King’s Deceptive Message
The much awaited address by king has only solidified his ambition to remain in power.
Royal Message inside
In his 5 minute long speech, king has tried to take credit for his direct rule and seems reluctant to give power to the people. He has cited article 35 of 1990’s constitution and asked SPA leaders to come up with a name of Prime Minister. Until such name is fixed, the king has declared that he is clinging to the power.This is an utter deception. He is not willing to give up the power yet. This is only a cosmetic change and no one should believe in his words.
It is done only to manage the growing international pressure upon him. He should have cited article 128 by which a powerful PM could be appointed. He is not ready to bring the Maoist in mainstream politics which is the major concern of the people. He should have asked SPA to form an interim government that will eventually hold election for unconditional Constituent Assembly.
People sloganeering in the streets have voiced their concerns over kings deceptive steps.
Meanwhile, state has extended curfew from 8pm to 12 o’clock.
Rajendra Pande, central member of CPN (UML) says : This is a treachery. The movement will go on unless power is handed over to the people.
Upper House MP and lawyer Radheshyam Adhikari comments: This so called solution can not stop people from reaching their goal of loktantra.
Proclamation to the Nation from His Majesty King Gyanendra Bir Bikram Shah Dev
7(21 April 2006)Beloved Countrymen,
You are all aware that, given the situation prevailing in the country then, we were compelled to take the decision of 1 February 2005 to set in motion a meaningful exercise in multiparty democracy by activating all elected bodies, ensuring peace and security and a corruption-free good governance through the collective wisdom, understanding and the united efforts of all the Nepalese. By supporting our decision, the Nepalese people made amply clear their desire for peace and democracy and the civil servants demonstrated sincerity towards their duties. We are appreciative of this. We also have high regard for the dutifulness, valour and discipline displayed by the security personnel, upholding their glorious traditions.
By visiting different parts of the country, we made honest endeavours to acquaint ourselves with the hopes and aspirations of our people, mitigate their hardships and boost their morale. We also called on the political parties to enter into a dialogue in the interest of the nation and people afflicted by violence and terrorism. However, this did not materialise. The ideals of democracy can be realised only through the active participation of political parties. In keeping with the traditions of the Shah Dynasty to reign in accordance with the popular will in the greater interest of the nation and people and our unflinching commitment towards Constitutional Monarchy and multiparty democracy, we, through this Proclamation, affirm that the Executive Power of the Kingdom of Nepal, which was in our safekeeping, shall, from this day, be returned to the people and be exercised in accordance with Article 35 of the Constitution of the Kingdom of Nepal - 1990. As the source of Sovereign Authority is inherent in the people, harmony and understanding must be preserved in the interest of the nation and people in an environment of peace and security. While safeguarding multiparty democracy, the nation must be taken ahead along the road of peace and prosperity by bringing into the democratic mainstream those who have deviated from the constitutional path. Similarly, a meaningful exercise in democracy must be ensured with the activation of representative bodies through elections as soon as possible. We, therefore, call upon the Seven Party Alliance to recommend a name, for the post of Prime Minister, at the earliest for the constitution of the Council of Ministers which will bear the responsibility of governing the country in accordance with the Constitution of the Kingdom of Nepal - 1990. The present Council of Ministers will continue to function until the appointment of the Prime Minister.
May Lord Pashupatinath bless us all!
Jaya Nepal!
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If he won’t give up power, we’ll have to drag him out and make him give it up then. Drag him out in his pajamas.
I think even the RNA is ticked off now. You think those guys want to keep fighting all the time? Frankly, we should try to influence them now. Let him know that he’s not the only one who can play divide and rule.
King Gyanendra wants to make us fool again. This speech was his attempt to calm down the widespread protest that is clearly threatning the very continuity of monarchy in Nepal. But this will not help him much. He should understand that Nepali people no longer accept his autocracy. They deserve freedom.
Leaders of the alliance, be aware. Don’t reach at any kind of agreement with the king that will undermine Nepali peoples’s desire of freedom. No compromise on democracy (loktantra) and election to constituent assembly. Otherwise, this protest will be directed toward you folks. Don’t fall in the trap of king.
somebody expalin article 35 and 128 of 1990’s constitution!
Reactions to the speech here please!
It is also time to test the dedication and committment of SPA. Whether they are able to unite at this phase is more important.
Girija Prasad should not be allowed to use his kutil-niti and selfishness.
In order for country to be brought back into track, the situation should be reverted back to as it was before Asoj 16, thus Last Democratically Elected Prime Minister, Sher Bahadur Deuba should be offered his rightful chance to become the PRIME MINISTER.
As was the initial understanding of the SPA, Sher Bahadur Deuba may then reinstate Pratinidhi Sabha as per the decision of SPA.
However, it may be wise to form a National Government comprising Severn Parties, whose main agenda should be to bring Maoists to the political mainstream.
what else can King do ? He can only give up power to 7 Party.
If you guys remember, he tried this 2 years ago too and then 7 party start fighting with themselfes and i think the same will happen again. leaders will start fighgint for PM post..
People of Nepal! Go on with your protest and don’t stop until your wishes are true!
This was a political and misleading speech!
LET THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRIME MINISTER PRIME MINISTER, SHER BAHADUR DEUBA BE REINSTATED TO HEAD A SEVEN PARTY COALITION.
Well according to BBC when they wanted to know Girija’s view, he just didn’t want to make any comments. And this is just pissing me off. How couldn’t he ? Doesn’t he have any idea where he stands ? What they were fighting for ? Why he needs to consult with SPA leaders to say this king is maniac and NC will keep on fighting until the full democracy is there W I T H O U T the king
Not enough! this is totally inadequate. The king is now trying to divide the power hungry SPA leaders and continue to be in charge albeit behind the scenes.
No way! It’s not enough.
People of Nepal are on the street for more than two weeks now asking for re-storation of complete democracy. More than 12 people have already died from the Royal government’s bullet and political leaders were sent to jail and some were kept for almost three months yet the King gives only 5 minutes address to the nation? It seems like he has not yet understood why the people are on the street. He is not going to buzz at all. We must continue our movement until monarchy is competely wiped out of Nepal. Nepal, a poor country don’t deserve to have an expensive, selfish and greedy king. GYANENDRA and his entire family must be dragged out of this country and only then we can start a new Nepal. A PRajatantrik Nepal.
Let’s not stop our movement for complete democracy!
“We are committed to multi-party democracy and a constitutional monarchy,” the king said in his address on Friday.
“Executive power of the kingdom of Nepal, which was in our safekeeping, shall from this day be returned to the people.
This is utter non-sense and crap. King thinks that we the people of this country are really fool.What he thinks? Does he think that he can take and give back power whenever he wants? Why constitution? He must know that people do not want any satus quo and they want change………
He must address:
New constitution
Maoist
Reinstatement of parliament
and The Election of Constituent Assembly…….
Unless he does so, There is no point of stopping the Present Janasagar.
We want Republic state and He must understand This very clearly
Don’t they have someone who’s at least in their 30s-40s to be the new prime minister? Everybody they elect is always old and has some kind of moral flaw. Girija person looks like he’s going to die any second, K Bhattarai is known to be an alcoholic and a womanizer, and Deuba’s taken mucho dinero from the gov and bought his wife jewelry with it. It’s not like the people from nepal don’t know this. Hell, I’m half way across the world and haven’t visited Nepal in years, and *I* still know this.
Anyway, my reaction to the king’s speech is:
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If justice and peoples rights are to be restored then Sher Bahadur Deuba, as a representative of a SEVEN PARTY should be the next Prime Minister.
To hell with Girija and his crooks. I think Gagan Thapa and co. will give some better answers. (Also, they might be able to draw some people.)
I heard that Girija Koirala is trying to grab the seat of Prime Minister instead of giving it to Sher Bahadur or Madhav Kumar.
C’mon, lives of 10 peoples in two weeks doesn’t deserve this. We want Peoples Republic of Nepal.
It is a little and it is too late. It looks to me the cabinet can not reinstate Parliament even it wants. Without parliament the cabinet also can not clip the power of KG. Moreover there are other stake holders to take care off by SPA. They are MBs and India.
I don’t understand why the leaders released from jail celebrate with vermilon and garlands and rejoice as if it was a great achievement, especially at a time when many people are dying and more are injured. Politician in Nepal, whether from NC or UML, are very opportunist and waiting for their turn to the hot seat.
I think SPA should now take up the responsibility.
I understand that there has been much of deception in the past. However, when the message is as clear as it is, we should not be just looking of pessimistic views.
SPA should form a government:
by Sher Bahadur Deuba as PM,
K. P. Oli and RamChanrda Poudel as Deputy Prime Ministers
and comprising of Ministers from all seven parties, the main agenda of which should be to bring Maoists into mainstream.
KG thinks that RNA has done good job to maintain peace and the people had support his feb 1 decision. That sux man…! Really.
Manan,
Timro cyberspacema awaj thulo
Aantcha bhane sadakma gayera chichyau!
We have to get the army on our side. That’s ALL that the thug ‘King’ has on his side. Frankly, if we can even sow a little discord, that would be all. If even a few people in the army revolt, it could lead to a major conflagaration.
exactly deceived by wishing to stay in status quo. it is simply uacceptable. let ca decide the future of nepal. that will bring permanant peace in nepal.
We seriously want Republic of Nepal……….Some leaders from students Union should be Next Prime Minister Like gagan thapa, Rajendra Rai, Biswo Prakash sharma, or someone like that……….My vote will go to Baburam Bhattarai, I think he will be the ideal choice……….But We should not agree in this point because what we want, we have not got yet.
Ganatantra Jindabad.
I am outta here. We can just rant here and do nothing else. Hope SPA will release their statement soon rtaher than taking Raja G seriously.
Manan,
The RNA is never going to revolt! They are the single most reason for the terrotorial and political integrity of this country.
No time to rest yet. People must stay on the streets and correct the hasty (if any) leaders if they get fooled by this. Hope not.
Yes, revival of parliament, maoists and const. assembly must be addressed before accepting any offer.
All politically detained should be released unconditionally right now so that they can contribute to the SPA’s meeting.
Here aresome people who think Sher Bdr should be PM etc. They are completely misled by KG. Small brains!! Going back to Sher’s time doesn’t help, can’t u see? We have to address maobadi issue, nepal ko garib janto ko issues . It’s not only about who becomes PM!! Phew, poor brains!!
Sesyan Nepal,
I heard you describe yourself as a clown before. That’s your role, friend. Don’t forget it.
King has stepped one step forward by declearing power to people.
SPA should grab this opportunity and name one PM as soon as possible.
Everyone is very tired of this current situation.
New PM can restore parliament and can bring CA if there is majority in parliament.
Lets go for election.
SPA should have peace talk with Maoists.
We will vote this time.
This is the last chance for SPA if they have best interest of the country at heart. Else they can go on demoralising the Army. Once the army is gone the Maoists would shoot them all the usurp the power.
Don’t rely on your luck too much SPA, we have seen what an incompetent bunch you guys are.
Let us try to be positive as well. Let us try to be realistic in what can be achieved. There are lot of issues that needs to be addresses however, first step is to give the power back to the people and remove all the bloody tyrants like Tulsi Giri and Kamal Thapa from power.
SPA should come up to the expectations of Nepalese people and form a government ASAP headed by Sher Bahadur Deuba.
this is not enough, this is incomplete speech, to disperse the demonstration by illusion.
wht he has addressed, the demand to clinch of politicians, where is the answer to nepali ppl. where you have addressed these things:
1. Moaist
2. People killed in demonstration
3. the status of army
4. more important, what is the job of seven party after they form gov, wht power do they have over constitution
I want to know:
1. can this gov call mb to join gov
2. can they annouce contitution assembly
3. can they revive house of representative
can anybody explain wht power this gov will have ? legal view.
i am more interested to know about this
You can fool, Some of the people, All of the time, and
All the people Some of the time… but you can’t
Fool All of the people All of the time
Unless the RNA revolts, I don’t see how the people are going to get what they want. And why shouldn’t they revolt?
