Hurray! Nepal Is A Secular Country
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Yes, amendments must be made in general knowledge books around the world. The world’s only Hindu Kingdom is a history now and people of Nepal, that country, are happy! Hindus are happy, Buddhists are happy, Muslims are happy, Christians are happy, people from different ethnic communities in Nepal are happy. As the parliament passed a historic resolution making Nepal a secular nation, celebrations started on the main street in front of Singha Durbar, the administrative center of Nepal, where parliament is located.
Look Who Is Smiling?
You can’t hide a smile: A Nepali woman from ethnic community smiles as she watches people celebrating in front of Singha Durbar after the parliament passed a historic resolution making Nepal a secular country.
People took out rally in front of Singha Durbar celebrating the secularism in Nepal
Making Their Voice Heard
Earlier in the day hundreds of people, many of them associated with different ethnic community, gathered in front of Singha Durbar with banners to pressurize the government to declare Nepal a secular country.
People putting flags over the statue of Prithvi Narayan Shah that was vandalized a day before while protesting against the government and parliament’s slow speed in declaring the parliament a supreme organization.
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321 responses to “No Religious Kingdom: Celebrating Secularism in Nepal”
hello guys its really interesting to go through all the comments and sad again at the same time..i respect all the opinions that is being said…since its ur perspective..what i feel is my personal perspective…
nepal never had the problem with the religion so why are we creating one now…while we have lot of problems to deal with…nepal being a hindu country had never had a effect on aything…maoist did come up because they were not hindu…or the terai tiger are not there because they are not a hindu..so why call for problems..dont we think we have enough of problems then to rise one which was silent….what we should be talking about is how to bring peace ..that should be our first priority not talking about something else…..do not talk abotu violence and creating them talk about peace and non- violence..i dont mean we have to be mahmta gandhi we can be nelson mendela…or atleast try to have one of them instead of this stupid pollitican…how can we hope for peace from them and better nepal since they are the one who brought problems..how can we hope that the maoist are there to build nepal …just look all the maoist politican they will be busy building their own house…rather than building house for poor people….dont get into their words…they are buttering people which they are only good at…why are people hungry for power???for what..imagine you not goign to live for 100 years …what more do you want……how many lives do you want to take more….when will we stop this…common its we who should take step now….take the bloddy politicans out …do not trust them …
i hope and pray that i would able to see new nepal, a peaceful nepal during my life time and i certainly will work for it since i am a peace student…
Kill PRACHANDA & ALL MAOIST in the INTEREST OF NEPALI HINDUS & BUDHIST.
Dr S K RAI
HINDU RASHTRA SENA
Being a NEPALI i am with Dr S K RAI & Hindu Rashtra Sena.In the interest of NEPAL we should oppose MAOISM in NEPAL.These MAOIST are agent of CHINA & PAKISTAN.
Dear Nepalis,
First we should remove all MUSLIMS & CHRISTIANS from NEPAL.These MUSLIMS & CHRISTIANS converting we NEAPLIS and pushing our WOMEN & GIRLS into Prostitution.And these MAOIST are playing in hand of MUSLIMS & CHRISTIANS too.We NEPALIS will not allow make NEPAL a land for MULLAH’s-MAOLAVi’s & POPE’s people.Even we should support Hindu Rashtra Sena in the interest of NEPAL
who ever they are they are all bullshit……they don;t wht they themselves want……they are just like a ……..wht ever other say say they go on it… they can;t make a decesion themselves…that’s why u all are facing these kind of proble & situation now………
Hello Mr BAL BAHADUR GURUNG, i would kie to know some thing from you what do u mean by HINDU? Do you the meaning of Hindu? why r u against with Muslims and Christians? if Nepal become a secular then wat is the problem with u? bcoz of like u peoples these non-sense things are happening in nepal and rest of the world. dont see who is hindu, muslim and others just think about the country. by the way i am not against any religion though i am a muslim and proud be a muslim i have friends hindus i am staying with 5 brahmin hindus and i am alone in my group but we never talked abt it we dont even feel that bullshit. everyone hav their own feelings god and all u pray ur god i will pray our god let it be personnel think only abt the country how can we make development in our country. All ALLAH, BHAGWAN, FATHERs everyone is the single person but we know him from different name different religion. u know wat i am the person who goes to temple, chruch and masjid (mosque)…. dont waste ur time in differentiate by religion. another thing and that is very important u know what mr BAL BAHADUR GURUNG all the nepalis are working in muslim countries it self. some peoples are getting into terror thats only bcoz of u……
guys dont misunderstand me but i dont like peoples who speak abt religion if the person is really love his country then u should think only abt the coutry.
being a hindu it doesnt give any values and sense that u r true Nepali or Indian.
If muslims are terrorists then wat abt in India: – VHP, Shivshena, RSS, Bajrang Dal, these groups are world’s biggest terror groups… y bcoz these are the groups who make peoples terror. who make people to fight with each other…..
have you ever heard that any of these groups’ leaders has been dead in any religion riots….???… no……never bcoz they only wants to make money from politics.
if any peoples have any questions then plz contact me on nouman.npl@gmail.com
peoples like kushal are the servant (spoon) of USA. boss know the truth ok. what is the reason that u blame muslims???/ if u don’t know abt any religions or peoples then u dont have rights to speak anything against to him. Islam is the religion who spread by love only and who prays to only one god not to many who doesnt have even their own identity…..
guys dont misunderstand me i am not against to any religion i know only one religion and that is HUMANITY…………
i have seen one interview in nepal tv about muslims they are here from the begining of nepal and that person had come from middle part of nepal his face is full PAHADI he said even i listened that muslims come from India but i born here, my father born here, my grand father born here, my fore father born here now give me the answer if the person has born in nepal and he is muslim then it doesnt meant that he is not nepali…
http://sunuwaruk.org/chandra4.htm
“Hindu Religion Is Religion OF Kirant”
By Chandra Prakash Sunuwar
Dhobighat, Lalitpur, Kathmandu
Email: cpsunuwar@hotmail.com
The Hindu religion:
There are different opinions regarding of the birth of Hindu religion. There is literally a tug of war between the scholars’ one in favour of Dravidian origin and other of Aryan origin. There is hardly any third opinion on that though a small section feels that it has originated from indigenous tribal of India. This is because no great man of this origin had ever tried to write or researched to claim that Hindu religion is born from their indigenous tribal faith. According to The greatest historian of Tripura state whose name is DR DEV BURMAN In his research One group of kiranti who ruled and left in Tripura state they still succeed to protect their kirant language intact from ancient kiranti language which is language of Borok race who live in Tripura state of India because this kiranti people were none stop ruled since 5000 years in northern India till British East India company which is later involved in British colony. Earlier the name of Tripura was Kiratbhumi, it’s capital was in Tribeg. It means land of Kirat, the Tripuris used to be called previously. the word ‘Tripura’ originated from the king Tripur who happens to rule the state. According to the legend Tripur was the 39th descendent of Druhya, who was descendent of Yayati kirant, one of the lunar race kings. He was so mighty that he ordered his subjects not to worship any god other than him, had no faith in god. He started torturing the subjects who defies his order. People fled in a body escape from his tyranny to near by state of Hiramba (Cachar).The history of Tripura is very old. It dates back to the era of the Mahabharata. The name of the Tripura was mentioned in the the above epic along with the states like Manipur, Kamrup (Assam) etc. no doubt it was none other than present Tripura, though its location has changed from its past. Tripura’s name is also mentioned in the list of states that was mentioned in the Ashoka’s pillar that is now reserved in Saranath. Hiuen Tsang also mentioned in his travelogue about the presence of great Boro/Borok kirant kingdom in the east of Bengal. The ‘Tripura’ is a small kingdom, unattached with British of India. It was an independent country till the merger with union of India in 1949 A.D. There are different opinion and explanation about the origin of word Tripura among scholars and historian.
Other kiranti people of nepal like SUNUWAR,RAI,LIMBU AND YAKKHA Their language is almost changed from ancient kirant language because of migration and geography and dynamic of Time before all kirata has same language.
