Daily Archives: December 29, 2005

Has The War Started?

Royal Nepal Army goes offensive in the heartland of Maoists at a time when “terrorists” are observing ceasefire. Why?

rolpa heart patient

A problem in the Heart of the conflict affected area: Heart patient Sapana Magar receives saline solution in the mobile camp launched by the Army in Rangkot of Rolpa district on Thursday. Rolpa is also considered the “kingdom” of the Maoist party. All pics by Sudarshan Rijal via Kantipur

Seems the war is about to start from Rolpa. Kantipur reports that soldiers in large numbers have entered in the villages of Rolpa’s North-West region. “A team has gone to northern Thawang and another has reached Bhawang,” a source told Kantipur daily. “One team left on Saturday (six days ago) where as the other next day.”

Army started bringing soldiers here from the first week of Poush. Source said that soldiers from Dang and Chitwan were taken there. More than two thousand solders were airlifted a few days ago. Special Security Group (Ranger Battalion) is involved in the team.”

This is the first time army has gone out of barrack since Maoists unilaterally announced truce. Four Maoists were killed in a clash in Rolpa five days ago.

The army has requested development representatives active in the district not to go to villages for some time. “We have been warned about possible danger,” a representative of a development agency told. “Especially in the north-west region of the district.” According to a source, army plans to disarm Maoist guerillas in the operation. The operation would last for a few weeks for now.

Based on report by Kashi Ram Dangi via Kantipur

Central Special Task Force of the army has launched a Mobile Camp called “Pathivara” in Rolpa, Rukum and Salyan- districts worst affected by the Maoist violence. The Camp has been started as the extended ceasefire is about to end. Rebels have hinted that they would not prolong the truce. In this photo taken Thursday in Rangkot of Rolpa, general people take benefit of the Camp. A woman, lying on the ground, receives saline solution.General public in Chunwang, Rukim district, benefit from a mobile camp launched by the army. Government offices in the district are involved in the camp. Army’s Special Task Force and 19 Number Battalion are mobilized to coordinate the security efforts.

15 Responses to “Has The War Started?”

concerned Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 1:31 am
If the war has started, the rebels might start to strangel Kathmandu by blowing the bridges, electrical poles and interupting water supply.

It is an easy job as Kathmandu valley has just a few entries as Prithvi Narayan Shah already found out some 250 years ago.

krishna Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 1:49 am
Idiots are every where in every country… but sad fact is that in our country they become the rulers…
And it is justified also.. poor nepali people have suffered so much of proverty… no one can remove proverty but given the skills of maoists and the autoctaric government with its well-known army … poors can be reduced…

Be prepared to celebrate news after 5 years…. people below proverty line in nepal is 0%…. ha ha..

tamang Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 2:00 am
Thanks for giving ideas to the insurgents. Sooner the Maoist strangles Kathmandu, if they can, better it will be once and for all. Its better to deal with one evil than live with two evils. Waging the war in the far remote areas has not affected the citadel of power and corruptions and nothing likely to change if the Maoist does not intensify their campaign right into the heart of the country.

Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Nepal: Ceasefire and RNA Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 3:01 am
[...] United We Blog! questions the moves of the Royal Nepal Army in the situation of the Maoist forces observing ceasefire. [...]

Sarki ko choro Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 7:36 am
History has shown (in Peru, Columbia and other parts of South America)that these socalled Maoists, Marxists eventually will turn into gangs of crimnals if they have not already done so.

Time and again Maoists also have shown that they are also nothing but a loose bunch of criminals who are used to live off looted money from poor people. They extort the teachers, small shop keepers, general public and kill the most vulnerable. We all have seen that they don’t have any popular support. Besides, they use ordinary civilians as human shield, thus they threat people as dispensible objects.

Maoists recruit children as their soldiers (although they sometimes deny that) and make school as the means for their propaganda as well as use it as their playground.

This has denied 1000’s of students their education and thier childhood. Thus they are also destroying the future of these kids and are committing the crime against humanity.

The morale of these Criminals are low, no wonder they are surrendering in droves. If Moists were capable of taking over the Kathmandu they would have done so long. In fact they have not been able to take over even a district headquarter.