They want money, like everybody else. IF the U.N doesn’t give them jobs, plus if money from abroad doesn’t keep coming in, what business have they to keep remaining in their role?
Its not that difficult to get them to break ranks. Its happened elsewhere.
Daer All,
KG has not yet given up his greedy desire to stick in the power. The royal speech is again another kind of betrayal. Girija and et may betray the people’s movement in the name of reconcilation. Beware of it. We should not accept anything less than constituent assembly.
Recent Speech by the king is just yet another ploy to derail the peoples movement .How can king talk about giving up executive powers when theres curfew imposed and extended in the city .Five hours ago two leaders of SPA were arrested from the airport. Lets not just go by his words.His intentions are not at all good. The Nepali word “Naaso” that he used to don’t by any way addresses what people in the streets are demanding .
And where are Maoists ??? Where do they all stand in the new equation? They never wanted this, did they ? Does it mean that SPA and M are going to fight each other now ? haha .. no not a very good scenario.
Khabardar!!!
If the leaders fall to Gyane’s trap and start the dog fight to become PM then it will be another even more violent massive massive andolan to sweep the floor and cleanse it from not only Gyane, Kamale, Tulse etc. but also Girije, Makune, Shere etc.
We must not stop until we have a complete democracy with republic. No more playing with poor Nepali’s soul.
Those 10 people didn’t die in vien. The leaders have more moral responsibility than the Maoists for they sent those people to die without any arms unlike Maoists who atleast send their cadres armed to confront the armed forces. Nihattha janatako ragat ko bal ma sasan kasaile ganra chahancccha vanye tesko mulya pani bhujhnu parchha.
If anyone has the country’s best interest at heart, they’ll chase the king out of the country. Looking at him, he looks like he can’t run for 10 minutes without getting out of breath.
He could use the exercise.
And I’m sure plenty of Nepalese people want to chase him out. It’s a win win situation.
Who is Gyanendra to ask for the name of the Prime Minister? He should first give up the power and Nepali people will decide who their prime minister will be. He should get himself out of the whole process. Period.
I think this is a difficult choice for the SPA leaders. I guess the people will not be easy with the decision if SPA decides to form a government.
However, I believe all should come into a consensus including the maoists.
Yes Definitely This is the last chance for SPA if they mess up this time they all will be killed by NEPALI JANATA.
SPA should not be puppet of india and usa.
CNN has said clearly” New PM should have BLESSINGS OF INDIA”
Let’s see if GP, MKN, SBD can come up with a name.. last time these greedy bunch fought among themselves and could not agree on one name. History may repeat it self.
and can they arrest all the present members of council of ministers including chairman, police officers, army officers, etc who ordered to shot the citizens in peaceful demonstration before they flee country.
if not i am again in the street, whole nepali must b in street.
we warn SPA make us clear.
Facts fellas:
Gyanendra is still going to be in Narayanhiti, while Girija and other loosers are going to fight tooth and nail for the PM seat! Ha! Ha!.
Sher Bahadur is the Jhumra ko putali and most incompetent person in this world………..Gagan Thapa or baburam must be PM and at the time of taking PMship, yhey must declare what they are going to do
Revival of Old Parliament
Talk with Maoist
Government(interim) to hold constituent assembly election
punishment to all the RNAs and police and thapa and Giris for committing Human Right Violations
hey mr earth from third world
King said clearly Power of people back to People.
Its now the responsibility of SPA to bring maoists to talk.
No way Deuba can be PM. He can be manipulated to easily. I personally think he’s one of the greatest enemy of democracy ( along with few other SPA leaders). We need someone who’s strong & can’t be swayed by King (& other power centres). probably Narhari Acharya…. (gagan is a bit 2 young, maybe few years later).
I think Maoists also should be there in the Govt.
I don’t care what the ‘King’ said. I want to see him go back to his ceremonial role. I want to see him go back to writing his poems. And I think the 200,000 who demonstrated, alons with a few million others, want the same thing.
Just forming of Next Government is no solution……….we want revolution here and such a process that even the parliament can remove king if it ratifies by 2/3 majority.In Bhutan, just new formed but yet to implement Constitution says that U can remove king if parliament passes such proposal by 2/3 majority………We want new Constitution and we want such provision.
BetterNepal, lots of us believe that the ‘power of the people’ has NOT remotely gone back to the people.
And until it really has, I doubt there’s going to be much progress. It would be kind of painful to have the entire news stations all over the world laugh at the Nepalese
The BBC people already did, kind of.
People who are charmed by Sher Bdr Deuba: Mind that it was him who dissolved parliament under KG’s ‘matiyaar”. And he has not been happy about SPA 12 point agreement with MB. Sher cannot address MB issue. Sher won’t be appropriate even if SPA go ahead and follow KG’s instrunction.
THis is a slap on the face. He is still defiant.
The choices are:
1) Reject it outright.
Pros: It may be faster
We will be reaching the goal outright
Cons: More blodshed
Chances of losing momentum of the movement
2) Take it and bargain for more power
Pros: Less bloodshed
Will be supported by international community
Cons: Goals not achieved yet
Long, slow process of bargaining and will require a lot of manuvering
Gyane might create division within SPA, and take back power
More uncertainty
oic hemuji
what are u another terrarist?
Hey Power is already in the hands of the people, why wait for this hag to give it?
He is sitting on his foxee ass asking for it, lets boot him out, I’m sure he has his caravan ready, chase him to the tribunal.
UWB,
its better if u can put wht is there in article 35 and 128 of 1990’s constituion of Nepal.
What can and cannot gov formed under article 35 do?
Hey Melissa
BBC has agreed that King has taken FIRST STEP to the progress in whole scenario.
And it is easy you to say staying in foreign land. It is us who is going through hell daily.
Sher Bahadur Deuba is last option Guys.believe me I AM BETTER THAN dEUBA. Ya , we can go to choose Narahari acharya or better option I propose will be Baburam Bhattarai………But, is it time to talk and is it worth of talking on this point coz i believe that Democracy or what we exactly wanted has not come back to us……We want something More Guys haina ra!!!!!!
i wonder if the ppl who are talkin here ever gone to the streets right now ? some are millions of miles away from nepal n typin in the comfort of their homes while someone is in the street baring cold hunger and bullets..
i dont think any change can be bought from there.why dont u guys come down here..and face the muzik too
I believe someone from UML needs to be PM. Their communist brethren Maobadi could be tackled better by this way.
Or ppl like Daman Nath Dhungana or Padma Ratna Tuladhar!
Dagger is true.Bro, i would be there if i was in Nepal………
It was unclear, however, exactly how such a transfer of power would take place and whether it would mollify his political opponents.
We salute u people who are working and fighting for ganatantra.
thanks betternepal.
i can see that. but the question is in practicle, wht article 35 says?
However, first the issue of CA needs to be resolved. Unconditional CA.
The King has taken this decision based on consultation with India and US. Therefore we can assume that this solution is acceptable to them. Now, if the SPA wants to go against the wishes of international communities, then good luck to them.
We should ask the army who their loyalty is to. Their ‘King’ or the people? Straight talk.
The tyrnat should eff off now!
no more deception, no more tricks!
the leaders as well should not decieve people’s desire.
if they go to tie an unholy knot with the king, they are being irresponsible towards people
this is the climax of the revolution, if you believe it really is, and you should make us see the end with the establishment of Republic of Nepal.
Hey Guys!!!
Why did not KG addresses the issues raised by Maoist and civil society. Why the authentic comments of SPA, Maoist has not yet come? Are they still thinking the King is favouring them?Don’t believe on “Gharla ra Khaula”. If this happen again the people will throw you in rubish bin.
Long live the peopl’s power!!!
Ain’t nothing gonna change folks, Gyane is still going to ride is limo while the SPAMers going to bark enlessly. NO GANATANTRA!
Can we trust the seven political parties’ leaders?? Isn’t it beacuse of them all this chaotic situation arose???
What say???
Let us be realistic guys. It seems as if many people dont even know anything about Nepal.
Get out of your computer chairs and see the reality of Nepal, see how it is see who have represented people, who are the parliamenterains.
Who called the demonstrations and what should be done to restore democracy and peace?
Let us be realistic, let us not act like children and suggest names of Gagan Thapa ( who plundered in name of students at TC- 1 number durbar ko dalal) and corrupt people like Narahar Acharya (ex-darbariya).
In order for justice and system to prevail in country, SPA shoud form the government ASAP headed by Sher Bahadur Deuba.
It sucks that KG still thinks he is supreme. He decides from the palace, and we have to follow! He won’t try to know what people are upto now. Not even what SPA are upto. It’s crazy. It’s just a conspiracy.
Rajendra Pande, central member of CPN (UML) says : This is a treachery. The movement will go on unless power is handed over to the people.
Upper House MP and lawyer Radheshyam Adhikari comments: This so called solution can not stop people from reaching their goal of loktantra.
This proves that these SPA are not easily going to submit to the Shahi Terrorists. Andolan should rise like tsunami and sweep away these all Democracy haters like Paras and KG.
There is nothing new in KG’s Speech. He is still proud for what he did in Feb 1. That shows that he can do the same again and again when he wants. That is not Democracy to us. He must know that Rule of law is sine qua non to Democracy.
Beloved Countrymen, You are all aware that, given the situation prevailing in the country then, we were compelled to take the decision of 1 February 2005 to set in motion a meaningful exercise in multiparty democracy by activating all elected bodies, ensuring peace and security and a corruption-free good governance through the collective wisdom, understanding and the united efforts of all the Nepalese. By supporting our decision, the Nepalese people made amply clear their desire for peace and democracy and the civil servants demonstrated sincerity towards their duties. We are appreciative of this. We also have high regard for the dutifulness, valour and discipline displayed by the security personnel, upholding their glorious tRude wordtions. By visiting different parts of the country, we made honest endeavours to acquaint ourselves with the hopes and aspirations of our people, mitigate their hardships and boost their morale. We also called on the political parties to enter into a dialogue in the interest of the nation and people afflicted by violence and terrorism. However, this did not materialise. The ideals of democracy can be realised only through the active participation of political parties. In keeping with the true wordtions of the Shah Dynasty to reign in accordance with the popular will in the greater interest of the nation and people and our unflinching commitment towards Constitutional Monarchy and multiparty democracy, we, through this Proclamation, affirm that the Executive Power of the Kingdom of Nepal, which was in our safekeeping, shall, from this day, be returned to the people and be exercised in accordance with Article 35 of the Constitution of the Kingdom of Nepal - 1990. As the source of Sovereign Authority is inherent in the people, harmony and understanding must be preserved in the interest of the nation and people in an environment of peace and security. While safeguarding multiparty democracy, the nation must be taken ahead along the road of peace and prosperity by bringing into the democratic mainstream those who have deviated from the constitutional path. Similarly, a meaningful exercise in democracy must be ensured with the activation of representative bodies through elections as soon as possible. We, therefore, call upon the Seven Party Alliance to recommend a name, for the post of Prime Minister, at the earliest for the constitution of the Council of Ministers which will bear the responsibility of governing the country in accordance with the Constitution of the Kingdom of Nepal - 1990. The present Council of Ministers will continue to function until the appointment of the Prime Minister. May Lord Pashupatinath bless us all! Jaya Nepal!
hello mr earth from third world
I don’t know wat is in article 35. But lets be optimistic and see if SPA will make a right move in future.
and Response1
Issue of CA can be resolved by the parliament if there is majority of voting in favour of it i guess.
Article 35 of the Constitution. Executive Power:
(1) The executive power of the Kingdom of Nepal shall, pursuant to this Constitution and other laws, be vested in His Majesty and the Council of Ministers.
(2) Except as otherwise expressly provided as to be exercised exclusively by His Majesty or at His discretion or on the recommendation of any institution or official, the powers of His Majesty under this Constitution shall be exercised upon the recommendation and advice and with the consent of the Council of Ministers. Such recommendation, advice and consent shall be submitted through the Prime Minister.
(3) The responsibility of issuing general directives, controlling and regulating the administration of the Kingdom of Nepal shall, subject to this Constitution and other laws, lie in the Council of Ministers.