First of all the word Hindu it self has root to non-aryan Kirata or Borok origin with Sindu or Chindi river through the Indus civilisation, is not at all the Indo-Aryan one. Secondly the theory of Hindu religions birth from indo-Aryan faith is null and void by the following facts. Let us look at the list of names of Gods which the Indo-Aryan people had brought when they invaded Indus civilisation. Rig-veda has all the names of god which the Indo-Aryan used to worship when they first came to India. Their faith and philosophy were based on these gods only. The rituals, procedure and hymn etc were detailed in the sacred text of Vedas. Some of the primary and powerful gods mentioned in the Rig-Vedas are Indra, Agni, Varun, Vrihaspati, Brahma, Arundhati, Soma, Vayu, Aswin, Rhitu, Marut, Rudra, Ribhus, Savitar, Brahmanspati. But in the present day Hindu religion none of the Vedic god is worshipped in India. The Brahma is the only one ha temple at Puskar in Rajasthan, and he too does not have any day fixed through out a year. ARAD who was post man of Aryan. He doesn’t have any temple and not worshiped. There is no god of Aryan or Vedic origin in the list of Hindu Gods of modern India, other than doubtfully the Vishnu which is considered to be origin of Dravidian. In Dravidian language Bisnu Means god of BLUE SKY,CLOUD AND VAST SEA. On the contrary none of the Hindu gods of modern India is mentioned or had a place in Vedas. These facts clearly prove that the Hindu religion and its gods are neither born from Aryan faith nor derived from Vedic gods and philosophy.
The major Ancient Civilizations:
There were four major civilizations in the world, all of which were founded in Asia. These were: Chinese, Egyptian, and Mesopotamia and Indus civilization. All the civilizations were interrupted by unknown circumstance other than Chinese civilization which is continuing till date.
Indus civilization:
The civilization of Chinese, Egyptian and Mesopotamia were of homogenous group of people, where as the Indus civilization was found to be comprised of heterogeneous group of human race. The skulls found of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro belonged to proto-australoid, Mongoloid, Mediterranean and Alpine races. This clearly proved that the mongoloid were also part of the Indus civlisation. The proto-australoid were ancestor of modern day’s Santal, Kol, Bhil, Munda etc. tribes of central India, Mediterranean were ancestor of modern day’s Tamil, Telegu, etc. but no skull was found of from the site of excavation belonging to Aryan people.
Who are the descendants of mongoloid living during Indus civilization in present day in India? These are none other than the present day’s indo-mongoloid people or the Kirata or the Borok race living in India namely, Himalyan mongoloid tribes, Kinnours, Spitian, Lahuli, Koch, Mech, Bodo, Rabha, Garo, Tiwas, Dimasa, Kachhari, Karabi, Tripuri etc.
Other Proof of Kirata living in the Indus valley
By the name of rivers in Indus valley:
There were many rivers that passed through the Indus civilization. According to famous ethnologist Cunningham any river whose name ends with ti or di indicates that it was once inhabited by Sino-Tibetan race. Most of the river name of Indus valley were in Borok/Kirata origin, for examples the ‘Ravi river’ was earlier Rawa-ti, ‘Bias river’ was Nyang-ti, ‘satlez’ was-Zong-ti, ‘Para river’ was Para-ti, Saraswati was Solsolti, Gomati was Gomati, Jammu tawi was Jomuti/Somti, Tapti etc. It clearly proofs that once in the ancient time these valleys were inhabited by Sino-Tibetan or Borok race. On the contrary there is no river whose name begins or ends with ti or di in the southern part of India, beyond the Bindhya parbat, which had never been inhabited by the Borok race.
Name of rivers and Places in the Sub-Himalayan region:
There are numerous examples that proves that Borok race once lived in the Himalyan region. Places name: Dehradoon>Di-ran-doong, Teheri>Tiyari, Kampti fall >Kapti > Kaptwi, Khumbu valley>Khumuk valley, Tripura Sundari Temple in Kulu etc.
Rivers Name: Bhagirathi>Bagroti, Gangutri>Gungti, Yamunatri>Yungti, Tista>Twisuta, Tursa>Twiursa, Riang twima, Terai>Twirai etc. These rivers flows from the Uttrakhand to North Bengal in sequences.
Anthropological evidences:
There are many ethnological evidences that there was once habitation of Borok or Kirata race in the Indus valley. If through research and search are being carried out, there will be definite traces of Borok race in the Pakistan around the Indus area even now. The Kinnours, Lahuli etc. are still living in the Himachal Pradesh, who are none but Tibeto-Burman origin and are the people of Borok race who were left back at the time of migration. Similarly there are Rungsa who are still living in the Pithoragarh district of Uttaranchal whose mother tongue had been clubbed with Tripura language in the 1991 census and who claim to be Tibeto-Burman descendant. This Rungsa is none but the previous form of Reangsa of Tripuri Sub-tribe, who were left behind at the times of migration. There are many small tribes of Tibeto-burman Kirata race who are scattered in the Himalayan region.
Route of migration of Kirata people in the Indian continent:
From the Dadiwan area of China a group migrated to head water of Yangtze river around 7000 years ago. Then our ancestors migrated from this Yangtze river head to the site of Indus or Chindi river valley through Khyber pass around 6000 years ago, that is 4000 BC and founded the Indus valley civilization along with Proto-australoid and Mediterranean people. This civilization flourished between 4000-1900 BC. The Kirata or indo-mongoloid might have been the ruler of sindhu civilization as history proves that mongoloid race founded most of mighty empire in the past. When the Aryan nomadic tribes invaded Indus valley riding on the horse, the Borok race could not resist them and had to migrate towards the east along the path of sub-Himalyan region. Where as the Dravidian migrated to the south and the Australoid migrated to the east and middle of India. The Borok or Kirata migrated through Punjab, Jammu, Delhi, Himachal Pradesh, Uttaranchal, Nepal, north Bengal, Assam, Dimapur, Kachhar and finally reached in the present state of Tripura 1400 years ago, and then up to Coast of Bay of Bengal at Chittagong hill tract. On the way of migration many tribes were left behind who in the course of time formed a distinct tribes, but there linguistic and ethnic relation still exist. The descendant of kirata/Borok race are Sunuwar,rai,limbu,yakha,Kinnours, Rungsa, Koch, Mech, Hajong, Rabha, Bodo, Garo, Tiwas, Chutia, Karbi, Dimasa, Kachhari, and Tripuri. Another Antropology evidence is One group of kirata people Migrated from Hunan provience of china through upper course of yantse king river and Western Whwang ho river to Straight down to Assam valley and they start to rule from there and One Branch of kirata start to migrate through western Himalayas and came to nepal and after many centaury of ruling they became SUNUWAR,RAI,AND LIMBU.Actually SUNUWAR itself was rai.Rai is not clan name this was common name or title of the middle and the western kiranti people of nepal but sunuwar changed itself from Rai Title to sunuwar it’s not been long.Still sunuwar is called rai or khambu.Sunuwar people they changed from rai to sunuwar because they wanted to show superiority than rai and limbu.Friest of all they start to Adopt bramhan as their guru and later they were put in Title of namasine jati but not for the rai and limbu.This was Aryan conspiration in nepal for how to divide kiranti in eastern nepal.
Kirata in Ancient Religious Text, Epic and Mythology:
Rajmala mentions that Tripuri used to be known as Kirata in older times. The root word of Kirata is not clear, it may be Kwrak, meaning strong, or Kirithaya>Kiritya>Kirata what is fearless. Kirata is mentioned in the Yajur and Atharva Veda. Similarly the Kirata is mentioned along with Huna, Andhra, Pulinda, Pulkasa, Abhira, Sumbha, Yavana, members of the Khasa races in Srimad Bhagavatam. The Kirata is mentioned in the Ramayan in Ayodhya kanda’s sarga 15 section, with their hair tied up in knots, shining like gold and pleasant to look upon, bold enough to move under water, terrible, veritable tiger-men, so are they famed. Similarly Kirata tribe was mentioned in Mahabharata on the Vanaparva section 39. The Kirata had been described as golden yellow people which are the skin color of modern Tripuri,sunuwar,rai,limbu though over the thousand of year of living in present Tripura the colour had changed more yellow to Dark golden.Even though we kirata and Chinese were the same race present day of kirata are not golden yellowy like Chinese people because of our geography,food style etc. One of the most skill full archer of that time Eklabya was none than a Kirata, Bhima’s wife Hadimba was a Kirata women and Ghototkoch of Mahabharata was a Kirata king, apart from the facts mentioned in the Rajmala that Tripuri kirant king Trilochana had participated in the mythological Kurukshetra war.
