American Ambassador to Nepal James F. Moriarity talks to Vijay Kumar in Frontline, the star journalist’s show in Kantipur TV.
Sanchai Chha. Tapailai?
Malai Thikai chha. How much Nepali you have picked up since you arrived here 20 months back?
Oh..mero Nepali bhasha thikai chha…. Aaaja ko baithak ma thulo bhag engreji bhasha ma dinu parcha.
How much Nepali politics you have picked up since you came here?
I am afraid even less. Politics are very confusing and we have been constantly strained in understanding them.
If we were to compare you understanding of Nepali language with Nepali politics?
Strange it may seem but my Nepali language is probably better than my understanding of Nepali politics.
You are very much in the news these days…you have become famous.
Yes, that is actually very intentional because even though my understanding of Nepali politics is flawed, I am genuinely very worried, my government is very worried that the situation here is getting worse and worse, it is deteriorating very quickly.
What do you mean by “my understanding of Nepali politics is flawed”?
This is a country is complicated history, very difficult relationships among many of the key actors, I don’t think any outsiders can hope to understand all of those.
When an ambassador of a super power says his/her understanding about the country is flawed, that’s very serious king of thing..
I think it is but I believe everybody should ….not assume they understand everything what’s going on. I think if you push Nepali politicians, if you push His Majesty himself I think they will all acknowledge that there are gaps in their understandings. One of the biggest gaps that I have been hitting up is of course Maoists’ intentions. I obviously can’t look into their hearts, I don’t have contacts with them, I can look at what they say and what they do and come to very worrisome conclusions.
What would be your specific answer to a question about the role of American ambassador in Nepal when it comes to framing overall policy toward Nepal?
Ah…frrrrruuu… I would say I do play a fairly active role in trying to shape policy back in Washington. Ultimately it is my superiors in the State Department and in White House who will decide policy towards Nepal but they will listen to what I have to say.
I am sure they will.
ha ha ha
Your Feb 15 remarks at Ganeshman Singh Prathistan have generated a lot of heat.
Hum..ha. As I said that was very intentional. If you look at the developments since the end of the cease fire you will have to conclude that there are lots of reasons for legitimate concerns here. I was trying to bring that concern for start a dialogue, start people debating Maoists’ intentions, the need for reconciliation. They don’t want people making assumptions that might prove dangerous to the country later on. I want them examining them those assumptions.
….I wanted to create a debate about Maoists’ intentions. I want the people to say each other what’s Moriarty saying, why is he saying that, what is he saying about other peoples’ intentions and as long as I get people talking about that I think I accomplish my purpose.
When you made those remarks, were you aware that they would generate heat?
Absolutely. A hundred percent sure.
When you made those remarks, were you aware that the heat would be of this scale or of this degree?
I believed that would.
In today’s newspaper, among other people, Dr. Bhattarai has come up with this version [in the Kathmandu Post].
Well, I am glad to see Dr. Bhattarai takes what I said seriously and feels compelled to respond. And indeed that is part of what I am trying to do. Let them spell out what they mean. For example, if you read these interviews closely and editorial pieces that Dr. Bhattarai and Mr. Prachanda have given since the end of the ceasefire, if you read them closely, I think you have a lot of cause for concerns.
Do you totally reject the 12-point understand as a whole or there are particular clauses that you don’t like?
First of all, the biggest concern is how the Maoists have acted since the 12-point agreement. And that played into the one point of particular concern I have when reading the Agreement. The very first clause says something like both sides agree to attack the autocratic monarchy from their own positions. And I will tell you I had a conversation with those people who were involved into formulating those agreement. And they said to me that Maoists had initially desired to include a very explicit point saying that they would continue to use violence. And obviously, that first point to me just looked like a compromise. They didn’t specifically say that the Maoists would continue to use violence but it implied that they would obviously [go for that].
My question is are you against any understanding between Maoists and political parties or you are against particular clauses of that understanding?
