that my men and I myself would survive doing just that. My duty and my men would be my first concern from that point onwards.
Five years have since passed. I am a proud army captain today. Quite a few medals glitter my tunic and that is probably because I have killed a large number of people. I’ve killed so many people that I have lost count of them (I had made a promise to keep a count of all the people I had killed). I was a sort of person who couldn’t even hurt a fly just a few years back, now I’m a killing machine. And this I say without the slightest hint of guilt or sorrow. I am proud to have completed my duties, saved the lives of lot of my men, kept myself alive and killed the people I have fought against. Admittedly few of the men I’ve killed were killed in what you would call a cowardly way (yes I have killed a lot of captured and unarmed people too) but that was essential to save the lives of many around me. This was not an all-out battle we were fighting guys. We were fighting against guerillas from among our own people.
You just wouldn’t know when a person would spring out from among a friendly crowd you would be talking to and kill you, you just wouldn’t know in which corner of the road you’re traveling an ambush awaits you. When you’re fighting a force that bases itself on cowardly attacks, there is no action that can be called cowardly. The truth is plain and simple, if you don’t kill them, they’ll kill you. And strange as it may sound, this is the principle of all the RNA men. We don’t care if we’re under the King or the parliament, all we care is staying alive. In fact we and in fact the nation itself are lucky that we’re not driven by any ideology or doctrines of any sort. This means we will always be ready to be under any government that rules this country, but most of us have our reservations regarding the Maoists.
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yes I have killed a lot of captured and unarmed people too
It would be good if he could explain that, kinda raised a lot of questions. Other than that, I can say he was just doing his duty. A young man looking for a better life at army suddenly in a battlefield killing his own countrymen, I have sympathy for him. What can I say more………..
Dear Nepali Chhoro,
Your article has broght tears to my eyes man. I can identify a lot of guys like you, whom I know serve in the army and whose lives have changed drastically since this bullshit of war began. They were all young men who loved their care free life but now somehow they’ve become different people.
Guys, truth is bitter, there is no doubt about that. Our country is just emerging out from a war and horrors of the last ten years will haunt us for the rest of our lives. There are many incidents such as this one that we are yet to hear. Be ready guys, be ready and make sure you have a heart strong enough handle such events.
glade, but it raises a whole lot of questions about the how the RNA is run. He says that when the Maoists attacked the RNA Dang HQ they were totally unprepared to counter the Maoists! Hundreds of police and APF had already being killed by then, the insurgency had already been raging for a good number of years…and the RNA were totally unprepared in tackling the Maoists? RNA is truly a fools army.
Could you verify his story first? Or do you guys just want a sensation?
Otherwise it is worthless reading. I could make up a story too.
“Otherwise it is worthless reading. I could make up a story too”
…..or copy it from some war account and change it here and there.
Would it be that hard to find people in the militery and iterview them? Rather than post a could be a fictional account as non-fiction?
Reminds me of that Blair guy sitting in his NY apartment and writing field stories about Middle East as if he was there writing for NY times. Who cares about reputation here when anarchy is looming right?? I wonder whats for tomorrow after yesterdays Dewba.
Till Dang barracks were not attacked I thought that RNA can finsh Maoists within 3 motnhs.This was what Prajwalla told the then PM Girija.He asked emergency to be declared. That was wrong, because any given country, army has the regular duty to fight against insurgency. Actually it was not Prajwalla but King was asking that.But in nine months of emergency also could not “finish” it. They did not have any proper plan in the military sense of the term and the rest is history.
I also think that army was to blame for this expansion of Maoists. Army can say that they did not get the order from the proper authority. That is all bullshits. Because, in Nepal, as per the regulations, no body can keep the guns without license. So army , police or secutrity officials never gave attention, in the initial stage, to a armed gang roaming around in the village or in the forest. Their intelligence was Zero. Now also it is zero.And the governments, from let us say from 1999, were busy taking commission money from hiring helicopters and other services to be deployed to quash the Maoists. They were not serious about solving the problem.Thus the Maoists took the form of what it is today. King thought that if Maoists become huge, he can take the power saying that leaders were incompetent to deal with. NC was thinking that they were minting money through Govind Raj as Home Minster. UML was happy when NC cadres were killed. They even said Maoists are our Mitra Shakti. When their own cadres were killed, they opened their eyes lately.
So the purpose of recounting the whole story is that the people who enjoyed power from 1996 to now are all bastards and they did not care for the benefit of the people and the country.