Gods of Hindu Religion:
The gods most widely worshipped and celebrated to day in India are, 1) Shiva and in his various forms and manifestations. 2) Parvati and her various forms and manifestation. 3) Children of Shiva and Parvati, they are (i) Lakshmi, (ii) Saraswati (iii) Ganesh (ivy) Kartika 4) Vishnu and his various incarnations. 5) Various Guru as Demi-gods who are considered as incarnation or birth of different gods.
Vishnu is considered by the scholars as the originally god of Dravidian people and have derived from word ‘Vin’ who was god of sun and sky of Dravidian. He was mentioned in the later book of Rig-Veda, when he was accepted in the Vedic faiths.
Gods of Indus civilisation:
The most important archeological finding of Harappa gods is Pashupati, an image of god seated with buffalo, tiger, elephant deer etc, with head gear made of buffalo horn. He is identified with the present day Hindu god Shiva. There were also female gods’ terracotta and images found in the excavation of Indus civilisation. These are the gods of Indus people that used to be worshipped during Indus civilisation.
There are many places in the north India and sub-Himalayan area whose names are indication that the area had once been inhabited by the Indo-mongoloid races ‘Bodo/borok’ branch. Prof. Suniti Kr. Chatterjee in his famous book of Kirat-Jana-Kriti mentioned that there was a city of Kiradu, now ruined, with its 27 temple in the western border of Rajasthan near the Indus civilization site. It means that the city was inhabited and founded by Kirata people. There was also a hamlet named ‘hathma’ or ‘hatma’ meaning wide land in Tripuri language, suggestive of Boro/k people’s inhabitation in the Indus valley region. The capita city of India, Delhi is also considered to be derivatives of Kirata /Borok word dwi-lili>Dilli. There are plenty of similar examples in Assam like Dibrugor, Dihong, Digboi Dimapur, and many more.
Aryan Invaded Indus Civilization:
The Aryan invaded India some time around 1700 BC, the Indus civilization ruined around same time. There were plenty of examples that the Aryan destroyed the Indus civilization and plundered the citizens, the Australoid, mongoloid of Indus valley. There are several wars mentioned in Rig-Veda, Indra was the strongest king of Aryan who destroyed many forts, so he was termed as Purander in Veda. The excavation of Mahenjo-daro and Harappa had discovered many of human skeleton buried in one place indicate that these people were buried in one place after being killed. Finding of skeleton of children further confirms that Indus civilization was plundered and destroyed by external enemy. So the citizen of Indus valley i.e., the Austric race was forced to migrate to wards east and middle of India, Dravidian in the south and the Mongoloid in the north and north east of India.
Sanskrit name in Mythology:
Most of the names of mythological period were meaning less even in Sanskrit. Many Bodo wards have been absorbed in Sanskrit and Sanskritised like, Towi(Twi), Bokkho(bwkha), Ling(lwi), Ahong(Ang) ma(ma means no) Mukkho(mwkhang) Samudru (som-dru) Raja (Rai-cha>raja, becoming head of tribes) and the list goes on. The following words seems like more of the Kirata origin, like the Daksh, Yayati, Druhyu, Nahus, Ayu, Babhru, Brisaparva, Drun, Kunti, Dhrupati, etc. These names indicates that it had been corrupted form the Borok/Bodo words to suite the Aryan tongue. So the mythological and historical person were of Borok kirant race.
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Who are Chandra dynasty descendant?
It is generally known that Chandra was a Aryan king and the modern days Rajputs of north India are the descendant of the king Chandra. But we have to trace the root scientifically with available historical records and explain it logically.
1) It is accepted by the historian fraternity that the Mahabharata war occurred around 1400 BC. Yudhisthir was the king from Pandav and the king of Tripura participated in favour of Duryudhan. According to Rajmala records King Trilochana or Subrai is contemporary of Yudhisthir. He is 47th in succession from Chandra; Yudhisthir was also around the same in the in succession from Chandra. If we take average 25 years of generation age then 46X25=1150 years. Now 1400+1150=2550 years that is king Chandra was ruling India around 2250BC. On the contrary it is historical fact that the Aryan came in India between 1700-1500 BC, so there was no Aryan before 1700 BC in India, than how can the Chandra be Aryan king?? That means Chandra was non-Aryan king, not as claimed most of people.
2) On the other side, the Rajputs as we know today are descendent of Scythic tribes, who came from central Asia and invaded India around 400 BC. Mulchand Chauhan, in the book of ‘Scythic origin of Rajputs Race’ stated taking the reference of ethnographer Col Todd “It is a singular fact that there is no available date beyond the 4th century for any of the great Rajput families, all of whom are brought from the North. This was the period of one of the grand irruptions of the Getic races from Central Asia-’. So the present Rajputs of Rajasthan and other Kshatriya can not be the descendant of Chandra who ruled India 2550 BC. On the contrary the ancestor of Tripuri king, Chandra who was there at around to be a Kirata king is plausible from the evidences and the historical facts avail able with us.
3) Origin of word Chandra: It is a proven fact that many Kirata words had been Sanskritised and absorbed in the pool of Sanskrit word. For example one of the synonyms for water in Sanskrit is Towi, which is Bodo/borok word origin. There are many words absorbed but needs to be researched. There is one more example how indo-mongoloid name had been changed to Sanskrit name. The famous Kushanas kings were Mongoloid Yueh-chi tribe form frontier of China, which had been Sanskritised from Kuei-shang>Kushan in India. The mightiest dynasty of India Mughal derived its name from Mongol (Persian Mughal), Sukrai Ochai converted to Sukracharya. Similarly the original Sanskrit meaning of the word Chandra is “big bright and luminous” which in Tripuri language is “chwngtor” means moon which is bright big and luminus. This kokborok word “chwngtor” for moon had been modified to ‘chandro’, and absorbed into Sanskrit for moon, Chwnngtoro>Chongdro> Chandra. It is from this kokborok kirat word the chandro word had been taken in sanskrit and the dyanasty of Chandra had started form this kokborok word.
4) Pandavs were Mongoloid. The claim of Pandav and Kaurav as Aryan descendant is a doubtful illogical arguments, rather favour to be mongoloid origin. 1) Polyandry among Pandav (a women having many husbands) was not common among Aryans, not found in any other history or mythology. But it is very common and still in practice among the Kinnours, Lahuli, and Spitian Drukpa Himalayan mongoloid tribes. 2) Bhima drank blood of Dushasan is suggestive of barbarian mongoloid. 3) Kunti>Kungti, Dhrupati>Durupti are suggestive of Borok/ Bodo name like Kosomti, Kufuti, Chikonti, Khumbati etc. 4) A Mongolian tribe in the Himachal Pradesh clams to be descendant of Duryudhan 5) After the war the Pandavs went to heaven where a dog is supposed to have lead them, indicating by that their home was at Himalayan hills. When they go to SWARGA DHARI to go swarg they went nepal still you can see SWARGA DWARI in MANANG and MUSTANG.The Pandav were supposed to have been burnt in Laksha Griha which is nothing but thatch which is abundant in hill region of Himalaya, that means they were inhabited some where in Himalayan. So these facts prove that the war of Mahabharata was between Mongoloid brothers.Arjuna married with naga kiranti lady of manipur. Mahabharata tradition of being the seat of the Naga king Citravahana, whose daughter Citrangada was married with arjuna.Arjunas another wife was also naga kiranti lady whose name was Ulupi.how come he married kiranti lady when he was Aryan in that time?Same thing Bhima’s wife was Hadimba who was kiranti lady.He too why he need to marry kirant lady not marrying Aryan lady?Same thing Ghatotkacha of Mahabharata fame (Son of Bhima) was a Kirata Chieftain that means father himself was kiranta origion just Aryan people hijacked them as Aryan.