Stop dreaming !!

Kendrika Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 10:04 am
I pray with God for the success of the operation launched by the Royal Nepal Army in Rolpa. War is unwanted but what could the RNA do. Just watch the senseless destruction and repression perpetrated by the Maoists? Don’t they have any responsibility to people of Nepal? This operation is the telling example that our army is fighting for us. I can’t imagine the situation Maoist capturing Nepal and Prachanda the Hitler ruling over us. Dear brothers in the Army, fight bravely. We are all with you. And I am saying this from deep inside my heart. Once Maoists are disarmed, I don’t say eradicated because they too are Nepali gone astray from right path, we will be able to enjoy peaceful days.

duke Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 1:10 pm
The answer of the why is they are planning and preparing to attack Kathmandu…..

rachana Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 1:56 pm
See The RNA posture in thise photos….

They are not there to fight but to help the poor villagers.

Go ahead RNA and free the people from Maoist tyrants!

Artha Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 2:06 pm
It is because of these useless bunch of 7 agitating parties that the country is in such a difficult predicament. They don’t want to participate in fresh elections. They claim to be the messiah of democracy but run away from the public. What nonsense is this?

Of course democracy is of the supermacy of the people not the 7 agitating parties. The 7 parties donâ??t represent the sovereign people of Nepal. If they think they do, why donâ??t they get the fresh mandate of the sovereign people ? Why run away from the people? Gather a handful of gangsters and then throw bricks at the street? They have been agitating for the last 4 years. Where have they reached? What have the Nepalese people got out of this agitation, useless and worthless as it is.

It seems you are the real slave of the Sujata and company that looted the RNAC into near bankruptsy. Stop living like a slave be a master. Contest the elections, donâ??t be afraid of going to the people. The people afterall are supreme.

swaraj Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 2:09 pm
The ceasefire called by the Maoists was only a tactical ploy. Nothing more to it. They declared ceasefire out of compulsion, compulsion dictated by India and masterminded by the 7 corrupt party leaders. The result was the 7 parties shook hands with the same terrorists who killed 13 thousand Nepalese during their own rule. The 7 parties have to share the blame for the killing of 13 thousand Nepalese since 1996.
The Maoists may extend ceasefore but that has little meaning to the Nepalese people. They must do negotiations with the government not with bunch of hoodlums in Ratna Park. The last 4 months of so-called ceasefire is a testimony of the fact how unpopular was the Maoist ceasefire, every Nepali knows that it was only a strategy not a real intention. Otherwise, why not do a ceasefire and negotiations with the government? Why with agitating 7 parties?

Sarki ko choro Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 2:18 pm
That’s what I feel too. Once the Maoist arms are controlled and their arms are ceased, we can use other means to redemocratise the country. Democracy has no meaning when your sisters, wifes, mothers are getting raped due to lack of security, we are getting lynched by gansters. All we need in Nepal is freedom from Maoist induced violence and insecurity.

If am alive, I will fight for democracy. Without life, democracy would only mean rights to “Shradhdha” for me by my sons!!

duke Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 6:49 pm
We also feel same thing maoists are playing the game…..

King Kong Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 10:04 pm
Shame on the fascists defending the undemocratic elections!

Yes, yes, the parties and the Maoists are really making a ploy to kick out the friendly ruler and his wonderful helpers. And how bad they are, they even do not want to take part in elections given by this saviour of Nepal. How undemocratic.

Just strange, that nobody of all you defenders of elections do not find anything strange in the king being head of government. Very strange, that you seem to forget, that the famous son of the ruler already killed people in the street, without being brought to justice.

So all you defenders of illegal rule, what about you? Aren’t the elections you offer now, just a show? Aren’t your soldiers killing and raping innocent citizens too? How can there be democracy, if certain people are above the law, if certain people may not even be criticized?

It is a pity to read all these comments, as they just show, that the suckers of Nepal are again cheating the simple illiterate masses. What the hell makes you better than these crazy Maoists? All of you believe in violence as a tool to rule. So all of you are not mature for democracy.

