General Strike Day XV

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State has again turned ruthless. They even took away the bodies of dead protesters from Model Hospital, Bagbazaar. As I write this, half an hour black out is being successfully observed. The authorities have extended the curfew from 8 pm to 3 am. From 3 am there is two hour break.And, again it will be resumed. But, nothing has deterred the people so far. The agitaton has reached every nook and cranny of the country. There are reports of tremendous protests across the country.

Tinkune, 6:30 PM

As I write this, around one hundred youths are chanting anti-king slogans here. One young lady asked me to join the protest even after seeing my journo card. A while ago, I saw people preparing pulthas for black out-cum-torch rally which is slated for 8:30 pm today. This shows the zeal and enthusiasm of people. They have defied curfew and come to the streets in almost all corners of Kathmandu. These young people are dreaming of new Nepal. And, any compromise that doesn’t satisfy their demands will be redundant.

According to reporter Rajaram, three protesters are killed in Kalanki today. This is the first time protesters of ongoing movement have been killed in Kathmandu Valley.

Koteshor, 2:30PM

According to Kantipur reporter Balaram Baniya, around 30 thousand protesters defied curfew in Koteshor. They marched from Madhav Nepal’s house to Koteshor Chowk. They are chanting slogans. In Koteshor, people of all walks of life have participated in the peaceful rally. They already broke three police barriers and are now staging sit-in protest. In Satdobato, two prosteters are seriously injured while other 66 are among the injured. Kantipur reporter Ujir Magar is also injured.

Shantinagar Gate, 2:00pm

Protesters coming from Khari Ko Bot captured the main road for few minutes. They were chased away by security forces.

One lakh protesters are marching from Budhanilkantha to Chabahil.

Kalanki, 1:30 PM

When police opened fire at the peaceful protest in Kalanki, many people were injured. Reporter Rajaram told us that he is handling an injured person. He said there was blood all over his hand while he was speaking to us. Similarly, in Satdobato, clashes occured. Many people are injured. In this kind of scenario, the casualties will not be known immediately. But, what we can say is, people are participating in overwhelming numbers. And, they are ready to sacrifice for a better Nepal.

According to Nepal Magazine reporter Rajaram Gautam who is in Thankot now, around one lakh protesters have gathered in Thankot. They are heading towards Kalanki. They are stretched over three kilometer in the Highway. They gathered from Satungal, Matathirtha, Dahachowk, Balambu, Gurjudhara, Syuchatar villages. Policemen have blocked in Thankot some 5-7 thousand protesters coming from different parts of Dhading.

At 12 today, all the denizens of Kathmandu are requested to go to their rooftops and chant slogans for loktantra (full democracy). In the areas around Ring Road, people are marching to defy the curfew. The processions are taking place mainly in the suburban areas such as Bhaisepati, Satdobato, Chabahil, Kalanki, Gongabu, Kirtipur, Mandikhatar etc.

Hundreds of protesters are marching towards city. But, the core of the city is wearing a deserted look. In Baneshor, there’s a lull; few people are seen requesting security personnel to allow them to cross the road or run errands.

Meanwhile, Indian special envoy Karan Singh and Foreign Secretary Shyam Sharan are busy meeting political leaders. Today morning, they met Surya Bahadur Thapa and Pashupati Shamsher Rana. King is rumored to give speech calling the political parties for dialogue.

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160 thoughts on “General Strike Day XV”

  1. Dead toll on Kalanki is counted 8, says a Reporter of Annapurna Post, one of the national daily of Kathmandu. He said, more 12 from Kalanki are seriously injured and total 45 are hit by bullet.

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  2. m,

    thanks, but one of my subjects in university was political science so it was quite unnecessary. Sure the soviet union made leaps and strides initially under a communist system but ultimately those gains were wiped out by what was wrong in the same system. Same about Cuba-the gains they made have now been reversed. Sure they still produce a lot of doctors and scientists but thats not the only point is it?

    Cuba democratic? Give me a break.

    And please m there is a distinction between a socialist system and a communist system so don’t get confused. By the way most co-operatives and state run enterprises run in the communist sense have been total failures, ok? I am sorry for you as well m because you seem to be a romantic in love with a philosophy that has not takers in this world now.