Still most of the hilly mongoloied tribe worship PANCH PANDAV in many different way.Almost every kiranti village has vimsen than{vimsen temple}and when the pandav fight and travel all the places were in kirant deshe or hilly region like KICHAK BAD which bhima killed kichak was place in jhapa in nepal same thing Mahabharata war itself happen in kirat deshe in land of kirant.Normally when the kiranti people worship Bhima they offer sacrifice of BUFFALLO AND GOATS.If he was Aryan Bramhin or chetri He not suppose to offer Buffalo sacrifice because they don’t eat buffalo in their culture.There is still Mahavarata hill in nepal where the place is densely populated by kirata.so it can prove that this is war between mongoloied kings.
The Origin of Shiva:
The word Shiva has root in the Kirata or Borok race, not in the Vedas becaugse Shiva as god is not mentioned in it Rather mentioned as simple kirant god,destructive of Aryan and animal. Shiva is hybrid of two Kirata words, simani means Gyan or knowledge and Kaiba, means five, i.e. Si+Ba=Siba>Siva>Sibarai>Sibrai . That means a god who has knowledge of five elements of life, that is earth, fire, water, air, and sky, that is cosmic rays which forms the life. That is one who has created life in this world or creator of life in the world. Other meaning can be one who made us perceive or feel five senses in our body, that is who is the soul of the boy. It is this Sibrai converted to Shivai in Sanskrit. From this five shiva is said to have five face and named as “Panchanan.”
In Bodo culture he is known as Bathubrai, meaning king of collection of five elements of earth, fire, water, air and sky, that means creator, the supreme god. The other meaning can apply in this case also. So the god Shiva is originally god of Borok/ Kirata race not that of Aryan or Dravidian.
The other name of Mahadev is direct translation of Mutai kotor, the supreme god of Tripuri people and first among the fourteen gods. The mutai kotor or Subrai is considered as supreme creator of this universe and the life in the earth in the mythology of Tripuri people. This fact had been finally accepted in the Indian mythology and Shiva had been placed above the Vishnu and Brahma of trinity gods.
Feature of Shiva the Creator:
1) His home or abode is in the Himalaya only, namely Amarnath, Badrinath, Hardwar, Kedaranath, Kailash mansarover and many more. It is again home of Kirata or borok race.
2) Fond of wine, ganja, dhatura who remains intoxicated most of time.
3) Fond of meat and non-vegeterean foods.
4) He is half naked, wearing skin of tiger in the loin only, rudraskha or dudrai mala in neck.
5) Living with Snakes and other animals.
6) His symbol is crescent moon, a symbol of Chandra dynasty, Trishul in hand.
7) He is wandering god, living with different ghost in the cremation ground; body is smeared with ash of cremation.
8) Hair is uncombed, unclean body, with horn pipe in hand, and dumbru in other.
9) He is short tempered, mighty, courageous, does not think of consequences, destructives.
10) Easily convincible, compassionate, merciful, big hearted as termed Ashutosh or Bholenath which is nature of kirant.
11) Living with wife, who is Parvati or Haichwkma, goddess of Hill.
12) His animal carrier was originally buffalo, which was later converted to Ox by Aryan people, as found in Indus valley. The buffalo is still the carrier of Shiva in Tibet, China, and Japan proves that it was originally of Kirata god.
13) Worshiped by offering wine, animal sacrifice, and water is poured in the Shiva linga.
All the above feature of the Shiva suggest that he was the god of Kirata race initially but later modified to suit the Aryan faith or belief. And he was termed as one of the Hindu god and his carrier animal had been changed from buffalo to ox.
Origin of Shiva Ling:
There are many explanation of origin of the Shiva linga worshipping and the origin of word linga. But none of the explanation given in the Puran convincing and logical. On the other hand if we explain according to Tripuri custom and belief it can be explained for both. The Kirata are not expert in making idol and never worshipped idol so also the Aryan are. In ancient time people used to worship small linga shaped stone symbolizing as god Shiva specially in the jungle. They used to pour water, sacrificed animals in front of it and smear blood on it. This is still in practice in Tripura among the Tripuri people. This stone is represented as image of Shiva among Tripuri. Such type of example is one Holong mutai in west Tripura interior hill of Boromura. It is very popular and lots of devotee of Tripuri people pay visit every year.
This Holong is pronounces as Hlong in Riang dialect and was also among other Tripuri people in the past three thousand years ago. This word hlong is converted to hlong>hling> ling in later period by the Aryans to suit their tongue. This way Shiva had been worshiped in the form of shiv-ling by Aryans, which was nothing but Holong mutai representing Shiva of Borok race.
Other thing kirata were nature worshiper and they used to worship linga and yoni since ancient time so it can prove that linga and yoni worship religion is kirant religion because noble truth is that without linga and yoni there is no creation so aryans accepted this and involve in their religion.
Other name of Shiva:
Shiva has many name, one such name is Kirateshwar means god of Kirat people, so it also proves that Shiva is god of kirant race. His another name is ‘Hor’, it does not have meaning in Sanskrit other than to steal, where as it has a most significant and powerful meaning as ‘fire’ which lord Shiva appropriately deserves, as he is the most powerful like fire, from which these universe had been created. The slogan raised for him as “Hor-hor Bhom-bhom” has no literal meaning in Indian languages, but it has the meaning full explanation in Tripuri language, as big burning flames of fire! One more name is Tripureshwar, meaning god of Tripura. The other name is Tripurari, which means killer of Tripur. According to Rajmala and mythology also the king Tripur of Tripura was killed by Shiva, so he is termed as Tripurari or enemy of Tripur. All these facts indicate that Shiva was in fact god of Kirata, god of Hindu origin not the Aryan Vedic god. Even in Bed very beginning he was mentioned as simple god of kirata and who bring the pain in animals and destructive force who can travel in air but later he is promoted as MAHADEVA in PURANIC time.
The origin of Parvati:
The goddess Parvati had been directly translated from the Kirata of Borok word Haichwk ma or the goddess of hills, and accordingly worshipped by the Aryan. This goddess is also not mentioned in the Vedas either in name or in any of its form. It purely represents the goddess of Kirata race. In the mythology of Parvati’s birth had been described in many ways, and none is convincing and are contradictory each other. So it clearly proves that Parvati was not goddess of Aryan people but originally goddess of Borok kirant race.
According to Tripuri mythology, she lives in the hill and owner of hill and hills belonging including the animals. She keeps animal under her custody and domestic animals including human are not excluded from it. If she desires so she can take away any animal and human and hide it from owner, which she releases only after receiving offers. She is also the Kamlapati in the famous Boro Kwina ni mutai. Again she is also considered as the consort of lord Shiva who is almighty owner of universe. The same is described in the main land Hindu mythology.
Abode of Parvati:
According to the Tripuri mythology and faith she lives in the jungle and all the high hills. She is worshipped in the jungle only even today. The same theory is found among the main land Hindu also. Where as no Aryan prefers to live in the hill or jungle, where as the Kirata loves to live in jungle and the hill times since immemorial and their god and goddess are always considered to be hill and jungle dweller, so is the goddess of Parvati and Shiva. Parvati or the Vaishnu devi home is none other than in the peak of Himalaya. Other than this different manifestation of Parvati’s and her temple like Chamunda, Hadimba, Tripura Sundari and many more are situated in the hills of Himalaya. These facts clearly prove that Parvati was originally goddess of Kirata and later absorbed in to the main Hindu fold.