LET US SEE THEM IN THEIR NEW AVATARS, WHAT THEY WILL DO THIS TIME.
kirat, how can you say that the RNA is a fools army? The RNA had no intention of involving itself in this maoist war. The army at Dang was taken by surprise. Just like the US army during world war two. the US was not involved in the great war until the japanese attacked pearl harbor by surprise. Now will you say that the US army is a army of fools too?
how can you say that? un-freaking believable.
Laters you genius:
You think army officers are just going to talk to Wagle at this sensitive time? If you don’t think its that hard why don’t you interview someone and post it here?
I sympathize with lower ranking officers and soilders. However, I have no sympathy for the top brass…
How would the army be prepared? The RNA was a playground for Rana/Shah aristocracy and they probably never even dreamed of actually fighting.
me,
Before army was attacked by maoists, the war was going in our country for years. Hundreds of people, police, and armed police had died. And RNA is surprised to be attacked? What is RNA if it is not a fool’s army for not being prepared given the circumstances.
You cannot compare US army in World War II to RNA in this situation. They are like comparing apples and oranges.
me, what you just posted there was un-freakably thick! Do you realise what an idiot you are?
“The RNA had no intention of involving itself in this maoist war. The army at Dang was taken by surprise. Just like the US army during world war two.”
I guess you probably think Dang is a place in Hawaii and the Maoists are really Japanese. You comment there was so stupid it actually made me laugh out loud! I can’t believe that you can actually write properly.
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Hi Mr Nepali Choro,
I don’t have any comment on what you did, I think I can understand at my best even without myself putting foots in your shoes ;-). And I am firmly on your side that you peoples should never be driven by any ideology or doctrines of any sort. But you should know that you are not a normal person now. You have no sympathy over a person’s life neither you have any of your own ideology, so what you should understand is you are missing your social mindset you are just like pet, that barks at aliens that r not of your group, you should not mind the political mindsets that may hurt you at future if you keep any reservations over Maoists. May I too not have belief toward communism. But in contrast to you I have full sense living at a society that may Maoists be coming thought the wrong way but they are moving toward a right and justifiable destination. If every thing goes as predicted in 12 understanding then no one can have reservation that they have brought a change in country that will last forever till Nepal will be here. And either you care or not Nepalese Army that you fought for as being RNA(that you claim proudly) is a dark scar in the history of Nepalese Army.
At summary your enemy has finally won the war, they are making one of the brightest part of Nepalese history and you are making a darkest part of Nepalese history. Like the history one Prithvi Narayan Shah’s Army made at Kirtipur, or did by no being able to unite a larger Nepal, remember the larger Nepal that could be without war by gaining the heart of people.
Take the note that after a year or two RNA will be remembered as family army that had the bloodest record of killing 13000 Nepalese people justifying a Autocratic/Antipeople Monarch. Histry will register your place as damm goondas of royal family fighting against tax payer/Nepalese citizens/your own people/or whatever.
What I mean is you shouldn’t now have any reservations toward Maoists either.
I totally have sympathy to the RNA.
What maoists have is a element of surprise. RNA is right if you let them go they will again come back and try to kill you so its better to kill them first.
I would do the same thing if i was in the army its just about survival of the fittest.
And maoists are also the same many of them are kids who were handed a gun and its just like movie to them. Maoists leaders are exploiting the kids. They seems to be very good in brain washing.
Lots of innocent people have died in both sides. I just havent seen top level maoists killed in battle.
Whoever dies, its is a death and its deplorable.
But wait a second, werent maoists killing unarmed policemen before army went to battle?
The officer is right in that lower level security personnel and maoists were being killed.
BUT,
NO MATTER WHAT PHILOSOPHY, THERE IS NO BIGGER CRIME THAN KILLING ANOTHER HUMAN.
Shame on Maoists! Shame on RNA! Shame Lord Gyanendra! Shame on politicians! Shame on free media, which kept the eyes closed when ordinary people were being killed in the course of last 10 years.Shame you savant kathmanduites, who ignored this killing. Prachanda should be proud for being the cause of 13 000 deaths – 3 generations from now, history will judge and warring parties will have one adjective – CRIMINALS, COMMITING CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY
“Laters you genius:
You think army officers are just going to talk to Wagle at this sensitive time?”