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  3. Kirat,

    I don’t think it is accurate to say the gains were wiped out or reversed. The gains were slowed and stagnation ensued, as growth rates slowly declined in the 1970s. What brought the actual reversal of the gains was first the attempts at drastic reform in the 1980s and second the restoration of capitalism.

    If you want to see whether Cuba is democratic, try spending some time there. Suffice it to say you are not going to get an accurate picture from outside the country. Try living with ordinary Cubans and see what they say, not what CNN says.

    You may call me a romantic. I am not going to call you names. I do not believe I am a romantic, because I do not see any of these systems as having been unequivocal successes or failures. I think what you are doing is accepting one very distorted side of the story. I do not question your credentials and I am not attempting to lecture you. Just bear in mind that most of what is published on socialism is biased in one direction or another.

    A final point on socialism versus communism: In the west, people often refer to communism as being what existed in the USSR etc, and socialism as being more like social-democracy. Inside the USSR and every other one of these countries, the terminology is that socialism was the actually existing system, and communism was the eventual ideal goal of that system to produce. Hence the name ‘Communist party’–a party within a socialist country advocating for the building of communism. In Marxist theory the two are distinct stages and socialism is the process which may one day lead to communism (maybe 200 years from now or whatever). My terminology is not at all confused.

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  4. About Cuba…
    Fidel Castro is NOT a democrat, for sure ! And I do not support this autocrat either.
    But even though Cuba has been rejected by most rich countries, it is a fact -and not propaganda- that people there have definitely a much better way of life than every neighboring countries in the Carribeans.
    And the have one thing that the others don’t have : Dignity.
    Just think of Haïti !
    Cuba is not USA’s brothel.
    Their public health system is doing well, and each and every kid goes to school. They are not rich but nobody is starving.
    Cuba is not the champion of Human Rights, but just look at Guantanamo…

    And what about Chavez’s Venezuela, Lula in Brazil & so on ?

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  5. m,

    Cuba is a very example for you to keep on trumpeting. Why would son many people risk death to escape from Cuba on little rubber dingys if it was such a utopia? And no CNN did not need to tell me this ok?

    Besides you are now resorting to mere semantics. The degree of failure doesn’t really bother me-a failure is a failure-whether gains were wiped out, reversed or stagnated to the point ordinary people had to line for hours for a loaf of bread is not the point. The point is that the system failed to benefit the people.

    I am glad that you are aware of the difference between socialism and communism. Henceforth I hope you do not get confused again.

    Look buddy like every political philosopy socialism and communism have their good points-but if you take it as a whole you ultimately have a system that can’t deliver the goods. For me that is a total failure.

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  6. Cyp,

    You know it and I know it-almost every Cuban would love to be in the US.

    I’m not championing the US here mind. I just don’t want a socialist or communist state to be established here in my country. I don’t mind certain elements of socialism (you have too much of it in France) but only enough to be sustainable. We have to be pragmatic.

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  7. Kiratji,
    Many Cubans do dream of leaving their island… but a dream is a dream…
    It is indeed very difficult to explain to people living in poor countries that we, westerners living in the richest countries of this planet, have lots of poors too and that life is not easy at all.
    Cuba is a bad example, but it is significant.

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  8. I think we all should make a protest program of not using the Rupees with Gyanendra’s Photo.

    I request all the democratic lovers to stop using the rupees with gyanendras photo. After the establisment of Loktantra the money should be retured to NRB and get the appropriate amount in equevalent.

    So all are requested not to flow the money containing gyanendra’s photo.

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  9. Hey Cyp,

    But Cubans actually try, under very dangerous circumstances, by the boat loads. So many came that the US neo-cons have instituted a policy of actually turning them back. Can you understand the desperation of these people? I think the worst thing for them is that they are not free-not just politically but economically or culturally. They can practice what the state is ok with-but thats a very narrow area. Ofcourse the US embargo does not help.

    Like I said before there are elements of socialism that I absolutely adore (besides the Che t-shirt) but elements of it only.

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  10. News update: Police forcibly took dead bodies from hospital premisis who were shot dead at kalanki.

    Cruality has the same face. Compare mb’s news not allowing ppl to do rituals after they kill from past and now kg’s doing. Who suffers, fck we.

    Read mb’s press statement, we will take care of geneva’s human rights now onwards. Opportunistic ppl.

    We want a fair justic, bring them to court. everyone! prachanda and gayenendra, both could be executed.