Other name of Parvati:
One of the several names of Parvati is Kirati, which means goddess of Kirata people. The other name given was Kiratini again means that Parvati or Durga is goddess of Kirata origin. After giving athese many examples there can not exist any doubt the Kirata origin of Parvati.Parvatis father was HIMALAYA That time only kirata people used to live in Himalayan slope.We can find story in SWASTHANI BRATA KATHA which siba and parvati having disguise themselves as KIRANT AND KIRANTNI and living in SLESH MANTAK BAN IN PASHUPATINATH.That means they were pure kiranti origion whatever the Aryan people did for change her as Aryan god it cannot work and hide from being kiranti.
Manifestation as Uma:
One of the names of Parvati is Uma. This name is also not mentioned in any of the Vedas. So it is not the vedic goddess. The origin and the birth of word Uma is also full of conflicting and contradictory in the Purana. But it is very clear according to Tripuri faith and mythology. The goddess of earth or the state is termed as Ama by us, meaning by my mother goddess. The Tripureshwari Goddess is called as simply Ama or sakani ama that mother of south. This word Ama had been corrupted to Ama>Uma by the Aryan and symbolized with Parvati. It is so simple, logical and rational to explain rather than taking tortuous route. Also CHANDI DEVI is another form of durga or parvati is considered mighty kiranti lady still chandi is main deity of kiranti people specially SUNUWAR AND RAI.
Origin of goddess Durga:
Like the origin and explanation of all of the gods and goddess of Hindu in the Puran are contradictory and conflicting, this one is also facing the same. Neither of the explanation is satisfactory. She had not been mentioned in the Vedas and not worshipped during the vedic period. So she is also the goddess of Kirata people. There is one interesting fact to note that, one small idol of Goddess Tripureshwari is placed just on left side of main idol even now. This idol used to be carried out at the time of war by the commanders and placed first in the fort or durgo in the war field. She was first worshipped and then preceded for war. So she is the protector of durgo, from this durgo the ward and form of Durga had come into being in modern day.
First Celebration of Durga:
Durga puja in the modern form was first celebrated by Koch king Kongsha Narayan in the 16th century, who was descendant of Borok race. Similarly there is a Durga mandir in the Dimapur which was built by the Dimasa King. The Tripura king had their Durga mandir near their palace since the ancient time. There were many coins of Tripura kings discovered with Durga image proves that it was goddess of Tripuri people. First the image of Durga was found in the coins of Kushan or Kuei-shang king dating back to 1st century AD. It was later found in subsequent kings. So Durga was goddess of the Kirata or Borok kings and Borok race in name & form, a goddess of war and victory, which was later accepted by the people of other races.According to religion book Once Rakshasas ruled Heaven{mountain kingdom like KASHMIRE,NEPAL ETC}and sacked INDRA AND OTHER DEV Aryan people.Their leader was MAHISHASHUR who came to fight with riding on MAHISH[buffaloo}.Later who was killed by goddess DURGA Kiranti lady In favour of aryans.It seems aryans always succeed to use kiranti people even in past.They worship kirant god SIVA,DURGA,CHANDI,KALI but ignore other kirant people and decendent of these god and goddest.Probaly mahishashur itself must be kirata or other mongoloied tribe because this kind of buffalo riding things done in southern china,Vietnam,Cambodia and other mongoloied country OR it must be someone aborigional people like astro-Asiatic people or Dravidian people.There is 100%sure durga is not god of Aryan.When they go to ask for the help of god siva Aryan deva were seems using unbelievable words which mahadev can’t say no himself even he knows dev Aryans were wrong for war.Such flattering word like “HARE MAHADEV,TRI LOK ADHI PATI,KARUNA KO KHANI DAYAKO SAGAR,ANTARYAMI,JYOTIRNA MAYA SAKTI,TRINETRA DHARI,PRAVUKO HAMI TUCHCHA PRANI CHARAN KAMALMA CHAU HAMI,RAKSHA GARA HEY BHOLE BOM”Because of this kind of highly flatterable word made him compelled to Help them.Still the chetri and bramhin people use this kind of dirty and flattering word when they need something from others like saying “RAJA,PRABHU,DARSHAN HAJUR”This kind of word is not perfect for to use ordinary people like darshan suppose to use for god.In Very beginning in Veda Aryan mention him as ordinary kirant god but later promoted him as supreme god of all in puranic time because of his power.Some example like in veda mentioning like this {BHASMESWORE KIRATA DEVA,PASHUMA HANI PURAUNE,VAYUMA BICHARAN GARNE,TRASKO DEVATA,PISHACHA,MANAV MA DUKHA LEWNE—-In Translation it says god of destroyer,horror who bring pain in animal and human who travel in air like dark cloud}You know such hates horror god of Aryan later promoted as mahadeva,kalyan kari,trilok adhipati{god of heaven earth and hell} how funny is that how can they changed their tune.It prove they are opportuniest.
Origin of Kali:
The origin of kali in name and form has come from the Borok people, but again hijacked by Bengali. The kali had derived from the word swkal or witch. It is pronounced as Skali in Riang dialect. Skali is later on corrupted from Skali>kali to kali in Sanskrit. An evil spirit swkal when takes refuge in women is called as Swkal, and when takes to man he is known as Beduwa. Swkal is again considered as consort of Burasa mutai, an evil form of Subrai. That is why she is worshipped or offered in the night, in the jungle only. For this reason we find the attire of kali with garland of human head, waist cloths of arms, with sword, drinking human blood, and protruded out tongue, which symbolizes imagination of our Swkal.Kali is wife of siva and another form of Parvati.Parvati has too many forms like durga,chandi,kali,kapali,vadrakali,chada,munda everything.It clearly prove that kali is kiranti goddess not Aryan.
Origin of Laksmi:
The goddess Laksmi is also did not find any place in the sacred text of Vedas. It had been mentioned as adjective to describe, not as goddess. It had derived from Kirata goddess of Mailuma in form who is goddess of rice and wealth in form. On the word form it had derived from Noksuma, here letter N is replaced with L that is common in Aryan language, like Nimbu=Lembu, Lon(take)=Nin. So Noksuma>Loksuma>Loksma> Loksmi, where as it retained the form of goddess of Mailuma. As such the rice was grain of Kirata race, who brought while migrating from china, where it was first discovered by Chinese people, so the concept of Goddess of rice given to Laksmi favours of Kirata race.
Origin of Saraswati:
This is the only goddess found in the Vedas and found to be origin of Aryan people. But again its form has been totally changed form its earlier form. It was mentioned in two meaning, one as river one as goddess. Sarswati in the Vedas was goddess of wealth, fruits and well being not as goddess of learning and intelligence. Sarswati to day is clothed with white color which had derived from Khuluma of Tripuri people who is goddess of cotton and learning as she teaches us to weave and design the clothes. Khuluma is considered white color as she for cotton.
Origin of Manasa:
Goddess manasa was not mentioned in Vedas like all the Hindu gods, she is mentioned only in the latter part of purana, some where in 15th century. She derived form the goddess noksuma of Tripuri people, but here she got the form and the meaning of Noksuma unlike laskmi who go only the name. she is goddess of snake like noksuma of Tripuris. The letter N of Noksuma inter changes with the last letter M and K is deleted. So naksuma>mansama>mansa. Mansa is goddess of snake in main land Hindu simmilarly the Noksuma is goddess of snake among the Tripuri people.
Origin of Lord Ganesh:
He is described as son of Shiva and Parvati, so he is none but mongoloid god. His name and form is also absent in the Vedas, that means he is not the Aryan god. It most likely represents the god Goria of Tripuri people. The other name of ganesh is Binayak, on the other hand baba Goria is worhipped as Binairok by the Ochai. This shows that the Goria and the Gonesh is same in the past. The knot tied at the end of Risa for holding paddy, cotton, flower etc was misinterpreted as trunk of elephant, so the ganesh head is considered as to be of elephant. These way, binairok became binayak and goria>gonesh. As Baba Goria is god of wealth, production, benevolent, and for the welfare the lord ganesh is also considered in the same meaning in main land Hinduism. So the Goria being transformed in to ganesh is the fact.