I think that the parties have the intention of bringing the Maoists into the mainstream. That’s laudable, that’s good. If it works. If they can come up with an agreement that makes Maoists being to come into the mainstream, that’s terrific, I would praise that. All I am saying that this agreement seemed to have left open the options of violence on part of the Maoists. And Maoists have undeniably engaged into violence. So in other words Maoists are telling the world that the 12-point agreement is not about their giving up the violence but is about their attempting to gain the parties’ support for their use of violence.
US seems to have adopted three attitude towards this understanding: before, during and after. For example, where there were rumors about Maoists and parties were about to reach to an agreement, you came out against it. You made your mind very clear in the interview with Kantipur and the Kathmandu Post. But after the understanding was publicized, America cautiously welcomed it. You were not that much against it. And in one fine morning in Feb 15, it seems that you have flipped again. Or am I reading you wrong?
Let me present details. When I came here in October against a prospective agreement, not between parties and the Maoists, but between UML and the Maoists I have been told that the agreement at that point in no way bound the Maoists to give up violence and actually move toward the political mainstream. That was just an agreement to work together against the king. That’s why I spoke out so strongly at that time. That seemed very very dangerous.
When this agreement came out, as I said, I have reservations, my government have reservations. But against we were willing to look at the clauses that seemed to be the commitment on the part of Maoists try to come to the political mainstream. We were cautions and we said that anything that would led the Maoists to political mainstream would be welcome. However since January 2nd, since the end of the ceasefire, it is increasingly becoming clear with every statements by either Dr. Bhattarai or Mr. Prachanda along with the increasing drumbeat of violence that the Maoists didn’t really come to end the violence.
But the blame for the end of ceasefire lies equally to the state because they were not reciprocating?
Ya, I want to make it clear that the ceasefire would be good to Nepal, I do think there should have been movement on the part of the government towards the ceasefire.
If somebody says Maoists pushed toward breaking the ceasefire by the state, they had no other options left.
Are you saying that the only other option for the Maoists is violence? In that case, I don’t think parties should work with them.
If somebody says the state is not reciprocating, one couldn’t have continued cease fire indefinitely…
Well, I would think people in the country side would have hoped the Maoists would continue the ceasefire. I take your point. The government should have reciprocated but frankly Maoists were getting so much credit in the country side they were beginning to reverse some of the negative feelings. I would argue that it would have helped them to continue with. I hope the government would have reciprocated eventually.
Are you aware of the background that pushed parties towards Maoists? The king was not rolling back to the democratic process.
Absolutely and I will tell you that we discussed things with Washington and the day after the takeover by the king last year we were telling Washington look this is very counterproductive and it will push people toward crazy things…push people look at alternatives, violent revolution and cooperation between parties and the Maoists. Ya, it was a move that is very counterproductive and has been very dangerous for the country.
In that case, a bit share of the blame for this 12-point understand should go to the king?
You agree to that?
Ya, I don’t disagree.
Parties found themselves to be pushed in that area?
They were boxed into a corer, their space has been getting constricted. And to be fair from the both sides. Maoists have kicked the parties from the country sides and they are desperate to get back in. Meanwhile the king was pushing from the other side, not giving the parties other options. So, yes. I understand the context.
Can we say parties’ joining hands with Maoists, at least in the context of 12-point agreement was all but natural consequences of the King’s actions?
Ya, I am not going to fight with that Vijay. Well, that’s a reasonable statement but again I am just looking at the outcome of the 12-point understanding. If they let to the Maoits genuinely towards mainstream, I would say ‘this is great, and the king has to respond’. Instead, I am saying, they don’t seem to be moving toward mainstream, they are trying to drag the parties into their violent agenda, that’s dangerous. But still the king has to be reaching out trying to reach an understanding with political parties.
Give us specific reasons as to why are you against this 12-point agreement.