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  11. Muji kuire. The long and short of what you are saying is that you love communism – a defeated system and idealogy the world over. Stuff it up your a*s and stop meddling in Nepali business.

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  12. when shooting occured in kalanki today, a white chopper was flying above the spot. Is this just a coincidence or somethig else! Mind it, it was a private chopper (white color) and today all flights were suspended by the airlines. Isnt that odd.

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  13. And for those who are afraid of communism –
    China is a communist country and please dont tell me that it is a “nation zero”.

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  14. Mr. kirat,
    u suggest us to be pragmatic. Well, then use ur pragmatism from Nepalese perspective. indeed, u’ve given a lot of facts/figures of the progress/regress of countries that have adopted particular system of government but man! come to the earth. Don’t just make opinions based on the past/present/future of other countries while dealing with the situation of our own. Well, these opinions of course can be taken as points to be considered but they are not governing factors for what type of government system is fit for us.
    Well, u must be aware of the socio-economic status of NEpal. Here, per-capita income is 350$ or so(well, i don’t know exact figure). Wait, i’ve used the word ‘socio-economic’ instead of economic before giving the data. Although economically the figure might imply that a Nepalese has a property worth 350$, analysing the social structure, we can say that more than 50% people have less than 100$. The main problem to any political unrest is not just poverty- but the expediting rate of inequality between rich and poor. Also, in the above figure the assets of King and his kith/kins are not included . IF it is to be included then the per capita index is sure to scale to a significant figure.
    Just imagine a while(just a hypothesis) that 10% people possess the property >20000$ and 90% possess

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  15. Well Mr. kirat,
    u suggest us to be pragmatic. Well, then use ur pragmatism from Nepalese perspective. indeed, u’ve given a lot of facts/figures of the progress/regress of countries that have adopted particular system of government but man! come to the earth. Don’t just make opinions based on the past/present/future of other countries while dealing with the situation of our own. Well, these opinions of course can be taken as points to be considered but they are not governing factors for what type of government system is fit for us.
    Well, u must be aware of the socio-economic status of NEpal. Here, per-capita income is 350$ or so(well, i don’t know exact figure). Wait, i’ve used the word ‘socio-economic’ instead of economic before giving the data. Although economically the figure might imply that a Nepalese has a property worth 350$, analysing the social structure, we can say that more than 50% people have less than 100$. The main problem to any political unrest is not just poverty- but the expediting rate of inequality between rich and poor. Also, in the above figure the assets of King and his kith/kins are not included . IF it is to be included then the per capita index is sure to scale to a significant figure.
    Just imagine a while(just a hypothesis) that 10% people possess the property >20000$ and 90% possess

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  16. Dear Sheshyan,

    If it was intended at me I do truly appreciate your delicate insult… It has been a long time for me not hearing it.

    I would just tell you that if Nepal is not my homeland, I have been living and working there for a long time in the 80’s, as a trekking guide. And that I fought a lot for improving porters and staff’s lives, struggling with travel agencies in Europe and even loosing my job for having done that.

    I undertook also the first Transhimalayan Traverse in 89/90 (From Srinagar to Ilam) along with Mukti Gurung, on a total equalitarian basis : same bags, no porter, local style, and 50/50 on the book that was published afterwards.

    Dr. Brian too was meddling into Nepal’s business. They deported him.

    Have a nice day and Salutations Distinguées to Mr. Kirat.

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  17. sorry for the damaged posts……

    and 90% possess less than 10$. In other case consider everyone posses $2000. Which one is better? although per capita will be the same.
    So, immidiate step needed is the equal distribution of property and then allowing the free economic policy afterwards. In other case, allowing the capitalists to amass enough riches first and then providing oppertunity for the underprivilaged ones will take a very long long time and will be another form of regression followed by depression.

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  18. hi hope,

    I’m back.
    I know our people are desperately poor. but communism/socialism is not the answer. i would go for a capitalist model with elements of socialism-such as free primary education (with regional wise university scholarships for the bright ones, free health care (a proper one)and if and when the country can afford it benefits (dole) for the unemployed and elderly. Most democracies in the West Europe and in Japan already have this. It does cost the state but it’s good. Nepal needs to follow a capitalist model because we need to trade with other countries to prosper. We have a lot of potential-hydropower, tourism, trade, tea, herbs, handicrafts etc and cheap hard working labour.