Origin of Kartik:
Kartik is younger brother of Ganesh, and son of shiv and durga, there by he is god of Kirata people by birth. His name is also not mentioned in the Vedas, so he is not god of Aryan people. According to Tripuri mythology, god Kalia is younder brother of Goria, he is also god of welbeing. In the course of cultural synthesis during puranic period this kalia had been transformed in to Kartik is quite possible.
Not Believing the Facts Above:
If the above mentioned facts are not convincing and finding difficult to digest and not easily going up to our brain, then look at the following facts:
1) The Tripureshwari Temple of Udaipur is built by King Dhanya Manikya in the year 1500 AD. But now it is mentioned in the Puran and described this temple as part of 51 pitha where Parvati’s right foot is considered to have fallen when her body was cut into 51 pieces by sudrashan charka. Then, is this true to the historical facts of Tripura?
2) The 14 gods of Kharchi are all Gods of Tripuri people and are named according to kokborok in the past. Rajmala compilers like Kailash Chandra had clearly mentioned that these were none but translated to Sanskrit, though retaining the same meaning.
3) The Kamakhya Temple of Guwahati was built by Koch king (Borok race) in the end of 13th century, but this is again included in the list of 51 pitha where Parvati’s private part is considered to have fallen, where as truth is other way round!
These bramhin people were so opportuniest and champion for to make false story which can be benefit for them like BUDHANIL KANTHA OF NEPAL They made unnecessary folk tale about it saying it was found by one local farmer when he dug the peddy plot and toe of bisnu had cut of during digging and blood start to came out side and blood start to flow everywhere.The poor peasant so horrified and asked for forgive since then all people start to worship and King shouldn’t go there to see budhanilkantha if he go will die because once when king been there lots of naga came to kill him.This is folk tale which bramhin people put illusion for uneducated people but if we see in scientific ground it was Made by JISNU GUPTA during lichivi period.Same thing GAUTAM BUDDHA who was fighting whole of his life against this Bramhan culture touchable and untoucheble they seize opportunity and put him 9th incarnation of god bishnu.This is completely redicules and opportuniest behavior.It means Aryan can do anything if it benefit them.Doesn’t matter true or false.There is one folk lore about bramhin.Once priest bramhin was about to eat rice pudding one white colour of dog came and eat it the rice.Bramhin is so shoked eat or not to eat.If he eat other people will hate him if don’t eat this is rice pudding.He was so greedy then he off sudden made slok saying Black dog is bad and white dog is very good.He said this and rushed to eat rice pudding that means for them black can be white,white can be black For us is after all dog is dog whatever the colour is.
So what is your Religion?
Now going through the historical facts mentioned above who are the original Hindu? Are we Kirata or those invaders Aryan? What are their gods they brought along with them and listed in the Vedas? What are the gods images found in the Indus valley? What are our traditional and mythological gods?
Who have converted to Hindu to whom? Did the Aryan convert us to Hindu? Or we Borok (Kirata) converted Aryans to Hindu?
Who had stopped worshipping their gods? Is it Borok or Aryan? Who had lost their culture? Is it Borok or Aryan?
They claim our civilzatiiion is their civilization and our religion is their religion.This is 21st centuary Histry must rewrite.
So my fellow kiranti people there is no cause to feel inferior or to feel that Hindu are not we or gods of Hindu are not ours. There is no reason to search for BETTE R GOD and BETTER RELIGION. No logic to through your OWN RELIGION & GOD. All the India’s religion, culture and land belong to you since 6000 years. The earth, water, fire, air, and sky of India are also yours, as it had been of your ancestors for thousands of years ago.
This article is based on truth whatever aryan people try to clerify hindu is their religion but it’s not they just stolen from kirant.So far in my research bramhin and chetri doesn’t have nothing apart from CHUTIYANESS.
The True Origin Hindu, rituals and practices belongs to Kiratas,Sakas,Nagas who were all the ancient native of ancient India.
What the Aryan did after their conquest in ancient India. They took all these religious practices and compiled into their Veda text, modifying and rewriting the mythology.
The Vedic Hinduism was created for their benefits while distorting the facts and origins of Hinduism.
The fact is that Hinduism was already in existence and was practiced by Kiratas long before the Rig-veda was written.
The problem is not with the Hinduism but with the Vedic Hinduism. For example, the Vedic Hinduism created caste system and false doctrines.
If you folks have time, one need to read this:
Tribal roots of Hinduism by Shiv Kumar Tiwar
Tribal and indigenous people of India by Rabindra Nath Pati, Jagannatha Dash
Nepal: Forms and Origins of Discrimination
Krishna B, Bhattachan, PhD
There are several historical markers of domination and discrimination against indigenous peoples and other minorities in Nepal. These are as follows:
The main historical marker of Hindu domination begins with caste restructuring by King Jayasthiti Malla in the Kathmandu Valley in the fourteenth century. The King invited five Brahmin priests from India to Kathmandu. Based on their advice, the King restructured the Newars, the indigenous peoples of the Kathmandu Valley, into 64 castes based on occupational division of labor. These caste divisions were neither based on hierarchic Hindu varna model, that is, Brahmin at the top followed by Kshyatriya, Vaisya and Sudra at the bottom, nor on inscription. It indeed paved a way for intensification of the processes of Hinduization or Sanskritization of indigenous peoples of Nepal (Jijima 1963).
The second historical marker of Hindu Bahun-Chhetri domination is the conspiratorial attack against the Magar King of Lig-Lig Kott by King Drabya Shah, who later won a war against the Khadka King of Gorkha in 1559A.D.. This was the beginning of the downfall of independence of indigenous peoples in Nepal.
The third historical marker of continuing Hindu Bahun-Chhetri domination is the territorial “unification” of Nepal in 1769 by King Prithvinaryan Shah. Prior to 1769, indigenous peoples had their own rule in their respective traditional homelands. King Prithvinarayn Shah annexed small but independent kingdoms, “22 and 24 principalities,” of different indigenous peoples either through defeat in war or through mutual agreement of autonomy within the centralized State. After the defeat of Kirtipur in the Kathmandu Valley, King Prithvinaryan Shah ordered to chop off nose tips and ear of the peoples of Kirtipur that weighed 18 dharnis, i.e. about 40 kilos. Thus, one can imagine the extent of brutal physical violence and humiliation to minorities and indigenous peoples under the sword of Prithvinarayan Shah. The King accepted that Nepal is a country a garden of four Castes and thirty-six varna but his mission was to make Nepal a real India (“Asali Hindustan”). The main consequence of the territorial unification was that all indigenous peoples lost their independence and gradually lost their rights to land, water, forests, mines, rivers and pastures. Thus, indigenous peoples began to loose their language, religion, culture and indigenous knowledge system.
The fourth historical marker is the Muluki Ain (National Code of Nepal) of 1854 implemented by Junga Bahadur Rana, the founder Prime Minister of 104-years of autocratic Rana rule. The National Code, the first ever codified law applicable in all parts of Nepal, restructured Caste and ethnic groups and divided them into fourfold social hierarchy. The Tagadhari (sacred thread wearing or twice- born) caste was at the top, followed by the Matawali (“alcohol drinking castes”). They were sub-divided into namasine (“unslavable”) and masine (“slavable’) groups. Although, indigenous peoples never belonged to Hindu social hierarchy but the Rana ruler legally included them in the second in the hierarchy as “alcohol drinking caste. Pani nachalne chhoee chhito halnu naparne (impure but touchable castes”) were third and pani nachalne chhoee chhito halnu paine (‘impure and untouchable castes”) belonged to the bottom of the social hierarchy. The whole National Code, including the punishments was based on caste discrimination. Thus during the 104-years of Rana rule, indigenous peoples of Nepal were Hinduized and Sanskritized. As its consequences, many indigenous peoples began to loose their language, religion and culture. The most devastating events in this period was confiscation of traditional Kipat land tenure and re-distribution of land to state elites, i.e. Bahun, Chhetri, Rana and Thakuri, through Birta and Jagir land tenures and exploitation of indigenous peoples and Dalits through forced free labour such as jahra, rakam, beth and begar(Regmi 1999). The Rana rulers prevented Tamangs, one of the indigenous peoples of Nepal, from joining British-India-Army and any government jobs in Nepal, except as Pipa (‘porter’) in Pipa Goswara office in Singha Durbar in Kathmandu.