Murder of candidates and destruction of candidate’s home leading up to the municipal elections. Death of a poor young cab driver who broke the Banda called by Maoists in Kathmandu. I would say in totality all the statements and pieces spoken and said by Mr. Prachanda and Dr. Bhattarai since the end of the ceasefire. If you take the totality of those statements, its clear as it can be to anybody who want to listen that they plan to use violence to overthrow the state. That’s their interpretation of where they stand after the 12-point agreement.
So for you the use of violence in politics is the basic cause of concern.
Ya, very much so. And the other part you have to listen to close is that they are saying that they will use that violence to overthrow the state. They would continue to control the weapons after the overthrow of the state. They have a fallback plan. If this violent revolution doesn’t work in the next couple of months, they will go back to pushing forward constituent assembly. Even during the election their weapons will be kept under some sort of international supervision, not by foreign troops, but some sort of international supervision. But then they will get the weapons back and form the core of the national army. If anybody thinks that you can have a free and fair election in the villages of Nepal with the villagers think that the Maoists are going to get their weapons back, I think they are being very optimistic.
It seems you don’t want to trust Maoists at all.
I listen to what they say. I am reading their words very closely. I do have lots of background dealing with communists and totalitarian movements and if you use that framework to look closely what they say its very very worrisome. Ya, Mr. Prachanda has not defined what he means by multiparty system but he has clearly said its not bourgeois parliamentary democracy. What you and I call democracy is bourgeois parliamentary democracy where people vote to choose their representatives and representatives get to decide policies. Its not the system where you have a few parties under the control of the Maoists party and Maoists party candidates get 99 percent of the vote every time.
Is it possible that you are overacting to the Maoists not trusting them at all? Not giving them a fair chance…
Sure. I started [this interview] saying that I don’t know everything here. I hope I am wrong in what the Maoists are doing. But I would suggest it is dangerous for Nepalis to assume that I am wrong and to assume that should ignore everything that Dr. Bhattarai and Mr. Prachanda say. Well, Mr Prachanda says that peoples’ court will try all feudal elements. What does he mean? You are quite a feudal element to me, Bijay.
Ya..look like one with a tie…
A tie..ya…You are a class enemy, I think.
I think people’s court might have to try you when they come to power.
Ya..ya..We will see that.
I am not being pretentious here. Look closely what they say. Five or six very long pices of interviews, and articles. Think about what they are saying. What their multiparty competition is, what sort of guarantees that they wont retain their weapons after the election of constituent assembly.
They say that they are fighting for democratic, peaceful and prosperous Nepal?
Again get them to define their terms. And look at what they say closely. Ya, that sounds like a bourgeois parliamentary democracy to me but they are saying it isn’t. So there is gong it be some important difference there.
Dr Bhattarai has written an article saying that they have taken a historic decision, they have changed so many decisions, and they are ready to come to some sort of system, which we can almost call a bourgeois democracy.
He has not said that. No. And he has not repudiate Mr. Prachanda’s insistences that there has to be a constitutional framework that embodies anti-feudalism and anti-imperialism.
I think you want a clarification and definition from Maoists regarding what king of Nepal they want to create.
That’s my point. And I hope you can actually get them to a definition of a bourgeois parliamentary democracy. Because anything else if they sort of put conditions, they will do have ‘kuniyat’ as we say bad intentions.
Would you like the existing triangular conflict go for ever instead of some bipolar development taking place?
No. Actually what I would like to see is a unitary state, functioning democracy where all the players agree that people of Nepal vote for their representatives in every two years or four years. That is what we want. This triangular division is very very unhealthy and dangerous.
Triangular conflict hasn’t given us anything and going on for years. What’s wrong turning it into a bipolar one?
All the parties should try for an unipolar agreement, not a conflict at all. I understand what you are saying. The implication will be that the parties and the Maoists have to struggle against the palace. And in some ways, I can appreciate that perspective against the sense that the king has pushed the parties away and has made it much more difficult to achieve a reconciliation. On the other hand, I say if they continue to make it clear that are for violent overthrow of the state and they will continue to have control over weapons after that.