There is just one difference, the illiterate are not to be blamed for being immature for democracy. It is you, the literate defenders of this illegal rulership, who have to be blamed for the fascist attempt to capture the power in this country, where unfortunately the masses are still so uneducated not to understand your dirty game. Shame on all literate defenders of the illegal rule of this master, who is not shy of killing his own brother for power.

Soldiers of Nepal, lay down your weapons! Stop killing your brothers in the name of the richest suckers of Nepal!

King Kong says: Kings are history!

Sarki ko choro Says:

December 31st, 2005 at 12:12 am
Please note: We all want democracy in which people have the rights to express their views without being labelled a Fascist.

At the end of the day, we all want a better Nepal – why can’t we compromise?

Gthug Says:

December 31st, 2005 at 3:03 am
Both the Maoists and the RNA are at the same level when it comes to torturing and harassing people; as both have received hierarchical directives to do so. In the scuffle between the RNA and the Maoists it is the same people that end up in the ditch; the frontline guerillas of the Maoists and the foot soldiers of the RNA represent the same “socioeconomic class” both brothers’ victims of the same system. Not to mention the mass suffering as a result of the war are the very same people. The leaders on either side are running after their own vested interest/s using our people as mere tools for their cunning trade. I believe the time has come that we turn the barrel towards these crazy wolves/hyenas and put an end to this cycle of injustice.

Welcome Dr. Tulsi Giri, See The Black Flag!

black flag to dr. tulsi giri

Students in Jhapa wave black flag to Dr. Tulsi Giri. Plus, the story of “collecting” people for Dr. Giri’s meeting. All pics by Sharawati Karki via Kantipur.

By Upendra Pokharel

In the photo above police are arresting students of Mechi Campus in Jhapa who were protesting the arrival of Dr. Tulsi Giri in their town. Students shouted anti-monarchy slogans and showed black flag at Dr. Giri. Police baton charged demonstrating students, injuring four of them. Also, more than 10 students were arrested after the incident. Students had gathered to protest cabinet vice-chair Dr Giri’s presence in front of the program venue, soon after Giri had landed Birtamod on a helicopter. According to locals, police had indiscriminately attacked students with batons after arresting and putting them inside van. Most of the students suffered injuries on heads.

Among those injured are, Mechi Campus’s Free Student Union members Toyanath Bhattarai, Bikash Ban, and All Nepal National Free Student Union (ANNFSU) central members Shiva Dhungana and Gopal Sapkota. That all happened at around 1 PM. Bhattarai was rushed to Dharan at 6 PM for treatment as he couldnâ??t’ gain consciousness. Other students were treated at Mechi Hospital. Those arrested are Basanta Baniya, FSU president of Mechi Campus, joint secretary Nabin Bimali, Meghraj Poudel, Deepak Sigdel, Saurav Pokharel and Santosh Karki. They were released later in the evening. Students had repeatedly requested police not to use force against them as they were demonstrating peacefully. Eight student unions are planning to hold meeting Thursday (today) to discuss the police heavy-handedness. Bimali told that they would launch further programs in protest against the police action.

Police had forcefully “hired” vehicles from private operators to ferry participants of the meeting that was addressed by Dr. Giri. Nepal Sadbhavana Party, Rastriya Prajantra Party and Jana Mukti Party had jointly organized the meeting. Staffs of the vehicles were not allowed to leave the venue and they couldnâ??t even eat. “I told them that I wanted to go to eat something,” Rudra Karki of Sayapatri Travels said. “But the traffic didnâ??t let me go outside the program venue. Its already 3 PM and I haven’t eat.” Karki said that the brought six people from Jhapa’s Sainikmod.

Driver Subas Rai said that he couldn’t even patch up punctured tires. “Traffic police took my license when I told them I would fix the tires and eat some food,” he said. “I was so frustrated after they took my license and I didn’t even fix the tires.”

Organizers had promised to pay Rs. 1 thousand and provide 25 liters diesel to each vehicle owners, Shyam BK of Munal Yatayat said. Diesel was provided with the recommendation of traffic but no money was provided on Wednesday. “When I talked about money, they told me to come tomorrow citing crowd.” BK said. About 45 big and small vehicles ferried participants. But passengers were very few.