Bhundai No, you’r the genious, it’s not the question of sensitivity, you mean to say you can go on and paste any story and call it “well we’ll call and try to veryfy if it is real”, just because it happens to tell the real account of what you want to hear?..just because it’s okey, cause its a sensitive time? Could’nt you just as well talk to your lower lower ranking officer and post the story as “neplai chora’s”, so that the story rings true as I read it?, if not I would rather not post the story and let it stay as unaccountable tittle-tattle from the battle in the forum.
Bhunda, it’s not the question of sensitivity, but of insensitivity to proper jornalism, esp. when you have become an internationally known one who has a responsibility to bring about fairness in thia as you put it, “sensitive Times”.
..well, my other post is in moderation, the genious in me has been moderated I guess.
Sorry, Bhunda=Bhudai
Sympathetic towards RNA ? a Big NO
Sympathetic towards people like Nepali Chhoro ? A very different issue.
Right now it doesn’t matter who actually declared war. Whether it was Mao communist or RNA, it doesn’t make any difference now. Whether RNA was only on defensive state and counter attacking Maoists, whether they were going after mao communists deep in jungles, clearly they failed in every account. The question is who to blame ? Should we praise Maoists for their excellent fighting skills or feel sorry for RNA for the lack of clear strategy.
I don’t care if this Nepali chhora is real or not. I have heard the very similar stories from couple of my friends who actually are in army. The fear, the rush of adrenaline during the battle, the remorse feeling of guilt after the killings, watching your friends dying, these are more than enough to change anyone. You shouldn’t blame these people, blame the so called generals, blame the beurocracy in RNA, blame the top brass who actually consider RNA as their personal property.
The time will tell if there’s any link between the Royals and the maoists, but a lot of people have died in this battle for nothing and the people who’re responsible for this must pay. No matter it is King or Prachanda, Girija or makune, nobody should forget what these people have done. BUT spare people like nepali chhoro when we are happy to forgive Maoists fighters. It doesn’t make any sense.
Laters:
Firstly this is a personal blog. If you come here for objective indepth news analysis you will have a little suprise on the other end.
Objective indepth? who says I am looking for that?, I have many other sources for that, you make me laugh you ask me that question. It’s a tiny weenie weird when Mr. Dineh Wagl and co., who have made their names in the name of democracy (or the lack of , no pun) and travelled far and wide as THE BLOGGERS giving speetches in Ivy league schools in affiliation to this blog, go on and well, again, post heresay (two days in a row my friend, or am I a genious to be recalling yesterdays Dewba post?)for their what looks like ( and I am not the only one thinking this) a self interest.
Kirat,
You’ve said “The RNA was a playground for Rana/Shah aristocracy”
There are two things I completely disagree with you here. Firstly, you seem to imply that the army is a playground for all Ranas and Shahs, you seem to say that all Ranas and Shahs earn money through the army. I’d have you know that there are Ranas and Shahs who have no relation to the army whatsoever and there are Ranas and Shahs who do not agree with the concept of the army altogether.
Second, you imply that all Ranas and Shahs are aristocrats. Have you talked to any Ranas or Shahs who work hard day to day to make a living of their own, who have no ancestral property or wealth remaining for them to enjoy? You probably have a vague idiotic idea that all Ranas and Shahs are rich and aristocratic and they all look down on other people right? Well people like you are the ones who spread these idiotic ideas and try to instill fear in the hardworking people who you wrongly call ‘aristocrats’. It’s probably people like you that want to get rid of these two families altogether because you think they are all aristocrats and rich people living of the state one way or other.
This is a very sensitive matter, I hope you take care in not using the words ‘aristocrats’ and ‘Ranas/Shahs’ together again.
I totally agree with Glade. I sympathize with Nepali Choro but I have no sympanty for RNA as an institution and the generals.
One thing that Nepali Choro said that really touched me was that RNA teaches, “Your actions and your decisions will not only affect you, but all your men.” It is laudable. I think one of the reasons we are in this dismal state is because we have failed to consider the consequences of our actions to other people. This applies not just to the King, leaders, businessmen, Govt officials but also to everyone else in our daily lives.
It is great that RNA men have this great attitude to own up the responsibilities in duty to their colleagues. But the question I have is why don’t they apply this in Nepali society. Time and time again, we hear about abuses by RNA such as drunken RNA beating up locals, people being disappeared. RNA men have guns. Locals do not have guns. So RNA have responsibilities towards weaker locals, who they are supposed to protect. Is this something that RNA does not teach their cadets?