    If we have a stable, democratic country where the government encourages business and people are given the freedom to chose what they want to do I think we could be easily one of the richest countries in S. Asia (per capita income wise).

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  19. shaha king must be counting his final hours. people are ready make sacrific for democratic republic of nepal. i hope this time leaders do not compromise like they did in 1990.

    down with shaha king.
    down with rna.
    long live locatantra.

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  20. yo simrik..i am not someone who just shouts here okey….i go to aandolan…and i can feel the wishes and feelings of the masses….and how the hell can u accuse me of not going….and i am not set backed by the martrydom of our great brothers…..but here are some…shit and sooo much out of mind people who are saying this killing is done to maintain law and order..fcuk u all who say that….who the hell gave them the right to impose 25 hr curfew to stop peacefull demos huh….just read a news from kantipuronline…those butchers are now fearing the dead body so they are taking it away from the model hosptial…that is u’re fcuking law and order…….mare pachhhi pani tyo laas le gayera tera bau gyane ko durbar agadi naara lagayeko thiyo jaatha haru….ani ke bhutra ko law and order bhandai baschhas aja….kehi bhane kura napayera ke nachadio ra pagal jasto kura gardai baschhas…godd…..i just feel so out of my mind now…ajai law and order bhanchhaan………

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  21. I HEAR THAT KG IS MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO REINSTATE THE PARLIAMENT TOMORROW AND APPOINT SHER BAHADUR AS THE NEW PRIME MINISTER.

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  22. I have heard too many rumors. Everyone has a story …. lets just see what happens tomorrow.
    I doubt this King will give in this easily.

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  23. well…i dont think the parliament will be reinstated….people should fight till the monarchy is ended…i dont think there should be any compromise…well talking about today’s protests…i live in kalanki and i had never seen such huge no. of people in my whole life roaring and chating slogans against the king…well talking about that helicopter..it was not a coincidence that it was there.that chopper was used by army to have a look around the ring road area..and a high level army personnel was in that chopper who ordered to fire and then the indiscriminate firing occurred in kalanki. well i saw 3 people dead on spot. one guy was beaten till death by the people. it was really cruel. i heard one died on hospital. so there are total 4 dead..and more than hundreds were wounded ….it was the scene in kalanki

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  25. How pathetic, all your calling HM Gyanendra “murderer” and worse, how you gang-up on a voice of reason/caution (Seshyan).
    We had also “appetite” for communism, in 1945-1948. Then our fathers “got” what they wanted. It cost us freedom for more than 40 years! If we listedned more to escapees from GULAG and thier tales, we wouldn’t have to make this “detour”, with horrible conseq. for our country and people: we were the nation who executed a pregant woman in 1950 (Dr. Milada Horakova), who lost the best brains to west, who survived the mined border to W. Germany and Austria, who put 200,000 in re-education camps, who provided uran for Stalin’s first atom bomb!
    Brothers and Sisters in Nepal: Communism is not answer for your tribulations: in moment there is only one force between you and REAL, not perceived killers: the Royal Nepal Army. To call HM Gyanendra a killer, and remain silent about the Jungalees, is immoral and wrong.
    You have been so manipulated that you don’t even perceive the manipulation – that’s one trait I always despised with you people: The Great Nepali Sheep Syndrome!
    Few guys in Jawalakhel, tibetans actually, with 100+ years’ tradition, start making carpets. Suddenly every-one is spinning and weaving like mad, shipping sub-standard carpets with poisonous dyes. Result: Death of Carpet Industry.
    Pashmina: same story, the “BEDA-EFFECT” rules.
    Few years back, even rich, wellplaced, employed nepalis got new fashion – working abroad. Now we have bahuns washing toilets and backsides of old people in Germany.
    The latest outburst of “BEDA-MADNESS” is this: the King is the Enemy. Not the barbarous, murderous Maobadis, driving wooden stakes into legs of other communists, killing Chiluwal in Bagh Bajar. No, they are “fighting” for better tommorrows, they must be excused…
    I pray to Shiva for “my” Nepal, the gentle people, I, as a “sarnati” enjoyd in my 3 decades of visting, studying, loving Nepal!

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  26. After all this shedding of Nepalese blood – fomented by freaking republicans like many blggers here- all we are going to get is old wine in new bottle!