(4) Except in so far as any action is to be taken in the name of His Majesty pursuant to this Constitution and other laws, all other executive actions shall be expressed to be taken in the name of His Majesty’s Government.
(5) Any decision, order or implementation warrant to be issued in the name of His Majesty pursuant to this Constitution and other laws shall be authenticated in such manner as may be set forth in rules made by His Majesty at His discretion. All other decisions, orders and implementation warrants to be issued in the name of the Council of Ministers pursuant to clause (4) above shall be authenticated in such manner as may be set forth in rules approved by His Majesty.
(6) No question shall be raised in any court as to whether or not any recommendation or advice has been given to His Majesty pursuant to this Constitution by the Council of Ministers or any other institution or official, nor shall any question be raised in any court about what recommendation or advice has been given.
Instead of declaring his own exit from the power and announcing the election of constituent assembly, his majesty did try his best to play the cheap game. So bad. We shouldn’t listen to him until he does announces his exit and of the election of contituent assembly. I will go and join the rally as I have been doing for the last several days.
I heard Gyanendra looked stoned on valium today. Good. Keep up the agitations. I suspect he’s going to overdose soon.
Here’s to that day.
And a Republic of Nepal thereafter.
I am not terroris but want to solve the problem. If there is no Maoists involved there is no peace in the country. In the whole set up, Maoists must be there.
PART 21
TRANSITIONAL PROVISIONS
128. Provisions Regarding The Council of Ministers:
(1) The Council of Ministers existing at the commencement of this Constitution shall be deemed to have been constituted under this Constitution.
(2) If, for any reason the Council of Ministers referred to in clause (1) is dissolved, His Majesty shall constitute a new Council of Ministers consisting of representatives from the main political parties.
(3) A Council of Ministers constituted under clause (2) above shall consist of a Prime Minister and, on his recommendation, other Ministers, State Ministers and Assistant Ministers as may be required.
For u guys who didn’t know about Dhara 36 and 128
U can read Article 35 above. It does not make any sense at this point of time about Article 35 because KG and his followers have raped Old Constitution so badly from all the (loop)holes that it became non-functional. There is no compromise on People’s democracy and its power.
ganatantra should be Our Aim.
Asti samma ball raja ko court ma chha. Aba raja le babal forehand haneko chha. Kohi chha SPA ma rojer federer jasto? Forehand ko jawab forehand le dine? Ki game- match- Gyane hune ho?
Cyp and Kirat: Seems you both missed me very much. So what is your analysis of the King’s proclamation?
As you can see the 1992 Constitution has a lot of potentially conflicting things, as it was drawn when King was bargaining for lots of executive power. Next step is surely a Ceremonial (or NO) king, AND CA. This will solve ALL problems.
yes hemuji
To bring maoists in goverment they should first come to the peace talk. Submit their arms and ammunitions, go to election. No. of seats they win in election they can come to govt. Not directly in present scenario.
thanx reposne1.
betternepal,
king still have power through this article to oppose the dcision of SPA.
6) No question shall be raised in any court as to whether or not any recommendation or advice has been given to His Majesty pursuant to this Constitution by the Council of Ministers or any other institution or official, nor shall any question be raised in any court about what recommendation or advice has been given.
this is above law.
only part of the power is transformed, this is not a serious commitment by king in my view.
The silent majority in Nepal wants the King to be there. This is the truth.
Believe me, if I was in Nepal, I would be there. And I agree with Candie, I have a lot of respect for those who went to protest, leaving their comfortable middle class homes and risking their lives.
But that risk will be worth absolutely nothing if the king is allowed to be a king. I value those people’s lives too much to let them have risked it for nothing. Just so the despot king could wake up in his comfy jammies in Narayanhiti the next day to munch on donuts and watch TV.
And Sher Bahadur Deuba’s wife, Arju Rana is related to Gyanendra so I can see why Mr. G would want Deuba to be PM. And Arju Rana of course, inherited mucho $$$ from her Rana family. The $$$ that the Ranas had stolen from tortured, raped, murdered people.
The people of Nepal in my opinion, have been getting screwed over by the Shah/Rana hybrids for a long time. (Add koirala, and k bhattarai to that).
A British historian dude showed up on BBC and was saying that the monarchy was finished. Gyanendra will be exiled to India because he’s done too little too late.
CPNM and SPA,
Where are you hiding still? Why we did not get your comment on King’s deceptive message? Do you have difficulties positioning your stand in connection of royal trecheraous proclamation? King will again get doubt of benefit if you start arguing on his deceptive message. Isn’t it crystal clear KG still wants to remain in power? Deuba may come with greedy desire, if so kick him out from SPA .
I was in Assi Ghat Sharma with Anup and Dipti Ranjan Mishra, when I came to know that the king who is also the chairman of the Nepali government was going to address today at 7:00 NST.
Actually, a boadman was listening the news broadcast by an Indian radio channel. The news read was talking about Karan Singh’s briefing and his recent visit to Nepal, and the demonstration in Nepal against the King. Meanwhile, it said that the King would address the nation. So we rushed to Lanka.
After eating Idlies in a restaurant just opposite of this cybercafe, I and Anup entered here.
I first opened ekantipur and nepalnews. There was only mention of the “address.” The bbc site posted nice reporting from Kathmandu.
After waiting for many minutes, the king’s speech has been has been published by nepalnews.
I did not feel that I read the whole stuff. But for me still it appears that the king is only trying to save his throne.
The very king and his company who have always used bitter words for the leaders who resorted to the foreign support for the fight against autocracy seems to be kneeling down to the Indian government’s pressure.
Shame!
Couldn’t he say earlier that the executive lies in the people? Or, is he only trying to obey what his indian masters have ordered?
Why did he wait for Karan SIngh?
Why did the Indian goverment send Karan SIngh who is cousin of the Nepali autocrat?
Something is fishy.
This is powerplay again. The Indian government and the Nepali Royal Place are only looking after their vested interests, it appears so. They do not have to do with the democracy and people’s desire. If not so, why the double standard?
The political parties, particularly, the Seven Party Alliance should understand this and should not give up what they are doing now.
Yes, people have been suffering from the general strike and the curfew imposed by the goverment. Personally speaking, I too have bee stuck here in India. I am practically broke now. But I don’t care if the demcracy gets established.
Let’s see what would happen next.
It is easier to criticize others but to act is just another thing.
Now let’s see how the PM from SPA is going to solve Maoist problem of Nepal. Last time it was their rule when the Maoists flourished. Good luck GP, MKN, SBD or whoever is going to be the PM, I hope you guys will do something about the real problem of Nepal
We are in a very decisive situation in the history of nepal now.Right now we are having half an hour of black out, the only thing that is brightning up by room is the light from the computer screen.
King has been very meticulous at usage of words ..Just .listen to its Nepali Version. Look at how he uses words like “Naaso”.
The SPA and People in the street has to be very cautios now . How many more days can demonstration be possible ?? A sinlge Lemon has now been bought for 11 rupees can u imagine that ? what shall be the situtaion if we keep on doing andolan for 15 more days? Will my employer give me salary of the month of April ? Will govt. Emlyoyees get thier Salary if things keep on running this way ??
I m not at all trying to demoralise the peoples movement, but how many days can this andolan carry on!! The king is not going to call it off. Until RNA is supporting the king we can never have a republic lets face it .How many more people to die for the country ??? I am worried and frustrated with all this . Its just my observation and questions … WHat will happen to NEPAL ??????????????
“While safeguarding multiparty democracy, the nation must be taken ahead along the road of peace and prosperity by bringing into the democratic mainstream those who have deviated from the constitutional path.”
Is KG referring to the Maoists here???
How soon before even the army gets pissed off? That’s the question. Its good the U.N is tightening the noose. Something has to be done to make the Army understand the consequences of supporting the ‘King’. In time they’ll understand. Once they don’t get those jobs, once they don’t have the money to buy the ammo.
Who knows? Insight might come faster. They saw the crowds. 200,000 here, 80,000 here, 50,000 here. They can’t be fool enough not to realize that no one wants their ‘King’ around anymore. Numbers, numbers, they make an impression.
I don’t know if people will keep the agitations up. Surely there will be more deaths. But if they’re kept up, the army will crack. That’s the power of a popular movement.
What if we have a PM appointed by the seven parties and then he appoints the council of ministers and still is under the king who will still be the constitutional monarch? Do we, or do we not want a country free of this idiot king who seems to keep on taking control of power time and again. Then we have another situation where we face the fact,about who will be, the next PM? We are aware of the fact, that once we make provision for the parties to take over power, they do change their colour. SO, now its upto us to decide, do we settle for something less even after loosing so many valuable lives, or do we continue and get what we really want and what those people who dies for really wanted?
Guys, lets look at this situation in this way, the parties go to the power, arrange for an election to a constituent assembly, we vote for a republic and so finally Gyanendra goes. This method could be very peaceful, our economy won’t suffer and what’s more it will all be done within the spirit of democracy.
Or rather we could make Gyanendra himself declare that he is abdicating the throne, but that won’t happen without a huge bloodbath and an irreversible damage to the economy.
Choose your option guys.
yes, submit arms and ammunitions like a lame goat; participate in elections like other parties and then just be a replica of NC as in 2048 and 2056 elections! That’s what a decade-long armed conflict and sacrifice of so many people worth , right??
so what do u mean to say hopes still alive ? u want to have a street fight btwn the commies and the RNA in ktm ? or u want the RNA to give up its arms to the maos ? or u want the maos to go to election with their own security and if someone doesnt elect them…wham !!! or u are still thirst of our blood ?
Given the fact that we have the Moaist to deal with, appointing a PM is not going to solve our problem. we still have to think about resolving our conflict with the Maoist. For that to happen, the present condition of constitutional moarchy is not an option. So, even if we do have a PM he should dissolve the constitution and hold fresh elections.If i was the PM i would definitely sack the present Army, Armed police chiefs and then Kamal Thapa and all the present ministers. Lets hope the new PM does think along my lines.
The King gave you what you wanted…now everyone is griping,but we don’t want that! we don’t trust the political parties! Give me a break, then! Everyone knew the parties could not be trusted after their decade long failure…and now you are going back to accept the same old garbage, the same old prime ministers, nothing new? What the hell do you people want? If you want political parties, then find some new fresh blood, someone who is really in touch with the young people of Nepal.
Otherwise, you got what you asked for…and, yes, the King did it to save his own F_-ass, no more…now you have to remember that one day, since the monarch stays in power, it will be KING PARAS. God help Nepal when that day comes. I say, get rid of him now or the royal family will haunt you FOREVER.
Admin please start new topic for discussion what political parties are saying with their views and what janata are doing on the streets. Here is crowd of opinion and it will be very difficult to read when it crosses 100. It will be easier to read and comment when there is another topic. Guys keep on watching merosansar.com .np also. worth of reading Nepali Blog.(it’s not advertisement just info for those who want to know live updates.)
You know what? This guy Gyane is going to buckle. Sure. This was a desperate effort to try to convince everyone that he’s still the tough guy. But one look at his eyes and you can tell. He knows the end is near and is just trying to prolong it.
Now if those SPA leaders can understand that, they can do some pretty hard bargaining with him. Now’s the time. He’s under pressure.
Whatever the King may be but he is NOT an idiot. I wish if our leaders would have been as cleaver as he is .. the country could have been great. With Jalanaths, Gachhedars, Sujatas, Joshis, Wagles we have no hope !
of course the present ministers will be sacked once the new PM comes.. but i dont think no one will dare to touch the RNA and its generals..they are too powerful
People:
It is easy for us (me,Melissa etc.) to come here and rant about how the people should go no with the movement until Nepal is a republic. However, I am interested to know if the people of KTM can continue to go on protesting… How much longer can people go on with the curfews, rations etc? I really respect the people of KTM who have come out to the streets in the last 2 weeks.
I don’t know what to think of the King’s speech. I have a difficult time trusting this man. He is not one that sits back like his brother. But at least it seems there is some progress… I think the SPA should nominate Girija Prasad Koirala as the next prime minister. Yes I hate the man and his evil spawn Sujata Koirala - I would like to lynch them in public if I could. However, right now if you think about there are no other leaders who is capable of standing up to the king. Deuba is a spineless idiot… he got us here in the first place. Madav Kumar is just Madav Kumar I don’t see him as being really capable of anything.