Rana Boy:
It was actually I who said that the RNA is a playground for the Rana Shan aristocracy.
I apologize to you if you are not an aristocratic or A class Rana and you have been mushed into that category.
However, I will not take the back my position that the RNA is indeed a playground for the Rana Shah aristocracy. Buddy maybe you would like to look at the RNA’s roster and tell me which surnames you see on the top posts. Perhaps you would like to talk to other army officers and ask them if they are treated equally for promotions, UN missions etc. even though they have certain surnames!
I realize that people make over genralizations since there are, like you put it, Ranas who work day to day. However, there are also many Ranas (the vast majority I would contend) who have a ton of anscestral property – all of which were acquired not by hard work and toil!
Rana,
I stand by my comment that the RNA is a playground for the Thakuri elite. Ofcourse I agree that there are Rana/Shahs who have nothing to do with the army. But that doesn’t change anything-because if you look at the history of the RNA till the present day you would be a fool to argue that it has not been a monopoly of the Thakuris. Not all Thakuris mind, but a large well knit community of them.
Your second point is a little puzzling to me as I do not know where I implied that all Rana/Shahs are ‘aristocrats’. For a proud Kirat like me that’s bull. For me all are equal. It is the majority of Rana/Shahs who consider themselves ‘aristocrats’ with their elitist Durbari language and their ‘bharyang muni’ and ‘bharyang mathi’ ideas. You go by the name of Rana but do you know how the Ranas treated the rest of the Nepali people only 40/50 years ago?
Idiots like you can’t face the truth. There are a lot of good Thakuris in Nepal and I count some of them as my friends. But it’s ones like you, Rana, that give your own people a bad name-people who can’t accept the truth and blunder along not knowing what damage they are doing to themselves and others.
By the way one of the best servants that our family ever had was a Shahi lad-hardworking and loyal but from a dirt poor family in the far-west of this country. So I am really puzzled by your comment that I implied Rana/Shahs are ‘aristocrats’!
UWB you are censoring my comments and I know why ?
Yes you are all correct who said RNA is the property of Rana/ Shah. Because, you count the cheifs: One Basnet and two Thapas thats all. All Ranas and Shahs. Once Girrija asked one LIMBU colonel why there is no LMG (Limbu, Magar,Gurung) a Chief ? Then he was in an awkward position. But replied that Ranas/ Shaha have in their blood to be Chief which we do not posses even how smart we are.
Please don’t post such article at this sensitive point of time even the story is true. Uner any human ground you don’t kill captured people. Captured people are kept in jails RNA boy. One fine day you might proudly say I killed many in peace keeping mission because if I had not they would have been killed me…is this the morale of the stroy boy? I am proud of being a brother of an army officer but the story priased for captured killing of our own brothers and sisters is totally disgusting. Lesson to you army boy…herhaps you are too young to learn is “mistakes dont equal to misake” you are paid by the state thats way you are called Nepali army the Maoist live on forced donations thats why they were called rebels or Terrorist untill the re-instated partiament removed the lebel. People like you who gave birth to thousands of Maosits . Because of Sera kilo 2, Romio and army operations the Maoist grew like mushroom. Beware from now onwards. Pls dont publish this kind of provocative article unless you people want to ruin the country even further.
Long live democratic and peaceful Nepal
Rana/Shahs/Bahuns seem to be the most hated communities post Janandolan II. They have been time and again accused of creating an anarchic society who have thrived by oppressing other communities. While this holds true to a very large extent (please do not be offended), I surely understand the fear they feel today from a possible Maoists retribution tomorrow.
I urge all countrymen to keep the past behind us and look towards a future of modern Nepalese society where everyone is considered equal. For this, Rana/Shah/Bahuns need to stop thinking that they deserve special treatment everywhere they go and need to wake up and smell the cofee of new reality. Simultaneously, rest of the communities need to forgive and forget the past. Basically, we all need to create a strong social fabric which does not exist today.
Questions to Mr. Nepali Choro:
1. How did an incompetent/incapable person like yourself become the commander of your platoon? I am sure that has lot to do with you being ‘Bahun’?
2. What was the ethnicity of your juniors in your group?
3. Do you have any brain to think that killing can’t solve the problem?
4. Don’t you think you are the one who went that far to the jungle to kill others? Should you not take responsibility for the dead? As long as Maoist did not come to your house the way you went to their place to kill them, your story is just a piece of crap, because you are the opressor there, you are the one who initiated the provocation.