You believe that whatever Maoists are saying is their tactics and they will come to their natural state when they are in power, right?
I am saying listen to what they say closely. I am not just picking up one or two phrases and say this is their intent. Listen to Prachanda when he says we don’t want bourgeois parliamentary democracy and think about what that means. Listen to him when he ways the next stop for the parties to join an underground government and support the peoples’ army against the state. And think about what that means.
What’s better? Parties and Maoists coming to some sort of understanding vis-à-vis this triangular state going on for ever.
Those are two options that I don’t accept. I am not supporting either of them. May be on theory, if the Maoists genuinely desire to come for political mainstream, that’s great. They are welcome. But I can’t endorse the parties working with violent Maoists who are for violent overthrow of the state. Equally, this triangular conflict is very dangerous for Nepal.
America wants to sole this problem through force or through dialogue.
I want this problem to be solved as quickly as possible. I fear this problem can’t be solved unless there is a coherence counter-insurgency strategy. I insist that counter-insurgency strategy mainly has to be how does government and parties begin winning back the rural areas. How do they make people safer in the rural areas? Nepal is pretty bad but its not that bad that I can’t talk to people. People from outside Kathmandu, whether from the left or from the right, say that people in the village are scared. Every night they go to bed scared. Scared mainly from the Maoists. They don’t’ know what’s going to happen to them. They don’t know who’s going to ask for food, somebody ask for money or somebody going to ask for their children. That’s the situation that has to be reversed.
I want your specific answer to the question: America wants to solve the problem by force, or dialogue or combination.
Obviously, by dialogue. But I have not seen a conditions yet that convince me that seeing Maoists 10 years into their struggle, seeing a very very weak government, seeing huge division between the palace and the parties, I am convinces that they need to give up their final goal. I think Nepalis have to ask themselves. Do the Maoists think they are winning? I say their answer is probably yes. If so, at that point why would they give up their final goals? Their final goal is a one party state.
Maoists appear to be winning. Will they ever win? And even Maoists leaderships say we will not be able to capture the state.
And that gets back to your earlier question: never ending triangular arrangement. I don’t think there can be a never ending triangular arrangement. Basically I believe this state is in danger of collapse. I can’t state more clearly than that. If the palace and the parties do not cooperate, if the king doesn’t reach out, if they don’t begin to plan way back to democracy, the current state of affair will not last all that long and I think the most likely result if the collapse of the state and an opportunity for the Maoists to make a huge advances.
Many things that you have said are absolutely correct but you have a hole in your theory.
I hope so.
If it is a triangular crisis, you are prescribing the expulsion of a one side of the triangle. You are trying to imagine that the side, Maoists side, does not exist. If you are trying to bring peace here through dialogue, you are negating their size and influence.
No, not at all. What I am saying is that I believe that until and unless you have a coherent way forward on part of the, I will continue to call them, the legitimate constitutional forces, the palace and the parties, there will be no need for the Maoists to make serious compromises. That’s all I am saying. I am not saying you shouldn’t talk to them because again I will go back to my opening statement, I don’t know everything. May be the Maoists are desperate to come out but their actions and words suggest that is not the case and there is no reason not to be talking out to Maoists and trying to find out what their intentions are. But I will tell you that I genuinely believe that until they understand that there is a coherent plan in place so they need gradual erosion to their position, there is no pressure on them to compromise.
Would you like to give them some benefit of doubt?
There is always benefit of doubt but their words and actions will depend on how …and their actions and word have been pretty belligerence since the ceasefire.
What do you mean by reconciliation?
Reconciliation would have two goals. One would be how the king and the parties map a path back to the real functioning democracy and 2 how the country deals with insurgency.
Where to Maoists fit in reconciliation?
Second part. There are all ways to do it as long as there is consensus. I thin it is perfectly reasonable to say okay come here and talk, we will consider putting you in a joint government. There are many possible solution. But there has to be some sort of agreement between legitimate political forces because I believe Maoists will feel no pressure to compromise otherwise.
Who is legitimate political force and who is not?