“Had we brought many people,” BK said, “the mass meeting would have been similar to that of parties’ Biratnagar shows. I brought 40 people. 20 of them get off the bus before coming here.”

The road was hassle-less. Police who set up temporary Check Posts at the time of political parties’ demonstrations in Biratnagar didn’t even feel like checking those buses that were ferrying people to Dr. Giri’s meeting. “Today it was a hassle-free ride,” said a staff of the bus with licensee number 1914. “Otherwise we used to walk at Lakhanpur barrack. Today when I told them I was taking people to Giri’s meeting, they let us go without even checking.” Report via Kantipur

33 Responses to “Welcome Dr. Giri, See The Black Flag!”

Chandan Says:
December 29th, 2005 at 12:16 pm

I feel pity on the haplessness of the cops.

unknown101 Says:
December 29th, 2005 at 1:55 pm

Police are humans too…they have a family too

Kirtipure Maharjan Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 2:02 pm
Police are humans. I understand. They have faimilies..that too I understand…but what I don’t understand is: did somebody forcefully recruited them? Are they “trained” for something? Are they paid by tax prayers’ money? Did they promise something when they decided to survive on the tax payers’ money?

deep Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 2:14 pm
NO worth of showing Black flags if Tulsi’s eyes are blind..He is blind and deaf and…why not ..he is mere a puppet of KG.

krishna Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 2:20 pm
Basically what I see is KG is ruling with spending governments energy on controlling opposition… Since the opposition towards autocracy is increasing… the need of investing energy is also increasing…

We nepali people are losing it all… the energy that had to go for welfare of people is being wasted in political fights…

So I see here one important thing… putting energy… no system can be sustained if it requires external energy… its only matter of time when this energy-consuming(wasting) regime falls down.

Chature Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 2:53 pm
Look, these parties-RPP, NSP and JMP they have organized mass gathering to listen Giri-PURAN, story of greatest slave. Just imagine mind-set of these parties and evaluate degree of respectness of people from these parties.
Why peope cant say that we dont like your policy, Mr. G? The state machinary of Nepal thinks that they are there to supress citizen. This has been going on since Nepal’s foundation and will go on as long as there are feudals on the top of that. We must liberate our nation from the cage of feudals…and that is going to happen very soon.

Mr. Kirtipure Maharjan, dont be surpriesd, I know there are people hired by feudal-regime to disguise bolggers opinion. They always come with anti-thesis of civilization in each and every blog-sites. Mr/Mrs Unknown101 is one of them.

tamang Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 3:30 pm
Nepali police are well fed. Just look at them, some of them even have potbellies. They are getting fat on the blood and sweat of the people while people are barely surviving. Expense to feed, house and cloth the Royal army and police has dwindled the National treasury. Just look at their faces, the majority of the people are undernourished while the king and its men are getting fat. What does this anomaly tell us? What can we do to change this soon.. ok get rid of this king, take his power away, and give the power back to the same old politicians, or do something drastically different, but how?

Asha Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 3:32 pm
If the CPN (UML) can bring in people in trucks, hire them from various districts, why can’t Dr. Giri do the same? And if royalists can shout anti-UML slogans in their rally in New Baeswor, what is so surprising that students do the same in front of Dr. Giri?

These are very natural processes of democracy. I see nothing unusual. The fact is that elections is coming very very near and both the 7 parties and the Maoists are very afraid that they will be out of power for another 30 long years. We the people cannot help them. They ruined this great nation and still cannot give a new vision. Why don’t they contest elections, get elected and do whatever they want to do?

krishna Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 4:39 pm
“Why donâ??t they contest elections, get elected and do whatever they want to do?”

What are they doing now?? they are doing what they want to do and what they feel is right?? If you suggest that they should do whatever after election why not before election or during election?? is it because KG gave a royal message that this will be done on this day so every one should accept it as message from god without any question?

Chature Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 5:29 pm
Mr/mrs, Asha

You please go, contest election, win and imply your vision. How you dare to say why not others are not taking part in election? Bycotting election is 7+1 party’s policy, so what is the problem with you? Probably you (your party) can win easliy if they remain out of game.
Just you imagine, either Ronaldo or Jidane will contest each other when there , ediot person like you, is being umpire? In the same version, paries, that have been striveing for democracy, can not participate by the order of unconstitutional move of KG and his puppets. You must not forget here that, KG who is trying to teach us rule of land, must also follow the same. Could you name article of constitutional which allows king to be chairman of council of ministers? I am ready for debate, please come.