During the Partyless Panchayat rule from 1960-90 under the direct and active rule of King Mahendra and King Birendra, the rulers launched a campaign of One King, One Country; One Language, One Dress. The project of melting pot was intensified in a country characterized by salad bowl of caste, ethnicity, language, religion, culture and region. Any organized effort to preserve and promote indigenous peoples language, religion and culture was charged as “anti-King,”, “anti-constitution”, “anti-national,” and “communal.” Also, caste- based untouchability was abolished in the revised National Code of 1963 but due to lack of necessary laws, its practice continues unabated.
The Peoples Movement of 1990, following the pro-democracy wave in the Soviet Union, eastern-European countries, and other parts of the world, jointly organized by the Nepali Congress Party and United Left Front, including Nepal Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist), demolished the autocratic party less Panchayat political system and restored democracy in Nepal. It raised a lot of hope and expectation to reduce socio-cultural and political inequalities. The hope remained unfulfilled.
The Constitution of the Kingdom of Nepal, 1990
The Constitution of the Kingdom of Nepal promulgated in 1990 was modeled after the West-Minister style of parliamentary form of government, which is highly centralized and exclusionary. Indeed, winner takes all in such a system. Given socio-cultural diversity of the Nepalese society and culture, the Constitution discriminates and excludes minorities in many ways (see definition and identification of minorities in a separate section). The Consultative workshop organized by Nepal Federation of Nationalities (NEFEN) with support from Minority Rights Group International (MRG), has identified 26 provisions in the Constitution and 49 legal Acts that discriminates against indigenous peoples (NEFEN 1999). There are many such provisions that discriminate against other minorities. Also, caste-based untouchability has been made illegal but lack of laws has made it meaningless in practices (Bhattachan 2001; Dahal et al. 2002).
There was a strong demand for secularism not only by the non-Hindus but also by the Hindu Dalits’ who have been forced to face caste-based untouchability by their “upper caste” Hindu counterparts. In spite of the fact that Nepal is a multi-religious country and a historical fact that about 150,000 people demonstrated in the streets of Kathmandu, which was the largest gathering ever in the history of Nepal, demanding for secularism, the Constitution of the Kingdom of Nepal, 1990 declared Nepal as a Hindu State, prohibited to form any political parties on the basis of religion. ‘The Article (4) of the Constitution stated, Nepal is a multiethnic, multilingual, democratic, independent, indivisible, sovereign, Hindu and Constitutional Monarchical Kingdom. Another most discriminatory provision was the distinction between nations language and “national languages”. The Constitution declared Nepali language as the only official language. Many indigenous peoples of Nepal have a culture of eating beef (“cow meat”). The National Code of Nepal (Muluki Am) prohibits killing of cow and the offender gets life sentence. Instead of declaring national animal with full cultural sensitivity, Article 7 (2) of the Constitution declared cow, which is sacred for the Hindus only, as the national animal. Therefore, indigenous peoples were prohibited to slaughter cow and eat its meat.
A study conducted by the Forum for Women, Law and Development (FWLD) in 2000 stated, ‘there are 118 Clauses/Section/Rules, two Rules in their entirety, and 67 Schedules/Annexes/Forms in 54 different laws including the Constitution which have discriminatory provisions’ (Pradhan-Malla et al. 2000:VI). The Constitution and laws discriminate women in every field including citizenship, property, education, employment, health, marriage & family, legal & court proceedings (Pradhan-Malla 2000:13).
(Text Courtesy: Minorities and Indigenous Peoples of Nepal)
2009-02-18 07:53:35
Hindu god goddest are kirata god but caste system and other descrimination system is brought by this raksas bahun and chetri so to blame hindu means you need to study very deep.As above historian chandra prakash already mentioned about hindu religion and what polluted it.The problem is all about chetri and bramhin still they are polluting nepal you see how long we watch their drama in nepal.
The problem is not with Hinduism. The problems lies with the creator of the Veda teachings.
Hinduism is just a new term coined by the western scholar to classified all the religious practices in Indian sub-continent.
Veda did not said our religion is call Hinduism or give any name to it.
Therefore it is just known as Vedic teachings or Vedic Hinduism.
Hinduism= pre-vedic(Kirata+Dravidian) religion + vedic(Aryan) religion
Therefore folks learn to distinguish Hinduism first. Hinduism is not bad after all if you know enough facts. It just that bad element has come into it and influence it. Like Indians coming to Indian-subcontinent and influencing Nepal, Sikkim, Assam politics and so on.
The creations of Veda was for the benefits to some only. Many are treated as low born man who have to serve others. Anyone who was non-aryan or whose teachings differs from vedic religion was placed as low born man.
According to Srimad-Bhagavatam and Bhagavad-gita, anyone, including so-called low born men,
who may take shelter unto the Lotus Feet of Lord Krishna or His devotees, is sanctified by initiation process.
kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa
abhira-sumbha yavanah khasadayah
ye ‘nye ca papa yad-apasrayasrayah
sudhyanti tasmai prabhavisnave namah
upon translation is;
Kirata, Huna, Andhra, Pulinda, Pulkasa, Abhira, Sumbha, Yavana, members of the Khasa races
and even others addicted to sinful acts can be purified by taking shelter of the devotees of the
Lord, due to His being the supreme power. I beg to offer my respectful obeisances unto Him.
(Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.4.18)
In the purport of this verse Srila Prabhupada describes the Pulindas as the Greeks, from whom Western civilization has descended, and the Hunas as the Europeans, who later inherited the Greek legacy. The Khasas are the Chinese, or Far-Eastern peoples. The Kiratas are described in the purport as aboriginal peoples from the Kirata province of “old Bharata-varsa.”
Now isn’t this a quite a contradiction? How can the Veda even classified other races as low born man whose teachings must have surely differs from vedic? Is like saying the Islam, the christians and other religions are of low born man.
When the Aryan found that their gods like Agni, Indra, Varun etc. were loosing popularity and people did not worshiped the gods which they brought, rather they were worshiping Subra(Siva)and following Saivisim, then they placed Sibarai worshiping under banned. At first the Aryanised conquerers held this religion (Saivism) in disdain and placed in under a ban. But it did not helped; ultimately peoples over come such banned and Saivism contininue to strive among the aborigines. At the same time to secure easy recognition by the aboriginal people, they placed Siva into Hindu pantheon. ~ By John Marshall, John Hubert Marshall Sir, Asian Educational Service
According to The Indo-Aryans of ancient South Asia By George Erdosy, the primitive Saivisim, Vaishnavism, Sankhya and Yoga which are the four corner stone of modern Hinduism was recognized as non-vedic by the orthodox exponent of the Vedism in the early periods.
“The clear conception of Siva arose in the Upanisadic age. Siva as been, for the first time, explicitly mentioned as the Aryan god in the Svetasvatara Upanisad in the background of Yoni-Linga relationship. There was never mention of Siva as Aryan god in Rig Veda, the oldest text of Aryan”. From here it can be ascertain that Siva was worshiped by the aboriginal Kirata and Dravidan people before the advent of Aryan. ~Tribal roots of Hinduism By Shiv Kumar Tiwari
Hence to secure easy recognition by the aboriginal people, the Veda placed Siva into its pantheon later when Aryan found that their gods like Agni, Indra, Varun etc. were loosing popularity and people did not worshiped the gods which they brought.
More conflicting is that since Siva is placed at the Hindu pantheon, why should these “low born man” whose religion was the worshiping nature,i.e stones, snakes reflecting Sivaism had to take shelter unto the Lotus Feet of Lord Krishna or His devotees?
The reasons are given by Romila Thapar in this excerpt.