Well, all I am saying is the king and the political parties. I don’t call the Maoists a ‘legitimate’ political force because they are using violence to overthrow the state and they took up arms against state and functioning parliamentary system. They are undeniably a force that needs to be dealt, that needs to be recognized but they are not legitimate political force.
Is the understanding between king and political parties mandatory for solving political and other problems?
Again, I am not all knowing but I feel it might be. And precisely because Maoists are showing no sings of feeling under pressure to compromise, to give up their final objectives. And those actions and words are making me fear that yes agreement is necessary between the parties and palace.
In a situation like this where king and parties are not coming together, how this reconciliation can take place? What’s wrong with other two sides trying to reach in agreement?
Oh…there is absolutely nothing wrong with the parties and the Maoists trying to come up with the solution and get back to the bourgeois parliamentary democracy.
UWB: Rest of Q and A is in Nepali as we directly transcribed that into Nepali language (for Kantipur daily). We might upload the English version tomorrow.
अरु दुइ पक्ष मिल्दा केही खराव हुदैन तर फेरी म त उही भन्छु, युद्धविराम भङ्गभए यताका माओवादी कुरा र कामले (शान्तिपूर्ण समाधान) उनीहरुको लक्ष्य नभएको देखाउछ ।
फेब्रुअरी १५ को तपाइका भनाइ पछि धेरै राजनीतिक नेतृत्वले राजासँगको संधर्षा उनीहरुको स्थितीलाई कमजोर तुल्याएको छ भनिएको छ ।
यसलाई मैले गम्भीररुपमा लिएको छ किनकी मैले बुझेको छु कि पार्टीले के विश्वास गरेका छन् भने माओवादीसँग समझादारी गर्दा त्यसले राजालाई दवाव पुग्छ । म राजालाई दिने उनीहरुको दवावलाई कम नआक्न सचेत छु । तर माओवादी कृयाकलापका खतराहरु गम्भीर छन् र उनीहरुको लक्ष्यका बारेमा छलफल हुनु जरुरी छ ।
तपाइको भनाइ र्सार्वजनिक भएपछि राजाको स्थिती बलियो भएको छैन र ?
मलाई त्यस्तो लाग्दैन । मलाई लाग्छ राजाले बुझनु भएको छ उहासँग अर्न्तराष्ट्रिय र्समर्थन लगभग छदैछैन र देश गम्भीर अवस्थामा छ । र मलाई लाग्छ उहाँले पार्टी माओवादीबीचको सम्बन्ध उहाकै लागि पनि खतरापूर्ण छ भन्ने पनि बुझ्नुभएको हुनुपर्छ ।
दरवारभित्रका दक्षिणपन्थीहरु त तपाइको भनाइ पछि खुशी भएका छन्, ‘लौ हेर अमेरिकी राजदूत प्रजातान्त्रिक क्याम्पबाट हटे’ भन्दै ।
माघ १९ यता मात्रै होइन, वितेका बर्षरुदेखि नै यदि तपाइले हामीले भनेका र गरेका कुरा हेर्नुभयो भने देख्नुहुने छ हामीले शान्तीपूर्ण्, सम्पन्न र प्रजातान्त्रिक नेपाल चाहेका छौं र हामीले त कहिल्यै भन्न छाडेका छैनौ कि राजालाई सधै माघ १९ को कदमले नेपाललाई चाहिएको नजितातिर लैजान सकेका छैनन् र त्यसलाई उल्ट्याउनु जरुरी छ । त्यसैले दरवार र पार्टीबीच सम्झौता हुनुजरुरी छ ।
प्रजातन्त्र र राजाको प्रत्यक्ष शासनबीच छान्नुपरेमा के छान्नुहुने छ ?
प्रजातन्त्र नि । (त्यसको निर्णय त) निमेषभरमै (हुन्छ) ।
प्रजातन्त्र र शान्तीमा ?