People like Gagan Thapa are promising leaders and but they cannot handal the situation we are in now. This is a tricky sitation because the King still controls the RNA etc.
I hope that the parties manage to come to a concensus and nominate someone… then the next step has to be revival of the constituent assembly. SLowly the constituent assembly will bring the Maoist to the mainstream politics and hold general elections… the biggest obstacle is to get the RNA in the hands of the civilian government.
Bahula_kaji: Don’t despair. Republicanism is no answer. King is necessary for Nepal’s ethnic cohesion and territorial integrity. Remember what happened to Yugoslavia ?
I think daggers right.
Please Dineshji and Ujjwolji, do moderate your blogs.
LET US NOT PUT VIOLENCE PROVOKING STATEMENTS HERE.
WE NEED PEACE IN NEPAL. LET US NOT HAVE OUR COUNTRY BE ENGULFED BY ANARCHY AND VIOLENCE FOREVER.
KING HAS STATED OPENLY FOR SPA TO BRING THE NAME OF PRIME MINISTER, WE NEED TO CAREFULLY ACCEPT IT.
SPA SHOULD NOW FORM GOVERNMENT ASAP HEADED BY DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRIME MINISTER.
YES IT IS SHER BAHADUR DEUBA WHO WAS ELECTED BY THE LAST PARLIAMENT. SO SPA SHOULD LET HIM BE THE PM, AND FORM A GOVERNMENT COMPRISING OF SEVEN PARTIES.
THEN IT WILL BE THE TEST OF MAOISTS IN WHETHER THEY are ready to GIVE UP THE VIOLENCE.
I am dead against the king, he should leave.
Just saw the guy on BBC TV…
He just looked heavily loaded with drugs.
In a kind of state of shock. Stunned.
This guy is finished and he knows it. He is scared.
Sure Nepal did not deserve to have such a mock monarch.
Seshyan Nepal, I totes agree. The king is necessary for the cohesion of all BAHULA kajis in the country. They’re all his ministers and his cronies right now.
Few moments ago there was agony and anger while watching the scenes in the tv. Now it is time to think with a cool mind what needs to be done. What the words of KG mean.
For me KG is a bloody maniac and should be removed otherwise we will have to through the same process again. Of course at that time the killings and pain would be much more serious.
The answer is very clear constituent assembly. I hope in case SPA guys can come up with the agenda which should be made public. Not too worded plian language. My view are:
1)Constituent assembly for new constitution
2) Referendum on the need of constitutional monarch or republic straight front no politicking in this issue.
3)Prime minister cannnot be for more than two terms.
Any suggestions to put more
I tend to agree with Bahula kaji. The movement has not been as successful as it should have been given the costs we have incurred so far including the lives of more than 10 people.
We seriously need to think of alternatives and not just further intensify the hardship faced by the ordinary citizens. How can you live without earning for half a month when you used to earn on a daily basis for your meal.
This is a pretty tough scenario. We need to think more for alternatives.
The thing now for SPA is to recommend a PM who will then form a caretaker government lead by someone with integrity and public respect. The biggest challenge will obviously be to bring the Maoists to the mainstream.
I personally think that Paraksh Man Singh would be an excellent candidate!
Whover it is, GIRIJA PRASAD SHOULD NOT BE THE NEXT PRIME MINISTER.
GIRIJA PRASAD IS THE MAN BEHIND THE REASON DEMOCRACY FAILED IN COUNTRY.
HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR NEPTISM, CORRUPTION AND GANSTERISM AND RIOTISM.
HE WAS THE REASON PARTY BROKE UP. HE PLOTTED CORRUPT GAME AGAINST HIS OWN PARTY’S PRIME MINISTERS SEVERAL TIMES.
GIRJA FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL SHOULD GIVE UP HIS OBSESSION FOR POWER.
This country will be divided into Baishe and Chaubishe Rajyas as it was before King Prithvi Narayan Shah united Nepal. Food for thought, fellas!
I heard that Girija Prasad is again playing his dirty games.
IN REALITY, SHER BAHADUR IS THE LAST PM ELECTED BY THE PARLIAMENT SO HE SHOULD BE REINSTATED AS THE PRIME MINISTER.
GIRIJA SHOULD SUPPORT SHER BAHADUR AS HIS NEW LEADER.
Seshan Nepal,
Just get out of here and write on your own blog. Go. Call it Gyanendra’s Chamchas or ‘Idiot Royalists living in the 21st century who still think its the 19th century’ or something. Find something to do and leave us the heck alone.
There’s this fellow blogdai who’s more your type. Go there. Don’t piss us off with your stupidity.
Hari Sharma People like u are not in AAndolan but prefer to run out of country, so AAndolan is not successful
why donot u understand?
Anndolan is very much successful and it will be more successful in coming days
Parties should not be fooled by King’s speech
Gantantra is minimum meeting point.
I totally agree with Seshyan Nepal and Peace
Prakash Man Singh is the right candidate.
Girija -TOtal Failure multiple times.
Deuba-TOtal Failure multiple times.
Makune- Another example of total failure.
We also don’t want Padma Ratna he is total useless always changing his position to adjust.
In last parliament election HE LOST by lots of difference in KTM. People of KTM don’t want him though he is NEWAR.
As somebody stated earlier, Bhudai Pundit has been hired by some Koirala-congressi to just blow trumpte about Girija and post comments against Sher Bahadur Deuba.
How can a person such as Sher Bahadur Deuba who came from the remotest area of Nepal, suffered for years in struggle for democracy during Panchayat regime, was jailed for more than seven years, was able to win most of the seats from Sudur Pachim for Nepali Congress and who dared to break away from the corrupt tyranny of Girija Prasad be abused by somebody called Bhudai Pundit and Melissa from out of Nepal. I think we should not allow Nepalese people to be called spineless.
Seshyan is afraid : he’ll lose his job very soon ! No more rupees from KK…
This country will be divided into Baishe and Chaubishe Rajyas as it was before King Prithvi Narayan Shah united Nepal. Food for thought, fellas!
Uf, Paras, you don’t have to take a pseudonym and try to convince us that your daddy’s the best dude for the job.
No, seriously though, why do you say that? Do you really think the people of Nepal are that stupid?
Because I don’t. I don’t think ethnicity divides anyone anymore. As long as they’re not like Gyanendra, who’s mother and father were cousins :S and his own wife was his cousin :S
hahaha ..prakash man singh re… he is a dumbo..the only nobel human being to come out of his family was ganesh man singh..who i belive is the greatest martyr of this country..others like PL Singh who was the mayor of ktm..i dont think they were that impressive am not sayin they were bad..but u know..and i know a bunch of fellas from that ..singh family…dont like any of them..hope u arent of them ..
no! w..wait it’s not that am i in favor of more blood or happy by this void of peace. I’m only trying to draw ur attention towards the decade long struggle of maoists and the reason for which they should reconcile or concede their armed strifle. Yes, sooner or later they have to and they will of course lay down their arms but do u think it is ok if they easily cease their long walk of peoples’ war for something like coalition government under the king’s regime. Won’t they be cursed by the martyrs of people’s war(including the security forces as well)?? So, the mere solution is a REPUBLIC government. Anything less than this will not be acceptable and should never be.
Just a while ago, I happened to listen to the brief interview by K.B. mahara. he’s said the king’s speech is another form of ‘traditional royal treachery’ and they won’t reconcile until king addresses at minimum Constitution assembly which is the demand of people.
some one tell me what a Constitutional Assembly is ??? how is that different from the last one we had just before it was dissolved?
>Untill few months back, there used to be a stalemate between the King and
>the Maoists.
>
>The Maoists have taken over many places in Nepal, but their revolution is
>not successful until they take over the capital.
>
>They could not possibly take over the capital because of the Army. The Army
>is under the kings control and it is impossible for the Maoists to fight
>the Kings Army in the capital.
>
>SCENE IN THE CAPITAL:
>The democratic parties have a lot of supporters and say in the capital BUT
>they are not strong enough to overthrow the King.
>
>THE MAOIST STRATEGY:
>Using the Democratic Parties as a pawn in their greater scheme of things,
>the Maoist incite the Democratic Parties to call strikes and large
>processions, whereby they infiltrate the crowds and force the Kings govt.
>to attack the public.
>
>THE GENERAL CONSENSUS:
>The general public believes that the King is corrupt and not a good ruler.
>So they only need some inciting before they go out in the streets. Once the
>general consensus is now to get rid of the King who has unjustly killed off
>peaceful demonstrators and innocent people.
>
>THE AFTERMATH:
>The wrath of the crowd in Kathmandu Valley is enough to overthrow the king.
>The king gets thrown out/killed. The Democratic Parties celebrate for a
>short time before they start feeling the pressure of the Maoists from all
>sides of the capital.
>
>Without the Army being controlled by one point of reference, no one can
>stop the Maoists from taking control of the capital.
>
>THE STRATEGY IS WORKING:
>What we need to decide right now is do we want the Maoist to rule us or the
>King? The
>democratic party are just wishful thinkers who wish for a utopia but will
>fail miserably as soon as their fight is over.
>
>WE THE COMMONERS:
>We need to see beyond the current situation in Nepal and decide for
>ourselves if Maoists Rule is what we want. If that is the case, we need to
>go ahead and support the Democratic Party in the street to topple the King.
>As soon as the King is toppled, these Democratic Parties will be swatted
>off like flies by the Maoist guns.
>
>Although democracy is something to die for, the consequent Maoist rule
>would be such an unfortunate irony for the deaths of thousands who are
>seeking democracy.
>
>
>Crush! Zap! Destroy! Junk e-mail trembles
Its not worth arguing with Seshan Nepal. Lets all collect money and buy him a time machine and blast him back to the 17th century.
He’ll love it.
now whats all this fuss about. king has given the power back to people and has asked to name the prime minister. its the SPA leader’s job to recommend whatever they like. e.g. reinstatement of parliament and even constituient assembly. what the hell SPA leaders’ looking for? they need to come out of room and do something for their own. they can not expect all the work to be done by people on street and king.
PARLIAMENT INCLUDING GIRIJA PARSAD KOIRALA HAD ELECTED SHER BAHADUR DEUBA, SO HE SHOULD BE THE NEXT PRIME MINISTER HOWEVER HE SHOULD NOT INCLUDE CORRUPT PEOPLE IN THE CABINET.
THIS TIME NO CORRUPT PEOPLE SHOULD BE BROUGHT IN CABINET. ITS BETTER TO BRING TOTALLY NEW FACES. THOSE WHO WERE MINISTERS IN THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN CURRENT CABINET.
Good idea, Manan,
But sould we build this time machine with or without MB’s ?
Peace:
I completly agree that Girija was a totally failure and he was currupt etc. But who else do we have right now thats a better alternative?
Cyp and Manan,
If you had time machine then make sure to remove Girija from Politics. He should be given a post of a HAWALDAR IN INDIAN POLICE and he would have been happy to be a hawaldar for his whole life.
Without MBs. The two belong to different eras. MBs belong to the 1940s and 1950s. Wheras Sehsyan Nepal belongs wholly to the 18th century.