5. I deplore the use of our national wealth to give salary to armies like yourself who don’t hesitate to kill its own people. You guys are paid do to protect the country from foreign invaders, not to kill the poeople of its country. Such misuse of army makes you guys no better than bandits.
expect more questions…..
Folks,
Saw the red cover over the statue at the Sing Durbar gate?!!!!!!
Should have been YELLOW (paat)!!!!
Raama Naama Satya Hai……
I can not agree more with Patriot.Our problem is who is a super race ? Rana, Shah, Koirala, Nepal, Acharya , Pandey, Basnet, Thapa etc. We do not talk more about Limbu, Yadav, Sutar, Dhimal, Pariyar, Sarki etc.
I am neither Maoist nor government. I am a citizen of Nepal, and as a citizen, I have the right to know the truth about how national wealth is being spent.
While I admire Nepali Choro’s assertion of being Bahadur who can do whatever is necessary to protect his group in a same way the banditis in India or other gangsters operate in the world; I am afraid that the meat-head dumb ass like Nepali Choro in the Army is not going to make our county safe and secure. If this army guy’s attitude reflects the sentiment of Nepal Army as a whole, it’s very pathetic situation. While armymen of other countries are trained in nationality, intelligence gathering, and hi-tech; it’s unfortunate the poor nepali folks are being trained as dogs whose job is to bite ‘others’ who they don’t like them, although, the ‘others’ could be someone like himself whose only choice was either fight the system of die as a dog.
Kirat: you cry baby
if you wanted to counter attack my opinion, why didn’t you do it in a better way instead of calling me idiot and stupid (like hellow did)? It just shows how immature you are. did you pee your pants when you laughed out loud when you read my comments?
by being rude, you do not change anyones view. and you may say that you are not here to change any views. but it just shows how immmature you are.
Reading the discussion, i have to say that kirat is trying to create a bad discussing atmosphere. All the name callings and shit.
i feel bad for the young lad. Even if it is untrue, what can one do if faced that situation?
guys, please lets just post comments. no name calling. ignore chidish acts. Promote healthy discussions.
all rana/thakuri ellite are idiots.
UWB: This is not the Kirat who has been posting comments on this site for quite some time. The email address is different. Please don’t use other’s name.
kirat, don’t show your immaturity.
Well that’s the exact same attitude that’s brought Nepal on the brink of disintegration. One group ever trying to dominate the other, and hopeing that trying all its best to keep it that way, whereas the other group ever feeling bitter about the domination. Let’s promote a healthy discussion here, no namecallings. Namecalling’s the stuff of children who can’t sit down and intellectually discuss matter and instead try to end it abruptly by calling the opponent names.
The best solution for the country is to scrap all identities such as ‘Jaat’ and ‘thar’. No Limbu, No Rai, No Magar, No Chhetri, No Thakuri, No Bahun, Just NEPALI. The whole ‘Chaar Jaat Chattis Varna’ concept should be scrapped. As long as there is an ethnic identity, there will always be a superior or inferior. Why slander each other on the base of something as stupid as a chance of birth.
I read the article with interest and could not help but laugh at the incompetency of so called RNA. This guy is a naive, he does not know much above his command. He does not care to know who controls him. This is really a disgusting things. He even does not care who he is killing his own brothers sisters and he is bragging on this. He should be handed over to war crime tribunal. YOU CAN NOT COMMIT CRIME BECAUSE THE NON_LAW_BINDINGS ARE COMMITING ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. Wagle Identify this guy, he needs to be handed over to Rayamajhi committee
Deuba,
This guy has tasted blood and he is already insane. He has lost all the senses that a human being possess. Why does not this guy was refer to the psychiatrist. It is a medical case.
He was just 19 at the time of his bloody war and he has grown out to be a monster. It gives me shiver even to think on those 14/15 years maoist PLA could do after a few years in battle ground. I think PLA is much restrained and well trained than RNA
RNA boy,
Are not you fighting a war against your own people? Do not you know this is the war beween King and People? Do not you feel ashamed that you are on the wrong side of the war? Do not you know that COAS spent millions for his daughters marriage and King spent billions for his trips while you were fighting in Jungle of Rolapa against the invisibale enemny that could be your father? Thukka, you are worse than animal bragging for killing innocent people! Animals do not kill for pleasure, you do, fat boy.