त्यो त झुटो छनोट हुनेछ अर्थात त्यसमा त कुनै छनोट नै हुनेछैन । र वितेको बर्षो अनुभवले नै पनि देखाएको छ कि र्सवसत्तावादी सरकारले यहाको द्धन्दलाई सम्बोधन गर्न सक्दैन भन्ने ।
अहिलेको अवस्थामा जहा प्रजातन्त्र आफ्नै खुट्टामा उभिन सक्दैन र शान्ती पनि छैन । के यही अवस्थाको निरन्तरता राम्रो होला कि पार्टीहरुले माओवादीहरुसँग कुनै न कुनै खाले सम्झैता गर्नुपर्छ ?
कस्तो सम्झौता हो त्यसमा भर्रपर्छ । यदि माओवादीले अप्रजातान्त्रिक माध्यमबाटै राज्यको प्रभावकारी नियन्त्रण लिने भन्ने सम्झौता हो भने म त्यसलाई राम्रो सम्झौता भन्न सक्दिन । तर हतियार त्यागेर संसदीय प्रजातन्त्रको धेरै मध्येको एउटा पार्टी हुने हो भन्छ भने त ठिक छ ।
तपाइ कुन रुचाउनुहुन्छ ? राजाको र्सवसत्तावाद कि माओवादीको ?
राजाले पनि त्यो बुझेका छन् कि उनले सधै शक्ति आफ्नो हातमा लिएर राख्न सक्दैनन् । अर्न्तराष्ट्रिय र राष्ट्रिय अरु शक्तिलाई उनले धान्न सक्दैनन् । उनले देश भित्र र विदेशी सहयोग पाउने छैनन् । कम्युनिस्टको र्सवसत्तावादी शासन त नेपालको लागि पुरै विपत्तिजन्य हुनेछ । राजाले त चाहेर पनि गर्न सक्दैनन तर बाटो खुला भयो भने माओवादीले चाहि गर्न सक्छन् ।
डा. भट्टराइ भन्नुहुन्छ तपाइले माओवादीको काल्पनिक र्सववत्तावादको विरोध गरेर राजाको र्सवसत्तावादलाई सहयोग पुर्याइरहनुभएको छ ।
फेरी पनि उहाले आफ्नो लक्षहरु के हुन्, प्रष्ट पार्नु पर्छ । बर्जुवा संसदीय प्रजातन्त्र होइन भने उहाहरुले चोहको प्रजातन्त्र कुन हो ? सामन्त र साम्राज्यवादी विरुद्धको प्रजातन्त्र भनेको कस्तो हो ? राजाको र्सवसत्तावाद पनि कल्पना कै कुरा हो, त्यो सम्भव हुनेछैन ।
तर संविधानसभाको चुनावमा जादा के भयो त ?
मैले त संविधानसभाको चुनावको विरोध गरेकै छैन नि । तर त्यसका लागि माओवादीले हतियार कतिन्जेल विसाउने (एक हप्ता) के अनि हामीले विश्वास गर्नुपर्ने कि नेपालका चार हजार गाउका बासिन्दाले एक हप्ता पछि माओवादीले हतियार फिर्ता लिनेछने भन्ने थाहा पाउदा पाउदै आफ्नो मनले चाहेजसरी भोट हाल्ने छन् ? फेरी पनि म उनीहरुलाई चुनावबेला हतियारको व्यवस्थापनबारे पनि प्रष्ट हुन आग्रह गर्छु ।
माओवादीहरुले त अमेरिकाले आफूहरुलाई ध्वस्त पार्न चाहेको बताइहरेका छन् नि ।
हामीले सेनालाई कुनै घातक हतियारको सहयोग गरेका छैनौं त्यसैले उहाँले कसरी अमेरिकाले माओवादीहरुलाई नष्ट गर्नचाहेको भन्नुहुन्छ ?
अमेरिकाले नेपाललाई रणनीतिकहिसावले प्रयोग गर्न खोजेको भनिन्छ । के हो त्यो रणनीतिक स्वार्थ ?