There’s a famous saying “A bad government is elected by good people who do not vote in elections”. The vacuum created by absence of good people is occupied by bad elements.
i guess that why we are facing this day today
Well, well… Girija being already dehydrated, I would just wrapp him in coton, and expose him in a museum, preferably in Egypt, as they love mummies there…
OK, I shut up now, because I guess you must have more serious subjects to talk about…
Seshyan Nepali, you are right to mentio Yugoslavia. But that holds true for any former communist country that broke apart. Look at the former states of the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, just two for starters. Yes, the King is the only thing binding Nepalese. It is clear just from reading blogs like this and having lived and worked in Nepal for many years (i’m in the states now) that Nepalese of different ethnic groups and castes can’t stand each other! Read this blog and it is obvious. the talk is not of uniting but of seperating…
So in that sense it is good the King stays in power…but he has shown his true colors, and if he can do this once, he can do it again. He has not given up his control. And god help us when he dies and PARAS IS KING. Remember, most members of his family don’t live beyond their late 60’s (and I’m not talking about the royal massacre, just in general)
Again the dictator king is trying to fool us. Remember - one cant fool all the people all the time. He had repeatedly commandated SPA for commonly agreed PM in the past after saking and reapoinint then Deuba led government. His rhetoric like -’we are committed to multiparty democracy and constitutinal monarchy” is nothing new but a cunning strategy to put water on buring public fire that is about burn him and his institution alive. No matter what US, India, EU and others say, we should not agree for less than - all party government to hold the constitutional assemply election - we will draw our future and decide on his fate. The auticratic regime and the Maoist alike claim to have public support, let see what Nepali people really want - constitutiona monarch, community republic or democratic republic. With fair election, I gaurantee “democratic repulic of Nepal” will triamph. If the Girija and his gang are lured to the post of PM and be king’s toys, we should be ready to punish them - this no excure - they have done enogh damage for the last 14 years, which brought this situation. Girija, Deuwa, shoudl not be PM at any cost unless we want to ruin our country for good. We have to find ways to bring honest and younger generatins leaders and the majority of Maoists into political mainstream. We will definately achieve peace and progress without King but not without brining the Maoist into political mainstream. the King has finally listened to US and India who want to have pappet government in Nepal, and undermine the Maoist cause. I grongly deplore the Maosit regime but dont see anyway out without have negotiated settlement with them -after all they are like us Nepalis and their fight for casue is genuine despite the means are totally brutal and often inhuman.
Long live democracy. Down with royal regime and the Maoist brutality.
we shoudl now look for a peaceful transition rathar than opting for the path of destruction. The king finally accepted that he was unable to restore peace. He has handed over power to the people, the power that was handed over to him by our own men.
This is positive.
Even if we want to remove the king it can be done slowly by empowering the people by conducting an election which must be participated by the Maoists as well. The country is in a preacrious position so all should think positively rahter than showing dissent. May peace be restored in Nepal.
IN THE MORNING… THE MORE THAN 1 MILLION NEPALIES WHO HAVE DEMONSTRATED FOR DEMOCRACY, WILL GIVE THEIR ANSWER..
AN ANSWER BEYOND THE PARTIES….. SO WE SHALL SLEEP AND SEE WHAT THE CROWS TELL US WHEN THE SUN COMES UP……………
Seriously, I think Seshan’s Gyane himself.
IN THE MORNING MORE THAN 1 MILLION NEPALIES WILL GIVE THEIR ANSWER..
AN ANSWER BEYOND THE PARTIES….. SO WE SHALL SLEEP AND SEE WHAT THE CROWS TELL US WHEN THE SUN COMES UP……………
My initial, knee-jerk reaction was - what?! ok, maybe what he’s saying is basically good..but this is too little, way too late.
Then I thought, and talked to people.
My two cents: in some ways, this is too little. Not accepting responsibility for your own actions, KG? Just saying that the 7-PA needs to thrash out a candidate for PM, and until then, maintaining status quo? But in other ways, this is not too little. It is up to the parties to sit, work, and figure out what they want *in concrete terms*. Loktantra - yes, naturally. But what concrete, physical changes will they create? I have faith in the political parties - as do, I think, the hundreds of thousands who have come out on the streets - and obviously they deserve time to think and plan, but they need to decide and act soon. Saying, on BBC Chautari, that the andolan will continue seems to me an immature reaction.
We need changes that will tie the king up, so he can’t create mischief and do again what he has tried to do.
We need changes that will get rid of the discrimination and corruption that plagues our state.
We need…change.
Right now, the people best able to create this change is the political parties. “KG is a thief, and this is not enough” trips off the tongue quite easily, but…what would happen, say, if the 7-PA sat all day tomorrow to reach a consensus on a person to name PM? And then, if the king was obviously still unwilling to do as he “promised” today, and “give back power to the people”, then we get back on the streets, and kick him out, once and for all.
(As someone just said: now is the time to work.)
Cyp: Why don’t you shut up permanently. Your loud foreign mouth and looser mentality has had its fill.
And ILOVEMYCOUNTRY is also right. what he says is exactly what the American Ambassador has feared all along and why the US supported the king returning to his role as a constituational monarch. The Maoists have been left out of the equation in this discussion. They are not stupid, either, and they have had a clear cut strategy in all of this…ILOVEMYCOUNTRY seems to be one of the few who gets this scenario that may well unfold soon…
Goodness me! I actually agree with Coke for the first time…
Seems like this is the place for me. I sell time machines (thought somebody wanted that).
a couple things, though, that definitely need sorting out:
*the army. An army that ignores the will of the people, repeatedly, is an army that needs to change.
*accountability: those whose actions led to the deaths of people over the past weeks of protest MUST be held accountable for their actions.
*the Maoist reaction.
Bhudai Pundit,
Of course, its not the matter of who I like or who like. Its the question of who was elected by Nepalese people and thier representatives in the Parliament.
Whether you like it or not, SHER BAHADUR DEUBA WAS ELECTED BY PARLIAMENT AS THE PRIME MINISTER, WHICH STILL MAKES HIM THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRIME MINISTER AS THERE HAS BEEN NO ELECTION OR PROCESS IN PARLIAMENT TO CHOOSE THE PRIME MINISTER.
IF YOU ARE AWARE, EVEN GIRIJA PRASAD AND NEPALI CONGRESS had accepted that Sher Bahadur should be reinstated provided he recommends for reinstatement of house of representative.
Sher Bahadur refused this condition at that time (2 years ago), however in current situation he might agree to that as well.
Moreover, Madhav Kumar Nepal, General Secretary of UML has also openly commented in the past that SHER BAHADUR SHOULD BE REINSTATED AS Prime Minster.
Let us not forget things in retrospect, otherwise we will have every tom, dick and harry wanting to be Prime Minister. If we want country to go back on track then let us correct REGRESSION and reinstate peoples elected PM.
HAVING SHER BAHADUR AS A PM is a must as HE IS THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRIME MINISTER AND ONLY HE WILL HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO MOVE THE COUNTRY AHEAD.
THINGS LIKE HOLDING NEXT ELECTION AND REINSTATEMENT OF PARLIMENT CAN ONLY BE POSSIBLE VIA A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRIME MINSTER.
ANYBODY ELSE WOULD BE JUST ANOTHER FACE CHOSEN BY KING.
Loktantra jindabad… hami lai thagna payeendaina…
for recored audio of Mr. KG’s vasan click here:
http://www.nepalisongs.info
Hi SN, your king is stoned, but you rely on amphetamines… don’t be so stressed, it’s bad for health.
Bye, sweet subject.
There are some chamchas of sher bahadur here are writing Sher Bahudur should be the PM. I tell them Fuuuk up. He is the one who handed over the democracy to the King. Now many people had to lay down their lives and it was so much of hardships to bring back. He doesnot hve any brain in his skull. he is a robot in Daura Suruwa. he will again give the democracy to the King by having three pegs of Whisky.
micheal,
you dont mean the everything should be decided by people on street, do you?
yes there is more than million people on the ring road and they have said what they want. let the SPA decide the rest including the reinstatement of parliament and CA. it is already in third week and i dont how long the common people is going to take it.
To MR. ‘I love my country’: please don’t use the decent and patriotic alias when u appear to be just on the contrary to it.
You’ve shown ur ardent support for the king in a very latent and skilful manner. What do u think, people are still morons that they get beguiled by pretentious reactionary royal stalwarts like u? No way, Republic is inevitable despite ur wily maneuvers.
I Love My Country:
I don’t think your analysis is correct. I can understand your reluctance to beleive the Maoists but I don’t think things are as simple as you put it. The Maoists are not completly oblivious or stupid. They have seen the power of the people in the last few weeks… A military take over by the Maoist will never happen and they realize that. Firstly they would have to defeat the RNA and India would send troops if the Maoist were to take over by force.. I think the Maoist have long realized that a negotiated settlement is the only way out. They have changed their stance on the Monarch issue and they called for a ceasefire before.
The main concern right now is to find a way to bring them into the political arena…
Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely
We should form a strong group of young people like Shivsena in India (not for religion) that can really take care of any Leader that will try to be greedy and repeat post 2046 history. We should really take care of them in anyways we can even if it means…. We need to bring this beautiful country back it track. Can’t let King or leaders drag us to past..
Choppers can be good time machines.
Just fill the tank with a mixture of gun powder and kerosene…
Hi All,
The lates from Nepal is that either GIRIJA or Krishna Prasad will be next PM.
I would support Krishna Prasad instead of Girija.
I still think Sher Bahadur is the better option.
Sher Badhur is an IDIOT. Did you forget that this fool was the one who dissolved parliment at the recommendation of the King? Did you forget Sher Badhur ignored the Maoist in the begining when Baburam wanted to talk he brushed them aside and went to Delhi.
He has realtions with the royal family and you think he is a good choice?
Why only you guys are repeately posting your comments and my comments are not posted? Strange
Friends,
Let us not use abuse language here.
I had been watching the comment of somebody called Layman, who either uses RACIST COMMENTS or USES ABUSIVE language.
Let us have some wisdom here.
LAYMAN is representing his sad heritage here.
Cyp: My friend don’t blow up yourself in the process!
Long live Democray. Who is next PM - sure they will fight for it.
well for many blogger, time is to talk about the next prime minister and other portfolios. it seems that the shaha king’s Gurkha Appeal has worked again, seems it go down well among many. to remaind, it worked well back in 1990. what happened afterward is we well know. do not go for ‘gurkha appeal’ and wait for another jana andolan part 3.
Bhudai Punditji,
If we talk about mistkes, I can give you lot more reasons about Girija Babu’s Mistakes.
Let us not forget how Girija Babu started this whole game of dissolving the parliament way back in 2051.
I think I agree to your point that there should be some sort of reconciliation. Thus, Sher Bahadur is the right choice. Moreover, I will have to tell you that Sher Bahadur is not related in any way to Durbar, except that his wife came from a Rana family.
Otherwise it wont be long before this angry mob in Nepal turns the country to anarchy.
I don kw what does the king thinks he is, but he surely thinks that he will decieve people once more.. OOOO god!! May his Pashupatinath will save him nowwwwwwwww.. but we can’t.. Bye to our King…
This is the long awaited moment of our history and we must not let go. Struck the iron when it is hot.
Gyane is a cobra: feed him milk, he will make poison of it and sting you back.
No body bestows power like offering of flowers to Pashupatinath; we must snatch our sovereignty from the cobra.
If he can drink the blood of his family, his own blood; our blood is like a goat’s blood for him.
Let people march towards Narayanhiti. One more blow folks! He will be out.
Constitution should be written this way:
We the sovereign people of Nepal have written our constitution for our…….
Not like “sambhidan jari gari bakseka chhaun…”
Bhudai Punditji,
Moreover, lets put words like idiot aside. You seem to be a democrat and I can see that u are concrened about your country and seem to be commenting here often.
However, if you use words like “IDIOT” to abuse anybody in such forums, it just shows ur own immaturity.
It has already been proved that going back before Ashoj tantra is not enough. This is not the time to listen what king says because he is still head of army. Think that cat is telling the rats that he is not eating them(rat) anymore. If the rats believe on him(the cat), how foolish they will be. Should the cat not be in the cage at first. Will the people be soverein as the king says? Is it that easy? How about Rayal Nepal army? King is dreaming to see SPA fighting for PM post. Do SPA leaders know this? Was this fighting for to gat back the situation before Asoj? Was everything good before Asoj? How are you going to tackle the situation, SPA? Go, if you can do something?
guys,fill me up in this:
constitution assembly means a step to review n mend the present constituition,rite?!