It is amazing to read comments here: outright condemnation, allegations of fabrication, mudslinging…Is this what we all know about? And, with our attitude, we expect the country to move forward? C’mon, I do not think that was not the purpose of pro-democracy movement…
I think by now all people have well understood that ‘corruption’ and ‘nepotism’ that people blame on democracy are in fact legacy of this feudal monarchy.
Diversity is the prime attribute of our nation.
‘ek vasha ek vesh’ ko stupid nara lai chodera we have to accept,glorify and promote our multicultural heritage.
Sweet Weed,
What do you expect from democracy? Pardon to those killers or some kind of reconcialiation with the feudal monrachy? Why not to condemn those who brag about killing people? Are you on high dope “WEED”, I can not beleive you, you are either the RNA boy (19 years lad!) or your are something, impossible
i’ve got total sympathy to the army boys. one should not blame a soldier for fighting a war. by being invloved in killing, a soldier is just doing his/her duty and doing it the way it is expected.
we should rather debate whether we need an army in Nepal? i see no point in having an army in our country. absolutely none. except that it gives employment to few.
Jeewan, How insesitive you are towards human being. If the RNA captain were in my country (Sweden), he would be brought to justice immediately. He can be traced easily. On the basis of the blog informtaion here, I am forwarding the blog to an MP of European Parliament. Thank you guys
To me, Rana & ae
me, your post #7 was the most illogical post I have ever seen in this blog. You want me to counter it logically? You don’t deserve it for that post. I hope next time you type something on this blog that you THINK about it first. Otherwise you will deserve the ridicule that you will get.
Rana, I am not trying to dominate anyone. But when people deny that the RNA is being dominated unfairly by the Thakuri’s who is a big fat liar? You want that the jaat of a person not be an issue? That’s great but that won’t happen by turning a blind eye to the present injustices in Nepal. It will only happen when we acccept that there is a problem and then try our best to solve it. Denying the fact that problems exist will never solve any problems-is that so difficult to understand?
ae-comment #34 was not mine. There is an impostor on this blog.
Kirat,
Do not make mistakes that Rana are Thakuri. They are simple Kunwar Chhetri. Now when Junge established marital relations of his son and daughters with the Shah family they equal themselves as Thakuri. i hope that JNTA KO CHHORO would be promoted on the basis of merit and anybody will become Chief.
This website is totally taken over by the Maoist party officials and sympathisers who live at their nice comfy apartment in the western world and provoke the uneducated mass to pick up guns, by cons or guns!!!! Disgusting.
Thanks Layman, when I say Thakuri I mean the Chettri/Rana/Shah grouping who are close to the Palace. Is this not more or less an acurate categorization. For example when they say Janjati-they mean Gurung, Rai, Limbu, Tamang, Magar, Sherpa etc
I think it is commendable to hear an account from an army officer for a change. Otherwise it is more of the same assumptions and presumptions and sensationalism that we thrive on.
We have a real problem in our hands where Nepalis are killing Nepalis. I don’t blame RNA men and women because as the officer correctly said, they will follow orders from anyone who is head of government to keep us secure. I have seen through the times no gratitude to our army personell without whome we would be in a complete state of anarchy or some sort of despotic dictatorship spiralling in to civil war.
The Maoists have created this war which is a beast. They have the opportunity to lay down their arms and have been welcomed in to mainstream politics. It is the right moment even for them to accept. If they insist on going on with their senseless war, then we can all point the finger of blame in one direction only – theirs.
When the officer states that ” We don’t care if we’re under the King or the parliament, all we care is staying alive” it reminds me of “Black Hawk Down”, a movie based on an actual event, there a special force ranger comments to a rookie – “When the first bullet flies past your helmet, politics goes out the window” – or something to that tone.
I thank the officer for his account. Obviously people will question authenticity, but it is difficult for officers to disclose their identity in such times, only people who have been there know. The rest of us should not even boast to light a candle to this guy.
Officer, you show us humility and strength in times of trouble, but also reality and not fairytale bullcrap. Your account of the first person you killed was very moving and all I can say is you have conducted yourself as a professional soldier but above all a human being, one cannot say the same for our leaders and so called revolutionary leaders who do not even lead from the front, but lead from cell phones from India. Che Guvera and Mohammad Shah Moktaum will piss on the likes of Prachanda and Baburam who dare call themselves revolutionary.