The feudals, whose leader is king, are trying their best to cage-in whole country for their own interest. This is the question of hour to each and every Nepali, what you are going to do to set up peaceful and democratic Nepal.

duke Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 6:31 pm
Only few 10 students are showing the flag doesnot represent people of Nepal. Why don’t we try to identify the peaceful solution to make all three to agree in some one point so that existance of all and representation of all should be there and no more mistakes in the coming democracy after that. If someone try to wipeout somebody definately they try to defend themselves. Even if king try to wipe out all parties and maoist they defend for their rights, and viceversa. It is very sad to know that our media like kantipur is more focusing on bringing more disturbances. Look at the news. all the anti speech of the Giri is published in kantipur, whereas The Himalaya trying to bring all of them in one point publishing that Govt. can consider postponing civic polls. We are surprised to know why media like kantipur try to bring more tussle, disturbances and further civil war.

krishna Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 6:54 pm
“If someone try to wipeout somebody definately they try to defend themselves.”

That means you should surrender to evil because it might hurt you while defending itself?

duke Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 7:26 pm
Krishnaji,

Whom do you called evil that is the question of today. Neithier parties leaders are god nor maoist are god and definately king also not god for us. You might think one is evil and others are god but we think all are evil and equally responsible to damage the country. First came maobadi, then party leaders and after that king. Be wise….

Chature Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 7:54 pm
duke jee,

Are you trying to potrait king and parliamentary-paries and maoist are same and equally responsible? Please, not to bother your good brain to write anti-thesis of civilization.

You please try to understand the driving force for social change of Nepal. Do you think feudal-gang who has been looting Nepal since history can be best political driver of Nepal for present era? You please try to be wise. These Shas, to whom Rana regime put under cage, had liberated by the blood of people in 2007. Go the political history between 1997-2007 BS. And now they (Shas) has just fulfilled the vacant post of Ranas, nothing more than that…. And you are blemming equally for blood givers and blood takers..
Please tell me where has gone all promises of Tribhuvan. What Mahendra has done for peoples liberty and freedom? Please tell us where to compromise with these feudals? People made aggrement in 2047 BS, through constitution, but now where has gone that aggrement?

Gentle person, please not to priscribe sweet-coate poison agai and again.

proud2bnepali Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 8:24 pm
hey “cry babies”

Well i call the ones who try to defend that useless person who tries to defend his master……(mathematically the former two are slaves and what a fun here to see……a want to be slave trying to save another one) …..i got nothing to say abt that mad persom barking like a dog..who says king is like god and u can’t question what he does cause we are punny humans….well for him that’s the only truth he holds.

But i wonder why these other so called educated but seemingly fool people speak to defend that creautre……i agree with u dudes that the political parties aren’t any better but i will bet my life that it is better to give this country in the hands of gagan thapa,yogesh bhattrai, kundan cafle then that paras…..if u really love this country……..but well by the ‘cry baby’ type of opinion i feel u ppl just see everytime glass half empty and neither u know about the struggle throughtout the world…….u just want things to be good…..

No matter what happens to the whoever…..or how……just the country should be peacefull…..the rich should be richer the poor should goto hell……and u hate change…….cause if the king rules there won’t be any change then for a long time……so….tapai praja haru lai euta kura matra bhanu sakchhu……..please at least be a little bit logical……..say things which is little bit true or at least close to truth……..don’t just cry like a baby to be right in what u are…….and we all know that usually babies cry for everything……right or wrong is out of the question for them….

pacifier Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 9:37 pm
i think there is a lot of delusion, illusion and anxiety…..words are poured out in abundance to get rid of the burden inside…..speaking against anyone is not going to help. I think serious thinking and action would be better. How to make a win-win situation for all is important. Peace, democracy and economic development …..how to safeguard these ???….and how to get out of this present deadlock ??