I have never seen bigger hypocrites as I have seen in this site. Those to claim to be the biggest supporter of democracy shout the loudest when they hear a version agaisnt their own. Democracy also means - freedom of expression. You should all name this blog as the KG haters rather than democracy lovers.
oh am so glad.. this dead lock has finally been broken..now i can go back to durbar marg and can have my favourite ice cream sundae again..and sandwiches and. i was running out of stock of my choclates.. whew…
man this 15 day thing sure made me hungry
Sher Bahadur under the order of the King dissolved the Parliament. He even never thought of consulting his senior cabinet members. He went to the Palace and he was offered some pegs of whisky by this chanakya King. Deuba signes the paper dissolving the Parliament of 205 memebers. I do not have to tell you how poor we are as a country and how much money is spent to have elections. How many people have to work for the conduct of elections successful.This guy Deuba dissolved in awhsky sitting with King. Thats why Ram Sharan caught his neck at the Indain ambassdor’s residnece during a dinner. I am surprised to have such aleader in our country and his supportes.Whats the hell that our political system has produced such a leader during the early 12 years of so called democracy.Thats why I call him a robot in Daura Suruwal.
First of to this seshyan guy….YOU ARE THE DUMBEST OF THE DUMBS…CONFUSED OF THE CONFUSED FOOLS THAT WRITES IN THIS BLOG…You still think Prithvi Narayan thought of making a country called Nepal while he was trying to expand his border anywhere he could? He didn’t even finished the expansion..his son Bahadur Shah is equally respectfull enoug if u respect any shahs at all in the expasion. And you royalist who always ask people why don’t you talk about maoist violence…I want to ask you people why don’t you talk about your great kings pratap sing, rana bahadur, surendra, rajendra…their bahaduris…and why not about girwan…he was the one who accepted the treaty with the english in such a pathetic manner…amar sing went to gosaikunda because he has asked for more time to fight with the english…why don’t u’re ’sign of integerity of nepal’ accepted the proposal…at least it would have been better to die of fighting as long as we could with the english then to be so weakless to the english and now indians…at first the english always interfered in our internal policies..just read some history books from some indpendent writers..and now it’s the indians…u’re ‘patriotic’ king didn’t listened to his own people’s cry for freedom but when an indian arrived and asked him what to do…he did just that….it shows how desbhakta he is….u morons….some of u show absolute lack of political knowledge….some of you are drive by the hatred against some bunch of choors…and some of u just fear to accept the truth as it is and should be….people who thought well king might be needed are disgusted by this….he just wants to ease of some international pressure…now he can say to the foreigner that he so graciously asked the parties to come ‘with’ him…..but when they didn’t come i have no choice…so please help me…send me guns…send me bullets…i will then kill all the maoist and everything will be solved…..and india is already showing sign to support this…they always play here and it’s so easy to play with a tyrant who had almost no option…it wouldn’t be wonder if he does some treaty on water resource….coz india desperately needs that and look at all the treaties between nepal and india and see how easy it is to steal it from someone who is desperate to save his throne?….and what kind of power he gave back are u talking about huh???it’s something janta ko naso janata lai nai firta diye re…that means he stole it once…he still have the power to still it twice….but enough is enough now….he don’t want to adress to the people..he just wants to ease of the pressure little bit….that will the worst thing to happen…so guys let’s not stop going to the street…until and unless there is CA without any condition…no stoppage to the aandolan…doesn’t matter if no country supports us…COZ WE THE PEOPLE MUST RELY ON EACH OTHER…THAT WILL BE THE GREATEST PATRIOTISM…THAT WILL TEACH THESE LEADERS TO RELY ON THEIR PEOPLE NOT SOME FREAKING FOREIGNERS….otherwise….we will have to wait for our sons to bring our total rights backs to us…and to those who think this is a good way to goto CA…gosh have u ever read this nations’ constitution….there are some things called unchangeable…….the supreme court can easily dissolve things like that as that’s against the law…….it’s just out of the question……..
That’s a pretty good analogy Mukti Aryal. I can totally see Gyanendra looking like one of those chubby lazy cats who sleeps all day and expects to get food for doing nothing. Like some people on welfare, ‘I don’t want to work, but I want free money.’
I saw him on BBC again, and he’s definitely stoned. Not drunk, but stoned like he took too many anti-anxiety tranquilizers.
I hope the people don’t let go of this moment and take the power back. ;)At least we know he’s already on anxiety meds.
And please lets not try to corner KG too much or else the purring cat will scratch.
1. Yesterday King said “I have taken the power in my hand”
2. Today he said “ I am giving back it to people”
3. Is there any guarantee that he will not say “I am again taking back my power” Because this coming government will be hanging on the air. He may easily kick that government out of his way as he did to Sher Bahadur Deuba.
4. Suppose, the Interim government will go for election of Constituent Assembly, will he agree?? I think he will again use Article 127 to take power in his hand.
5. From the past experience we have known him as a great liar and use to do just opposite of what he says.
6. Otherwise UN should play a mediator role until the election of constituent assembly.
Guys you all are whinnying for nothing. These politicians are bunch of shit heads you don’t know what they will do once they get the PM post. Who screwed up everything after the democracy? Who created Maoist problem..THINK THINK …people.
What will happen is next 10 more years of musical chair of PM and after that again King will take the power. This will never end unless we shoot all the old fart politicians first.
We Nepalese tend to forget even what happened yesterday. We never learnt anything from our past mistakes. That why we are doomed always to a failure. So this deuba is dangerous for the future of Loktantra in nepal. I know that some good paople are behind him but they are only there to oppose the dictorship of Girija in the original congress.These peole aere only behind him to have the Ministership and the posts of money.
I cant understand why some of our nepalese bhai dont accept with this address. All nepalese knows that these politician looted nepal and then king got chance to loot as well. If politinal parties are now true to Nepalese people then why they worry that king will take power again. If they do good who the hell can take power from them. I think political parties are still not confident whether they can do good for the country.
Hell with these politician and their supporter in this matter
simrik up yours, we shout the loudest against those kinds, i.e. like you, who spray bullets to silence the voice.
yo desh ma kehi hune bala chaina…pheri yeuta
thotre budho PM,tehi corruption,india ko “hepai” ani after sum years the king’ll take power again n the same thing over n over..
i’v given up my dreams for the republic nepal,
call me pessimist or watever but this is wat i feel n i choose to say it loud..
We must not accept anything less than an interim govt. followed by a constituent assembly. Political parties beware - if you show your greedy side and fight again, we will strip you naked, make you walk in the road in broad daylight and then hang you one by one in ratna park. Girija, Makune and Deuba - beware especially the 3 of you.
Admin please start new topic for discussion what political parties are saying with their views and what janata are doing on the streets. Here is crowd of opinion and it will be very difficult to read when it crosses 100. It will be easier to read and comment when there is another topic. Guys keep on watching merosansar.com .np also. worth of reading Nepali Blog.(it’s not advertisement just info for those who want to know live updates.) I am posting my request again. Please owners and bloggers, Give space for comments starting new topic. It is heavily crowded here.
‘Hami bahadur chhoun tara buddhu chhoun’-Bhupi Sherchan
It is a pity that god forgot to give us enough wisdom. That is why we are either ‘kanchha’ or ‘bahadur’ in india or ‘mercenery gurkhas’ elsewhere. Perhaps we have no brain to solve any problems so foreigners should show us the way.
Recently, king admitted his failure to resolve the national issues hence gave up his power. Obviously the ball is at the court of SPA now. Some MAI KA LAL should have enough courage to come forward to become prime minister and handle the situation towards addressing the problems in the country.
No more street-demos please! Now enough.
I propose any of Dr. Ram Sharan Mahat/Subash Nembang/Narayanman Bijukchhe/Devendra raj Pandey or some other capable personalities to come forward as PM candidate to save the nation from disaster.
No Sher Bahadur Deuba please… he was the one who was hungry for power the last 2 times. First, he dismissed the parliament knowing that the election was not possible… his intention was similar to Gyane’s to hang on to the power in the name of Maoist & terrorism… he even dismissed the local elected government when their time was up. Second, when Gyane was about to hand over the power to parties 2 years back after trying Chand and Thapa he wanted the PM seat so badly that he did not bother taking the blessings from all other major players who were fighting for the democracy.
I am sure SPA can come up with a single name this time but, is this enough or should we go for more so that we don’t have to fight again in the future??? Why was Gyane and his so called advisors still wanted to play divide and rule game till yesterday by offering the PM seat to Bhattarai??? What does the article 35 say??? Can the new PM reinstate the disolved parliament??? How will the maoist be brought to political process???
There are many questions to be answered before deciding the PM… don’t just jump into fire yet.
UWB TEAM,
I OBJECT YOUR HEADLINES ITSELF, CALLING THE ROYAL MESSAGE AS ‘DECEPTIVE’. IF IT IS, THEN WHY U THINK IT IS NEEDED FOR DISCUSSION ANY MORE? BEFORE, U PEOPLE USED TO CALL KING’S SILENCE AS ‘DECEPTIVE’. NOW AT LEAST HE OPENED THE DOOR AND STILL YOU ARE SAYING THE SAME. EVEN IF KING CUTS HIS THROAT BY HIMSELF, YOU WILL START TO SAY HE IS DECEIVING!
WHAT AN ATTITUDE!! SEEMS U PEOPLE LACK SELF CONFIDENCE AND R FULL OF INFERIORITY COMPLEX!!
Ram Sharan is the most corrupt politician out there. I am surprised that anyone would recommend his name. He illegally made millions while he was the Finance Minister for years. This guy should be behind bars for alll his crimes. He will sell this country to the higest bidder.
Common, any one but Sher Bahadur. Some fresh face would be nice but even Girija or Makune will be better than Sher Bahadur. He is too gullible. If he could be fooled twice, he could be easily fooled again.
I think Sher Bahaudur has done most damage to democracy in Nepal after King G (even more than Girija).
1. Deuba failed to conduct local elections
2. Deuba dismissed the parliament causing all this mess. I wonder who incited him to do this.
3. Deuba started the Pajero culture of the MP’s.
4. Deuba played all the dirty games to prolong his Govt. including sending MP’s Bangkok and so on.
5. Many corrupts from Congress like Khum Bdr, Chiranjibi Wagle joined his party, but Deuba never dared to speak or do anything against them.
6. Deuba did not warn the public about King dismissing him the second time.
4. Deuba divided Congress party due to his ego.
Peace:
I was not calling anyone here an idiot. I was calling Deuba an idiot and quiet frankly I think idiot is tooooo much of a compliment for him. Yes he may not be related to the Royal family but his wife certainly has close relations with the palace. Moreover, it is common knowledge that his wife is the brains behind Deuba’s operations… since the man is (sorry but I have not other word) an IDIOT.
I see Gagan Thapa as a promising leader for the future. However, the problem now is that the political leaders are not going to step down or move aside. Especially now they will claim they have struggled for democracy etc. So for the time being we don’t have any other choice but to put up with the Girija et al.
Given the choice: Girija, Deuba and Mukune I have to go with Girija. He is the only one who will stand up to the king… besides he is 84 so I can’t imagine he has any long term ambition. I also think people are more aware and empowered so if his spawn Sujata Koirala tries to take advantage of the situation we can lynch her in public.
Fck you Indians!!!
You dhitis are trying to help the KG make trap i really pray Bin Laden kills you all!!!
RSS go back to your mosque and pray. It is already too crowded here.
Kalupande:
I agree the heading is not entirely appropriate. Other website have a differnt heading which give a completly different meaning.
Hellow:
As you can tell I don’t like Deuba but I disagree with some of your reasoning. The congress party being split has more to do with Girija’s ego.
There were many currupt under Girija as well. Sujata Koirala made a fortune and she was the most dispicable, lunatic person. Besides did you forget the Lauda case? I don’t think you can compare the political leaders using curruption as the basis… they were all currupt!
NO REPUBLIC. THE SILENT PUBLIC DOES NOT WANT REPUBLIC. THEY WANT RULE OF LAW, PEACE AND STABITY TO GO BACK TO THEIR LIVES.
Hey guys its really funny u know if we had TIME MACHING we would do this and that all.
You know what would be the great thing to do if we had time machine. WE wouldn’t let Girijas parents have sex then there will be no girija hehehehe
KALUPANDE, MY BRETHREN, YOU THE MAN! Tell these LOOSERS THAT THEY NEED TO UNBURY THEIR HEADS FROM THE SAND AND SEE THE LIGHT!