“While supporting this literary evidence, also has admitted that in all likelihood the Kiratas were the worshippers of Shiva.The assertion that Shiva, the god of the Himalayan mountain, was worshiped by the non-Vedic kiratas, can be proved in many ways. Some of the foreign scholars have also consolidated the concept that Shiva was a patron god of the aborignals. Megasthenes has also referred to the two Indian deities– Dionysus(identified with Shiva) and
Herakles (identified with Krishna). The former was worshiped as the highest gods on the mountains and the latter was adored in the plains.Thus it is clear that the practice of worshiping Shiva might have begun much earlier to the Christian era, even though the Kiratas did not call themselves Shaivas.”
This shows that worshiping of Krishna was more evident in the plains than the hill regions and it can be seen Krishna as more to vedic teachings.
The Mahabharata epic tells how the Lord Krishna came to help Pandavas, while Lord Siva came as Kirata proves that Sivaism was one of the pre-vedic religion and belongs to aborigines living in the hills.
The following praise from the Veda scripts tells it all.
Om Namah Sivaya Kirataya
Om Namah Umayai Sabaryai
upon translation is;
“Om! Salutation to Siva, the all good, the Kirata!
“Om! Salutation to Uma, the mother, the Sabari!
And this is quite a high exaltation of the status for the non-Aryan hill people, when the scriptures from the vedic literature solely reveal the true identity of Siva and Uma.
Both Kirata and Sabari are aborigines of non-aryan origin. Sabari is a female name from Sabara tribe. Sabara tribe is associated with food-gathering and hunting activities. ~Tribal and indigenous people of India by Rabindra Nath Pati, Jagannatha Dash
It is therefore scholars have identified Siva and Sivaism with that of aborigines/tribes than of vedic teachings. With the advent of Aryan and influence of their Veda teachings, Siva and Sivaism was placed in the veda and as one of the trinity to secure easy recognition by the aboriginal people, they placed Siva into Hindu pantheon. ~ By John Marshall, John Hubert Marshall Sir, Asian Educational Service
Kiratas along with other tribes non-conforming to Vedic teachings was classified as Mleccha(babarians) in many early texts, in a sense that they were destroyers of Aryan. Hence the Siva was name as destroyer in the Hindu Trinity. ~ G.P Singh (The Kiratas in Ancient India, 1990)
As one scholar said “To begin with, the kipat system and the mundhum are traditionally uncontested metaphors of Kirata culture. Similarly the worshiping of Tagera Nyingmaphuma or the supreme deity was a pan-Kirata symbol. But with the abolition of kipat system and the simultaneous influence of Hinduism, these symbols
have lost their strength considerably. Since Tagera Nyingmaphuma, is often personified as Shiva, who is not only considered tribal God but also one of the Hindu pantheon, he cannot be claimed by the Kiratas as their exclusive God” —Politics of Culture:
A Study of Three Kirata Communities in the Eastern Himalayas), 1999 by Tanka Bahadur Subba
Hence we need to clearly distinguish between vedic and pre-vedic religion and to conform with the practices as have been doing for the time since immemorial.
There is no class(varna) in the pre-vedic religion. This is one merit which we can restore the glory days of pre-vedic periods.
So what is your Religion?
Now going through the historical facts mentioned above who are the original Hindu? Are the aborigines or those invaders Aryan? What are their gods they brought along with them and listed in the Vedas? What are the gods images found in the Indus valley?
Who have converted to Hindu to whom? Did the Aryan convert us to Hindu? Or the aboriginals(Kirata & Dravidian) converted Aryans to Hindu?
So my fellow Nepalese and aborigines of Indian-sub continent there is no cause to feel inferior or to feel that Hindu are not we or gods of Hindu are not ours. There is no reason to search for BETTE R GOD and BETTER RELIGION. No logic to through your OWN RELIGION & GOD. All the India’s religion, culture and land belong to the aboriginal people since 6000 years. The earth, water, fire, air, and sky of India are also yours, as it had been of your ancestors for thousands of years ago.
So it’s a good thing that Nepal kicked Indian priest from Pashupathinath temple. Now we need dalit and Kirati to officiate the temple.
HH Dalai Lama was on tv and he said meditate 3 minutes on compassion.
more useful than o money mantra.
If karl Marx migrated from Mongolia or Punjab at this stage vote ecology and by all means pro immigrant in my Europe.
If your grandmother is from Delhi what is the complication, some are intelligent and I am not.
Dr. Ambedkar dalit buddhist.
So we all should go Mongolia then or what the encyclopedia predicts for weathercast?
Stalin nobody likes mao was of a similar race to …..
The Hindu Religion is neither Aryan nor Mongolian nor Dravidian as Modern science is neither American nor Japnese
The Ancients were Great Spiritual Scientists and Studied in Sincerity the Facts and Truths behind the Universe and The divine forces monitoring the Cosmos were revealed to them .
It is now proved that Sanskrit is the Best language for Computer programming .
This proves it was a artifically created set of Sound vibrations to run computers and as Human Brain is also designed by nature as a natural computer , it helps to remember a large Data in min words.
Hinduism I say is the Heritage of Humanity well preserved by People inhabiting the Ganga , Tungabhadra and Brahmaputra triangle called India.
The Later Arabs running after one person and Christians who were fanatics lost this civilization.
China too preserved this Civilization but lost due to Mao fanatism are now on way back to claim back this liberal tradition.
The Americans too are comming to this reality fed up of Fanatic Christian Priests.
Islam + Christanity wiped out the whole world is agian Hindu(Social , Spiritual, Cultural , Economic Libralization).
Thanks
I WANT NEPAL HINU…………………….
WE HAVE TO DO IT………..
HINDU IS THE GREATEST RELIGON IN THE WORLD …AND THERE IS NO ANY NATION AS A HINDU COUNTRY…..?
WHAT A STRANGEFULL THIS ……HINDUS CAN’T BE A TERRORIST…..
THEY ARE VERY GOOD PEOPLES……
NEPALIS..BE SELF CONFIDENT AND DO NEPAL AS A HINDU NATION AGAIN………..
TEACH YOUR CHILDREN HINDUISM IN THEIR CHILD HOOD
U CAN DO IT………………
FORGET MAUISM AND BE HINDUISM ……ONLY THEN I WILL HAVE PROUD ON U………..
JAY SHRI RAM,……………………..,,,,,,,
it is sad to know the kiratis aborigine of Nepal are to day considered as low caste. casetism today i believed is merely a sociopolitical idea of ruling class community or group in order to suppress the commoner or minority group. as many people had mention Hinduism is kirata origin also they have mention tripura. Tripura represent excellent example in this; if tripuris are kirat origin then hw cum they form the Kshatriya community. the answer lies tripura is never ruled by aryan community so no aryan got the chance to make us low class rather we considered them to be low class. except the Hindu Brahmins because they are highly respect by the kings. how ever in-terms of local Chontai/the Brahmins caste of tripura the Chontai got most part of the temple works to their hindu Brahmins counterparts. also the tripuris considered they are the descendent of subarai/siva. Trilochana(three eyed king of tripura) was the incarnation of siva born to queen Hiravati. that times onwards the tripuri rulers are considered to be descendent of siva. and they considered to be highest among all class. seen the kings are powerful they make there community to be in higher class i.e the Debbarmas.
this i belived is all political game of the monarch. and now the same principle is applied by indian political parties which is dangerous for democracy. but the tripuri kings are kind enough they give Kshatriya status to all its subject (jamatia, reang, noatia, halam etc the indigenous tribes of tripura) which is not done by any Hindu kings any where in India. this leads protest from all over india during 1900’s especially from the Brahmins community. but the king pay no heads to all these protest. and today tripura is a caste free state. follower’s of sivaism the religion of kirats are always welcome to tripura. the subarai hatai/unakoti is the second most sacred place after kailash monsoruvor. the statue of siva and his familly is worshiped here and no hindu Brahmins are allow here to perform puja. pujas are purfermed in tantric way the way how kirat follows in ancient days.
All kiratis need to be unified if they want its history in the world map.
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