Programmer Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 10:38 pm
Hey Kids, Using force and demons are our Nepalese culture and tradition, It has been generated, so why you should surprise then ?

Limbu Says:

December 29th, 2005 at 10:53 pm
Violence may not be a nepali culture, but it’s definitely a royal culture. KG will sacrifice animals (maybe goats) in the Pathivara temple in Taplejung soon. He sacrificed 12 people in the Kali temple in Nagarkot a few days ago.

Chature Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 12:08 am
Good Programmer good,
May be you will get minister soon.
Please make arrangement that KG will have chance to read your comment.
Best wishess…

realTouch Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 6:15 am
Asha, Duke

There are two clear-cut lines – supremecy of the people or supremecy of the king in the state. Political party leaders, bad or good, are for supremecy of people and Dr.Giri is for that of king. Dr.Giri wants Panchayat or even worse a royal autocracy like Machaivelli did preach(He was sixteenth century Italian Monarchist philosopher, you should know as you are keen to monarchy). There is no sense trying to be a pseudo-democrat and scolding and chiding political parties and their leaders. Even in the worst case, party leaders are for the people’s right as this is the only source of their power.

If peace was the only requirement for the people to live, slaves would have never revolted against their masters. As you know feudalism or monarchy is not far from slavery, educated and enlighted people like you should not preach slavery.

duke Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 12:55 pm
realtouchji,

I know this website is designed for the democracy. But sometimes I confused it is designed for what kind of democracy, is that for the people or for the bad leaders and killings. What people’s supermacy you are talking about? If people had supermacy during 14 years they would have thrown the bad leaders and maoist of their cruel act. You might like the killings of maoist and go against the killings of army but one thing remember people don’t like the killings from either side. Who started the killings, army or maoist????the killings was started in the democratic government by using polic force. How come people supermacy during that time although they were being killed by maoist and democratic government. Don’t defend it, it will have more impact in the future…you might like to be chamcha of sujata in democracy but we don’t…democracy means democracy where everyone has the right to raise the questions and right to live in competition but it doesnot mean there will be competition in autocracy…something that might be bitter for you or something might be bitter for us..neither you are right about the past democratic government act and maoist act nor we are right to say that we don’t like democracy….

duke Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 1:01 pm
And one thing to be sure we don’t like to see autocracy but also we don’t like survive in fake democracy where peoples voice are being ignored by the leaders and their chamchas.

Chature Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 1:24 pm
duke jee,

Could you throw more light on your model of democracy? It could be interesting to know how way you are different than KG’s model of democracy.

Please dont leave forum and come with your ideas.

Top of the World Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 1:38 pm
Dr. Tulsi Giri speaks what he sees. He is a good politician than any other leaders. He makes sense when he speaks. LAST 14years Nepal was run by the Ambasadors. Girija and makune is not a real leaders of Nepal. I am glad that after Feb 1 Nepal is runing by Nepalese.

krishna Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 2:00 pm
Top of the world..

Are u sure tulsi giri is still a nepali?

sardar Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 2:02 pm
Realtouch, of course democracy is of the supermacy of the people not the 7 agitating parties. The 7 parties don’t represent the sovereign people of Nepal. If they think they do, why don’t they get the fresh mandate of the sovereign people ? Why run away from the people? Gather a handful of gangsters and then throw bricks at the street? They have been agitating for the last 4 years. Where have they reached? What have the Nepalese people got out of this agitation, useless and worthless as it is.
It seems you are the real slave of the Sujata and company that looted the RNAC into near bankruptsy. Stop living like a slave be a master. Contest the elections, don’t be afraid of going to the people. The people afterall are supreme.

Chature Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 2:58 pm
Sardar jee,

Great , great saying.
Why dont you gather more people then 7 parties and show their support towards you. Could you kindly show how way people are soverign in this present autocratic regime? To whom these feudals represent?

People’s soverignity has only enshrined in the 2047 constitution, and do you know how it happend and who were actors for that. Everything does not come just by somebody’s wish. Please try to respect the people who have secrificed they life for people and country. Otherwise there will be no body to respect you and your degnity.

If political problem surface then best way out would be to ask people what you want for. For this reason, if 7 parties are asking not to take part in election. I dont think there should be any problem with you.