TAKE THE OPORTUNITY WHILE IT IS STILL IN OFFER AND FORM A GOVERNMENT AND BRING LAW AND ORDER BACK INTO THIS COUNTRY.
Don’t relax yet!!!
Keep up the pressure on the parasite till he’s gone.
As long as he’s around there’s always the danger of him setting up as a dictator again. And don’t forget the son…….a lovely thought eh? a dictatorial dynasty.
I for one think this proclamation came as the king was weary of losing his position. Let us not call it deceptive or a treacheary because we can.You can see from his nervous speech that he might be serious.It is peoples power and we the people are not going to be stopped by guns..We do not like what the king did, but it is a “BS” calling it a treachery just because one is enraged. Can the SPA come up with a consensus for the candidacy? The parties have time and again betrayed us too…My word to the SPA..come up with a consensus, show us that you really believe in the people and not work for just yourshelves..For me as until now…King and the Parties..you are no different.
Just remove the “NOT”s and you will be more accurate, SN…
KK : 0 - Nepal : 1
Nepal lost
Comments by SN
deuba is a verrrrrrrrrry WRONG choice for PM
cause he’s just a puppet of the palace,the guy has no moral and ground of his own,he falls on the feet of KG now n again for the greed of PMship,..and hav u heard him speak,first of all,he sounds funny and when all the SPA wer deciding whether they wer all for const. monarchy or gadatantra,he jus said nth!
he’s a joke n we surely do not want a clown u there,LOL!!
Is there any formal reaction from SPA or Maoists ? Just saw in TV that outside Kathmandu, people are protesting against the royal address and are still violent. Didn’t Karan Singh inform SPA leaders about this decision beforehand , then why are they still acting like they’ve been taken as surprise.
I hope they will come out with something soon.
as we all know this is insufficient but the post may be sufficient for GKP….
so we shud be ready to put em 6ft up or 6ft below the ground if they jus defied the blood given by our fellow freedom martyrs in these days… so as roshan found,if GKP tries some deviated things(which is usual for him), this movt. shudn stop and wont stop…
hey seshyan, I live in a country with no king and which is a republic (its called the republic of Ireland) and surprise surprise!! we have laws and in fact have more peace and stability than you have in your ‘kingdom’…….
we left your flavour of feudalism behind when we separated ourselves from the king of england 90 years ago, and yes it took a bit of agitation because these ‘royals’ don’t like to let go
Political parties do no have the guts and roadmap. And they cant handle the immense burden of responsibility once they are in power.
it seems that the shaha king’s Gurkha Appeal has worked again. it seems that this ‘gurkha pride’ went down well among many. to remaind you all, it worked well back in 1990. what happened afterward that is we all know. do not go for ‘Gurkha Appeal’ and wait for another jana andolan part 3.
Hey bogman
Though you are in republic of Ireland you don’t have Royals since past 90 year.
But for peace how long you have to fight.
How many people IRA have killed in UK?
You have peace since past few years only.
WE don’t want to be under like for 100 yrs.
THOSE WHO ALL DISCUSSING ABOUT THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE POST PM ARE ALL FOOLS CREATED BY GK
this isnot the time we shud think of PM..
if we get a PM from SPA or anywhere as long as its appointed by KG we in no way shud accept it…
pahile hamile maobadi lai sametne sambidhan sabha ko assurance paunuparcha
ek chhoti mb lai ppls front ma laye pacchi we cant afford to lose them again.. til mb arent addressed any prob in our country cant be addressed…. so rather than sayin why GKP or MaKuNe or DEuba or Prakash Man, we shud carry on our protest..
and seshyan ji tapai jasto manis ko naya nepal ma thau chaina so yedi ahileko nepal ma tapai ko kehi saman chhan bhane kumlokutiro badhera niklihalnus
hoina bhane naya nepal lo lagi chahine naya attitude ko bikas garnus…
Have Nepali people got what they deserve?
- mp
So the stubborn king finally cracked OR has he? The latter is the question every Nepali should be asking at this moment in our country’s ever-changing political horizon - especially by those who have taken to the streets during the last 16 days or so against the king’s autocratic regime. Have you really got what you deserve?
The answer has to be a big NO. Of course you haven’t got what you deserve. Have you got “loktantra” as you have been demanding over the course of these demonstrations? Have you even got a constituent assembly? Have you - the people - actually got power as the king was saying he was going to give you? NO, NO, NO. People, you have got nothing so far. The royal proclamation tonight was nothing more than a ploy to divide SPA (and SPA-Maoist alliance). The king’s action of asking SPA to nominate a PM to form an all-party government under Article 35 of 1990 constitution, is more synonymous to throwing some pieces of bones to his pet dogs than a genuine gesture towards solving the present crisis. Whether the dogs fight over those pieces of bones is another matter altogether. What is clear, however, is that Gyanendra still wants a piece of bone himself. This much is clear from the Article 35 of 1990 constitution he has cited. Although we can by now safely say that the 1990 constitution has become defunct (otherwise we shouldn’t be demanding a constituent assembly to draw up another constitution OR revise the present one), let us remind what that Article 35 states. The first point in this article should suffice on why this proclamation is just a ploy and not a genuine gesture towards reconciliation. So here it goes:
Article 35 (1) The executive power of the Kingdom of Nepal shall, pursuant to this Constitution and other laws, be vested in His Majesty and the Council of Ministers.
So people, is this what you have been demanding for the past 16 days - even not caring for your life? Is this proclamation by Gyanendra after all these days worth the sacrifice of so many people who have taken up bullets and batons? Just remember one of your comrades - Basu Ghimire - who was brutally killed yesterday and then hastily cremated today even without his parents’ presence. Is this proclamation even worth Basu’s life? The answer again has to be a big NO. How can Gyanendra so easily declare that he has given the power back to the people, as if us - the people - were just his subjects, his slaves with whose lives he can play whenever he wants? Your lives, our lives are worth lot more that this deceptive proclamation, and remember you don’t get power by spreading hands in front of the autocrats like Gyanendra, you have to snatch it from them by force. The situation as it stands - after tonight’s proclamation - is that people haven’t got “loktantra” as they were demanding, there is no talk of a constituent assembly, and more importantly Gyanendra wants to hold on to those “executive powers” as per the Article 35 of 1990 constitution. If that is not enough, where is the mention of Maoist in Gyanendra’s proclamation? He is acting as if they do not exist. How ironic it is that the main reason he gave when he took power from the people was to solve the Maoist issue. So has it been solved already that they do not even feature in his speech anymore? There is no response we can have to this proclamation than that of DISGUST, UTTER DISGUST. SPA leaders can mull over whether to go after the pieces of bones that Gyanendra has thrown their way, however, for us - the people of Nepal - the fight against his autocratic regime should go on until we get what we deserve. And WE DESERVE NO LESS THAN COMPLETE DEMOCRACY - LOKTANTRA. NO Constitutional Monarchy, NOT even Ceremonial Monarcy BUT LOKTANTRA. Only then the people of Nepal will have the power to carve their future in a fair, democratic society.
AT THE STOKE OF MIDNIGHT
BROTHERS IT IS ALMOST MIDNIGHT
IT IS TIME TO END THE FIGHT
TIME TO JOIN HANDS AND UNITE
BLOGGERS GO OUT INTO THE NIGHT
SHOUT WITH ALL YOUR MIGHT
ALL THOSE WHO WANTS TO BE PM RIGHT
COME TO TUDHIKHEL FOR THE COMPETITIVE FIGHT
GIRIJA, MAKUNE, SHERBAHADUR ETC. PULL UP YOUR UNDIES TIGHTS
GET IN THE RING AND HIT EACH OTHER WITH ALL YOUR MIGHT
THE LAST MAN STANDING WILL BE DECLARED THE NEW PM, ALRIGHT ?
OH! LORD WHAT A DELIGHT! I WOULD PAY A MILLION DOLLRS TO SEE THIS FIGHT
ITS ABSOLUTELY OUT-OF-SIGHT!
dear seshyan
FIGHT ISNOT OVER YET
mind u fight wasnot for makin anybody pm…
fight is for JanaGanatatra Nepal,its for our president in the exact sense,,,,
u can sleep peacefully but think of Basu Ghimire’s wife,wife of poor carpentar… can c sleep now… how dare u say its time to unite…
can u unite with ur mother’s killer????
can u simply give up wid that killer???
Aafno purano das manobrti bata utha..dherai dhilo bhayisakyo… aaba das hoina praja hoina janta bhayera bacchne samay ho
hami lai kohi JanmaJat padena neta chahidaina hami lai hami haru ko majh ma aato ra pitho khayera aayeko neta chahinchha
GKP hopina na Deuba nai.. naya sambidhan ma chunab bhayera aayeko neta le matari sasan garchha
ra tyo chunab ko ladai gyane ko durbar aagadi ko,usko ghoda ko runway,tundikhel,ma hudaina harek nepali ko ghar aagan ra jijibisa ko bhag haru ma hunccha.. ra tyo ladai herna timilai paisa tirna pardain… matra ramro sochai bhaye pugchha……
timi yo sochai nai liyera hidyou bhane tyo herna timile trillion dollrs tire pani hudaina..
HAMRO AANDOLAN JARI CHHA
Hope u understand nepali and nepali’s voice..
It is my sad duty to announce you that Mr. Seshyan Nepal has been shot dead by Royal Police a few minutes ago on his way to Tundhikel…
BetterNepal: you’ve got to remember that Ireland is in two parts, its the northern bit that’s still under the brit monarchy that’s been the cause of all the trouble since 1969, like I say, these royals don’t like to let go of “their” land. And the reason that the fighting in the North of Ireland has stopped now is that the royalists up there have realized that they can’t have it all their own way and that they have to deal with the republicans.
Cyp: Buddy you are already hallucinating ?
Melissa, was it you who mentioned the king marrying his cousin? That runs throughout the royal family, and we all know what inbreeding will do in a family!! mental illness, genetic diseases, they are all way more common in inbred families. and apparently, down the royal line, there have been massacres and crazy people.
that aside, now you have got what you wanted, Nepali people. And again you are not happy. Now you are angry about who will be chosen prime minister? Why for god’s sakes did you not think of these things before? If you can’t do this when the king agrees to some of what you want, then what the F__ will happen when the King is deposed? Then total anarchy will role! I am most adamantly not a royalist. But if you are sincere about peace, then give this a shot. otherwise, your option is to let the maoists grow ever stronger (they already are, sitting on the outside looking in while licking their lips and waiting for the kill)…yes, the maoists have their agenda too. it was to their benefit to allow this chaos of protests to happen, to stir further chaos…both the king and the maoists are liars. but in my book, the king is a safer choice for now. otherwise, the maoists may well gain total control. And i seriously thin the SPA made a huge mistake in getting into bed with the maoists to save their asses for the short term. somehow all of you have forgotten the LONG TERM, THE BIG PICTURE.
Paraadhina bhayi jyundai
nunilaa aanshukaa dhikaa,
Jyunu bhanda niko hunchha
taato goli kataa kataa.
–Prasrit.
We cannot beg our right from the Darbariya Boko/khasi any more. Who the hell this Boko is to decide our sovereignty? We must not rest until we find a good Maulo for this animal.
Nepalese people are more wary of their rights now. This is already an age of information. This is not 2046 any more. He cannot hide his criminal acts anymore.
Let’s go one more blow for total democracy.
Some people in the blog now are proposing Sher Bahadur for PM. He is a mindless idiot.
This is not the time to accept deceptive proclamation of the KG.If he is not tied up properly, he will one day tell us we have taken people’s power back again.
His today’s message is complete nonsense!!
what happens if you try to fail and you succeed?
The speech Was So Expected
The king won’t give up so easily .
Isn’t that what we call ” Raj Hat ”
the strongest of the three hats
Great Going here. Royal message is as expected, but he has further ditched his future. He must respond to the aspiration of people.
Gyne is so arrogate and claver person. He tries to make foolish to international community. For example last night CNN live cast from Kathmandu. It was so nonsense reporting. People & Political party must go a head.
LONG LIVE REPUBLIC OF NEPAL
Nepal on Fire
How did the King Fail to Deliver?