हामी चीन र भारतलाई उदाउदा शक्तिकारुपमा लिएका छौं जोसँग हामीले काम गर्नुपर्ने छ । यहाको अस्थिरताले चनि र भारतमा पनि परिस्थिती अप्ठेरो बनाउछ । यहा माओवादीले शासन हत्याउन त्यसले क्षेत्रमै अस्थिरता फैलाउला भन्ने देखेका छौं । अनि हाम्रो के रणनीतिक स्वार्थ ? त्यो त शान्तीपूर्ण, सम्पन्न र प्रजातान्त्रिक नेपाल भन्दा अर्को छैन । यसलाई सक्रिय प्रजातन्त्रमा फर्काउने र माओवादी विद्रोहलाई प्रभावशाली ढंगमा सम्बोधन गर्ने ।
नेपालबाट उत्तर दक्षिण हेर्न मिल्छ भनेर त्यसो भनिएको हो कि ?
त्यो त हास्यास्पद तर्क हो ।
विदेशी समुदायको नेपालसम्बन्धी दृष्टिकोणमा कत्तिको मिलेमतो छ ?
धेरै हदसम्म एकै छ हाम्रो धारणा । हामीले भारतीय र बेलायतीहरुसँग नजिकमा रहेर काम गरेका छौं । बटमलाइन सहमती के छ भने यो देशलाई सक्रिय प्रजातन्त्रमा फर्काउनुपर्छ, माओवादी हिंसा धेरै खतरापूर्वक छ र माओवादीले शक्तिहत्याए भने त्यो विपतदूपर्ण हुनेछ ।
कसैले भन्छन् अमेरीकीहरुको तुलनामा युरोपेली र भारतीयहरु माओवादीप्रति नरम छन् ।
तपाइले त्यो त युरोपेली र भारतीयहरु सोध्नुपर्छ । तर उनीहरुले पनि माओवादीको शक्ति हत्यालाई सोझै अस्विकार गर्नेछन् ।
अहिलेको अवस्थामा नेपालमा चीनको भूमिकालाई कसरी लिनु भएको छ ?
एकजना बाहिरियाकोरुपमा सम्बन्धित पक्षहरुलाई वार्ताको लागि प्रोत्साहित गरेर चीनले सकारात्मक भूमिका खेलिरहेको छ ।
नेपालको वर्तमान विदेश नीतिलाई कसरी मूल्याङ्कन गर्नुहुन्छ ?
हा, हा, हा । म त्यसमा टिप्पणी गर्न सक्दिन ।
स्थानीय चुनावमा प्रतिक्रिया ?
चुनावले दरवार र पार्टीलाई कुनै सहमतीमा डोर्याउन नसकेकामा हामी निराश भएका छौं ।
राजाको रोडम्यापबारे ?
उहाको रोडम्यापबारे म आफै पूर्ण प्रष्ट छैन । तर रोडम्याप पार्टीसँग समझदारी गरेर सक्रिय प्रजातन्त्रमा र्फकने नै हुनुपर्छ ।
राजाको पछिल्लो सन्देशबारे कुनै प्रतिक्रिया ?
त्यसले ढोका बन्दगरेको छैन तर सम्भावित एक कदम अगाडी हो तर धेरै काम हुन बाकी छ । उहाको उद्देश्य के हो प्रष्ट हुनुजरुरी छ ।
राजनीतिक नेताहरु व्यक्तिगत कुराकानीमा भन्छन्, प्रजातन्त्रका र्समर्थक मध्ये अमेरिकाचाहि राजाको नजिक छ । ठिक हो ?
होइन । हामीले राजालाई दवाव दिएका दियै छौं । तर धारणा के छ भने राजाले अझै आफूलाई प्रष्ट पारेका छैनन् । तर हामी राजाको नजिक छौ भन्ने धारणा चाहि मलाई थाहा छ मैले माओवादी हिंसाको विराध गरेका कारण आएको नकारात्मक नतिजा हो ।