If you feel that KG and his puppets are best political driver of this country, it is up to you. But we can not support if some one apper in front of TV and say I am Prime-minister of Nepal. This is the point of dissatisfaction..

duke Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 6:28 pm
Chatureji,

We are not against the democracy but we are for peoples supermacy. You might defend your failure leaders and killer maoist but we don’t even defend the king. We ignore and go against the king’s autocracy if that continues for long. That is the difference between you and us. Who is more liberal you can differentiate with this view.

In our model of democracy people should have power to choose the prime minister where prime minister role should be more stronger. The King should stay as ceremonial type after the establishment of peace. The handling of the security force should be executed by prime minsiter. 3/4th majority have right to change the prime minister but prime minster should have option for election only after 2 years or something like that. There should be no entry for THUG leaders (corrupted and punished by the court). There should be no politics in bureaucrats, semi-government bodies, security force and evn in NBA. There should be some control in the media toward supporting terrorism and go against security force. In party itself there should democracy to choose president and vice-president. Parties should not be ruled by communial. The government should make atleast responsible to people in their day to day livings, education and health and job opportunities. The prime minister and each party should annonce what they can give in their tenure to the people without fake assurance like before. They should be make more responsible and in selecting the party leaders should be fair and unbias itself…..We are not talking about 100% but atleast 50% of the above should be fulfilled.

One should remeber that democracy is that model which is for the people’s supermacy otherwise there is no difference between democracy and autocracy. We are not talking about the democracy of India where one is world’s to rich and another is world’s poorest eating the food of drainage. lets carry on discussion….

krishna Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 6:45 pm
We are not talking about the democracy of India where one is world’s to rich and another is world’s poorest eating the food of drainage.

That means you want maoists to rule… pure communist ideology.. good.

programmer Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 6:55 pm
Again, hey kids, Look at the picture, telling us to be encourage to involve there or to run away along the King’s way ( maharaj ganj). you guys still want remain this culture or be silence ?? Thukka murkhaho

no democracy i need ganatantra Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 7:29 pm
some bhats speak that [icd] KG is god.
i feel pity on those poor dhanustankare bhardar.
we need the rule of people not the rule of that KG who [icd] his brother to get the throne.
he is the one who get the 200 times the salary of Bush.
he is the one who invest Rs.30 crore for [icd] and celebrating [icd].

and the funny is this he talk about anti-corruption
the transparency international has already published the report that after feb 1 the corruption has got higher nepal ppositioned was downed from 90th to 127th.
there is no freedom to talk our opinion.
can u shout antislogan against the head of council of ministers although the constitution has provided that right to the people.
is there any post of upadhyaksha in constitution?

Chature Says:

December 30th, 2005 at 8:22 pm
dujke jee,

If you want to say so tnen please tell me,

While you are doing what you have said just before, If some body appear in TV, with good cap in his leaning neck, and say I am the prime-minister from now on. What you are going to do?

You did not touch this point in your opinion.

How you are going to establish ceremonial trype of monarchism? through begging or through struggle?

Are you thinking that these feudals will give you democracy while you pray for them?

Please go on and get democracy by praying , Good luck…

Truth Says:

January 4th, 2006 at 1:09 pm
Chatureji,

You want to bring democracy with maoist style or Gandhi style, that is the difference. Regarding king, he should be constitutional or more ceremonial in future, we believe there is no alternate for him and he must be aware of it. We just worried why parties are neglecting the election with the fear of the maoist? If they really not fearing with the maoist then they should demand fool authority coalition government to participate election. If you look at the Iraq, there is more dangerous terrorist then Nepal but election has been occurred, why not in Nepal. Regarding maoist demand, there are many good things also why not assured them to accept genuine demand.

I don’t see any logic about abolishing the king, that is just strategy to bring another dangerous autocracy. One thing to be sure neither maoist have nor king has good hold in the people. Why parties are worrying with them? To be very frank the strategy adopted and the demand of the maoist are not 100% good. Their stand for 100% of their demand means they are not flexible and they don’t want peace. They should talk with the government and negotiate with them not others. Because others have nothing to give them. That is just making fool to the parties.