Friday April 21 2006 23:10:30 PM BDT
By Khagendra Thapa
Before departing from Nepal , the outgoing ambassador of Russia His Excellency Mr. Valery V. Nazarov wrote to Nepali people “.. may I give you friendly advice to show more tolerance, understanding and goodwill towards each other in pursuing your national goals.
It is not proper for sons and daughters to argue let alone to quarrel at the bedside of their ill parents. Your fatherland and motherland - Nepal is seriously ill. The name of the illness is terrorism. Please stop squabbling and join hands in combating this deadly common menace together. Your home - Nepal is in flames, and the primary task of all the inhabitants is to extinguish the fire, to save the people and to do away with the incendiaries - not to argue on how and who can do it better.”
Ambassador Nazarov, a true friend of Nepali people, stated it appropriately. It is time to have flexibility in our stands and stop fighting among ourselves. If we continue to fight among ourselves, the day will come when we will have to regret that our enemies have taken advantage of the situation and our motherland may not be there. Our forefathers such as Bhakti Thapa fought hard against the colonialist to keep our motherland free from foreign invaders. He fought back at the age of 70 with khukuris and stones against a well armed enemy. We need to remember the facts of our history and our glory and we need to be united otherwise we will be finished as a nation and as a people.
How did get where we are today?
During the Panchayat period, the so called Panchas concentrated on enriching themselves and as long as they show their loyalty to the King they could get away with any kind of corruption or fraud and sometimes even criminal activities. Corruption was not really open and was limited to small amounts and was hidden. Most development works were limited to cities. However, it was during this period that the East-West High way was completed in addition to many other road projects such as Prithvi high way, It failed to be an all inclusive in terms of the distribution of resources. Some regions such as the far western regions were excluded in any kind of development activities. It also failed to reach out to all disadvantaged ethnic groups.
Eventually, it was the excesses of the supposedly a loyal group to the King called Mandales which was responsible in triggering the 1990 protest against the King which brought the political change of 1990. This forced the king out of the active politics and following the drafting of new constitution and general elections, Nepali Congress Party headed by Girija Koirala came to power.
Multiparty Government Failed to Punish Corrupt Panchas
Following the revolt, Panchayat rule was ended and an interim government headed by Krishna Prasad Bhattarai was installed. In the meantime, a commission headed by Mallik was formed to examine and identify the corrupt criminals during the Panchayat period. The commission prepared an extensive report. The report was never made public and both Bhattarai and Girija failed to implement and punish the Panche criminals. This really angered many people including the cadres of various political parties including the congress party who participated in the violent demonstrations to bring about the 1990 political change. However, no one dared to question Girija for he was the new king in the Himalayan Kingdom. Girija was supposedly a democratically elected prime minister. There are three fundamental tenets of democracy namely: 1. rule of law, 2. transparency and 3. accountability. Girija already violated a basic tenet of democracy that is transparency by failing to first make the report public and secondly he refused to implement it. Consequently most corrupt and hated Panchas such as Navaraj Subedi went unpunished with the millions of rupees of looted money.
After three general elections with no government able to serve the complete five year term and political parties and their bosses concentrating more on personal financial and political gain, Maoists insurgents started armed revolt from the western remote districts in 1996. Maoists started the revolt with their forty popular demands which were mostly justified. At the beginning, people liked what Maoists were doing and had a lot of supporters. However, now their demands have been reduced to one that is the election of a constituent assembly which will supposedly draft a new constitution. Maoists became unpopular among the people primarily because of three factors viz: 1. brutal killing of innocent villagers, 2. extortion, and 3. destruction of infrastructure. It is to be noted that Maoists have not killed a single corrupt officials or politicians. They have also abducted school children and villagers and use them as human shields during their attacks against security forces.
When Prime Minister Deuba was about to face the vote of no confidence in parliament in 2002, he dissolved the parliament and agreed to hold elections within six months as required under 1990 constitution. In order to maximize his chances of winning the elections he also dissolved the elected local government bodies. He wanted to change the outcome of the elections by having his own supporters at the local level. Local level governments play an important role in winning elections by manipulating the votes and voters. Elections in Nepal have never been fair. Spending of tremendous amounts of corrupt money by incumbent candidates was a common practice. There are no term limits.
Contrary to the democratic principle of one person one vote, the party leaders were allowed to run for elections from more than one constituency. For example, Girija Koirala always ran both from Morang district and Sunsari district. In addition, there are no primary elections. One can only run for parliament if the party boss like Gririja or Madhav Nepal issue a party ticket. Therefore, you either have to bribe the party leader or one has to be relative of party boss in order to run for the parliament. My own relative in Congress Party was denied ticket by Girija because she refused to bribe him. On the other hand, if you are an extremely corrupt politician and have collected a lot of money, party leader will give a ticket without any questions.
When Deuba failed to hold the general elections within six months as required by the constitution, king Gyanendra dismissed him and asked the political parties to forward a clean person to be appointed prime minister. It is interesting to note that there was virtually no opposition even by political parties when the king sacked Deuba in October 2002. After successive governments failed to hold the national elections and settle the insurgency problem, King Gyanendra dismissed the government appointed by himself in February 2005 and took the executive power and declared a state of emergency in the country. He said that he was going to curb corruption and solve the insurgency problem.
Since people were fed up with the corruption and incompetence of the political parties and their leaders, majority of the people including myself supported the King’s takeover. The King also came up with 21 point program which made people very hopeful about the King’s plan to restore democracy within three years.
How did the King Fail to Deliver?
No Homework before Action
First of all, the king had not done the necessary homework before he acted. He had no plan of action. He obviously was not prepared for the massive task he undertook. Even Nepal’s long time friends the United States and UK did not approve of his actions forget about the immediate neighbor in the south. Worst of all, the very person who asked the political parties to send clean person as prime minister and the very person who promised to fight corruption not only appointed corrupt individuals but also the convicted criminals in his government. When he appointed the corrupt criminals who were called Mandales during Panchayat era, people started to doubt the sincerity of the King. Many people had doubts as to the real intentions of the King’s takeover. He did not bring competent, clean and qualified people to implement his 21 point program.
Above all, the King had very poor public relations. Consequently, he increasingly isolated himself internationally. His incompetent and stupid ministers were more of a liability than assets. He has practically no support left among the comity of nations. People got very frustrated when he failed to curb corruption and control insurgency. His attempt to hold local level elections in the municipalities also failed to impress people since most of the political parties boycotted elections because they were going to lose big time. Maoists threat of violence and the murder of the candidates by the insurgents really prevented people from participating in the election.
The King even failed to convince the so called royalist parties to participate in the elections. To make matters worse, India engineered the twelve point agreement between the seven political parties and the Maoists. This gave a real boost to the status of both the insurgency and the seven political parties in the eyes of the people. Now the nationwide unrest called by the seven parties and assisted by Maoist has put the country on the fire.
King Failed to Punish Corrupt Leaders
When the King took power in Feb. 1, 2005, people had high hopes that he will arrest and persecute all those government officials as well as the political leaders who had collected massive amount of money during the period 1990-2002. People wanted that money to be confiscated. However, the King did not initiate any action against them. The commission he created was unable to carry out its charge. The commission was dismantled by the Supreme Court. Now the corrupt individuals, with the blessings of the political parties, are financing the current unrest against the King.
Losers Became Heroes
Thanks to the inability of the King to deliver what he promised on Feb. 1, 2005, the leaders of the political parties who were hated by the people prior to 2005, have once again become heroes. The people who did not care about human rights during the time they were in power have become great proponents of human rights. The same leaders who now chant the mantra of democracy did not have any respect for democracy when they were in power. Did they follow the rule of law? Were they transparent in what their party did? Are they accountable for what happened to the country and the people? Were they able to solve the Bhutanese refugees problem? Why did not Girija block border with India when thousands of refugees passed through the Indian territory to come to Nepal? Refugees go to a bordering country and not the country which has no common border. If Girija had the ability to think, Nepal would never have to face the Bhutanese refugee problem? Why did the democratically elected government ignore the 40 point demands put forward by the Maoists? Most of those demands were reasonable. However, the new elected kings of Nepal did not want to listen to anything that did not benefit themselves or their political parties. They ignored ideas of small parties as if they were little kids. When the Maoists started armed insurgency, they unsuccessfully tried to crush them. If the king gives up power now, I wonder how the political parties and the Maoists are going to operate. I bet they will be back to square one.
Unrest has Hit the Poor People Hard
The nationwide unrest has really hit the poor people very hard. Over a million people are internally displaced in Nepal due to ten year old insurgency. Most of the displaced people have moved to the cities as internal refugees. In order to survive, they have to work whole day so that they can feed the family. As a result of the unrest in major cities of the country, these displaced people as well as the poor people who were already in the cities are living without food. To make matters worse, even the middle class is feeling the pain. They are running out of food and cooking gas. Those who have invested in businesses are losing money everyday. They cannot attend to social activities. They could not perform planned wedding ceremonies because they cannot travel.
Movement Cannot be Suppressed
Unlike the 1990 movement, this movement is very different in that it is supported and actively participated by armed guerrillas. It is not just limited to big cities. It is practically nationwide. The King has no support left. If the movement continues any further, it is likely that the soldiers and police will refuse to take orders from the officers and commanders. Firing at civilians involved in peaceful protest is not acceptable. Killing of civilians will make matters even worst. It will be like adding fuel to the fire. If the King wants to preserve the monarchy, he has very few options left. He has no one to blame other than himself and his foolish ministers and other crooks who are profiting from the current situation.
Possible Solution
One possible solution would be for the King to revive the parliament dissolved by the Deuba government and ask them to hold the general election within a specified time period. This will put the responsibility of running the country and solving the insurgency problem back to the soldiers of the political parties. The minute he does that the political parties will be back to each others throat again. Hopefully, this time around their allies the Maoists will help out.
In order to save his face the King could put the following condition to the political parties so that they are more democratic and more responsible to the people:
1.No one can run for parliament from more than one constituency
2.There must be spending limit during the election of parliament by each candidate. For example, they cannot spend more than what they can earn as a member of parliament during the five years they are members.
3.There must be a term limit so that a person cannot be a member of parliament for more than two terms i.e. ten years.
4.There must be complete transparency in the financial transactions of political parties as well as candidates. Party income and expenditures must be made public and must be audited by an independent auditing agency. Complete democracy as demanded by the political parties cannot be achieved without complete transparency and accountability.
5.There must be a provision to recall a member of parliament if 67% of the voters disagree with his or her performance.
6.Each political party and its leaders must be accountable for their actions. If they want to demonstrate in streets, then the financial loss incurred by the citizens as result of their actions must be paid by the parties.
7.There must be primary elections to qualify as to who can run for the member of the parliament so that there is no need to bribe a leader to get a ticket.
8.Anyone who is convicted criminal must not be allowed to vote even if the person has completed the jail sentence. Such criminals must not be allowed to run for any kind of elections.
9.Form a commission to investigate and report the excesses done by the political leaders, their relatives, nd government employees (including police and army) after 1990. Persecute and take away all the ill-gotten wealth from everyone without any fear and favor.
10.Persecute those who were mentioned in Malik report and punish them appropriately.
Alternative Solution
The alternative solution may be to ask the political parties as well as the Maoists to form a coalition government which will uphold the above mentioned criteria and hold general elections within a specified time period. This might be more difficult to achieve under the circumstances.
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Dr. Khagendra Thapa is a professor at Ferris State University in Michigan, USA.
E Mail:Khagendra_Thapa@ferris.edu
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This man Dr. Khagendra Thapa was a die hard pro royalist and supporter of the King’s February 1st move. Now he has turned around 360 degree and writing such article. Other mandales might also give you a lot of Upadesh through such article.
The Fact
.Death Doll at kalanki is 20.
.king has been backed by USA and India for further movement
.RNA used Helicopter to shoot at protester
OK, we got it now. What next? We people should also give lesson to the leaders as well. They must be excited and happy now to go to power again after long time. People like Girija must be denied to take power. He is the person who brought Nepal to this situation. He is just a piece of shit. So we should give lesson to these so called leaders as well…
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