    Shere the corrupt man is going to be PM agin – guess whoo is having the last laugh here!

    No CA, no Republic – just SACHYAM SHERE from Karnali par Dadeldhur!

    Mao Baddy’s seems your mastashab Karan f*ucked you up big time, huh ? Seems Karat also left you all high and dry!

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  27. Good Night my fellow nepali sathiharu

    bandaina bihani mirmire tara jharera nagae
    bandaina yo desh dui char KAPUT (i.e. girija, prachande) marera nagae!

    Jai desh jai naresh!

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  28. Hey hope’s still alive

    I think you are totally wrong. Those bloody Baburam and Prachandra is hiding in India with their blessings. At the begining when they started so called their revolutionary act they were anti indians but now they are the shit that comes out of india.
    Those leaders are living in india freely. How come Girija, Bamdev etc went to Delhi and met them so easily and indian intelligence didn’t knew everything. If india wanted those maoists would have been captured long ago.
    Maoists have addressed many things but they have never said against unfair treaty between two countries.
    If they go against india then their days will also be out numbered.

    And Seshyan thanx for your apology

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  29. i dont know why Seshyan Nepal want to be loyal follower of autocratic king in this age of democracy ie 21 th century. hey u still believe king as god or bisnhu ko avatar ki kya ho

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  30. Czech Uncle and Seshyan are closely related, raving lunatics. Escapees from the lunatic asylum. Take your medication you two.

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  31. Kirat,

    I will not go into a long discussion of Cuba now, but I will tell you this: The vast majority of people who leave Cuba for the US are doing so for economic reasons, the same reason that millions of Mexicans and other Latin Americans try to go to the US, the same reason people from all over the 3rd world go to the US. Cuba is a 3rd world country, not a rich country, it is resource poor, and economic opportunities are much greater in the 1st world. People are not fleeing Cuba or other Latin American countries for political reasons, but for economic reasons. Go to Cuba and see how people live if you want to understand it.

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  32. I think that the two Uncle from Chechniya and seshyan are escapados from a mental asylum. Who will tell them not to forget regular medicine.They are comparing the King and the Maoists. They are saying that King is better than Maoists so King should rule. But the question is do the Maoists have State power to kill the Nepali people like the King ? That is the difference. King shold have protected the every nepali by his power at his disposal but he is killing.Maoists took up the arms because they supressed politivally. Nobody listened to their concerns. But lately their killings of innocent people is highly condemnable. but they are not utilising the State Apparatus.

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  33. nice to read al those post and how the nepalese are feeling right now..
    but when we say we want democracy..then we are forgettin it means freedom of expression.. ie freedom to say things that u thing is right … kirat and Seshyan Nepal are correct in their own way.. but the mess we are living in is so big..it wont just disappear as soon as the king is dethroned or we go one gear up as republic..what if prachandra really snatches up power as soon this mella is over and be another pol pot.. kill all the political prisoners..not now but when the tide is down after a year..do we see any apt leaders to lead this country in the time of crisis ? whos the new leader now ? gagan thapa ? all these men have been tested .. they all have their own achilles hill.. its good nepali ppl have realized they want to take things in their own hand…but we shouldnt forget we have ever watchful india as our nextdoor neighbour too..someone here said he would prefer to sing jana gana man instead of being under KG..but then he is saying..he wants slavery of KG to end too..does being a slave of india make anyone a far better than now? instead u will be forced to eat ur own words then.. trust me..why are the north eastern states rebelling like nagaland, mijoram, assam ?? cause when they go to delhi either the gals from these states are abused, not treated like indians or are raped.. so better think twice hai .. josh ma manchee hosh ma hundaina.. as for my opinion.. i think we will be a communist state in another few years as prachandra as chairman .. 😦 .. i guess mao haru ko .. dhaad ma chadera..tauko ma hanne strategy di really work.. sigh !!!

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  34. Seshan Nepal,

    Jai Naresh eh! Ha ha, what a clown. Freaking 18th century hangover. What are you doing in the 21st century, you idiot?

    We don’t need a f—king king. Don’t you get it? Are you so thick? Is there anything inside that brain of yours? Do you not watch TV?

    Have you NO idea whats going around in the world? Don’t you know that most countries don’t have any active role for their kings and queens (if they have them)?

    Jai Naresh, jai Naresh, look at what your machi-kne Naresh has done. F–k him.

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